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Posted to dev@jmeter.apache.org by Philippe Mouawad <ph...@gmail.com> on 2013/09/29 14:20:36 UTC
Deprecate SOAP/XML-RPC Request
Hello,
What about deprecating SOAP/XML-RPC Request ?
It duplicates part of HTTP Sampler and uses HTTP Client 3.
I don't see any reason to keep it.
Thoughts ?
--
Regards.
Philippe.
Re: Deprecate SOAP/XML-RPC Request
Posted by sebb <se...@gmail.com>.
On 26 May 2015 at 22:25, Philippe Mouawad <ph...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
> Coming back to this discussion.
>
> Now that template exists and tutorial has been updated to use it shall we
> deprecate sampler in favor of regular http request.
>
> As you can see from this:
> - http://is.muni.cz/th/256206/fi_m/dp.pdf
>
> Author used this one in his benchmark with 2.12 which led to bad results.
> Having a discussion with him he said he wasn't aware of the recommended
> method
> and thought regular http request was a kind of hack.
>
> I would suggest at least adding a comment in component reference to advise
> users to move to regular http request ?
>
> And deprecate it in next release or update its code to use http request.
Updating it to use the current HTTP sampler would be the best solution.
This should ensure the performance is the same as using the HTTP
request plus separate Header Manager, but with the advantage that user
test plans would not need to change, and would benefit from the
improved performance.
Also it would be easier to read and maintain the test plan.
> Thanks
>
> On Thursday, October 3, 2013, Philippe Mouawad <ph...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Already available sebb.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 2:40 PM, sebb <sebbaz@gmail.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','sebbaz@gmail.com');>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 1 October 2013 22:03, Philippe Mouawad <philippe.mouawad@gmail.com
>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','philippe.mouawad@gmail.com');>> wrote:
>>> > On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 6:36 PM, sebb <sebbaz@gmail.com
>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','sebbaz@gmail.com');>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> On 1 October 2013 11:24, Nicola Ambrosetti Brolin
>>> >> <ambrosetti.nicola@gmail.com
>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ambrosetti.nicola@gmail.com');>> wrote:
>>> >> > Maybe it will prompt someone to add xml syntax highlighting and we
>>> could
>>> >> > dream of one day finally being able to generate a soap request from
>>> the
>>> >> > wsdl? Then I could finally drop soapUI ;-)
>>> >>
>>> >> Not sure that syntax highlighting is sufficient, but if it is, that
>>> >> should be easy now that we are using RSyntaxTextArea.
>>> >>
>>> >> When I last looked, there did not seem to be a stand-alone WSDL parser
>>> >> with a suitable license. The existing WSDL parser is extremely basic
>>> >> and only supports very simple WSDL files.
>>> >>
>>> >> >
>>> >> > On 29 September 2013 14:20, Philippe Mouawad <
>>> philippe.mouawad@gmail.com
>>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','philippe.mouawad@gmail.com');>
>>> >> >wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> >> Hello,
>>> >> >> What about deprecating SOAP/XML-RPC Request ?
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> It duplicates part of HTTP Sampler and uses HTTP Client 3.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> I don't see any reason to keep it.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Thoughts ?
>>> >>
>>> >> What do the two requests look like?
>>> >> Is it easy to convert a general SOAP/XML-RPC Request to an HTTP
>>> request?
>>> >>
>>> >> Yes you copy past content in Raw Post Body
>>> > And add a Header Manager for SoapAction
>>> > With templates, it is now very easy.
>>>
>>> In which case, we should add a sample SOAP template or two before
>>> deprecating the sampler.
>>>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> --
>>> >> >> Regards.
>>> >> >> Philippe.
>>> >> >>
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Cordialement.
>>> > Philippe Mouawad.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Cordialement.
>> Philippe Mouawad.
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
> Cordialement.
> Philippe Mouawad.
Re: Deprecate SOAP/XML-RPC Request
Posted by Philippe Mouawad <ph...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
Coming back to this discussion.
Now that template exists and tutorial has been updated to use it shall we
deprecate sampler in favor of regular http request.
As you can see from this:
- http://is.muni.cz/th/256206/fi_m/dp.pdf
Author used this one in his benchmark with 2.12 which led to bad results.
Having a discussion with him he said he wasn't aware of the recommended
method
and thought regular http request was a kind of hack.
I would suggest at least adding a comment in component reference to advise
users to move to regular http request ?
And deprecate it in next release or update its code to use http request.
