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Running Samples with the Maven Based Build

Hi Devs,

As I understand the two main tutorials available on the website
(Getting started with file based server, Getting started with Web UI
server) deal with the legacy module in the Ace trunk. So I guess I
have to build the legacy module using Ant to follow these articles. Am
I correct? Are there any similar documents for the Maven based build?

Thanks
-- 
Hiranya Jayathilaka
Senior Software Engineer;
WSO2 Inc.;  http://wso2.org
E-mail: hiranya@wso2.com;  Mobile: +94 77 633 3491
Blog: http://techfeast-hiranya.blogspot.com

Re: Running Samples with the Maven Based Build

Posted by Hiranya Jayathilaka <hi...@gmail.com>.
Hi Toni,

On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 1:46 PM, Toni Menzel <to...@okidokiteam.com> wrote:
> yes, as Marcel said, its for comparison only. In fact, i believe we
> just could delete it, and use a historic checkout for comparison
> instead. That would not confuse people just jumping in and wondering
> about the differences..
> @Hiranya: Do you have an issue with the maven build ?

The Maven build works just fine. No issues there. But I couldn't make
much progress with the Web UI. So I wanted to test the legacy version
and see if that works.

Thanks,
Hiranya

> If so, we would like to hear.
>
> Toni
>
> On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 7:52 AM, Marcel Offermans
> <ma...@luminis.nl> wrote:
>> Hello Hiranya,
>>
>> We are right now not actively maintaining the legacy version. It's still there for quick comparison with the new, Maven build. You are right that the easiest way to update dependencies with the Ant build is to put them in the ext folder. My advice would be to stick with the Maven build though.
>>
>> Greetings, Marcel
>>
>>
>> On 6 Oct 2010, at 5:41 , Hiranya Jayathilaka wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Marcel,
>>>
>>> Thanks for the information. I have made significant progress with your
>>> help. However I also tried to build the legacy module using Ant, but I
>>> got a whole bunch of compilation errors. It seems the Felix jars in
>>> legacy/core/ext are bit outdated. I had to make some changes to the
>>> code to get it compiled. Is this to be expected? In that case I can
>>> provide the changes I did as a patch. However I think it's probably
>>> easier to update the Felix jars in the ext directory.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Hiranya
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 3:59 AM, Marcel Offermans
>>> <ma...@luminis.nl> wrote:
>>>> Hello Hiranya,
>>>>
>>>> Yes, the documentation is still lagging behind a bit as we've basically switched the whole build to Maven now. To build the project, start here:
>>>>
>>>> http://incubator.apache.org/ace/maven-build.html
>>>>
>>>> That should get you two runnable OSGi systems: a server and a target. Run both on your local machine, and point your browser to http://localhost:8080/webui/ to get started.
>>>>
>>>> Let me know if you have any further questions.
>>>>
>>>> Greetings, Marcel
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 5 Oct 2010, at 23:59 , Hiranya Jayathilaka wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Devs,
>>>>>
>>>>> As I understand the two main tutorials available on the website
>>>>> (Getting started with file based server, Getting started with Web UI
>>>>> server) deal with the legacy module in the Ace trunk. So I guess I
>>>>> have to build the legacy module using Ant to follow these articles. Am
>>>>> I correct? Are there any similar documents for the Maven based build?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> --
>>>>> Hiranya Jayathilaka
>>>>> Senior Software Engineer;
>>>>> WSO2 Inc.;  http://wso2.org
>>>>> E-mail: hiranya@wso2.com;  Mobile: +94 77 633 3491
>>>>> Blog: http://techfeast-hiranya.blogspot.com
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Hiranya Jayathilaka
>>> Senior Software Engineer;
>>> WSO2 Inc.;  http://wso2.org
>>> E-mail: hiranya@wso2.com;  Mobile: +94 77 633 3491
>>> Blog: http://techfeast-hiranya.blogspot.com
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Toni Menzel || http://okidokiteam.com
>



-- 
Hiranya Jayathilaka
Senior Software Engineer;
WSO2 Inc.;  http://wso2.org
E-mail: hiranya@wso2.com;  Mobile: +94 77 633 3491
Blog: http://techfeast-hiranya.blogspot.com

Re: Running Samples with the Maven Based Build

Posted by Toni Menzel <to...@okidokiteam.com>.
yes, as Marcel said, its for comparison only. In fact, i believe we
just could delete it, and use a historic checkout for comparison
instead. That would not confuse people just jumping in and wondering
about the differences..
@Hiranya: Do you have an issue with the maven build ?
If so, we would like to hear.

Toni

On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 7:52 AM, Marcel Offermans
<ma...@luminis.nl> wrote:
> Hello Hiranya,
>
> We are right now not actively maintaining the legacy version. It's still there for quick comparison with the new, Maven build. You are right that the easiest way to update dependencies with the Ant build is to put them in the ext folder. My advice would be to stick with the Maven build though.
>
> Greetings, Marcel
>
>
> On 6 Oct 2010, at 5:41 , Hiranya Jayathilaka wrote:
>
>> Hi Marcel,
>>
>> Thanks for the information. I have made significant progress with your
>> help. However I also tried to build the legacy module using Ant, but I
>> got a whole bunch of compilation errors. It seems the Felix jars in
>> legacy/core/ext are bit outdated. I had to make some changes to the
>> code to get it compiled. Is this to be expected? In that case I can
>> provide the changes I did as a patch. However I think it's probably
>> easier to update the Felix jars in the ext directory.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Hiranya
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 3:59 AM, Marcel Offermans
>> <ma...@luminis.nl> wrote:
>>> Hello Hiranya,
>>>
>>> Yes, the documentation is still lagging behind a bit as we've basically switched the whole build to Maven now. To build the project, start here:
>>>
>>> http://incubator.apache.org/ace/maven-build.html
>>>
>>> That should get you two runnable OSGi systems: a server and a target. Run both on your local machine, and point your browser to http://localhost:8080/webui/ to get started.
>>>
>>> Let me know if you have any further questions.
>>>
>>> Greetings, Marcel
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5 Oct 2010, at 23:59 , Hiranya Jayathilaka wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Devs,
>>>>
>>>> As I understand the two main tutorials available on the website
>>>> (Getting started with file based server, Getting started with Web UI
>>>> server) deal with the legacy module in the Ace trunk. So I guess I
>>>> have to build the legacy module using Ant to follow these articles. Am
>>>> I correct? Are there any similar documents for the Maven based build?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>> --
>>>> Hiranya Jayathilaka
>>>> Senior Software Engineer;
>>>> WSO2 Inc.;  http://wso2.org
>>>> E-mail: hiranya@wso2.com;  Mobile: +94 77 633 3491
>>>> Blog: http://techfeast-hiranya.blogspot.com
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Hiranya Jayathilaka
>> Senior Software Engineer;
>> WSO2 Inc.;  http://wso2.org
>> E-mail: hiranya@wso2.com;  Mobile: +94 77 633 3491
>> Blog: http://techfeast-hiranya.blogspot.com
>>
>
>



-- 
Toni Menzel || http://okidokiteam.com

Re: Running Samples with the Maven Based Build

Posted by Marcel Offermans <ma...@luminis.nl>.
Hello Hiranya,

We are right now not actively maintaining the legacy version. It's still there for quick comparison with the new, Maven build. You are right that the easiest way to update dependencies with the Ant build is to put them in the ext folder. My advice would be to stick with the Maven build though.

