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Posted to fop-users@xmlgraphics.apache.org by Paul Hunnisett <ph...@gmail.com> on 2008/07/09 15:09:50 UTC
Problems transforming to RTF
I've written an FO document that I need to convert into and RTF file. It
comes through the transform all messed up looking (sorry - best
description!). If I transform it into a PDF then it looks perfect, but the
RTF looks awful.
I've attached the original fo, the PDF and the RTF output so that you can
see what I'm aiming for and what I'm getting...
I'm assuming the problem is to do with fo features not supported in the RTF
transform. Is anyone aware of a way that I can tweak my fo to get the
desired results in a way that will work?
Cheers
Paul Hunnisett
Re: Problems transforming to RTF
Posted by Jeremias Maerki <de...@jeremias-maerki.ch>.
And what if someone wants to create an document in which he puts
snippets of RTF as part of the documentation? How does he escape that?
Yes, it's just text, but it's document text not content (or commands) that
is put into RTF 1:1.
On 23.07.2008 18:09:18 Paul Hunnisett wrote:
> Surely it's just text though? The fact that an RTF reader will interpret is
> as having some other meaning shouldn't need to affect the FOP process...
>
> On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 4:15 PM, Jeremias Maerki <de...@jeremias-maerki.ch>
> wrote:
>
> > Sorry, but that's not how it works. You can't just put RTF markup in
> > your FO and expect that to properly show up in RTF files. FOP has to
> > support all sorts of different output formats. And hacking in something
> > like that is certainly not the way to go. This has to do be done by
> > improving the RTF handler in FOP.
> >
> > On 23.07.2008 16:48:27 Paul Hunnisett wrote:
> > > What I mean by 'escaping' is that if I put the following in my fo:
> > >
> > > <fo:block ...>
> > >
> > > { \line \line \line \line \line \line \line \line \line \line \line \line
> > > \line }
> > > </fo:block>
> > > Which is just some RTF markup, is output as:
> > >
> > > \{ \\ line \\ line \\ line \\ line \\ line \\ line \\ line \\ line \\
> > line
> > > \\ line \\ line \\ line \\ line \}
> > >
> > > Where the RTF markup is being escaped and I am seeing the \line s as text
> > in
> > > my output...
> > > On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 3:22 PM, Jeremias Maerki <dev@jeremias-maerki.ch
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > What do you mean by "escaping" it? If you open a bugzilla issue and
> > > > attach your current patch I'm happy to review it for you and to provide
> > > > tips.
> > > >
> > > > On 23.07.2008 16:16:24 Paul Hunnisett wrote:
> > > > > OK - I'm nearly there. The RTF almost looks exactly how I want it
> > to.
> > > > The
> > > > > only thing now is a table cell which need to be certain height is
> > shrunk
> > > > to
> > > > > one line.
> > > > >
> > > > > I've discovered which RTF markup I could use to achieve the desired
> > > > result -
> > > > > but the FOP process is escaping it all...
> > > > >
> > > > > Is there any way of switching that particular feature off?
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 2:25 PM, Jeremias Maerki
> > <dev@jeremias-maerki.ch
> > > > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Looking at the source code it appears as if only the "height" on
> > > > > > fo:table-row is inspected. The right property would actually be
> > > > > > "block-progression-dimension" since "height" is mapped to
> > > > > > "block-progression-dimension", but that's the way it looks right
> > now.
> > > > > > I haven't run any tests, but you might want to try specifying the
> > > > height
> > > > > > on the parent table-row of a cell. If that doesn't help you'll need
> > to
> > > > > > dive into the RTF spec and the FOP source code. The RTF command to
> > look
> > > > > > up is "trrh".
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 15.07.2008 12:38:42 Paul Hunnisett wrote:
> > > > > > > OK - this is almost looking how I want it to after playing around
> > > > with
> > > > > > > tables and I've upgraded to 0.95 as well.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > However, I'm still havign one problem with inserting whitespace
> > into
> > > > the
> > > > > > RTF
> > > > > > > - specifically, line breaks. I have empty table cells that need
> > to
> > > > be a
> > > > > > > certian height, but they are displayed in the RTF reduced down to
> > one
> > > > > > line
> > > > > > > high.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Does anyone know how I can resolve/workaround this?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 3:43 PM, Paul Hunnisett <
> > > > phunnilemur@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Brilliant - thanks, I'll give that a go...
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 3:41 PM, Jeremias Maerki
> > > > <dev@jeremias-maerki.ch
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> If you change the list to a table and use absolute values for
> > > > > > > >> column-width in the table you should be fine. The latter
> > problem
> > > > has
> > > > > > > >> been fixed recently in the 0.95 branch:
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/xmlgraphics/fop/branches/fop-0_95
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> HTH
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> On 09.07.2008 16:31:28 Paul Hunnisett wrote:
> > > > > > > >> > I've tried attaching the fo again.
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> > All I want to do is a simple document. It has some text, a
> > > > simple
> > > > > > list
> > > > > > > >> and
> > > > > > > >> > a simple table. At present I have no option other than RTF
> > -
> > > > unless
> > > > > > I
> > > > > > > >> go
> > > > > > > >> > back and say that it can't be done...
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> > On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 3:17 PM, Jeremias Maerki
> > > > > > <dev@jeremias-maerki.ch
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> > wrote:
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> > > Actually, you forgot to attach the FO file (or it got
> > stripped
> > > > at
> > > > > > some
> > > > > > > >> > > point). Anyway, I can only point you to:
> > > > > > > >> > > http://xmlgraphics.apache.org/fop/0.95/output.html#rtf
> > > > > > > >> > > I've already updated the documentation on the RTF
> > limitations
> > > > a
> > > > > > few
> > > > > > > >> days
> > > > > > > >> > > ago, but those updates aren't live, yet. Just to replicate
> > the
> > > > > > > >> > > information here:
> > > > > > > >> > > These are some known restrictions compared to other
> > supported
> > > > > > output
> > > > > > > >> > > formats (not a complete list):
> > > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > > >> > > * Not supported/implemented:
> > > > > > > >> > > o break-before/after (supported by the RTF
> > library
> > > > but
> > > > > > not
> > > > > > > >> tied
> > > > > > > >> > > into the RTFHandler)
> > > > > > > >> > > o fo:page-number-citation-last
> > > > > > > >> > > o keeps (supported by the RTF library but not
> > tied
> > > > into
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > >> > > RTFHandler)
> > > > > > > >> > > o region-start/end (RTF limitation)
> > > > > > > >> > > o multiple columns
> > > > > > > >> > > * Only a single page-master is supported
> > > > > > > >> > > * Not all variations of fo:leader are supported (RTF
> > > > > > limitation)
> > > > > > > >> > > * percentages are not supported everywhere
> > > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > > >> > > Depending on what you're trying to do tweaking the FO
> > won't
> > > > help
> > > > > > you.