Thanks
On Thursday, October 3, 2013, Philippe Mouawad <ph...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Already available sebb.
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 2:40 PM, sebb <sebbaz@gmail.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','sebbaz@gmail.com');>> wrote:
>
>> On 1 October 2013 22:03, Philippe Mouawad <philippe.mouawad@gmail.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','philippe.mouawad@gmail.com');>> wrote:
>> > On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 6:36 PM, sebb <sebbaz@gmail.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','sebbaz@gmail.com');>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On 1 October 2013 11:24, Nicola Ambrosetti Brolin
>> >> <ambrosetti.nicola@gmail.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ambrosetti.nicola@gmail.com');>> wrote:
>> >> > Maybe it will prompt someone to add xml syntax highlighting and we
>> could
>> >> > dream of one day finally being able to generate a soap request from
>> the
>> >> > wsdl? Then I could finally drop soapUI ;-)
>> >>
>> >> Not sure that syntax highlighting is sufficient, but if it is, that
>> >> should be easy now that we are using RSyntaxTextArea.
>> >>
>> >> When I last looked, there did not seem to be a stand-alone WSDL parser
>> >> with a suitable license. The existing WSDL parser is extremely basic
>> >> and only supports very simple WSDL files.
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > On 29 September 2013 14:20, Philippe Mouawad <
>> philippe.mouawad@gmail.com
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','philippe.mouawad@gmail.com');>
>> >> >wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Hello,
>> >> >> What about deprecating SOAP/XML-RPC Request ?
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> It duplicates part of HTTP Sampler and uses HTTP Client 3.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I don't see any reason to keep it.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Thoughts ?
>> >>
>> >> What do the two requests look like?
>> >> Is it easy to convert a general SOAP/XML-RPC Request to an HTTP
>> request?
>> >>
>> >> Yes you copy past content in Raw Post Body
>> > And add a Header Manager for SoapAction
>> > With templates, it is now very easy.
>>
>> In which case, we should add a sample SOAP template or two before
>> deprecating the sampler.
>>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> Regards.
>> >> >> Philippe.
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Cordialement.
>> > Philippe Mouawad.
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Cordialement.
> Philippe Mouawad.
>
>
>
--
Cordialement.
Philippe Mouawad.
Re: Deprecate SOAP/XML-RPC Request
Posted by Philippe Mouawad <ph...@gmail.com>.
Already available sebb.
On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 2:40 PM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 1 October 2013 22:03, Philippe Mouawad <ph...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 6:36 PM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On 1 October 2013 11:24, Nicola Ambrosetti Brolin
> >> <am...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > Maybe it will prompt someone to add xml syntax highlighting and we
> could
> >> > dream of one day finally being able to generate a soap request from
> the
> >> > wsdl? Then I could finally drop soapUI ;-)
> >>
> >> Not sure that syntax highlighting is sufficient, but if it is, that
> >> should be easy now that we are using RSyntaxTextArea.
> >>
> >> When I last looked, there did not seem to be a stand-alone WSDL parser
> >> with a suitable license. The existing WSDL parser is extremely basic
> >> and only supports very simple WSDL files.
> >>
> >> >
> >> > On 29 September 2013 14:20, Philippe Mouawad <
> philippe.mouawad@gmail.com
> >> >wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Hello,
> >> >> What about deprecating SOAP/XML-RPC Request ?
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> It duplicates part of HTTP Sampler and uses HTTP Client 3.
> >> >>
> >> >> I don't see any reason to keep it.
> >> >>
> >> >> Thoughts ?
> >>
> >> What do the two requests look like?
> >> Is it easy to convert a general SOAP/XML-RPC Request to an HTTP request?
> >>
> >> Yes you copy past content in Raw Post Body
> > And add a Header Manager for SoapAction
> > With templates, it is now very easy.
>
> In which case, we should add a sample SOAP template or two before
> deprecating the sampler.
>
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Regards.
> >> >> Philippe.
> >> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Cordialement.
> > Philippe Mouawad.
>
--
Cordialement.
Philippe Mouawad.
Re: Deprecate SOAP/XML-RPC Request
Posted by sebb <se...@gmail.com>.
On 1 October 2013 22:03, Philippe Mouawad <ph...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 6:36 PM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 1 October 2013 11:24, Nicola Ambrosetti Brolin
>> <am...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Maybe it will prompt someone to add xml syntax highlighting and we could
>> > dream of one day finally being able to generate a soap request from the
>> > wsdl? Then I could finally drop soapUI ;-)
>>
>> Not sure that syntax highlighting is sufficient, but if it is, that
>> should be easy now that we are using RSyntaxTextArea.
