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Posted to general@incubator.apache.org by "John D. Ament" <jo...@apache.org> on 2016/03/28 02:44:29 UTC

54 podlings - too many?

All,

We're currently at 54 podlings in the incubator.  I feel like that's a
lot.  Anyone else have any concerns with so many podlings?

John

Re: 54 podlings - too many?

Posted by Roman Shaposhnik <ro...@shaposhnik.org>.
On Sun, Mar 27, 2016 at 5:44 PM, John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org> wrote:
> All,
>
> We're currently at 54 podlings in the incubator.  I feel like that's a
> lot.  Anyone else have any concerns with so many podlings?

I really encourage everybody to read the feedback on the last year's attempt
at changing the Incubator mechanics thread:  https://s.apache.org/Bxc0

I believe the subject has been beaten to death and then some. I really don't
think there's been any material change between Oct 2015 and now.

Thanks,
Roman.

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Re: 54 podlings - too many?

Posted by Marvin Humphrey <ma...@rectangular.com>.
On Sun, Mar 27, 2016 at 6:42 PM, Justin Mclean <ju...@me.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
>> We're currently at 54 podlings in the incubator.
>
> A more use stat would perhaps to see:
> a) How long they have been in incubation?
> b) How many releases have they made?
>
> May be easier to then target one that should graduate or perhaps retire?

The "Clutch Report" provides this sort of analysis.

  http://incubator.apache.org/clutch.html

Column B is "number of days in incubation", helpfully color coded.

Column S is "has release".

Plus lots of other data.

Marvin Humphrey

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Re: 54 podlings - too many?

Posted by Michael Fitzner <fi...@gmail.com>.

> Am 28.03.2016 um 07:59 schrieb Jean-Baptiste
Add
> Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I agree with Justin.
> 
> Maybe, we should do kind of audit:
> - are the podlings actually active (commits, messages on the mailing list, releases, etc) ?
> - for how long are they in the incubator ?
> - how far are they from graduation ?
> 
> We can spread this work with "buckets" assigned to volunteer Incubator PMC members. I would be happy to help there.
> 
> Regards
> JB
> 
>> On 03/28/2016 03:42 AM, Justin Mclean wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>>> We're currently at 54 podlings in the incubator.
>> 
>> A more use stat would perhaps to see:
>> a) How long they have been in incubation?
>> b) How many releases have they made?
>> 
>> May be easier to then target one that should graduate or perhaps retire?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Justin
>> 
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Re: 54 podlings - too many?

Posted by "Mattmann, Chris A (3980)" <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>.
There was also some discussion of maybe bringing the code into Apache
Tika - we would be happy to have a discussion on dev@tika if it made
sense RE: ODF Toolkit.

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Reply-To: "general@incubator.apache.org" <ge...@incubator.apache.org>
Date: Monday, March 28, 2016 at 5:47 AM
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Subject: Re: 54 podlings - too many?