> > > > > > > >> > > Even "tweaking the Java code" ;-) might not help as many
> > FO
> > > > > > features
> > > > > > > >> > > cannot be mapped to RTF. Basically, I don't recommend RTF
> > > > > > production
> > > > > > > >> for
> > > > > > > >> > > anything else than relatively simple documents. The
> > > > limitations
> > > > > > are
> > > > > > > >> too
> > > > > > > >> > > severe.
> > > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > > >> > > On 09.07.2008 15:09:50 Paul Hunnisett wrote:
> > > > > > > >> > > > I've written an FO document that I need to convert into
> > and
> > > > RTF
> > > > > > > >> file. It
> > > > > > > >> > > > comes through the transform all messed up looking (sorry
> > -
> > > > best
> > > > > > > >> > > > description!). If I transform it into a PDF then it
> > looks
> > > > > > perfect,
> > > > > > > >> but
> > > > > > > >> > > the
> > > > > > > >> > > > RTF looks awful.
> > > > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > > > >> > > > I've attached the original fo, the PDF and the RTF
> > output so
> > > > > > that
> > > > > > > >> you can
> > > > > > > >> > > > see what I'm aiming for and what I'm getting...
> > > > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > > > >> > > > I'm assuming the problem is to do with fo features not
> > > > supported
> > > > > > in
> > > > > > > >> the
> > > > > > > >> > > RTF
> > > > > > > >> > > > transform. Is anyone aware of a way that I can tweak my
> > fo
> > > > to
> > > > > > get
> > > > > > > >> the
> > > > > > > >> > > > desired results in a way that will work?
> > > > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > > > >> > > > Cheers
> > > > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > > > >> > > > Paul Hunnisett
> > > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > > >> > > Jeremias Maerki
> > > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> Jeremias Maerki
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Jeremias Maerki
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Jeremias Maerki
> > > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Jeremias Maerki
> >
> >
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Re: Problems transforming to RTF
Posted by Paul Hunnisett <ph...@gmail.com>.
Surely it's just text though? The fact that an RTF reader will interpret is
as having some other meaning shouldn't need to affect the FOP process...
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 4:15 PM, Jeremias Maerki <de...@jeremias-maerki.ch>
wrote:
> Sorry, but that's not how it works. You can't just put RTF markup in
> your FO and expect that to properly show up in RTF files. FOP has to
> support all sorts of different output formats. And hacking in something
> like that is certainly not the way to go. This has to do be done by
> improving the RTF handler in FOP.
>
> On 23.07.2008 16:48:27 Paul Hunnisett wrote:
> > What I mean by 'escaping' is that if I put the following in my fo:
> >
> > <fo:block ...>
> >
> > { \line \line \line \line \line \line \line \line \line \line \line \line
> > \line }
> > </fo:block>
> > Which is just some RTF markup, is output as:
> >
> > \{ \\ line \\ line \\ line \\ line \\ line \\ line \\ line \\ line \\
> line
> > \\ line \\ line \\ line \\ line \}
> >
> > Where the RTF markup is being escaped and I am seeing the \line s as text
> in
> > my output...
> > On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 3:22 PM, Jeremias Maerki <dev@jeremias-maerki.ch
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > What do you mean by "escaping" it? If you open a bugzilla issue and
> > > attach your current patch I'm happy to review it for you and to provide
> > > tips.
> > >
> > > On 23.07.2008 16:16:24 Paul Hunnisett wrote:
> > > > OK - I'm nearly there. The RTF almost looks exactly how I want it
> to.
> > > The
> > > > only thing now is a table cell which need to be certain height is
> shrunk
> > > to
> > > > one line.
> > > >
> > > > I've discovered which RTF markup I could use to achieve the desired
> > > result -
> > > > but the FOP process is escaping it all...
> > > >
> > > > Is there any way of switching that particular feature off?
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 2:25 PM, Jeremias Maerki
> <dev@jeremias-maerki.ch
> > > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Looking at the source code it appears as if only the "height" on
> > > > > fo:table-row is inspected. The right property would actually be
> > > > > "block-progression-dimension" since "height" is mapped to
> > > > > "block-progression-dimension", but that's the way it looks right
> now.
> > > > > I haven't run any tests, but you might want to try specifying the
> > > height
> > > > > on the parent table-row of a cell. If that doesn't help you'll need
> to
> > > > > dive into the RTF spec and the FOP source code. The RTF command to
> look
> > > > > up is "trrh".
> > > > >
> > > > > On 15.07.2008 12:38:42 Paul Hunnisett wrote:
> > > > > > OK - this is almost looking how I want it to after playing around
> > > with
> > > > > > tables and I've upgraded to 0.95 as well.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > However, I'm still havign one problem with inserting whitespace
> into
> > > the
> > > > > RTF
> > > > > > - specifically, line breaks. I have empty table cells that need
> to
> > > be a
> > > > > > certian height, but they are displayed in the RTF reduced down to
> one
> > > > > line
> > > > > > high.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Does anyone know how I can resolve/workaround this?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 3:43 PM, Paul Hunnisett <
> > > phunnilemur@gmail.com>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Brilliant - thanks, I'll give that a go...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 3:41 PM, Jeremias Maerki
> > > <dev@jeremias-maerki.ch
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> If you change the list to a table and use absolute values for
> > > > > > >> column-width in the table you should be fine. The latter
> problem
> > > has
> > > > > > >> been fixed recently in the 0.95 branch:
> > > > > > >>
> > > https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/xmlgraphics/fop/branches/fop-0_95
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> HTH
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> On 09.07.2008 16:31:28 Paul Hunnisett wrote:
> > > > > > >> > I've tried attaching the fo again.
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > All I want to do is a simple document. It has some text, a
> > > simple
> > > > > list
> > > > > > >> and
> > > > > > >> > a simple table. At present I have no option other than RTF
> -
> > > unless
> > > > > I
> > > > > > >> go
> > > > > > >> > back and say that it can't be done...
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 3:17 PM, Jeremias Maerki
> > > > > <dev@jeremias-maerki.ch
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > wrote:
> > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > >> > > Actually, you forgot to attach the FO file (or it got
> stripped
> > > at
> > > > > some
> > > > > > >> > > point). Anyway, I can only point you to:
> > > > > > >> > > http://xmlgraphics.apache.org/fop/0.95/output.html#rtf
> > > > > > >> > > I've already updated the documentation on the RTF
> limitations
> > > a
> > > > > few
> > > > > > >> days
> > > > > > >> > > ago, but those updates aren't live, yet. Just to replicate
> the
> > > > > > >> > > information here:
> > > > > > >> > > These are some known restrictions compared to other
> supported
> > > > > output
> > > > > > >> > > formats (not a complete list):
> > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > > * Not supported/implemented:
> > > > > > >> > > o break-before/after (supported by the RTF
> library
> > > but
> > > > > not
> > > > > > >> tied
> > > > > > >> > > into the RTFHandler)
> > > > > > >> > > o fo:page-number-citation-last
> > > > > > >> > > o keeps (supported by the RTF library but not
> tied
> > > into
> > > > > the
> > > > > > >> > > RTFHandler)
> > > > > > >> > > o region-start/end (RTF limitation)
> > > > > > >> > > o multiple columns
> > > > > > >> > > * Only a single page-master is supported
> > > > > > >> > > * Not all variations of fo:leader are supported (RTF
> > > > > limitation)
> > > > > > >> > > * percentages are not supported everywhere
> > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > > Depending on what you're trying to do tweaking the FO
> won't
> > > help
> > > > > you.