Greetings, Marcel


On 6 Oct 2010, at 5:41 , Hiranya Jayathilaka wrote:

> Hi Marcel,
> 
> Thanks for the information. I have made significant progress with your
> help. However I also tried to build the legacy module using Ant, but I
> got a whole bunch of compilation errors. It seems the Felix jars in
> legacy/core/ext are bit outdated. I had to make some changes to the
> code to get it compiled. Is this to be expected? In that case I can
> provide the changes I did as a patch. However I think it's probably
> easier to update the Felix jars in the ext directory.
> 
> Thanks,
> Hiranya
> 
> On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 3:59 AM, Marcel Offermans
> <ma...@luminis.nl> wrote:
>> Hello Hiranya,
>> 
>> Yes, the documentation is still lagging behind a bit as we've basically switched the whole build to Maven now. To build the project, start here:
>> 
>> http://incubator.apache.org/ace/maven-build.html
>> 
>> That should get you two runnable OSGi systems: a server and a target. Run both on your local machine, and point your browser to http://localhost:8080/webui/ to get started.
>> 
>> Let me know if you have any further questions.
>> 
>> Greetings, Marcel
>> 
>> 
>> On 5 Oct 2010, at 23:59 , Hiranya Jayathilaka wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Devs,
>>> 
>>> As I understand the two main tutorials available on the website
>>> (Getting started with file based server, Getting started with Web UI
>>> server) deal with the legacy module in the Ace trunk. So I guess I
>>> have to build the legacy module using Ant to follow these articles. Am
>>> I correct? Are there any similar documents for the Maven based build?
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> --
>>> Hiranya Jayathilaka
>>> Senior Software Engineer;
>>> WSO2 Inc.;  http://wso2.org
>>> E-mail: hiranya@wso2.com;  Mobile: +94 77 633 3491
>>> Blog: http://techfeast-hiranya.blogspot.com
>>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Hiranya Jayathilaka
> Senior Software Engineer;
> WSO2 Inc.;  http://wso2.org
> E-mail: hiranya@wso2.com;  Mobile: +94 77 633 3491
> Blog: http://techfeast-hiranya.blogspot.com
> 


Re: Running Samples with the Maven Based Build

Posted by Hiranya Jayathilaka <hi...@gmail.com>.
Hi Marcel,

Thanks for the information. I have made significant progress with your
help. However I also tried to build the legacy module using Ant, but I
got a whole bunch of compilation errors. It seems the Felix jars in
legacy/core/ext are bit outdated. I had to make some changes to the
code to get it compiled. Is this to be expected? In that case I can
provide the changes I did as a patch. However I think it's probably
easier to update the Felix jars in the ext directory.

Thanks,
Hiranya

On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 3:59 AM, Marcel Offermans
<ma...@luminis.nl> wrote:
> Hello Hiranya,
>
> Yes, the documentation is still lagging behind a bit as we've basically switched the whole build to Maven now. To build the project, start here:
>
> http://incubator.apache.org/ace/maven-build.html
>
> That should get you two runnable OSGi systems: a server and a target. Run both on your local machine, and point your browser to http://localhost:8080/webui/ to get started.
>
> Let me know if you have any further questions.
>
> Greetings, Marcel
>
>
> On 5 Oct 2010, at 23:59 , Hiranya Jayathilaka wrote:
>
>> Hi Devs,
>>
>> As I understand the two main tutorials available on the website
>> (Getting started with file based server, Getting started with Web UI
>> server) deal with the legacy module in the Ace trunk. So I guess I
>> have to build the legacy module using Ant to follow these articles. Am
>> I correct? Are there any similar documents for the Maven based build?
>>
>> Thanks
>> --
>> Hiranya Jayathilaka
>> Senior Software Engineer;
>> WSO2 Inc.;  http://wso2.org
>> E-mail: hiranya@wso2.com;  Mobile: +94 77 633 3491
>> Blog: http://techfeast-hiranya.blogspot.com
>>
>
>



-- 
Hiranya Jayathilaka
Senior Software Engineer;
WSO2 Inc.;  http://wso2.org
E-mail: hiranya@wso2.com;  Mobile: +94 77 633 3491
Blog: http://techfeast-hiranya.blogspot.com

Re: Running Samples with the Maven Based Build

Posted by Marcel Offermans <ma...@luminis.nl>.
Hello Hiranya,

Yes, the documentation is still lagging behind a bit as we've basically switched the whole build to Maven now. To build the project, start here:

http://incubator.apache.org/ace/maven-build.html

That should get you two runnable OSGi systems: a server and a target. Run both on your local machine, and point your browser to http://localhost:8080/webui/ to get started.

Let me know if you have any further questions.

Greetings, Marcel


On 5 Oct 2010, at 23:59 , Hiranya Jayathilaka wrote:

> Hi Devs,
> 
> As I understand the two main tutorials available on the website
> (Getting started with file based server, Getting started with Web UI
> server) deal with the legacy module in the Ace trunk. So I guess I
> have to build the legacy module using Ant to follow these articles. Am
> I correct? Are there any similar documents for the Maven based build?
> 
> Thanks
> -- 
> Hiranya Jayathilaka
> Senior Software Engineer;
> WSO2 Inc.;  http://wso2.org
> E-mail: hiranya@wso2.com;  Mobile: +94 77 633 3491
> Blog: http://techfeast-hiranya.blogspot.com
> 


Re: Running Samples with the Maven Based Build

Posted by Marcel Offermans <ma...@luminis.nl>.
Hello Zoe,

The web UI uses a checkout/commit paradigm just like version control systems, so before you start, you "checkout" the data on the server, then you make your changes, and finally you "commit" them back to the server. Only then will they be deployed. We did it like this so you can apply all your changes in one go, instead of running the risk that partial changes get deployed while you're still making them.

When assigning bundles to targets (via features and distributions) these bundles do not physically show up under the gateway on disk. The only thing that's done is that the metadata (the actual assignments of bundles to targets) gets stored. Whenever a target (or rather, management agent on the target) polls the server for an update, a deployment package (full or delta between two versions) is generated on the fly, based on the metadata and the bundles in the OBR.