>On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 8:37 AM, Harbs <ha...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> What about recommending that it be adopted by OpenOffice?
>>
>> IIUC, ODF Toolkit predates OpenOffice becoming an Apache Project. It
>>seems (to an outsider like me) like the OpenOffice community would be a
>>good home for a related toolkit.
>
>It was proposed as a separate project from the beginning by a member
>of the Open Office community.
>
>- Sam Ruby
>
>> Harbs
>>
>> On Mar 28, 2016, at 2:33 PM, Sam Ruby <ru...@intertwingly.net> wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 6:44 AM, John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org>
>>>wrote:
>>>> Both great ideas.  Thanksfully, Whimsy helps a bit on the age part
>>>>
>>>> https://whimsy.apache.org/incubator/podlings/by-age
>>>>
>>>> It also gives a clean dashboard to display who the mentors are, etc.
>>>>Is it
>>>> possible we can have the mentors of each project give this feedback
>>>>in an
>>>> objective manner?
>>>
>>> Hmmm, that pie chart looks wonky.
>>>
>>> Second on the list is ODF Toolkit, with my name.  Relevant links:
>>>
>>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-odf-commits/
>>> https://whimsy.apache.org/board/minutes/ODF_Toolkit.html
>>>
>>> Short summary: development continues in a slow, sometimes bursty, but
>>> steady manner; hasn't had a release in nearly two years; hasn't added
>>> any committers or PMC members in over three years; has an
>>> understanding of what they need to do to graduate.
>>>
>>> Periodically I peek in expecting to make a recommendation one way or
>>> another, but not seeing anything worth adding.  I honestly don't know
>>> what to recommend.
>>>
>>> - Sam Ruby
>>>
>>>> John
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 2:00 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I agree with Justin.
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe, we should do kind of audit:
>>>>> - are the podlings actually active (commits, messages on the mailing
>>>>> list, releases, etc) ?
>>>>> - for how long are they in the incubator ?
>>>>> - how far are they from graduation ?
>>>>>
>>>>> We can spread this work with "buckets" assigned to volunteer
>>>>>Incubator
>>>>> PMC members. I would be happy to help there.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> JB
>>>>>
>>>>> On 03/28/2016 03:42 AM, Justin Mclean wrote:
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We're currently at 54 podlings in the incubator.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A more use stat would perhaps to see:
>>>>>> a) How long they have been in incubation?
>>>>>> b) How many releases have they made?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> May be easier to then target one that should graduate or perhaps
>>>>>>retire?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Justin
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 
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>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>>>>> jbonofre@apache.org
>>>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>>>>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
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Re: 54 podlings - too many?

Posted by Sam Ruby <ru...@intertwingly.net>.
On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 8:37 AM, Harbs <ha...@gmail.com> wrote:
> What about recommending that it be adopted by OpenOffice?
>
> IIUC, ODF Toolkit predates OpenOffice becoming an Apache Project. It seems (to an outsider like me) like the OpenOffice community would be a good home for a related toolkit.

It was proposed as a separate project from the beginning by a member
of the Open Office community.

- Sam Ruby

> Harbs
>
> On Mar 28, 2016, at 2:33 PM, Sam Ruby <ru...@intertwingly.net> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 6:44 AM, John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org> wrote:
>>> Both great ideas.  Thanksfully, Whimsy helps a bit on the age part
>>>
>>> https://whimsy.apache.org/incubator/podlings/by-age
>>>
>>> It also gives a clean dashboard to display who the mentors are, etc.  Is it
>>> possible we can have the mentors of each project give this feedback in an
>>> objective manner?
>>
>> Hmmm, that pie chart looks wonky.
>>
>> Second on the list is ODF Toolkit, with my name.  Relevant links:
>>
>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-odf-commits/
>> https://whimsy.apache.org/board/minutes/ODF_Toolkit.html
>>
>> Short summary: development continues in a slow, sometimes bursty, but
>> steady manner; hasn't had a release in nearly two years; hasn't added
>> any committers or PMC members in over three years; has an
>> understanding of what they need to do to graduate.
>>
>> Periodically I peek in expecting to make a recommendation one way or
>> another, but not seeing anything worth adding.  I honestly don't know
>> what to recommend.
>>
>> - Sam Ruby
>>
>>> John
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 2:00 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I agree with Justin.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe, we should do kind of audit:
>>>> - are the podlings actually active (commits, messages on the mailing
>>>> list, releases, etc) ?
>>>> - for how long are they in the incubator ?
>>>> - how far are they from graduation ?
>>>>
>>>> We can spread this work with "buckets" assigned to volunteer Incubator
>>>> PMC members. I would be happy to help there.
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> JB
>>>>
>>>> On 03/28/2016 03:42 AM, Justin Mclean wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>>> We're currently at 54 podlings in the incubator.
>>>>>
>>>>> A more use stat would perhaps to see:
>>>>> a) How long they have been in incubation?
>>>>> b) How many releases have they made?
>>>>>
>>>>> May be easier to then target one that should graduate or perhaps retire?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Justin
>>>>>
>>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>>>> jbonofre@apache.org
>>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>>>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>>>>
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Re: 54 podlings - too many?