> > > > > > >> > > Even "tweaking the Java code" ;-) might not help as many
> FO
> > > > > features
> > > > > > >> > > cannot be mapped to RTF. Basically, I don't recommend RTF
> > > > > production
> > > > > > >> for
> > > > > > >> > > anything else than relatively simple documents. The
> > > limitations
> > > > > are
> > > > > > >> too
> > > > > > >> > > severe.
> > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > > On 09.07.2008 15:09:50 Paul Hunnisett wrote:
> > > > > > >> > > > I've written an FO document that I need to convert into
> and
> > > RTF
> > > > > > >> file. It
> > > > > > >> > > > comes through the transform all messed up looking (sorry
> -
> > > best
> > > > > > >> > > > description!). If I transform it into a PDF then it
> looks
> > > > > perfect,
> > > > > > >> but
> > > > > > >> > > the
> > > > > > >> > > > RTF looks awful.
> > > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > I've attached the original fo, the PDF and the RTF
> output so
> > > > > that
> > > > > > >> you can
> > > > > > >> > > > see what I'm aiming for and what I'm getting...
> > > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > I'm assuming the problem is to do with fo features not
> > > supported
> > > > > in
> > > > > > >> the
> > > > > > >> > > RTF
> > > > > > >> > > > transform. Is anyone aware of a way that I can tweak my
> fo
> > > to
> > > > > get
> > > > > > >> the
> > > > > > >> > > > desired results in a way that will work?
> > > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > Cheers
> > > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > > >> > > > Paul Hunnisett
> > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > > Jeremias Maerki
> > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > >> > >
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> Jeremias Maerki
> > > > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Jeremias Maerki
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Jeremias Maerki
> > >
>
>
>
>
> Jeremias Maerki
>
>
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Re: Problems transforming to RTF
Posted by Jeremias Maerki <de...@jeremias-maerki.ch>.
Sorry, but that's not how it works. You can't just put RTF markup in
your FO and expect that to properly show up in RTF files. FOP has to
support all sorts of different output formats. And hacking in something
like that is certainly not the way to go. This has to do be done by
improving the RTF handler in FOP.
On 23.07.2008 16:48:27 Paul Hunnisett wrote:
> What I mean by 'escaping' is that if I put the following in my fo:
>
> <fo:block ...>
>
> { \line \line \line \line \line \line \line \line \line \line \line \line
> \line }
> </fo:block>
> Which is just some RTF markup, is output as:
>
> \{ \\ line \\ line \\ line \\ line \\ line \\ line \\ line \\ line \\ line
> \\ line \\ line \\ line \\ line \}
>
> Where the RTF markup is being escaped and I am seeing the \line s as text in
> my output...
> On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 3:22 PM, Jeremias Maerki <de...@jeremias-maerki.ch>
> wrote:
>
> > What do you mean by "escaping" it? If you open a bugzilla issue and
> > attach your current patch I'm happy to review it for you and to provide
> > tips.
> >
> > On 23.07.2008 16:16:24 Paul Hunnisett wrote:
> > > OK - I'm nearly there. The RTF almost looks exactly how I want it to.
> > The
> > > only thing now is a table cell which need to be certain height is shrunk
> > to
> > > one line.
> > >
> > > I've discovered which RTF markup I could use to achieve the desired
> > result -
> > > but the FOP process is escaping it all...
> > >
> > > Is there any way of switching that particular feature off?
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 2:25 PM, Jeremias Maerki <dev@jeremias-maerki.ch
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Looking at the source code it appears as if only the "height" on
> > > > fo:table-row is inspected. The right property would actually be
> > > > "block-progression-dimension" since "height" is mapped to
> > > > "block-progression-dimension", but that's the way it looks right now.
> > > > I haven't run any tests, but you might want to try specifying the
> > height
> > > > on the parent table-row of a cell. If that doesn't help you'll need to
> > > > dive into the RTF spec and the FOP source code. The RTF command to look
> > > > up is "trrh".
> > > >
> > > > On 15.07.2008 12:38:42 Paul Hunnisett wrote:
> > > > > OK - this is almost looking how I want it to after playing around
> > with
> > > > > tables and I've upgraded to 0.95 as well.
> > > > >
> > > > > However, I'm still havign one problem with inserting whitespace into
> > the
> > > > RTF
> > > > > - specifically, line breaks. I have empty table cells that need to
> > be a
> > > > > certian height, but they are displayed in the RTF reduced down to one
> > > > line
> > > > > high.
> > > > >
> > > > > Does anyone know how I can resolve/workaround this?
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 3:43 PM, Paul Hunnisett <
> > phunnilemur@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Brilliant - thanks, I'll give that a go...
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 3:41 PM, Jeremias Maerki
> > <dev@jeremias-maerki.ch
> > > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> If you change the list to a table and use absolute values for
> > > > > >> column-width in the table you should be fine. The latter problem
> > has
> > > > > >> been fixed recently in the 0.95 branch:
> > > > > >>
> > https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/xmlgraphics/fop/branches/fop-0_95
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> HTH
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> On 09.07.2008 16:31:28 Paul Hunnisett wrote:
> > > > > >> > I've tried attaching the fo again.
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > All I want to do is a simple document. It has some text, a
> > simple
> > > > list
> > > > > >> and
> > > > > >> > a simple table. At present I have no option other than RTF -
> > unless
> > > > I
> > > > > >> go
> > > > > >> > back and say that it can't be done...
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 3:17 PM, Jeremias Maerki
> > > > <dev@jeremias-maerki.ch
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > wrote:
> > > > > >> >
> > > > > >> > > Actually, you forgot to attach the FO file (or it got stripped
> > at
> > > > some
> > > > > >> > > point). Anyway, I can only point you to:
> > > > > >> > > http://xmlgraphics.apache.org/fop/0.95/output.html#rtf
> > > > > >> > > I've already updated the documentation on the RTF limitations
> > a
> > > > few
> > > > > >> days
> > > > > >> > > ago, but those updates aren't live, yet. Just to replicate the
> > > > > >> > > information here:
> > > > > >> > > These are some known restrictions compared to other supported
> > > > output
> > > > > >> > > formats (not a complete list):
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > * Not supported/implemented:
> > > > > >> > > o break-before/after (supported by the RTF library
> > but
> > > > not
> > > > > >> tied
> > > > > >> > > into the RTFHandler)
> > > > > >> > > o fo:page-number-citation-last
> > > > > >> > > o keeps (supported by the RTF library but not tied
> > into
> > > > the
> > > > > >> > > RTFHandler)
> > > > > >> > > o region-start/end (RTF limitation)
> > > > > >> > > o multiple columns
> > > > > >> > > * Only a single page-master is supported
> > > > > >> > > * Not all variations of fo:leader are supported (RTF
> > > > limitation)
> > > > > >> > > * percentages are not supported everywhere
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > Depending on what you're trying to do tweaking the FO won't
> > help
> > > > you.