Greetings, Marcel

On 7 Oct 2010, at 11:08 , zoe slattery wrote:

> On 06/10/2010 21:41, Hiranya Jayathilaka wrote:
>> On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 2:01 AM, Angelo van der Sijpt
>> <an...@luminis.eu>  wrote:
>>> Hm, yes, about the drag and drop... It's very well possible this does not work on Firefox. Last time I checked, Safari and Chrome were both fine. This has something to do with the dnd plugin we use.
>> I tried on FF3 and Chrome. No luck so far :(
> I got further with Chrome. Using Chrome I can:
> 
> 1) Add artifacts
> 2) Add a feature and associate artifacts with it using drag and drop
> 3) Add a distribution and associate features with it
> 4) Drag and drop the distribution to the gateway....
> 
> Then nothing. Listing the bundles in the gateway shows no servicebased* bundles. The frequency of the "[Info ] [   ] Highest remote: null / Highest local: null" makes it very difficult to do much with the gateway console :-/ I would also have expected that teh servicebased* files would show up on disk under the gateway somewhere. They don't, but I may be misunderstanding how this should work :-)
> 
> Zoe
>> Thanks,
>> Hiranya
>> 
>>> Angelo
>>> 
>>> On Oct 6, 2010, at 8:45 PM, Hiranya Jayathilaka wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Zoe,
>>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 12:06 AM, zoe slattery<zo...@gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>>>  On 06/10/2010 18:34, Hiranya Jayathilaka wrote:
>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 3:39 PM, Angelo van der Sijpt
>>>>>> <an...@luminis.eu>    wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Indeed, I created a set of screencasts quite some time ago. You can find
>>>>>>> links to them at http://changelos.com/2009/11/08/apache-ace-visuals/ .
>>>>>> Thanks for the reference Angelo. Will try this out and get back if I
>>>>>> run into any issues.
>>>>> Hi - I followed through Angelo's 'Simple Deployment' video and got up to the
>>>>> point where I could add the three files (servicebased-host.jar etc) as
>>>>> 'Artifacts'. The next step in the video shows creating 'Group's and
>>>>> associating the artifacts with groups. In the current WebUI the 'Group'
>>>>> column is replaced with 'Feature'. I was hoping that this was just a name
>>>>> change - however, although I could create 'Feature's,  the drag and drop
>>>>> which should associate Artifacts with Features does not work for me.
>>>> I'm also stuck at this point. I can add any OSGi bundle into the
>>>> artifact column. I can create new features and distributions in the
>>>> corresponding columns. But the drag-n-drop across different columns
>>>> doesn't seem to do anything. Any help would be much appreciated.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Hiranya
>>>> 
>>>> Any
>>>>> suggestions on how to figure out what is not working would be welcome :-)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Zoe
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Hiranya
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Angelo
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Oct 6, 2010, at 12:05 PM, Toni Menzel wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi Zoe,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> glad to see you + aries people here on ace. ;)
>>>>>>>> The log message "Highest remote: null / Highest local: null" was also
>>>>>>>> a little confusing to me, but it just says, that there is nothing to
>>>>>>>> be deployed on the managementagent (old speak: gateway) yet.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> About: "The WebUI is there but looks a little odd"
>>>>>>>> Its a rush GWT port of a commercial UI that has not been open sourced
>>>>>>>> by luminis. Currently, Marcel is doing a Vaadlin Version instead -
>>>>>>>> heard its much more straightforward to develop such a ui than raw GWT.
>>>>>>>> So, better we'll wait for him here. But i agree the current webUI is
>>>>>>>> not the best thing since sliced bread.
>>>>>>>> But it works, i believe there was a screencast on how to use it by
>>>>>>>> Angelo ? Not sure. If not we should make one. Otherwise its quite hard
>>>>>>>> to get started.
>>>>>>>> As a quick hint: you need to add bundles the repository by copying
>>>>>>>> them to the upload folder (not sure, its called repository i guess in
>>>>>>>> the server folder). They should appear on the left column in the ui.
>>>>>>>> Also, when running one or more gateways, they should appear in the UI,
>>>>>>>> too.
>>>>>>>> Now you can bring the "two" together by wiring them: create a group,
>>>>>>>> drag the artifact (left) on the group, and so on. So its drag an drop
>>>>>>>> based. Coloring indicate "wired" pieces.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Bottomline:
>>>>>>>> Your builds are fine, just the UI needs assistance and/or a replacement.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Toni
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 11:31 AM, zoe slattery<zo...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>  On 05/10/2010 22:59, Hiranya Jayathilaka wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Devs,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> As I understand the two main tutorials available on the website
>>>>>>>>>> (Getting started with file based server, Getting started with Web UI
>>>>>>>>>> server) deal with the legacy module in the Ace trunk. So I guess I
>>>>>>>>>> have to build the legacy module using Ant to follow these articles. Am
>>>>>>>>>> I correct? Are there any similar documents for the Maven based build?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>> I have exactly the same problem. I followed the build instructions for
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> maven build, got the server running and the gateway (albeit with a
>>>>>>>>> distracting info message every second(?) "Highest remote: null /
>>>>>>>>> Highest
>>>>>>>>> local: null") - did not get any further than this so far. The WebUI is
>>>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>>> but looks a little odd - I'd like to get the command line instructions
>>>>>>>>> working, any pointers would be much appreciated.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Zoė
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Toni Menzel || http://okidokiteam.com
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> Hiranya Jayathilaka
>>>> Senior Software Engineer;
>>>> WSO2 Inc.;  http://wso2.org
>>>> E-mail: hiranya@wso2.com;  Mobile: +94 77 633 3491
>>>> Blog: http://techfeast-hiranya.blogspot.com
>>> 
>> 
>> 
> 


Re: Running Samples with the Maven Based Build

Posted by Hiranya Jayathilaka <hi...@gmail.com>.
On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 5:45 PM, zoe slattery <zo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>  Hi Angelo
>>
>> Judging from the steps you described, it seems you missed the 'retrieve'
>> and 'store' steps, which I glossed over in the video. Perhaps
>> http://incubator.apache.org/ace/getting-started-with-the-web-ui-based-server.html
>> is of more help.
>>
> Yes - that's exactly right. I ran through it again and can now replicate
> what you did in the video. Thank you so much for your help.

I could get it to work as well. Thanks for the help folks.

>
> Do you think it's worth updating the getting started instructions as
> follows:
>
> 1) Remove this
> http://incubator.apache.org/ace/getting-started-with-the-file-based-server.html
>  - unless there is a way to make it work?
>
> 2) Update the Web based instructions to:
>  (a) specify Chrome or Safari, or at least provide a warning about FF.
>  (b) point to the new location of the ace-server and ace-target
>  (c) Add a link to your videos.
>  (d) Add the explanation of what the web ui (see Marcel's note) is doing
> under the "how does it work' section.
>
> I'd be happy to provide some updated text - but possibly if you are in the
> middle of refactoring the Web UI it's not worth changing the instructions
> just yet. Wdyt?

+1 for updating the on-line documentation.