>>
>> When I last looked, there did not seem to be a stand-alone WSDL parser
>> with a suitable license. The existing WSDL parser is extremely basic
>> and only supports very simple WSDL files.
>>
>> >
>> > On 29 September 2013 14:20, Philippe Mouawad <philippe.mouawad@gmail.com
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hello,
>> >> What about deprecating SOAP/XML-RPC Request ?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> It duplicates part of HTTP Sampler and uses HTTP Client 3.
>> >>
>> >> I don't see any reason to keep it.
>> >>
>> >> Thoughts ?
>>
>> What do the two requests look like?
>> Is it easy to convert a general SOAP/XML-RPC Request to an HTTP request?
>>
>> Yes you copy past content in Raw Post Body
> And add a Header Manager for SoapAction
> With templates, it is now very easy.
In which case, we should add a sample SOAP template or two before
deprecating the sampler.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Regards.
>> >> Philippe.
>> >>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Cordialement.
> Philippe Mouawad.
Re: Deprecate SOAP/XML-RPC Request
Posted by Philippe Mouawad <ph...@gmail.com>.
On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 6:36 PM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 1 October 2013 11:24, Nicola Ambrosetti Brolin
> <am...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Maybe it will prompt someone to add xml syntax highlighting and we could
> > dream of one day finally being able to generate a soap request from the
> > wsdl? Then I could finally drop soapUI ;-)
>
> Not sure that syntax highlighting is sufficient, but if it is, that
> should be easy now that we are using RSyntaxTextArea.
>
> When I last looked, there did not seem to be a stand-alone WSDL parser
> with a suitable license. The existing WSDL parser is extremely basic
> and only supports very simple WSDL files.
>
> >
> > On 29 September 2013 14:20, Philippe Mouawad <philippe.mouawad@gmail.com
> >wrote:
> >
> >> Hello,
> >> What about deprecating SOAP/XML-RPC Request ?
> >>
> >>
> >> It duplicates part of HTTP Sampler and uses HTTP Client 3.
> >>
> >> I don't see any reason to keep it.
> >>
> >> Thoughts ?
>
> What do the two requests look like?
> Is it easy to convert a general SOAP/XML-RPC Request to an HTTP request?
>
> Yes you copy past content in Raw Post Body
And add a Header Manager for SoapAction
With templates, it is now very easy.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Regards.
> >> Philippe.
> >>
>
--
Cordialement.
Philippe Mouawad.
Re: Deprecate SOAP/XML-RPC Request
Posted by sebb <se...@gmail.com>.
On 1 October 2013 11:24, Nicola Ambrosetti Brolin
<am...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Maybe it will prompt someone to add xml syntax highlighting and we could
> dream of one day finally being able to generate a soap request from the
> wsdl? Then I could finally drop soapUI ;-)
Not sure that syntax highlighting is sufficient, but if it is, that
should be easy now that we are using RSyntaxTextArea.
When I last looked, there did not seem to be a stand-alone WSDL parser
with a suitable license. The existing WSDL parser is extremely basic
and only supports very simple WSDL files.
>
> On 29 September 2013 14:20, Philippe Mouawad <ph...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>> What about deprecating SOAP/XML-RPC Request ?
>>
>>
>> It duplicates part of HTTP Sampler and uses HTTP Client 3.
>>
>> I don't see any reason to keep it.
>>
>> Thoughts ?
What do the two requests look like?
Is it easy to convert a general SOAP/XML-RPC Request to an HTTP request?
>>
>> --
>> Regards.
>> Philippe.
>>
Re: Deprecate SOAP/XML-RPC Request
Posted by Nicola Ambrosetti Brolin <am...@gmail.com>.
Maybe it will prompt someone to add xml syntax highlighting and we could
dream of one day finally being able to generate a soap request from the
wsdl? Then I could finally drop soapUI ;-)
On 29 September 2013 14:20, Philippe Mouawad <ph...@gmail.com>wrote:
> Hello,
> What about deprecating SOAP/XML-RPC Request ?
>
>
> It duplicates part of HTTP Sampler and uses HTTP Client 3.
>
> I don't see any reason to keep it.
>
> Thoughts ?
>
> --
> Regards.
> Philippe.
>