> > > > > >> > > Even "tweaking the Java code" ;-) might not help as many FO
> > > > features
> > > > > >> > > cannot be mapped to RTF. Basically, I don't recommend RTF
> > > > production
> > > > > >> for
> > > > > >> > > anything else than relatively simple documents. The
> > limitations
> > > > are
> > > > > >> too
> > > > > >> > > severe.
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > On 09.07.2008 15:09:50 Paul Hunnisett wrote:
> > > > > >> > > > I've written an FO document that I need to convert into and
> > RTF
> > > > > >> file. It
> > > > > >> > > > comes through the transform all messed up looking (sorry -
> > best
> > > > > >> > > > description!). If I transform it into a PDF then it looks
> > > > perfect,
> > > > > >> but
> > > > > >> > > the
> > > > > >> > > > RTF looks awful.
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > > > I've attached the original fo, the PDF and the RTF output so
> > > > that
> > > > > >> you can
> > > > > >> > > > see what I'm aiming for and what I'm getting...
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > > > I'm assuming the problem is to do with fo features not
> > supported
> > > > in
> > > > > >> the
> > > > > >> > > RTF
> > > > > >> > > > transform. Is anyone aware of a way that I can tweak my fo
> > to
> > > > get
> > > > > >> the
> > > > > >> > > > desired results in a way that will work?
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > > > Cheers
> > > > > >> > > >
> > > > > >> > > > Paul Hunnisett
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > > Jeremias Maerki
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >> > >
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Jeremias Maerki
> > > > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Jeremias Maerki
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> >
> >
> > Jeremias Maerki
> >
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Re: Problems transforming to RTF
Posted by Paul Hunnisett <ph...@gmail.com>.
What I mean by 'escaping' is that if I put the following in my fo:
<fo:block ...>
{ \line \line \line \line \line \line \line \line \line \line \line \line
\line }
</fo:block>
Which is just some RTF markup, is output as:
\{ \\ line \\ line \\ line \\ line \\ line \\ line \\ line \\ line \\ line
\\ line \\ line \\ line \\ line \}
Where the RTF markup is being escaped and I am seeing the \line s as text in
my output...
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 3:22 PM, Jeremias Maerki <de...@jeremias-maerki.ch>
wrote:
> What do you mean by "escaping" it? If you open a bugzilla issue and
> attach your current patch I'm happy to review it for you and to provide
> tips.
>
> On 23.07.2008 16:16:24 Paul Hunnisett wrote:
> > OK - I'm nearly there. The RTF almost looks exactly how I want it to.
> The
> > only thing now is a table cell which need to be certain height is shrunk
> to
> > one line.
> >
> > I've discovered which RTF markup I could use to achieve the desired
> result -
> > but the FOP process is escaping it all...
> >
> > Is there any way of switching that particular feature off?
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 2:25 PM, Jeremias Maerki <dev@jeremias-maerki.ch
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Looking at the source code it appears as if only the "height" on
> > > fo:table-row is inspected. The right property would actually be
> > > "block-progression-dimension" since "height" is mapped to
> > > "block-progression-dimension", but that's the way it looks right now.
> > > I haven't run any tests, but you might want to try specifying the
> height
> > > on the parent table-row of a cell. If that doesn't help you'll need to
> > > dive into the RTF spec and the FOP source code. The RTF command to look
> > > up is "trrh".
> > >
> > > On 15.07.2008 12:38:42 Paul Hunnisett wrote:
> > > > OK - this is almost looking how I want it to after playing around
> with
> > > > tables and I've upgraded to 0.95 as well.
> > > >
> > > > However, I'm still havign one problem with inserting whitespace into
> the
> > > RTF
> > > > - specifically, line breaks. I have empty table cells that need to
> be a
> > > > certian height, but they are displayed in the RTF reduced down to one
> > > line
> > > > high.
> > > >
> > > > Does anyone know how I can resolve/workaround this?
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 3:43 PM, Paul Hunnisett <
> phunnilemur@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Brilliant - thanks, I'll give that a go...
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 3:41 PM, Jeremias Maerki
> <dev@jeremias-maerki.ch
> > > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> If you change the list to a table and use absolute values for
> > > > >> column-width in the table you should be fine. The latter problem
> has
> > > > >> been fixed recently in the 0.95 branch:
> > > > >>
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/xmlgraphics/fop/branches/fop-0_95
> > > > >>
> > > > >> HTH
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On 09.07.2008 16:31:28 Paul Hunnisett wrote:
> > > > >> > I've tried attaching the fo again.
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > All I want to do is a simple document. It has some text, a
> simple
> > > list
> > > > >> and
> > > > >> > a simple table. At present I have no option other than RTF -
> unless
> > > I
> > > > >> go
> > > > >> > back and say that it can't be done...
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 3:17 PM, Jeremias Maerki
> > > <dev@jeremias-maerki.ch
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > wrote:
> > > > >> >
> > > > >> > > Actually, you forgot to attach the FO file (or it got stripped
> at
> > > some
> > > > >> > > point). Anyway, I can only point you to:
> > > > >> > > http://xmlgraphics.apache.org/fop/0.95/output.html#rtf
> > > > >> > > I've already updated the documentation on the RTF limitations
> a
> > > few
> > > > >> days
> > > > >> > > ago, but those updates aren't live, yet. Just to replicate the
> > > > >> > > information here:
> > > > >> > > These are some known restrictions compared to other supported
> > > output
> > > > >> > > formats (not a complete list):
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > * Not supported/implemented:
> > > > >> > > o break-before/after (supported by the RTF library
> but
> > > not
> > > > >> tied
> > > > >> > > into the RTFHandler)
> > > > >> > > o fo:page-number-citation-last
> > > > >> > > o keeps (supported by the RTF library but not tied
> into
> > > the
> > > > >> > > RTFHandler)
> > > > >> > > o region-start/end (RTF limitation)
> > > > >> > > o multiple columns
> > > > >> > > * Only a single page-master is supported
> > > > >> > > * Not all variations of fo:leader are supported (RTF
> > > limitation)
> > > > >> > > * percentages are not supported everywhere
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > Depending on what you're trying to do tweaking the FO won't
> help
> > > you.
> > > > >> > > Even "tweaking the Java code" ;-) might not help as many FO
> > > features
> > > > >> > > cannot be mapped to RTF. Basically, I don't recommend RTF
> > > production
> > > > >> for
> > > > >> > > anything else than relatively simple documents. The
> limitations
> > > are
> > > > >> too
> > > > >> > > severe.