Thanks,
Hiranya

>>
>> On Oct 7, 2010, at 11:08 AM, zoe slattery wrote:
>>
>>> On 06/10/2010 21:41, Hiranya Jayathilaka wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 2:01 AM, Angelo van der Sijpt
>>>> <an...@luminis.eu>   wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hm, yes, about the drag and drop... It's very well possible this does
>>>>> not work on Firefox. Last time I checked, Safari and Chrome were both fine.
>>>>> This has something to do with the dnd plugin we use.
>>>>
>>>> I tried on FF3 and Chrome. No luck so far :(
>>>
>>> I got further with Chrome. Using Chrome I can:
>>>
>>> 1) Add artifacts
>>> 2) Add a feature and associate artifacts with it using drag and drop
>>> 3) Add a distribution and associate features with it
>>> 4) Drag and drop the distribution to the gateway....
>>>
>>> Then nothing. Listing the bundles in the gateway shows no servicebased*
>>> bundles. The frequency of the "[Info ] [   ] Highest remote: null / Highest
>>> local: null" makes it very difficult to do much with the gateway console :-/
>>> I would also have expected that teh servicebased* files would show up on
>>> disk under the gateway somewhere. They don't, but I may be misunderstanding
>>> how this should work :-)
>>>
>>> Zoe
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Hiranya
>>>>
>>>>> Angelo
>>>>>
>>>>> On Oct 6, 2010, at 8:45 PM, Hiranya Jayathilaka wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Zoe,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 12:06 AM, zoe slattery<zo...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>   wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  On 06/10/2010 18:34, Hiranya Jayathilaka wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 3:39 PM, Angelo van der Sijpt
>>>>>>>> <an...@luminis.eu>     wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Indeed, I created a set of screencasts quite some time ago. You can
>>>>>>>>> find
>>>>>>>>> links to them at
>>>>>>>>> http://changelos.com/2009/11/08/apache-ace-visuals/ .
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks for the reference Angelo. Will try this out and get back if I
>>>>>>>> run into any issues.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi - I followed through Angelo's 'Simple Deployment' video and got up
>>>>>>> to the
>>>>>>> point where I could add the three files (servicebased-host.jar etc)
>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>> 'Artifacts'. The next step in the video shows creating 'Group's and
>>>>>>> associating the artifacts with groups. In the current WebUI the
>>>>>>> 'Group'
>>>>>>> column is replaced with 'Feature'. I was hoping that this was just a
>>>>>>> name
>>>>>>> change - however, although I could create 'Feature's,  the drag and
>>>>>>> drop
>>>>>>> which should associate Artifacts with Features does not work for me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm also stuck at this point. I can add any OSGi bundle into the
>>>>>> artifact column. I can create new features and distributions in the
>>>>>> corresponding columns. But the drag-n-drop across different columns
>>>>>> doesn't seem to do anything. Any help would be much appreciated.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Hiranya
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> suggestions on how to figure out what is not working would be welcome
>>>>>>> :-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Zoe
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> Hiranya
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Angelo
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Oct 6, 2010, at 12:05 PM, Toni Menzel wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Zoe,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> glad to see you + aries people here on ace. ;)
>>>>>>>>>> The log message "Highest remote: null / Highest local: null" was
>>>>>>>>>> also
>>>>>>>>>> a little confusing to me, but it just says, that there is nothing
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> be deployed on the managementagent (old speak: gateway) yet.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> About: "The WebUI is there but looks a little odd"
>>>>>>>>>> Its a rush GWT port of a commercial UI that has not been open
>>>>>>>>>> sourced
>>>>>>>>>> by luminis. Currently, Marcel is doing a Vaadlin Version instead -
>>>>>>>>>> heard its much more straightforward to develop such a ui than raw
>>>>>>>>>> GWT.
>>>>>>>>>> So, better we'll wait for him here. But i agree the current webUI
>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>> not the best thing since sliced bread.
>>>>>>>>>> But it works, i believe there was a screencast on how to use it by
>>>>>>>>>> Angelo ? Not sure. If not we should make one. Otherwise its quite
>>>>>>>>>> hard
>>>>>>>>>> to get started.
>>>>>>>>>> As a quick hint: you need to add bundles the repository by copying
>>>>>>>>>> them to the upload folder (not sure, its called repository i guess
>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>> the server folder). They should appear on the left column in the
>>>>>>>>>> ui.
>>>>>>>>>> Also, when running one or more gateways, they should appear in the
>>>>>>>>>> UI,
>>>>>>>>>> too.
>>>>>>>>>> Now you can bring the "two" together by wiring them: create a
>>>>>>>>>> group,
>>>>>>>>>> drag the artifact (left) on the group, and so on. So its drag an
>>>>>>>>>> drop
>>>>>>>>>> based. Coloring indicate "wired" pieces.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Bottomline:
>>>>>>>>>> Your builds are fine, just the UI needs assistance and/or a
>>>>>>>>>> replacement.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Toni
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 11:31 AM, zoe
>>>>>>>>>> slattery<zo...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  On 05/10/2010 22:59, Hiranya Jayathilaka wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Devs,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> As I understand the two main tutorials available on the website
>>>>>>>>>>>> (Getting started with file based server, Getting started with
>>>>>>>>>>>> Web UI
>>>>>>>>>>>> server) deal with the legacy module in the Ace trunk. So I guess
>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>> have to build the legacy module using Ant to follow these
>>>>>>>>>>>> articles. Am
>>>>>>>>>>>> I correct? Are there any similar documents for the Maven based
>>>>>>>>>>>> build?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I have exactly the same problem. I followed the build
>>>>>>>>>>> instructions for
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> maven build, got the server running and the gateway (albeit with
>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>> distracting info message every second(?) "Highest remote: null /
>>>>>>>>>>> Highest
>>>>>>>>>>> local: null") - did not get any further than this so far. The
>>>>>>>>>>> WebUI is
>>>>>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>>>>> but looks a little odd - I'd like to get the command line
>>>>>>>>>>> instructions
>>>>>>>>>>> working, any pointers would be much appreciated.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Zoė
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Toni Menzel || http://okidokiteam.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Hiranya Jayathilaka
>>>>>> Senior Software Engineer;
>>>>>> WSO2 Inc.;  http://wso2.org
>>>>>> E-mail: hiranya@wso2.com;  Mobile: +94 77 633 3491
>>>>>> Blog: http://techfeast-hiranya.blogspot.com
>>>>
>>
>
>



-- 
Hiranya Jayathilaka
Senior Software Engineer;
WSO2 Inc.;  http://wso2.org
E-mail: hiranya@wso2.com;  Mobile: +94 77 633 3491
Blog: http://techfeast-hiranya.blogspot.com

Re: Running Samples with the Maven Based Build

Posted by zoe slattery <zo...@gmail.com>.
  Hi Angelo
> Judging from the steps you described, it seems you missed the 'retrieve' and 'store' steps, which I glossed over in the video. Perhaps http://incubator.apache.org/ace/getting-started-with-the-web-ui-based-server.html is of more help.
>
Yes - that's exactly right. I ran through it again and can now replicate 
what you did in the video. Thank you so much for your help.

