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Posted to dev@lenya.apache.org by Michael Wechner <mi...@wyona.com> on 2005/11/07 08:59:46 UTC

Re: [HEADS-UP] LGPL XSLT code in Lenya repo

Antonio Gallardo wrote:

> Hi:
>
> I got a negative answer. Basically, we cannot include LGPL code, even 
> if this is XSLT source code:
>
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-legal-discuss/200511.mbox/%3cPine.LNX.4.61.0511050134330.16783@kongo%3e 
>


ok, so we will remove it for the moment and replace it by a simple 
placeholder. We can host it at OSCOM or wyona.org

>
> But there is a workaround, using compiled XSLT code:
>
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-legal-discuss/200511.mbox/%3c075B484D-934D-4A53-99F1-78A2902910E1@apache.org%3e 
>
>
> If we will like to include compiled XSLT code, then we need to ask. 
> The solution to that using xalan is here:
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-legal-discuss/200511.mbox/%3c73E12BB1-33AC-4E43-AAF3-4E27D3014262@apache.org%3e 
>
>
> The full thread is here:
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-legal-discuss/200511.mbox/thread 
>


thanks, will take a look at it.

Michi

>
> Best Regards,
>
> Antonio Gallardo.
>
>
>
> Michael Wechner wrote:
>
>> Antonio Gallardo wrote:
>>
>>> Michael Wechner wrote:
>>>
>>>> Antonio Gallardo wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> Is the LGPL allowed to xsl files? I know for java code the answer 
>>>>> is not, but for an XSLT file I am not sure.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I guess the same is true for XSLT, because of redistribution issues.
>>>> But isn't it dual-licensed with "Sun Industry Standards Source 
>>>> License Version 1.1" which seems to be BSD style license?
>>>>
>>>> I guess we need to clarify this as soon as possible and if 
>>>> necessary remove these files from the Lenya repo
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Agreed. I sent a mail to the legal maillist, asking about this 
>>> particular issue. Let see what they will say.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> thanks
>>
>>>
>>>> :-(
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yep. I know this is going to be sad if the license is not allowed. I 
>>> like the idea to have ODS support in Lenya.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> we can still do it, but have to write an XSLT from scratch.
>>
>> In such a case I would suggest that we do a very simple XSLT (as I 
>> did initially)
>> and link to OpenOffice.org or some other place where more 
>> sohpisticated XSLTs can be
>> found in the future.
>>
>> btw, I have talked to the OOo xml community and they are looking 
>> forward to our contribution.
>>
>> Michi
>>
>>> Lets cross fingers. ;-)
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>>
>>> Antonio Gallardo.
>>>
>>> /me lurking on lenya. ;-)
>>>
>>>
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Re: [HEADS-UP] LGPL XSLT code in Lenya repo

Posted by Michael Wechner <mi...@wyona.com>.
Antonio Gallardo wrote:

> Ping! :-)


thanks for the reminder. Will (re)move it tomorrow, but I am too tired
right now ;-)