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > On 09.07.2008 15:09:50 Paul Hunnisett wrote:
> > > > >> > > > I've written an FO document that I need to convert into and
> RTF
> > > > >> file. It
> > > > >> > > > comes through the transform all messed up looking (sorry -
> best
> > > > >> > > > description!). If I transform it into a PDF then it looks
> > > perfect,
> > > > >> but
> > > > >> > > the
> > > > >> > > > RTF looks awful.
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > > I've attached the original fo, the PDF and the RTF output so
> > > that
> > > > >> you can
> > > > >> > > > see what I'm aiming for and what I'm getting...
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > > I'm assuming the problem is to do with fo features not
> supported
> > > in
> > > > >> the
> > > > >> > > RTF
> > > > >> > > > transform. Is anyone aware of a way that I can tweak my fo
> to
> > > get
> > > > >> the
> > > > >> > > > desired results in a way that will work?
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > > Cheers
> > > > >> > > >
> > > > >> > > > Paul Hunnisett
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > > Jeremias Maerki
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >> > >
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Jeremias Maerki
> > > > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Jeremias Maerki
> > >
> > >
>
>
>
> Jeremias Maerki
>
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Re: Problems transforming to RTF
Posted by Jeremias Maerki <de...@jeremias-maerki.ch>.
What do you mean by "escaping" it? If you open a bugzilla issue and
attach your current patch I'm happy to review it for you and to provide
tips.
On 23.07.2008 16:16:24 Paul Hunnisett wrote:
> OK - I'm nearly there. The RTF almost looks exactly how I want it to. The
> only thing now is a table cell which need to be certain height is shrunk to
> one line.
>
> I've discovered which RTF markup I could use to achieve the desired result -
> but the FOP process is escaping it all...
>
> Is there any way of switching that particular feature off?
>
> On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 2:25 PM, Jeremias Maerki <de...@jeremias-maerki.ch>
> wrote:
>
> > Looking at the source code it appears as if only the "height" on
> > fo:table-row is inspected. The right property would actually be
> > "block-progression-dimension" since "height" is mapped to
> > "block-progression-dimension", but that's the way it looks right now.
> > I haven't run any tests, but you might want to try specifying the height
> > on the parent table-row of a cell. If that doesn't help you'll need to
> > dive into the RTF spec and the FOP source code. The RTF command to look
> > up is "trrh".
> >
> > On 15.07.2008 12:38:42 Paul Hunnisett wrote:
> > > OK - this is almost looking how I want it to after playing around with
> > > tables and I've upgraded to 0.95 as well.
> > >
> > > However, I'm still havign one problem with inserting whitespace into the
> > RTF
> > > - specifically, line breaks. I have empty table cells that need to be a
> > > certian height, but they are displayed in the RTF reduced down to one
> > line
> > > high.
> > >
> > > Does anyone know how I can resolve/workaround this?
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 3:43 PM, Paul Hunnisett <ph...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Brilliant - thanks, I'll give that a go...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 3:41 PM, Jeremias Maerki <dev@jeremias-maerki.ch
> > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> If you change the list to a table and use absolute values for
> > > >> column-width in the table you should be fine. The latter problem has
> > > >> been fixed recently in the 0.95 branch:
> > > >> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/xmlgraphics/fop/branches/fop-0_95
> > > >>
> > > >> HTH
> > > >>
> > > >> On 09.07.2008 16:31:28 Paul Hunnisett wrote:
> > > >> > I've tried attaching the fo again.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > All I want to do is a simple document. It has some text, a simple
> > list
> > > >> and
> > > >> > a simple table. At present I have no option other than RTF - unless
> > I
> > > >> go
> > > >> > back and say that it can't be done...
> > > >> >
> > > >> > On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 3:17 PM, Jeremias Maerki
> > <dev@jeremias-maerki.ch
> > > >> >
> > > >> > wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > > Actually, you forgot to attach the FO file (or it got stripped at
> > some
> > > >> > > point). Anyway, I can only point you to:
> > > >> > > http://xmlgraphics.apache.org/fop/0.95/output.html#rtf
> > > >> > > I've already updated the documentation on the RTF limitations a
> > few
> > > >> days
> > > >> > > ago, but those updates aren't live, yet. Just to replicate the
> > > >> > > information here:
> > > >> > > These are some known restrictions compared to other supported
> > output
> > > >> > > formats (not a complete list):
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > * Not supported/implemented:
> > > >> > > o break-before/after (supported by the RTF library but
> > not
> > > >> tied
> > > >> > > into the RTFHandler)
> > > >> > > o fo:page-number-citation-last
> > > >> > > o keeps (supported by the RTF library but not tied into
> > the
> > > >> > > RTFHandler)
> > > >> > > o region-start/end (RTF limitation)
> > > >> > > o multiple columns
> > > >> > > * Only a single page-master is supported
> > > >> > > * Not all variations of fo:leader are supported (RTF
> > limitation)
> > > >> > > * percentages are not supported everywhere
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Depending on what you're trying to do tweaking the FO won't help
> > you.
> > > >> > > Even "tweaking the Java code" ;-) might not help as many FO
> > features
> > > >> > > cannot be mapped to RTF. Basically, I don't recommend RTF
> > production
> > > >> for
> > > >> > > anything else than relatively simple documents. The limitations
> > are
> > > >> too
> > > >> > > severe.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > On 09.07.2008 15:09:50 Paul Hunnisett wrote:
> > > >> > > > I've written an FO document that I need to convert into and RTF
> > > >> file. It
> > > >> > > > comes through the transform all messed up looking (sorry - best
> > > >> > > > description!). If I transform it into a PDF then it looks
> > perfect,
> > > >> but
> > > >> > > the
> > > >> > > > RTF looks awful.
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > I've attached the original fo, the PDF and the RTF output so
> > that
> > > >> you can
> > > >> > > > see what I'm aiming for and what I'm getting...
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > I'm assuming the problem is to do with fo features not supported
> > in
> > > >> the
> > > >> > > RTF
> > > >> > > > transform. Is anyone aware of a way that I can tweak my fo to
> > get
> > > >> the
> > > >> > > > desired results in a way that will work?
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > Cheers
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > Paul Hunnisett
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > Jeremias Maerki
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Jeremias Maerki
> > > >>
> >
> >
> >
> > Jeremias Maerki
> >
> >
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Re: Problems transforming to RTF
Posted by Paul Hunnisett <ph...@gmail.com>.
OK - I'm nearly there. The RTF almost looks exactly how I want it to. The
only thing now is a table cell which need to be certain height is shrunk to
one line.
I've discovered which RTF markup I could use to achieve the desired result -
but the FOP process is escaping it all...
Is there any way of switching that particular feature off?
On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 2:25 PM, Jeremias Maerki <de...@jeremias-maerki.ch>
wrote:
> Looking at the source code it appears as if only the "height" on
> fo:table-row is inspected. The right property would actually be
> "block-progression-dimension" since "height" is mapped to
> "block-progression-dimension", but that's the way it looks right now.
