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Posted to cactus-dev@jakarta.apache.org by Vincent Massol <vm...@pivolis.com> on 2006/01/06 18:27:05 UTC

Legal issue with jboss-j2ee jar

Hi devs,

Cactus is under the ASL and as such hit cannot legally redistribute a LGPL
jar. We're bundling the jboss-j2ee jar in our distribution. The Jakarta PMC
is asking us to correct ASAP.

I've created an issue here: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CACTUS-234

Can someone look into this?

Thanks
-Vincent


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Re: Legal issue with jboss-j2ee jar

Posted by Felipe Leme <ma...@felipeal.net>.
Henri Yandell wrote:
> 
> Also need to get them out of the old builds etc :) But that's just zip
> -d if it's not actually needed.

Actually, the only reason the jar is there is to run the EJB example - 
once you unzip cactus-13-1.7.x.zip, you go to the samples/ejb and run 
'ant'. If we remove the jar, we would break the sample, so I would 
prefer to simply remove the 'infected' zips from the site than remove 
the jars from the zips.

-- Felipe

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Re: Legal issue with jboss-j2ee jar

Posted by Henri Yandell <fl...@gmail.com>.
On 1/6/06, Felipe Leme <ma...@felipeal.net> wrote:
> Hi Vincent,
>
> I don't see an issue here - we just need the jars to compile Cactus, we
> don't need to redistribute them, right? If so, I think we're fine with
> JBoss jars (we just need to change our build to not redistribute them)...

I think that would be fine. I'll check with Cliff tomorrow if I can
keep it in the front of my mind.

Also need to get them out of the old builds etc :) But that's just zip
-d if it's not actually needed.

Hen

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Re: Legal issue with jboss-j2ee jar

Posted by Felipe Leme <ma...@felipeal.net>.
Hi Vincent,

I don't see an issue here - we just need the jars to compile Cactus, we 
don't need to redistribute them, right? If so, I think we're fine with 
JBoss jars (we just need to change our build to not redistribute them)...

Regarding the Geronime option, that would be another interesting 
alternative, specially if we decide to drop J2EE 1.2 support.

-- Felipe



Vincent Massol wrote:

> Not really... :-) There are specs (i.e. paper) provided by Sun but different
> organizations can implement them. Apache is one and they do for example for
> the Servlet/JSP specs but also for the J2EE ones (in Geronimo). The apache
> code is licensed under the ASL.
> 
> 
>>The required j2ee-related jar files are available from the maven repo, or
>>from sun.com.
> 
> 
> Not really. The Sun J2EE jar is NOT redistributable (this means it has to be
> downloaded by each person from the sun web site and that person has to view
> and approve the license). This is because the Sun license requires this.
> 
> The JBoss J2EE jar is indeed redistributable (that's why it's on ibiblio)
> but under a LGPL license which means it cannot be redistributed by an ASL
> project.

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RE: Legal issue with jboss-j2ee jar

Posted by Vincent Massol <vm...@pivolis.com>.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Zhong ZHENG [mailto:heavyzheng@gmail.com]
> Sent: vendredi 6 janvier 2006 19:07
> To: Cactus Developers List
> Subject: Re: Legal issue with jboss-j2ee jar
> 
> Hi,
> 
> The jboss-j2ee jar contains only classes under the javax package, which
> seem
> to have nothing to do with jboss.

Not really... :-) There are specs (i.e. paper) provided by Sun but different
organizations can implement them. Apache is one and they do for example for
the Servlet/JSP specs but also for the J2EE ones (in Geronimo). The apache
code is licensed under the ASL.

> The required j2ee-related jar files are available from the maven repo, or
> from sun.com.

Not really. The Sun J2EE jar is NOT redistributable (this means it has to be
downloaded by each person from the sun web site and that person has to view
and approve the license). This is because the Sun license requires this.

The JBoss J2EE jar is indeed redistributable (that's why it's on ibiblio)
but under a LGPL license which means it cannot be redistributed by an ASL
project.

Thanks
-Vincent

> On 1/6/06, Vincent Massol <vm...@pivolis.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi devs,
> >
> > Cactus is under the ASL and as such hit cannot legally redistribute a
> LGPL
> > jar. We're bundling the jboss-j2ee jar in our distribution. The Jakarta
> > PMC
> > is asking us to correct ASAP.
> >
> > I've created an issue here:
> > http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CACTUS-234
> >
> > Can someone look into this?
> >
> > Thanks
> > -Vincent
> >
> >
> --
> ZHENG Zhong
> - http://heavyz.blogspot.com/
> - http://people.apache.org/~zheng/


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Re: Legal issue with jboss-j2ee jar

Posted by Zhong ZHENG <he...@gmail.com>.
Hi,

The jboss-j2ee jar contains only classes under the javax package, which seem
to have nothing to do with jboss.
The required j2ee-related jar files are available from the maven repo, or
from sun.com.

Regards.

On 1/6/06, Vincent Massol <vm...@pivolis.com> wrote:
>
> Hi devs,
>
> Cactus is under the ASL and as such hit cannot legally redistribute a LGPL
> jar. We're bundling the jboss-j2ee jar in our distribution. The Jakarta
> PMC
> is asking us to correct ASAP.
>
> I've created an issue here:
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CACTUS-234
>
> Can someone look into this?
>
> Thanks
> -Vincent
>
>
--
ZHENG Zhong
- http://heavyz.blogspot.com/
- http://people.apache.org/~zheng/

Re: Legal issue with jboss-j2ee jar

Posted by Felipe Leme <ma...@felipeal.net>.
Vincent Massol wrote:

> I've created an issue here: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CACTUS-234

Hmm, I think there was an old Jira issue about building Cactus with 
Maven without Sun's dependencies, but I didn't find it. The closes issue 
I found was:


http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CACTUS-105

> Can someone look into this?

I will put it ony queue (no guarantee when it will popped though :-)


-- Felipe

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