Thanks

Michi

>
> Best Regards,
>
> Antonio Gallardo.
>
> Michael Wechner wrote:
>
>> Antonio Gallardo wrote:
>>
>>> Hi:
>>>
>>> I got a negative answer. Basically, we cannot include LGPL code, 
>>> even if this is XSLT source code:
>>>
>>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-legal-discuss/200511.mbox/%3cPine.LNX.4.61.0511050134330.16783@kongo%3e 
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ok, so we will remove it for the moment and replace it by a simple 
>> placeholder. We can host it at OSCOM or wyona.org
>>
>>>
>>> But there is a workaround, using compiled XSLT code:
>>>
>>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-legal-discuss/200511.mbox/%3c075B484D-934D-4A53-99F1-78A2902910E1@apache.org%3e 
>>>
>>>
>>> If we will like to include compiled XSLT code, then we need to ask. 
>>> The solution to that using xalan is here:
>>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-legal-discuss/200511.mbox/%3c73E12BB1-33AC-4E43-AAF3-4E27D3014262@apache.org%3e 
>>>
>>>
>>> The full thread is here:
>>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-legal-discuss/200511.mbox/thread 
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> thanks, will take a look at it.
>>
>> Michi
>>
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>>
>>> Antonio Gallardo.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Michael Wechner wrote:
>>>
>>>> Antonio Gallardo wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Michael Wechner wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Antonio Gallardo wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is the LGPL allowed to xsl files? I know for java code the 
>>>>>>> answer is not, but for an XSLT file I am not sure.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I guess the same is true for XSLT, because of redistribution issues.
>>>>>> But isn't it dual-licensed with "Sun Industry Standards Source 
>>>>>> License Version 1.1" which seems to be BSD style license?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I guess we need to clarify this as soon as possible and if 
>>>>>> necessary remove these files from the Lenya repo
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Agreed. I sent a mail to the legal maillist, asking about this 
>>>>> particular issue. Let see what they will say.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> thanks
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> :-(
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Yep. I know this is going to be sad if the license is not allowed. 
>>>>> I like the idea to have ODS support in Lenya.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> we can still do it, but have to write an XSLT from scratch.
>>>>
>>>> In such a case I would suggest that we do a very simple XSLT (as I 
>>>> did initially)
>>>> and link to OpenOffice.org or some other place where more 
>>>> sohpisticated XSLTs can be
>>>> found in the future.
>>>>
>>>> btw, I have talked to the OOo xml community and they are looking 
>>>> forward to our contribution.
>>>>
>>>> Michi
>>>>
>>>>> Lets cross fingers. ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Antonio Gallardo.
>>>>>
>>>>> /me lurking on lenya. ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [HEADS-UP] LGPL XSLT code in Lenya repo

Posted by Antonio Gallardo <ag...@agssa.net>.
Ping! :-)

Best Regards,

Antonio Gallardo.

Michael Wechner wrote:

> Antonio Gallardo wrote:
>
>> Hi:
>>
>> I got a negative answer. Basically, we cannot include LGPL code, even 
>> if this is XSLT source code:
>>
>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-legal-discuss/200511.mbox/%3cPine.LNX.4.61.0511050134330.16783@kongo%3e 
>>
>
>
>
> ok, so we will remove it for the moment and replace it by a simple 
> placeholder. We can host it at OSCOM or wyona.org
>
>>
>> But there is a workaround, using compiled XSLT code:
>>
>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-legal-discuss/200511.mbox/%3c075B484D-934D-4A53-99F1-78A2902910E1@apache.org%3e 
>>
>>
>> If we will like to include compiled XSLT code, then we need to ask. 
>> The solution to that using xalan is here:
>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-legal-discuss/200511.mbox/%3c73E12BB1-33AC-4E43-AAF3-4E27D3014262@apache.org%3e 
>>
>>
>> The full thread is here:
>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/www-legal-discuss/200511.mbox/thread 
>>
>
>
>
> thanks, will take a look at it.
>
> Michi
>
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>> Antonio Gallardo.
>>
>>
>>
>> Michael Wechner wrote:
>>
>>> Antonio Gallardo wrote:
>>>
>>>> Michael Wechner wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Antonio Gallardo wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is the LGPL allowed to xsl files? I know for java code the answer 
>>>>>> is not, but for an XSLT file I am not sure.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I guess the same is true for XSLT, because of redistribution issues.
>>>>> But isn't it dual-licensed with "Sun Industry Standards Source 
>>>>> License Version 1.1" which seems to be BSD style license?
>>>>>
>>>>> I guess we need to clarify this as soon as possible and if 
>>>>> necessary remove these files from the Lenya repo
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Agreed. I sent a mail to the legal maillist, asking about this 
>>>> particular issue. Let see what they will say.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> thanks
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> :-(
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yep. I know this is going to be sad if the license is not allowed. 
>>>> I like the idea to have ODS support in Lenya.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> we can still do it, but have to write an XSLT from scratch.
>>>
>>> In such a case I would suggest that we do a very simple XSLT (as I 
>>> did initially)
>>> and link to OpenOffice.org or some other place where more 
>>> sohpisticated XSLTs can be
>>> found in the future.
>>>
>>> btw, I have talked to the OOo xml community and they are looking 
>>> forward to our contribution.
>>>
>>> Michi
>>>
>>>> Lets cross fingers. ;-)
>>>>
>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>
>>>> Antonio Gallardo.
>>>>
>>>> /me lurking on lenya. ;-)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@lenya.apache.org
>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@lenya.apache.org
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
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