> I haven't run any tests, but you might want to try specifying the height
> on the parent table-row of a cell. If that doesn't help you'll need to
> dive into the RTF spec and the FOP source code. The RTF command to look
> up is "trrh".
>
> On 15.07.2008 12:38:42 Paul Hunnisett wrote:
> > OK - this is almost looking how I want it to after playing around with
> > tables and I've upgraded to 0.95 as well.
> >
> > However, I'm still havign one problem with inserting whitespace into the
> RTF
> > - specifically, line breaks. I have empty table cells that need to be a
> > certian height, but they are displayed in the RTF reduced down to one
> line
> > high.
> >
> > Does anyone know how I can resolve/workaround this?
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 3:43 PM, Paul Hunnisett <ph...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Brilliant - thanks, I'll give that a go...
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 3:41 PM, Jeremias Maerki <dev@jeremias-maerki.ch
> >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> If you change the list to a table and use absolute values for
> > >> column-width in the table you should be fine. The latter problem has
> > >> been fixed recently in the 0.95 branch:
> > >> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/xmlgraphics/fop/branches/fop-0_95
> > >>
> > >> HTH
> > >>
> > >> On 09.07.2008 16:31:28 Paul Hunnisett wrote:
> > >> > I've tried attaching the fo again.
> > >> >
> > >> > All I want to do is a simple document. It has some text, a simple
> list
> > >> and
> > >> > a simple table. At present I have no option other than RTF - unless
> I
> > >> go
> > >> > back and say that it can't be done...
> > >> >
> > >> > On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 3:17 PM, Jeremias Maerki
> <dev@jeremias-maerki.ch
> > >> >
> > >> > wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > > Actually, you forgot to attach the FO file (or it got stripped at
> some
> > >> > > point). Anyway, I can only point you to:
> > >> > > http://xmlgraphics.apache.org/fop/0.95/output.html#rtf
> > >> > > I've already updated the documentation on the RTF limitations a
> few
> > >> days
> > >> > > ago, but those updates aren't live, yet. Just to replicate the
> > >> > > information here:
> > >> > > These are some known restrictions compared to other supported
> output
> > >> > > formats (not a complete list):
> > >> > >
> > >> > > * Not supported/implemented:
> > >> > > o break-before/after (supported by the RTF library but
> not
> > >> tied
> > >> > > into the RTFHandler)
> > >> > > o fo:page-number-citation-last
> > >> > > o keeps (supported by the RTF library but not tied into
> the
> > >> > > RTFHandler)
> > >> > > o region-start/end (RTF limitation)
> > >> > > o multiple columns
> > >> > > * Only a single page-master is supported
> > >> > > * Not all variations of fo:leader are supported (RTF
> limitation)
> > >> > > * percentages are not supported everywhere
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Depending on what you're trying to do tweaking the FO won't help
> you.
> > >> > > Even "tweaking the Java code" ;-) might not help as many FO
> features
> > >> > > cannot be mapped to RTF. Basically, I don't recommend RTF
> production
> > >> for
> > >> > > anything else than relatively simple documents. The limitations
> are
> > >> too
> > >> > > severe.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > On 09.07.2008 15:09:50 Paul Hunnisett wrote:
> > >> > > > I've written an FO document that I need to convert into and RTF
> > >> file. It
> > >> > > > comes through the transform all messed up looking (sorry - best
> > >> > > > description!). If I transform it into a PDF then it looks
> perfect,
> > >> but
> > >> > > the
> > >> > > > RTF looks awful.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > I've attached the original fo, the PDF and the RTF output so
> that
> > >> you can
> > >> > > > see what I'm aiming for and what I'm getting...
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > I'm assuming the problem is to do with fo features not supported
> in
> > >> the
> > >> > > RTF
> > >> > > > transform. Is anyone aware of a way that I can tweak my fo to
> get
> > >> the
> > >> > > > desired results in a way that will work?
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Cheers
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Paul Hunnisett
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Jeremias Maerki
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >>
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Re: Problems transforming to RTF
Posted by Jeremias Maerki <de...@jeremias-maerki.ch>.
Looking at the source code it appears as if only the "height" on
fo:table-row is inspected. The right property would actually be
"block-progression-dimension" since "height" is mapped to
"block-progression-dimension", but that's the way it looks right now.
I haven't run any tests, but you might want to try specifying the height
on the parent table-row of a cell. If that doesn't help you'll need to
dive into the RTF spec and the FOP source code. The RTF command to look
up is "trrh".
On 15.07.2008 12:38:42 Paul Hunnisett wrote:
> OK - this is almost looking how I want it to after playing around with
> tables and I've upgraded to 0.95 as well.
>
> However, I'm still havign one problem with inserting whitespace into the RTF
> - specifically, line breaks. I have empty table cells that need to be a
> certian height, but they are displayed in the RTF reduced down to one line
> high.
>
> Does anyone know how I can resolve/workaround this?
>
> On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 3:43 PM, Paul Hunnisett <ph...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Brilliant - thanks, I'll give that a go...
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 3:41 PM, Jeremias Maerki <de...@jeremias-maerki.ch>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> If you change the list to a table and use absolute values for
> >> column-width in the table you should be fine. The latter problem has
> >> been fixed recently in the 0.95 branch:
> >> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/xmlgraphics/fop/branches/fop-0_95
> >>
> >> HTH
> >>
> >> On 09.07.2008 16:31:28 Paul Hunnisett wrote:
> >> > I've tried attaching the fo again.
> >> >
> >> > All I want to do is a simple document. It has some text, a simple list
> >> and
> >> > a simple table. At present I have no option other than RTF - unless I
> >> go
> >> > back and say that it can't be done...
> >> >
> >> > On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 3:17 PM, Jeremias Maerki <dev@jeremias-maerki.ch
> >> >
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Actually, you forgot to attach the FO file (or it got stripped at some
> >> > > point). Anyway, I can only point you to:
> >> > > http://xmlgraphics.apache.org/fop/0.95/output.html#rtf
> >> > > I've already updated the documentation on the RTF limitations a few
> >> days
> >> > > ago, but those updates aren't live, yet. Just to replicate the
> >> > > information here:
> >> > > These are some known restrictions compared to other supported output
> >> > > formats (not a complete list):
> >> > >
> >> > > * Not supported/implemented:
> >> > > o break-before/after (supported by the RTF library but not
> >> tied
> >> > > into the RTFHandler)
> >> > > o fo:page-number-citation-last
> >> > > o keeps (supported by the RTF library but not tied into the
> >> > > RTFHandler)
> >> > > o region-start/end (RTF limitation)
> >> > > o multiple columns
> >> > > * Only a single page-master is supported
> >> > > * Not all variations of fo:leader are supported (RTF limitation)
> >> > > * percentages are not supported everywhere
> >> > >
> >> > > Depending on what you're trying to do tweaking the FO won't help you.