Do you think it's worth updating the getting started instructions as 
follows:

1) Remove this 
http://incubator.apache.org/ace/getting-started-with-the-file-based-server.html  
- unless there is a way to make it work?

2) Update the Web based instructions to:
  (a) specify Chrome or Safari, or at least provide a warning about FF.
  (b) point to the new location of the ace-server and ace-target
  (c) Add a link to your videos.
  (d) Add the explanation of what the web ui (see Marcel's note) is 
doing under the "how does it work' section.

I'd be happy to provide some updated text - but possibly if you are in 
the middle of refactoring the Web UI it's not worth changing the 
instructions just yet. Wdyt?
>
> On Oct 7, 2010, at 11:08 AM, zoe slattery wrote:
>
>> On 06/10/2010 21:41, Hiranya Jayathilaka wrote:
>>> On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 2:01 AM, Angelo van der Sijpt
>>> <an...@luminis.eu>   wrote:
>>>> Hm, yes, about the drag and drop... It's very well possible this does not work on Firefox. Last time I checked, Safari and Chrome were both fine. This has something to do with the dnd plugin we use.
>>> I tried on FF3 and Chrome. No luck so far :(
>> I got further with Chrome. Using Chrome I can:
>>
>> 1) Add artifacts
>> 2) Add a feature and associate artifacts with it using drag and drop
>> 3) Add a distribution and associate features with it
>> 4) Drag and drop the distribution to the gateway....
>>
>> Then nothing. Listing the bundles in the gateway shows no servicebased* bundles. The frequency of the "[Info ] [   ] Highest remote: null / Highest local: null" makes it very difficult to do much with the gateway console :-/ I would also have expected that teh servicebased* files would show up on disk under the gateway somewhere. They don't, but I may be misunderstanding how this should work :-)
>>
>> Zoe
>>> Thanks,
>>> Hiranya
>>>
>>>> Angelo
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 6, 2010, at 8:45 PM, Hiranya Jayathilaka wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Zoe,
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 12:06 AM, zoe slattery<zo...@gmail.com>   wrote:
>>>>>>   On 06/10/2010 18:34, Hiranya Jayathilaka wrote:
>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 3:39 PM, Angelo van der Sijpt
>>>>>>> <an...@luminis.eu>     wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Indeed, I created a set of screencasts quite some time ago. You can find
>>>>>>>> links to them at http://changelos.com/2009/11/08/apache-ace-visuals/ .
>>>>>>> Thanks for the reference Angelo. Will try this out and get back if I
>>>>>>> run into any issues.
>>>>>> Hi - I followed through Angelo's 'Simple Deployment' video and got up to the
>>>>>> point where I could add the three files (servicebased-host.jar etc) as
>>>>>> 'Artifacts'. The next step in the video shows creating 'Group's and
>>>>>> associating the artifacts with groups. In the current WebUI the 'Group'
>>>>>> column is replaced with 'Feature'. I was hoping that this was just a name
>>>>>> change - however, although I could create 'Feature's,  the drag and drop
>>>>>> which should associate Artifacts with Features does not work for me.
>>>>> I'm also stuck at this point. I can add any OSGi bundle into the
>>>>> artifact column. I can create new features and distributions in the
>>>>> corresponding columns. But the drag-n-drop across different columns
>>>>> doesn't seem to do anything. Any help would be much appreciated.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Hiranya
>>>>>
>>>>> Any
>>>>>> suggestions on how to figure out what is not working would be welcome :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Zoe
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Hiranya
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Angelo
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Oct 6, 2010, at 12:05 PM, Toni Menzel wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Zoe,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> glad to see you + aries people here on ace. ;)
>>>>>>>>> The log message "Highest remote: null / Highest local: null" was also
>>>>>>>>> a little confusing to me, but it just says, that there is nothing to
>>>>>>>>> be deployed on the managementagent (old speak: gateway) yet.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> About: "The WebUI is there but looks a little odd"
>>>>>>>>> Its a rush GWT port of a commercial UI that has not been open sourced
>>>>>>>>> by luminis. Currently, Marcel is doing a Vaadlin Version instead -
>>>>>>>>> heard its much more straightforward to develop such a ui than raw GWT.
>>>>>>>>> So, better we'll wait for him here. But i agree the current webUI is
>>>>>>>>> not the best thing since sliced bread.
>>>>>>>>> But it works, i believe there was a screencast on how to use it by
>>>>>>>>> Angelo ? Not sure. If not we should make one. Otherwise its quite hard
>>>>>>>>> to get started.
>>>>>>>>> As a quick hint: you need to add bundles the repository by copying
>>>>>>>>> them to the upload folder (not sure, its called repository i guess in
>>>>>>>>> the server folder). They should appear on the left column in the ui.
>>>>>>>>> Also, when running one or more gateways, they should appear in the UI,
>>>>>>>>> too.
>>>>>>>>> Now you can bring the "two" together by wiring them: create a group,
>>>>>>>>> drag the artifact (left) on the group, and so on. So its drag an drop
>>>>>>>>> based. Coloring indicate "wired" pieces.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Bottomline:
>>>>>>>>> Your builds are fine, just the UI needs assistance and/or a replacement.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Toni
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 11:31 AM, zoe slattery<zo...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>   wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>   On 05/10/2010 22:59, Hiranya Jayathilaka wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Devs,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> As I understand the two main tutorials available on the website
>>>>>>>>>>> (Getting started with file based server, Getting started with Web UI
>>>>>>>>>>> server) deal with the legacy module in the Ace trunk. So I guess I
>>>>>>>>>>> have to build the legacy module using Ant to follow these articles. Am
>>>>>>>>>>> I correct? Are there any similar documents for the Maven based build?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>> I have exactly the same problem. I followed the build instructions for
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> maven build, got the server running and the gateway (albeit with a
>>>>>>>>>> distracting info message every second(?) "Highest remote: null /
>>>>>>>>>> Highest
>>>>>>>>>> local: null") - did not get any further than this so far. The WebUI is
>>>>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>>>> but looks a little odd - I'd like to get the command line instructions
>>>>>>>>>> working, any pointers would be much appreciated.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Zoė
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Toni Menzel || http://okidokiteam.com
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Hiranya Jayathilaka
>>>>> Senior Software Engineer;
>>>>> WSO2 Inc.;  http://wso2.org
>>>>> E-mail: hiranya@wso2.com;  Mobile: +94 77 633 3491
>>>>> Blog: http://techfeast-hiranya.blogspot.com
>>>
>


Re: Running Samples with the Maven Based Build

Posted by Angelo van der Sijpt <an...@luminis.eu>.
Hi Zoe,

Judging from the steps you described, it seems you missed the 'retrieve' and 'store' steps, which I glossed over in the video. Perhaps http://incubator.apache.org/ace/getting-started-with-the-web-ui-based-server.html is of more help.