Posted by Harbs <ha...@gmail.com>.
What about recommending that it be adopted by OpenOffice?

IIUC, ODF Toolkit predates OpenOffice becoming an Apache Project. It seems (to an outsider like me) like the OpenOffice community would be a good home for a related toolkit.

Harbs

On Mar 28, 2016, at 2:33 PM, Sam Ruby <ru...@intertwingly.net> wrote:

> On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 6:44 AM, John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org> wrote:
>> Both great ideas.  Thanksfully, Whimsy helps a bit on the age part
>> 
>> https://whimsy.apache.org/incubator/podlings/by-age
>> 
>> It also gives a clean dashboard to display who the mentors are, etc.  Is it
>> possible we can have the mentors of each project give this feedback in an
>> objective manner?
> 
> Hmmm, that pie chart looks wonky.
> 
> Second on the list is ODF Toolkit, with my name.  Relevant links:
> 
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-odf-commits/
> https://whimsy.apache.org/board/minutes/ODF_Toolkit.html
> 
> Short summary: development continues in a slow, sometimes bursty, but
> steady manner; hasn't had a release in nearly two years; hasn't added
> any committers or PMC members in over three years; has an
> understanding of what they need to do to graduate.
> 
> Periodically I peek in expecting to make a recommendation one way or
> another, but not seeing anything worth adding.  I honestly don't know
> what to recommend.
> 
> - Sam Ruby
> 
>> John
>> 
>> On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 2:00 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I agree with Justin.
>>> 
>>> Maybe, we should do kind of audit:
>>> - are the podlings actually active (commits, messages on the mailing
>>> list, releases, etc) ?
>>> - for how long are they in the incubator ?
>>> - how far are they from graduation ?
>>> 
>>> We can spread this work with "buckets" assigned to volunteer Incubator
>>> PMC members. I would be happy to help there.
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> JB
>>> 
>>> On 03/28/2016 03:42 AM, Justin Mclean wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>>> We're currently at 54 podlings in the incubator.
>>>> 
>>>> A more use stat would perhaps to see:
>>>> a) How long they have been in incubation?
>>>> b) How many releases have they made?
>>>> 
>>>> May be easier to then target one that should graduate or perhaps retire?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Justin
>>>> 
>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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>>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>>> jbonofre@apache.org
>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>>> 
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Re: 54 podlings - too many?

Posted by Sam Ruby <ru...@intertwingly.net>.
On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 7:36 AM, John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org> wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 7:33 AM Sam Ruby <ru...@intertwingly.net> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 6:44 AM, John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>> > Both great ideas.  Thanksfully, Whimsy helps a bit on the age part
>> >
>> > https://whimsy.apache.org/incubator/podlings/by-age
>> >
>> > It also gives a clean dashboard to display who the mentors are, etc.  Is
>> it
>> > possible we can have the mentors of each project give this feedback in an
>> > objective manner?
>>
>> Hmmm, that pie chart looks wonky.
>
> What does the pie chart even mean?

Try hovering your cursor over it :-)