> >> > > Even "tweaking the Java code" ;-) might not help as many FO features
> >> > > cannot be mapped to RTF. Basically, I don't recommend RTF production
> >> for
> >> > > anything else than relatively simple documents. The limitations are
> >> too
> >> > > severe.
> >> > >
> >> > > On 09.07.2008 15:09:50 Paul Hunnisett wrote:
> >> > > > I've written an FO document that I need to convert into and RTF
> >> file. It
> >> > > > comes through the transform all messed up looking (sorry - best
> >> > > > description!). If I transform it into a PDF then it looks perfect,
> >> but
> >> > > the
> >> > > > RTF looks awful.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > I've attached the original fo, the PDF and the RTF output so that
> >> you can
> >> > > > see what I'm aiming for and what I'm getting...
> >> > > >
> >> > > > I'm assuming the problem is to do with fo features not supported in
> >> the
> >> > > RTF
> >> > > > transform. Is anyone aware of a way that I can tweak my fo to get
> >> the
> >> > > > desired results in a way that will work?
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Cheers
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Paul Hunnisett
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Jeremias Maerki
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Jeremias Maerki
> >>
Jeremias Maerki
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Re: Problems transforming to RTF
Posted by Paul Hunnisett <ph...@gmail.com>.
OK - this is almost looking how I want it to after playing around with
tables and I've upgraded to 0.95 as well.
However, I'm still havign one problem with inserting whitespace into the RTF
- specifically, line breaks. I have empty table cells that need to be a
certian height, but they are displayed in the RTF reduced down to one line
high.
Does anyone know how I can resolve/workaround this?
On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 3:43 PM, Paul Hunnisett <ph...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Brilliant - thanks, I'll give that a go...
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 3:41 PM, Jeremias Maerki <de...@jeremias-maerki.ch>
> wrote:
>
>> If you change the list to a table and use absolute values for
>> column-width in the table you should be fine. The latter problem has
>> been fixed recently in the 0.95 branch:
>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/xmlgraphics/fop/branches/fop-0_95
>>
>> HTH
>>
>> On 09.07.2008 16:31:28 Paul Hunnisett wrote:
>> > I've tried attaching the fo again.
>> >
>> > All I want to do is a simple document. It has some text, a simple list
>> and
>> > a simple table. At present I have no option other than RTF - unless I
>> go
>> > back and say that it can't be done...
>> >
>> > On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 3:17 PM, Jeremias Maerki <dev@jeremias-maerki.ch
>> >
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > > Actually, you forgot to attach the FO file (or it got stripped at some
>> > > point). Anyway, I can only point you to:
>> > > http://xmlgraphics.apache.org/fop/0.95/output.html#rtf
>> > > I've already updated the documentation on the RTF limitations a few
>> days
>> > > ago, but those updates aren't live, yet. Just to replicate the
>> > > information here:
>> > > These are some known restrictions compared to other supported output
>> > > formats (not a complete list):
>> > >
>> > > * Not supported/implemented:
>> > > o break-before/after (supported by the RTF library but not
>> tied
>> > > into the RTFHandler)
>> > > o fo:page-number-citation-last
>> > > o keeps (supported by the RTF library but not tied into the
>> > > RTFHandler)
>> > > o region-start/end (RTF limitation)
>> > > o multiple columns
>> > > * Only a single page-master is supported
>> > > * Not all variations of fo:leader are supported (RTF limitation)
>> > > * percentages are not supported everywhere
>> > >
>> > > Depending on what you're trying to do tweaking the FO won't help you.
>> > > Even "tweaking the Java code" ;-) might not help as many FO features
>> > > cannot be mapped to RTF. Basically, I don't recommend RTF production
>> for
>> > > anything else than relatively simple documents. The limitations are
>> too
>> > > severe.
>> > >
>> > > On 09.07.2008 15:09:50 Paul Hunnisett wrote:
>> > > > I've written an FO document that I need to convert into and RTF
>> file. It
>> > > > comes through the transform all messed up looking (sorry - best
>> > > > description!). If I transform it into a PDF then it looks perfect,
>> but
>> > > the
>> > > > RTF looks awful.
>> > > >
>> > > > I've attached the original fo, the PDF and the RTF output so that
>> you can
>> > > > see what I'm aiming for and what I'm getting...
>> > > >
>> > > > I'm assuming the problem is to do with fo features not supported in
>> the
>> > > RTF
>> > > > transform. Is anyone aware of a way that I can tweak my fo to get
>> the
>> > > > desired results in a way that will work?
>> > > >
>> > > > Cheers
>> > > >
>> > > > Paul Hunnisett
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Jeremias Maerki
>> > >
>> > >
>>
>>
>>
>> Jeremias Maerki
>>
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Re: Problems transforming to RTF
Posted by Paul Hunnisett <ph...@gmail.com>.
Brilliant - thanks, I'll give that a go...
On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 3:41 PM, Jeremias Maerki <de...@jeremias-maerki.ch>
wrote:
> If you change the list to a table and use absolute values for
> column-width in the table you should be fine. The latter problem has
> been fixed recently in the 0.95 branch:
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/xmlgraphics/fop/branches/fop-0_95
>
> HTH
>
> On 09.07.2008 16:31:28 Paul Hunnisett wrote:
> > I've tried attaching the fo again.
> >
> > All I want to do is a simple document. It has some text, a simple list
> and
> > a simple table. At present I have no option other than RTF - unless I go
> > back and say that it can't be done...
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 3:17 PM, Jeremias Maerki <de...@jeremias-maerki.ch>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Actually, you forgot to attach the FO file (or it got stripped at some
> > > point). Anyway, I can only point you to:
> > > http://xmlgraphics.apache.org/fop/0.95/output.html#rtf
> > > I've already updated the documentation on the RTF limitations a few
> days
> > > ago, but those updates aren't live, yet. Just to replicate the
> > > information here:
> > > These are some known restrictions compared to other supported output
> > > formats (not a complete list):
> > >
> > > * Not supported/implemented:
> > > o break-before/after (supported by the RTF library but not
> tied
> > > into the RTFHandler)
> > > o fo:page-number-citation-last
> > > o keeps (supported by the RTF library but not tied into the
> > > RTFHandler)
> > > o region-start/end (RTF limitation)
> > > o multiple columns
> > > * Only a single page-master is supported
> > > * Not all variations of fo:leader are supported (RTF limitation)
> > > * percentages are not supported everywhere
> > >
> > > Depending on what you're trying to do tweaking the FO won't help you.
> > > Even "tweaking the Java code" ;-) might not help as many FO features
> > > cannot be mapped to RTF. Basically, I don't recommend RTF production
> for
> > > anything else than relatively simple documents. The limitations are too
> > > severe.
> > >
> > > On 09.07.2008 15:09:50 Paul Hunnisett wrote:
> > > > I've written an FO document that I need to convert into and RTF file.
> It
> > > > comes through the transform all messed up looking (sorry - best
> > > > description!). If I transform it into a PDF then it looks perfect,
> but
> > > the
> > > > RTF looks awful.