Angelo


On Oct 7, 2010, at 11:08 AM, zoe slattery wrote:

> On 06/10/2010 21:41, Hiranya Jayathilaka wrote:
>> On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 2:01 AM, Angelo van der Sijpt
>> <an...@luminis.eu>  wrote:
>>> Hm, yes, about the drag and drop... It's very well possible this does not work on Firefox. Last time I checked, Safari and Chrome were both fine. This has something to do with the dnd plugin we use.
>> I tried on FF3 and Chrome. No luck so far :(
> I got further with Chrome. Using Chrome I can:
> 
> 1) Add artifacts
> 2) Add a feature and associate artifacts with it using drag and drop
> 3) Add a distribution and associate features with it
> 4) Drag and drop the distribution to the gateway....
> 
> Then nothing. Listing the bundles in the gateway shows no servicebased* bundles. The frequency of the "[Info ] [   ] Highest remote: null / Highest local: null" makes it very difficult to do much with the gateway console :-/ I would also have expected that teh servicebased* files would show up on disk under the gateway somewhere. They don't, but I may be misunderstanding how this should work :-)
> 
> Zoe
>> Thanks,
>> Hiranya
>> 
>>> Angelo
>>> 
>>> On Oct 6, 2010, at 8:45 PM, Hiranya Jayathilaka wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Zoe,
>>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 12:06 AM, zoe slattery<zo...@gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>>>  On 06/10/2010 18:34, Hiranya Jayathilaka wrote:
>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 3:39 PM, Angelo van der Sijpt
>>>>>> <an...@luminis.eu>    wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Indeed, I created a set of screencasts quite some time ago. You can find
>>>>>>> links to them at http://changelos.com/2009/11/08/apache-ace-visuals/ .
>>>>>> Thanks for the reference Angelo. Will try this out and get back if I
>>>>>> run into any issues.
>>>>> Hi - I followed through Angelo's 'Simple Deployment' video and got up to the
>>>>> point where I could add the three files (servicebased-host.jar etc) as
>>>>> 'Artifacts'. The next step in the video shows creating 'Group's and
>>>>> associating the artifacts with groups. In the current WebUI the 'Group'
>>>>> column is replaced with 'Feature'. I was hoping that this was just a name
>>>>> change - however, although I could create 'Feature's,  the drag and drop
>>>>> which should associate Artifacts with Features does not work for me.
>>>> I'm also stuck at this point. I can add any OSGi bundle into the
>>>> artifact column. I can create new features and distributions in the
>>>> corresponding columns. But the drag-n-drop across different columns
>>>> doesn't seem to do anything. Any help would be much appreciated.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Hiranya
>>>> 
>>>> Any
>>>>> suggestions on how to figure out what is not working would be welcome :-)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Zoe
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Hiranya
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Angelo
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Oct 6, 2010, at 12:05 PM, Toni Menzel wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi Zoe,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> glad to see you + aries people here on ace. ;)
>>>>>>>> The log message "Highest remote: null / Highest local: null" was also
>>>>>>>> a little confusing to me, but it just says, that there is nothing to
>>>>>>>> be deployed on the managementagent (old speak: gateway) yet.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> About: "The WebUI is there but looks a little odd"
>>>>>>>> Its a rush GWT port of a commercial UI that has not been open sourced
>>>>>>>> by luminis. Currently, Marcel is doing a Vaadlin Version instead -
>>>>>>>> heard its much more straightforward to develop such a ui than raw GWT.
>>>>>>>> So, better we'll wait for him here. But i agree the current webUI is
>>>>>>>> not the best thing since sliced bread.
>>>>>>>> But it works, i believe there was a screencast on how to use it by
>>>>>>>> Angelo ? Not sure. If not we should make one. Otherwise its quite hard
>>>>>>>> to get started.
>>>>>>>> As a quick hint: you need to add bundles the repository by copying
>>>>>>>> them to the upload folder (not sure, its called repository i guess in
>>>>>>>> the server folder). They should appear on the left column in the ui.
>>>>>>>> Also, when running one or more gateways, they should appear in the UI,
>>>>>>>> too.
>>>>>>>> Now you can bring the "two" together by wiring them: create a group,
>>>>>>>> drag the artifact (left) on the group, and so on. So its drag an drop
>>>>>>>> based. Coloring indicate "wired" pieces.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Bottomline:
>>>>>>>> Your builds are fine, just the UI needs assistance and/or a replacement.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Toni
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 11:31 AM, zoe slattery<zo...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>>>  On 05/10/2010 22:59, Hiranya Jayathilaka wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Devs,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> As I understand the two main tutorials available on the website
>>>>>>>>>> (Getting started with file based server, Getting started with Web UI
>>>>>>>>>> server) deal with the legacy module in the Ace trunk. So I guess I
>>>>>>>>>> have to build the legacy module using Ant to follow these articles. Am
>>>>>>>>>> I correct? Are there any similar documents for the Maven based build?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>> I have exactly the same problem. I followed the build instructions for
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> maven build, got the server running and the gateway (albeit with a
>>>>>>>>> distracting info message every second(?) "Highest remote: null /
>>>>>>>>> Highest
>>>>>>>>> local: null") - did not get any further than this so far. The WebUI is
>>>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>>> but looks a little odd - I'd like to get the command line instructions
>>>>>>>>> working, any pointers would be much appreciated.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Zoė
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Toni Menzel || http://okidokiteam.com
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> Hiranya Jayathilaka
>>>> Senior Software Engineer;
>>>> WSO2 Inc.;  http://wso2.org
>>>> E-mail: hiranya@wso2.com;  Mobile: +94 77 633 3491
>>>> Blog: http://techfeast-hiranya.blogspot.com
>>> 
>> 
>> 
> 


Re: Running Samples with the Maven Based Build

Posted by zoe slattery <zo...@gmail.com>.
  On 06/10/2010 21:41, Hiranya Jayathilaka wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 2:01 AM, Angelo van der Sijpt
> <an...@luminis.eu>  wrote:
>> Hm, yes, about the drag and drop... It's very well possible this does not work on Firefox. Last time I checked, Safari and Chrome were both fine. This has something to do with the dnd plugin we use.
> I tried on FF3 and Chrome. No luck so far :(
I got further with Chrome. Using Chrome I can:

1) Add artifacts
2) Add a feature and associate artifacts with it using drag and drop
3) Add a distribution and associate features with it
4) Drag and drop the distribution to the gateway....