- Sam Ruby

>> Second on the list is ODF Toolkit, with my name.  Relevant links:
>>
>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-odf-commits/
>> https://whimsy.apache.org/board/minutes/ODF_Toolkit.html
>>
>> Short summary: development continues in a slow, sometimes bursty, but
>> steady manner; hasn't had a release in nearly two years; hasn't added
>> any committers or PMC members in over three years; has an
>> understanding of what they need to do to graduate.
>>
>> Periodically I peek in expecting to make a recommendation one way or
>> another, but not seeing anything worth adding.  I honestly don't know
>> what to recommend.
>>
>> - Sam Ruby
>>
>> > John
>> >
>> > On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 2:00 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> I agree with Justin.
>> >>
>> >> Maybe, we should do kind of audit:
>> >> - are the podlings actually active (commits, messages on the mailing
>> >> list, releases, etc) ?
>> >> - for how long are they in the incubator ?
>> >> - how far are they from graduation ?
>> >>
>> >> We can spread this work with "buckets" assigned to volunteer Incubator
>> >> PMC members. I would be happy to help there.
>> >>
>> >> Regards
>> >> JB
>> >>
>> >> On 03/28/2016 03:42 AM, Justin Mclean wrote:
>> >> > Hi,
>> >> >
>> >> >> We're currently at 54 podlings in the incubator.
>> >> >
>> >> > A more use stat would perhaps to see:
>> >> > a) How long they have been in incubation?
>> >> > b) How many releases have they made?
>> >> >
>> >> > May be easier to then target one that should graduate or perhaps
>> retire?
>> >> >
>> >> > Thanks,
>> >> > Justin
>> >> >
>> >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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>> >> > For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>> >> jbonofre@apache.org
>> >> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>> >> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>> >>
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>> >>
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Re: 54 podlings - too many?

Posted by "John D. Ament" <jo...@apache.org>.
On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 7:33 AM Sam Ruby <ru...@intertwingly.net> wrote:

> On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 6:44 AM, John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > Both great ideas.  Thanksfully, Whimsy helps a bit on the age part
> >
> > https://whimsy.apache.org/incubator/podlings/by-age
> >
> > It also gives a clean dashboard to display who the mentors are, etc.  Is
> it
> > possible we can have the mentors of each project give this feedback in an
> > objective manner?
>
> Hmmm, that pie chart looks wonky.
>

What does the pie chart even mean?


>
> Second on the list is ODF Toolkit, with my name.  Relevant links:
>
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-odf-commits/
> https://whimsy.apache.org/board/minutes/ODF_Toolkit.html
>
> Short summary: development continues in a slow, sometimes bursty, but
> steady manner; hasn't had a release in nearly two years; hasn't added
> any committers or PMC members in over three years; has an
> understanding of what they need to do to graduate.
>
> Periodically I peek in expecting to make a recommendation one way or
> another, but not seeing anything worth adding.  I honestly don't know
> what to recommend.
>
> - Sam Ruby
>
> > John
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 2:00 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I agree with Justin.
> >>
> >> Maybe, we should do kind of audit:
> >> - are the podlings actually active (commits, messages on the mailing
> >> list, releases, etc) ?
> >> - for how long are they in the incubator ?
> >> - how far are they from graduation ?
> >>
> >> We can spread this work with "buckets" assigned to volunteer Incubator
> >> PMC members. I would be happy to help there.
> >>
> >> Regards
> >> JB
> >>
> >> On 03/28/2016 03:42 AM, Justin Mclean wrote:
> >> > Hi,
> >> >
> >> >> We're currently at 54 podlings in the incubator.
> >> >
> >> > A more use stat would perhaps to see:
> >> > a) How long they have been in incubation?
> >> > b) How many releases have they made?
> >> >
> >> > May be easier to then target one that should graduate or perhaps
> retire?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks,
> >> > Justin
> >> >
> >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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> >> > For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org
> >> >
> >>
> >> --
> >> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
> >> jbonofre@apache.org
> >> http://blog.nanthrax.net
> >> Talend - http://www.talend.com
> >>
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> >>
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Re: 54 podlings - too many?

Posted by Sam Ruby <ru...@intertwingly.net>.
On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 6:44 AM, John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org> wrote:
> Both great ideas.  Thanksfully, Whimsy helps a bit on the age part
>
> https://whimsy.apache.org/incubator/podlings/by-age
>
> It also gives a clean dashboard to display who the mentors are, etc.  Is it
> possible we can have the mentors of each project give this feedback in an
> objective manner?

Hmmm, that pie chart looks wonky.

Second on the list is ODF Toolkit, with my name.  Relevant links:

http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-odf-commits/
https://whimsy.apache.org/board/minutes/ODF_Toolkit.html

Short summary: development continues in a slow, sometimes bursty, but
steady manner; hasn't had a release in nearly two years; hasn't added
any committers or PMC members in over three years; has an
understanding of what they need to do to graduate.