> > > >
> > > > I've attached the original fo, the PDF and the RTF output so that you
> can
> > > > see what I'm aiming for and what I'm getting...
> > > >
> > > > I'm assuming the problem is to do with fo features not supported in
> the
> > > RTF
> > > > transform. Is anyone aware of a way that I can tweak my fo to get
> the
> > > > desired results in a way that will work?
> > > >
> > > > Cheers
> > > >
> > > > Paul Hunnisett
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Jeremias Maerki
> > >
> > >
>
>
>
> Jeremias Maerki
>
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Re: Problems transforming to RTF
Posted by Jeremias Maerki <de...@jeremias-maerki.ch>.
If you change the list to a table and use absolute values for
column-width in the table you should be fine. The latter problem has
been fixed recently in the 0.95 branch:
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/xmlgraphics/fop/branches/fop-0_95
HTH
On 09.07.2008 16:31:28 Paul Hunnisett wrote:
> I've tried attaching the fo again.
>
> All I want to do is a simple document. It has some text, a simple list and
> a simple table. At present I have no option other than RTF - unless I go
> back and say that it can't be done...
>
> On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 3:17 PM, Jeremias Maerki <de...@jeremias-maerki.ch>
> wrote:
>
> > Actually, you forgot to attach the FO file (or it got stripped at some
> > point). Anyway, I can only point you to:
> > http://xmlgraphics.apache.org/fop/0.95/output.html#rtf
> > I've already updated the documentation on the RTF limitations a few days
> > ago, but those updates aren't live, yet. Just to replicate the
> > information here:
> > These are some known restrictions compared to other supported output
> > formats (not a complete list):
> >
> > * Not supported/implemented:
> > o break-before/after (supported by the RTF library but not tied
> > into the RTFHandler)
> > o fo:page-number-citation-last
> > o keeps (supported by the RTF library but not tied into the
> > RTFHandler)
> > o region-start/end (RTF limitation)
> > o multiple columns
> > * Only a single page-master is supported
> > * Not all variations of fo:leader are supported (RTF limitation)
> > * percentages are not supported everywhere
> >
> > Depending on what you're trying to do tweaking the FO won't help you.
> > Even "tweaking the Java code" ;-) might not help as many FO features
> > cannot be mapped to RTF. Basically, I don't recommend RTF production for
> > anything else than relatively simple documents. The limitations are too
> > severe.
> >
> > On 09.07.2008 15:09:50 Paul Hunnisett wrote:
> > > I've written an FO document that I need to convert into and RTF file. It
> > > comes through the transform all messed up looking (sorry - best
> > > description!). If I transform it into a PDF then it looks perfect, but
> > the
> > > RTF looks awful.
> > >
> > > I've attached the original fo, the PDF and the RTF output so that you can
> > > see what I'm aiming for and what I'm getting...
> > >
> > > I'm assuming the problem is to do with fo features not supported in the
> > RTF
> > > transform. Is anyone aware of a way that I can tweak my fo to get the
> > > desired results in a way that will work?
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > >
> > > Paul Hunnisett
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Jeremias Maerki
> >
> >
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Re: Problems transforming to RTF
Posted by Paul Hunnisett <ph...@gmail.com>.
I've tried attaching the fo again.
All I want to do is a simple document. It has some text, a simple list and
a simple table. At present I have no option other than RTF - unless I go
back and say that it can't be done...
On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 3:17 PM, Jeremias Maerki <de...@jeremias-maerki.ch>
wrote:
> Actually, you forgot to attach the FO file (or it got stripped at some
> point). Anyway, I can only point you to:
> http://xmlgraphics.apache.org/fop/0.95/output.html#rtf
> I've already updated the documentation on the RTF limitations a few days
> ago, but those updates aren't live, yet. Just to replicate the
> information here:
> These are some known restrictions compared to other supported output
> formats (not a complete list):
>
> * Not supported/implemented:
> o break-before/after (supported by the RTF library but not tied
> into the RTFHandler)
> o fo:page-number-citation-last
> o keeps (supported by the RTF library but not tied into the
> RTFHandler)
> o region-start/end (RTF limitation)
> o multiple columns
> * Only a single page-master is supported
> * Not all variations of fo:leader are supported (RTF limitation)
> * percentages are not supported everywhere
>
> Depending on what you're trying to do tweaking the FO won't help you.
> Even "tweaking the Java code" ;-) might not help as many FO features
> cannot be mapped to RTF. Basically, I don't recommend RTF production for
> anything else than relatively simple documents. The limitations are too
> severe.
>
> On 09.07.2008 15:09:50 Paul Hunnisett wrote:
> > I've written an FO document that I need to convert into and RTF file. It
> > comes through the transform all messed up looking (sorry - best
> > description!). If I transform it into a PDF then it looks perfect, but
> the
> > RTF looks awful.
> >
> > I've attached the original fo, the PDF and the RTF output so that you can
> > see what I'm aiming for and what I'm getting...
> >
> > I'm assuming the problem is to do with fo features not supported in the
> RTF
> > transform. Is anyone aware of a way that I can tweak my fo to get the
> > desired results in a way that will work?
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Paul Hunnisett
>
>
>
>
> Jeremias Maerki
>
>
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Re: Problems transforming to RTF
Posted by Jeremias Maerki <de...@jeremias-maerki.ch>.
Actually, you forgot to attach the FO file (or it got stripped at some
point). Anyway, I can only point you to:
http://xmlgraphics.apache.org/fop/0.95/output.html#rtf
I've already updated the documentation on the RTF limitations a few days
ago, but those updates aren't live, yet. Just to replicate the
information here:
These are some known restrictions compared to other supported output formats (not a complete list):
* Not supported/implemented:
o break-before/after (supported by the RTF library but not tied into the RTFHandler)
o fo:page-number-citation-last
o keeps (supported by the RTF library but not tied into the RTFHandler)
o region-start/end (RTF limitation)
o multiple columns
* Only a single page-master is supported
* Not all variations of fo:leader are supported (RTF limitation)
* percentages are not supported everywhere
Depending on what you're trying to do tweaking the FO won't help you.
Even "tweaking the Java code" ;-) might not help as many FO features
cannot be mapped to RTF. Basically, I don't recommend RTF production for
anything else than relatively simple documents. The limitations are too
severe.
On 09.07.2008 15:09:50 Paul Hunnisett wrote:
> I've written an FO document that I need to convert into and RTF file. It
> comes through the transform all messed up looking (sorry - best
> description!). If I transform it into a PDF then it looks perfect, but the
> RTF looks awful.
>
> I've attached the original fo, the PDF and the RTF output so that you can
> see what I'm aiming for and what I'm getting...
>
> I'm assuming the problem is to do with fo features not supported in the RTF
> transform. Is anyone aware of a way that I can tweak my fo to get the
> desired results in a way that will work?
>
> Cheers
>
> Paul Hunnisett
Jeremias Maerki
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