Then nothing. Listing the bundles in the gateway shows no servicebased* 
bundles. The frequency of the "[Info ] [   ] Highest remote: null / 
Highest local: null" makes it very difficult to do much with the gateway 
console :-/ I would also have expected that teh servicebased* files 
would show up on disk under the gateway somewhere. They don't, but I may 
be misunderstanding how this should work :-)

Zoe
> Thanks,
> Hiranya
>
>> Angelo
>>
>> On Oct 6, 2010, at 8:45 PM, Hiranya Jayathilaka wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Zoe,
>>>
>>> On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 12:06 AM, zoe slattery<zo...@gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>>   On 06/10/2010 18:34, Hiranya Jayathilaka wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 3:39 PM, Angelo van der Sijpt
>>>>> <an...@luminis.eu>    wrote:
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Indeed, I created a set of screencasts quite some time ago. You can find
>>>>>> links to them at http://changelos.com/2009/11/08/apache-ace-visuals/ .
>>>>> Thanks for the reference Angelo. Will try this out and get back if I
>>>>> run into any issues.
>>>> Hi - I followed through Angelo's 'Simple Deployment' video and got up to the
>>>> point where I could add the three files (servicebased-host.jar etc) as
>>>> 'Artifacts'. The next step in the video shows creating 'Group's and
>>>> associating the artifacts with groups. In the current WebUI the 'Group'
>>>> column is replaced with 'Feature'. I was hoping that this was just a name
>>>> change - however, although I could create 'Feature's,  the drag and drop
>>>> which should associate Artifacts with Features does not work for me.
>>> I'm also stuck at this point. I can add any OSGi bundle into the
>>> artifact column. I can create new features and distributions in the
>>> corresponding columns. But the drag-n-drop across different columns
>>> doesn't seem to do anything. Any help would be much appreciated.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Hiranya
>>>
>>> Any
>>>> suggestions on how to figure out what is not working would be welcome :-)
>>>>
>>>> Zoe
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Hiranya
>>>>>
>>>>>> Angelo
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Oct 6, 2010, at 12:05 PM, Toni Menzel wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Zoe,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> glad to see you + aries people here on ace. ;)
>>>>>>> The log message "Highest remote: null / Highest local: null" was also
>>>>>>> a little confusing to me, but it just says, that there is nothing to
>>>>>>> be deployed on the managementagent (old speak: gateway) yet.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> About: "The WebUI is there but looks a little odd"
>>>>>>> Its a rush GWT port of a commercial UI that has not been open sourced
>>>>>>> by luminis. Currently, Marcel is doing a Vaadlin Version instead -
>>>>>>> heard its much more straightforward to develop such a ui than raw GWT.
>>>>>>> So, better we'll wait for him here. But i agree the current webUI is
>>>>>>> not the best thing since sliced bread.
>>>>>>> But it works, i believe there was a screencast on how to use it by
>>>>>>> Angelo ? Not sure. If not we should make one. Otherwise its quite hard
>>>>>>> to get started.
>>>>>>> As a quick hint: you need to add bundles the repository by copying
>>>>>>> them to the upload folder (not sure, its called repository i guess in
>>>>>>> the server folder). They should appear on the left column in the ui.
>>>>>>> Also, when running one or more gateways, they should appear in the UI,
>>>>>>> too.
>>>>>>> Now you can bring the "two" together by wiring them: create a group,
>>>>>>> drag the artifact (left) on the group, and so on. So its drag an drop
>>>>>>> based. Coloring indicate "wired" pieces.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bottomline:
>>>>>>> Your builds are fine, just the UI needs assistance and/or a replacement.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Toni
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 11:31 AM, zoe slattery<zo...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>   wrote:
>>>>>>>>   On 05/10/2010 22:59, Hiranya Jayathilaka wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hi Devs,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> As I understand the two main tutorials available on the website
>>>>>>>>> (Getting started with file based server, Getting started with Web UI
>>>>>>>>> server) deal with the legacy module in the Ace trunk. So I guess I
>>>>>>>>> have to build the legacy module using Ant to follow these articles. Am
>>>>>>>>> I correct? Are there any similar documents for the Maven based build?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>> I have exactly the same problem. I followed the build instructions for
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> maven build, got the server running and the gateway (albeit with a
>>>>>>>> distracting info message every second(?) "Highest remote: null /
>>>>>>>> Highest
>>>>>>>> local: null") - did not get any further than this so far. The WebUI is
>>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>> but looks a little odd - I'd like to get the command line instructions
>>>>>>>> working, any pointers would be much appreciated.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Zoė
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Toni Menzel || http://okidokiteam.com
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Hiranya Jayathilaka
>>> Senior Software Engineer;
>>> WSO2 Inc.;  http://wso2.org
>>> E-mail: hiranya@wso2.com;  Mobile: +94 77 633 3491
>>> Blog: http://techfeast-hiranya.blogspot.com
>>
>
>


Re: Running Samples with the Maven Based Build

Posted by Hiranya Jayathilaka <hi...@gmail.com>.
On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 2:01 AM, Angelo van der Sijpt
<an...@luminis.eu> wrote:
> Hm, yes, about the drag and drop... It's very well possible this does not work on Firefox. Last time I checked, Safari and Chrome were both fine. This has something to do with the dnd plugin we use.