Periodically I peek in expecting to make a recommendation one way or
another, but not seeing anything worth adding.  I honestly don't know
what to recommend.

- Sam Ruby

> John
>
> On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 2:00 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I agree with Justin.
>>
>> Maybe, we should do kind of audit:
>> - are the podlings actually active (commits, messages on the mailing
>> list, releases, etc) ?
>> - for how long are they in the incubator ?
>> - how far are they from graduation ?
>>
>> We can spread this work with "buckets" assigned to volunteer Incubator
>> PMC members. I would be happy to help there.
>>
>> Regards
>> JB
>>
>> On 03/28/2016 03:42 AM, Justin Mclean wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> >> We're currently at 54 podlings in the incubator.
>> >
>> > A more use stat would perhaps to see:
>> > a) How long they have been in incubation?
>> > b) How many releases have they made?
>> >
>> > May be easier to then target one that should graduate or perhaps retire?
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Justin
>> >
>> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org
>> > For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.org
>> >
>>
>> --
>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>> jbonofre@apache.org
>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>>
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Re: 54 podlings - too many?

Posted by "John D. Ament" <jo...@apache.org>.
Both great ideas.  Thanksfully, Whimsy helps a bit on the age part

https://whimsy.apache.org/incubator/podlings/by-age

It also gives a clean dashboard to display who the mentors are, etc.  Is it
possible we can have the mentors of each project give this feedback in an
objective manner?

John

On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 2:00 AM Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I agree with Justin.
>
> Maybe, we should do kind of audit:
> - are the podlings actually active (commits, messages on the mailing
> list, releases, etc) ?
> - for how long are they in the incubator ?
> - how far are they from graduation ?
>
> We can spread this work with "buckets" assigned to volunteer Incubator
> PMC members. I would be happy to help there.
>
> Regards
> JB
>
> On 03/28/2016 03:42 AM, Justin Mclean wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> >> We're currently at 54 podlings in the incubator.
> >
> > A more use stat would perhaps to see:
> > a) How long they have been in incubation?
> > b) How many releases have they made?
> >
> > May be easier to then target one that should graduate or perhaps retire?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Justin
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Re: 54 podlings - too many?

Posted by Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>.
Hi,

I agree with Justin.

Maybe, we should do kind of audit:
- are the podlings actually active (commits, messages on the mailing 
list, releases, etc) ?
- for how long are they in the incubator ?
- how far are they from graduation ?

We can spread this work with "buckets" assigned to volunteer Incubator 
PMC members. I would be happy to help there.

Regards
JB

On 03/28/2016 03:42 AM, Justin Mclean wrote:
> Hi,
>
>> We're currently at 54 podlings in the incubator.
>
> A more use stat would perhaps to see:
> a) How long they have been in incubation?
> b) How many releases have they made?
>
> May be easier to then target one that should graduate or perhaps retire?
>
> Thanks,
> Justin
>
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Re: 54 podlings - too many?

Posted by Justin Mclean <ju...@me.com>.
Hi,

> We're currently at 54 podlings in the incubator. 

A more use stat would perhaps to see:
a) How long they have been in incubation?
b) How many releases have they made?

May be easier to then target one that should graduate or perhaps retire?

Thanks,
Justin

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Re: 54 podlings - too many?

Posted by "P. Taylor Goetz" <pt...@gmail.com>.
I think it's a lot, but shouldn't be a worry as long as mentors are keeping up, right? And that the incubator report manager isn't overburdened. ;)

There's also the topic of shepherds. I seem to recall a sentiment to the effect that incubator shepherds weren't adding value (from whom, I forget exactly, but can look it up). That caused me to pull back a bit from shepherd activity (I still look, but comment less).

-Taylor

> On Mar 27, 2016, at 8:44 PM, John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org> wrote:
> 
> All,
> 
> We're currently at 54 podlings in the incubator.  I feel like that's a
> lot.  Anyone else have any concerns with so many podlings?
> 
> John

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