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Posted to dev@tapestry.apache.org by "Howard M. Lewis Ship" <hl...@attbi.com> on 2003/03/12 05:10:49 UTC
Goodbye Workbench Chart page?
The current discussions on Incubator list indicate that not only is Tapestry
not allowed to have LGPL frameworks in CVS or in the distribution, but it
can't import a package from LGPL or use an LGPL API.
That's not a terrible deal; there are alternate places to get the J2EE APIs
needed to build Tapestry and the examples.
The pain currently is in the Workbench: it uses JFreeChart to produce the
pie chart. That's going to have to go.
I really like having this Chart page as part of the examples; does anyone
have spare cycles to come up with a quick-n-dirty replacement for
JFreeChart?
--
Howard M. Lewis Ship
Creator, Tapestry: Java Web Components
http://jakarta.apache.org/proposals/tapestry
Re: Goodbye Workbench Chart page?
Posted by Luis Neves <ln...@netcabo.pt>.
On Wednesday 12 March 2003 04:10, Howard M. Lewis Ship wrote:
> The pain currently is in the Workbench: it uses JFreeChart to produce the
> pie chart. That's going to have to go.
Please don't. It's a very important piece of the Workbench
> I really like having this Chart page as part of the examples; does anyone
> have spare cycles to come up with a quick-n-dirty replacement for
> JFreeChart?
JCharts has a BSD license:
http://jcharts.sourceforge.net/
Is that acceptable?
If so I will try to change the code to use JCharts during the following
weekend.
Best regards,
Luis Neves
Re: Goodbye Workbench Chart page?
Posted by "Andrew C. Oliver" <ac...@apache.org>.
Ahh but make sure you're not like doing anything illegal with what you
distribute there or Apache can be implicated. I'd be particularly
careful about GPL and SCSL/etc (sun licenses)
-Andy
Geoff Longman wrote:
>Here's a suggestion, (been following the jakarta general and incubator
>discussions).
>
>Perhaps it would be best to keep only the framework inside Apache and move
>everything else to
>the Component Repository project that has been lying dormant since its
>inception.
>
>One could link to the sf project on the Apache Tapestry page, and also in
>the docs.
>
>That way the demos and contrib library can stay as is and its left up to
>those who download them
>to resolve the license issues for themselves.
>
>An alternative would be to do the same thing by leaving these artifacts in
>the Tapestry sf project. But I believe that would
>cause confusion (is Tapestry on sf or Apache)?
>
>Just a thought.
>
>Geoff
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Howard M. Lewis Ship" <hl...@attbi.com>
>To: "Tapestry-Dev" <ta...@jakarta.apache.org>
>Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 11:10 PM
>Subject: Goodbye Workbench Chart page?
>
>
>
>
>>The current discussions on Incubator list indicate that not only is
>>
>>
>Tapestry
>
>
>>not allowed to have LGPL frameworks in CVS or in the distribution, but it
>>can't import a package from LGPL or use an LGPL API.
>>
>>That's not a terrible deal; there are alternate places to get the J2EE
>>
>>
>APIs
>
>
>>needed to build Tapestry and the examples.
>>
>>The pain currently is in the Workbench: it uses JFreeChart to produce the
>>pie chart. That's going to have to go.
>>
>>I really like having this Chart page as part of the examples; does anyone
>>have spare cycles to come up with a quick-n-dirty replacement for
>>JFreeChart?
>>
>>--
>>Howard M. Lewis Ship
>>Creator, Tapestry: Java Web Components
>>http://jakarta.apache.org/proposals/tapestry
>>
>>
>>
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RE: Goodbye Workbench Chart page?
Posted by "Howard M. Lewis Ship" <hl...@attbi.com>.
I still feel it is very import to have easy-to-run local demos (especially
since we don't really seem to have an up-to-date, live demo anywhere). I
mean, how hard are you going to work if you just receive a lump of code that
doesn't do anything?
--
Howard M. Lewis Ship
Creator, Tapestry: Java Web Components
http://jakarta.apache.org/proposals/tapestry
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Geoff Longman [mailto:glongman@intelligentworks.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 7:00 AM
> To: Tapestry development
> Subject: Re: Goodbye Workbench Chart page?
>
>
> Here's a suggestion, (been following the jakarta general and
> incubator discussions).
>
> Perhaps it would be best to keep only the framework inside
> Apache and move everything else to the Component Repository
> project that has been lying dormant since its inception.
>
> One could link to the sf project on the Apache Tapestry page,
> and also in the docs.
>
> That way the demos and contrib library can stay as is and its
> left up to those who download them to resolve the license
> issues for themselves.
>
> An alternative would be to do the same thing by leaving these
> artifacts in the Tapestry sf project. But I believe that
> would cause confusion (is Tapestry on sf or Apache)?
>
> Just a thought.
>
> Geoff
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Howard M. Lewis Ship" <hl...@attbi.com>
> To: "Tapestry-Dev" <ta...@jakarta.apache.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 11:10 PM
> Subject: Goodbye Workbench Chart page?
>
>
> > The current discussions on Incubator list indicate that not only is
> Tapestry
> > not allowed to have LGPL frameworks in CVS or in the
> distribution, but
> > it can't import a package from LGPL or use an LGPL API.
> >
> > That's not a terrible deal; there are alternate places to
> get the J2EE
> APIs
> > needed to build Tapestry and the examples.
> >
> > The pain currently is in the Workbench: it uses JFreeChart
> to produce
> > the pie chart. That's going to have to go.
> >
> > I really like having this Chart page as part of the examples; does
> > anyone have spare cycles to come up with a quick-n-dirty
> replacement
> > for JFreeChart?
> >
> > --
> > Howard M. Lewis Ship
> > Creator, Tapestry: Java Web Components
> > http://jakarta.apache.org/proposals/tapestry
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: Goodbye Workbench Chart page?
Posted by Geoff Longman <gl...@intelligentworks.com>.
Here's a suggestion, (been following the jakarta general and incubator
discussions).
Perhaps it would be best to keep only the framework inside Apache and move
everything else to
the Component Repository project that has been lying dormant since its
inception.
One could link to the sf project on the Apache Tapestry page, and also in
the docs.
That way the demos and contrib library can stay as is and its left up to
those who download them
to resolve the license issues for themselves.
An alternative would be to do the same thing by leaving these artifacts in
the Tapestry sf project. But I believe that would
cause confusion (is Tapestry on sf or Apache)?
Just a thought.
Geoff
----- Original Message -----
From: "Howard M. Lewis Ship" <hl...@attbi.com>
To: "Tapestry-Dev" <ta...@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 11:10 PM
Subject: Goodbye Workbench Chart page?
> The current discussions on Incubator list indicate that not only is
Tapestry
> not allowed to have LGPL frameworks in CVS or in the distribution, but it
> can't import a package from LGPL or use an LGPL API.
>
> That's not a terrible deal; there are alternate places to get the J2EE
APIs
> needed to build Tapestry and the examples.
>
> The pain currently is in the Workbench: it uses JFreeChart to produce the
> pie chart. That's going to have to go.
>
> I really like having this Chart page as part of the examples; does anyone
> have spare cycles to come up with a quick-n-dirty replacement for
> JFreeChart?
>
> --
> Howard M. Lewis Ship
> Creator, Tapestry: Java Web Components
> http://jakarta.apache.org/proposals/tapestry
>
>
>
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