I tried on FF3 and Chrome. No luck so far :(

Thanks,
Hiranya

>
> Angelo
>
> On Oct 6, 2010, at 8:45 PM, Hiranya Jayathilaka wrote:
>
>> Hi Zoe,
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 12:06 AM, zoe slattery <zo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>  On 06/10/2010 18:34, Hiranya Jayathilaka wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 3:39 PM, Angelo van der Sijpt
>>>> <an...@luminis.eu>  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> Indeed, I created a set of screencasts quite some time ago. You can find
>>>>> links to them at http://changelos.com/2009/11/08/apache-ace-visuals/ .
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for the reference Angelo. Will try this out and get back if I
>>>> run into any issues.
>>>
>>> Hi - I followed through Angelo's 'Simple Deployment' video and got up to the
>>> point where I could add the three files (servicebased-host.jar etc) as
>>> 'Artifacts'. The next step in the video shows creating 'Group's and
>>> associating the artifacts with groups. In the current WebUI the 'Group'
>>> column is replaced with 'Feature'. I was hoping that this was just a name
>>> change - however, although I could create 'Feature's,  the drag and drop
>>> which should associate Artifacts with Features does not work for me.
>>
>> I'm also stuck at this point. I can add any OSGi bundle into the
>> artifact column. I can create new features and distributions in the
>> corresponding columns. But the drag-n-drop across different columns
>> doesn't seem to do anything. Any help would be much appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Hiranya
>>
>> Any
>>> suggestions on how to figure out what is not working would be welcome :-)
>>>
>>> Zoe
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Hiranya
>>>>
>>>>> Angelo
>>>>>
>>>>> On Oct 6, 2010, at 12:05 PM, Toni Menzel wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Zoe,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> glad to see you + aries people here on ace. ;)
>>>>>> The log message "Highest remote: null / Highest local: null" was also
>>>>>> a little confusing to me, but it just says, that there is nothing to
>>>>>> be deployed on the managementagent (old speak: gateway) yet.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> About: "The WebUI is there but looks a little odd"
>>>>>> Its a rush GWT port of a commercial UI that has not been open sourced
>>>>>> by luminis. Currently, Marcel is doing a Vaadlin Version instead -
>>>>>> heard its much more straightforward to develop such a ui than raw GWT.
>>>>>> So, better we'll wait for him here. But i agree the current webUI is
>>>>>> not the best thing since sliced bread.
>>>>>> But it works, i believe there was a screencast on how to use it by
>>>>>> Angelo ? Not sure. If not we should make one. Otherwise its quite hard
>>>>>> to get started.
>>>>>> As a quick hint: you need to add bundles the repository by copying
>>>>>> them to the upload folder (not sure, its called repository i guess in
>>>>>> the server folder). They should appear on the left column in the ui.
>>>>>> Also, when running one or more gateways, they should appear in the UI,
>>>>>> too.
>>>>>> Now you can bring the "two" together by wiring them: create a group,
>>>>>> drag the artifact (left) on the group, and so on. So its drag an drop
>>>>>> based. Coloring indicate "wired" pieces.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bottomline:
>>>>>> Your builds are fine, just the UI needs assistance and/or a replacement.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Toni
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 11:31 AM, zoe slattery<zo...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  On 05/10/2010 22:59, Hiranya Jayathilaka wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Devs,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As I understand the two main tutorials available on the website
>>>>>>>> (Getting started with file based server, Getting started with Web UI
>>>>>>>> server) deal with the legacy module in the Ace trunk. So I guess I
>>>>>>>> have to build the legacy module using Ant to follow these articles. Am
>>>>>>>> I correct? Are there any similar documents for the Maven based build?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have exactly the same problem. I followed the build instructions for
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> maven build, got the server running and the gateway (albeit with a
>>>>>>> distracting info message every second(?) "Highest remote: null /
>>>>>>> Highest
>>>>>>> local: null") - did not get any further than this so far. The WebUI is
>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>> but looks a little odd - I'd like to get the command line instructions
>>>>>>> working, any pointers would be much appreciated.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Zoė
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Toni Menzel || http://okidokiteam.com
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Hiranya Jayathilaka
>> Senior Software Engineer;
>> WSO2 Inc.;  http://wso2.org
>> E-mail: hiranya@wso2.com;  Mobile: +94 77 633 3491
>> Blog: http://techfeast-hiranya.blogspot.com
>
>



-- 
Hiranya Jayathilaka
Senior Software Engineer;
WSO2 Inc.;  http://wso2.org
E-mail: hiranya@wso2.com;  Mobile: +94 77 633 3491
Blog: http://techfeast-hiranya.blogspot.com

Re: Running Samples with the Maven Based Build

Posted by Angelo van der Sijpt <an...@luminis.eu>.
Hm, yes, about the drag and drop... It's very well possible this does not work on Firefox. Last time I checked, Safari and Chrome were both fine. This has something to do with the dnd plugin we use.

Angelo

On Oct 6, 2010, at 8:45 PM, Hiranya Jayathilaka wrote:

> Hi Zoe,
> 
> On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 12:06 AM, zoe slattery <zo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>  On 06/10/2010 18:34, Hiranya Jayathilaka wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 3:39 PM, Angelo van der Sijpt
>>> <an...@luminis.eu>  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> Indeed, I created a set of screencasts quite some time ago. You can find
>>>> links to them at http://changelos.com/2009/11/08/apache-ace-visuals/ .
>>> 
>>> Thanks for the reference Angelo. Will try this out and get back if I
>>> run into any issues.
>> 
>> Hi - I followed through Angelo's 'Simple Deployment' video and got up to the
>> point where I could add the three files (servicebased-host.jar etc) as
>> 'Artifacts'. The next step in the video shows creating 'Group's and
>> associating the artifacts with groups. In the current WebUI the 'Group'
>> column is replaced with 'Feature'. I was hoping that this was just a name
>> change - however, although I could create 'Feature's,  the drag and drop
>> which should associate Artifacts with Features does not work for me.
> 
> I'm also stuck at this point. I can add any OSGi bundle into the
> artifact column. I can create new features and distributions in the
> corresponding columns. But the drag-n-drop across different columns
> doesn't seem to do anything. Any help would be much appreciated.
> 
> Thanks,
> Hiranya
> 
> Any
>> suggestions on how to figure out what is not working would be welcome :-)
>> 
>> Zoe
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Hiranya
>>> 
>>>> Angelo
>>>> 
>>>> On Oct 6, 2010, at 12:05 PM, Toni Menzel wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Zoe,
>>>>> 
>>>>> glad to see you + aries people here on ace. ;)
>>>>> The log message "Highest remote: null / Highest local: null" was also
>>>>> a little confusing to me, but it just says, that there is nothing to
>>>>> be deployed on the managementagent (old speak: gateway) yet.
>>>>> 
>>>>> About: "The WebUI is there but looks a little odd"
>>>>> Its a rush GWT port of a commercial UI that has not been open sourced
>>>>> by luminis. Currently, Marcel is doing a Vaadlin Version instead -
>>>>> heard its much more straightforward to develop such a ui than raw GWT.
>>>>> So, better we'll wait for him here. But i agree the current webUI is
>>>>> not the best thing since sliced bread.
>>>>> But it works, i believe there was a screencast on how to use it by
>>>>> Angelo ? Not sure. If not we should make one. Otherwise its quite hard
>>>>> to get started.
>>>>> As a quick hint: you need to add bundles the repository by copying
>>>>> them to the upload folder (not sure, its called repository i guess in
>>>>> the server folder). They should appear on the left column in the ui.
>>>>> Also, when running one or more gateways, they should appear in the UI,
>>>>> too.
>>>>> Now you can bring the "two" together by wiring them: create a group,
>>>>> drag the artifact (left) on the group, and so on. So its drag an drop
>>>>> based. Coloring indicate "wired" pieces.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Bottomline:
>>>>> Your builds are fine, just the UI needs assistance and/or a replacement.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Toni
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 11:31 AM, zoe slattery<zo...@gmail.com>
>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  On 05/10/2010 22:59, Hiranya Jayathilaka wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi Devs,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> As I understand the two main tutorials available on the website
>>>>>>> (Getting started with file based server, Getting started with Web UI
>>>>>>> server) deal with the legacy module in the Ace trunk. So I guess I
>>>>>>> have to build the legacy module using Ant to follow these articles. Am
>>>>>>> I correct? Are there any similar documents for the Maven based build?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I have exactly the same problem. I followed the build instructions for
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> maven build, got the server running and the gateway (albeit with a
>>>>>> distracting info message every second(?) "Highest remote: null /
>>>>>> Highest
>>>>>> local: null") - did not get any further than this so far. The WebUI is
>>>>>> there
>>>>>> but looks a little odd - I'd like to get the command line instructions
>>>>>> working, any pointers would be much appreciated.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Zoė
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> Toni Menzel || http://okidokiteam.com
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Hiranya Jayathilaka
> Senior Software Engineer;
> WSO2 Inc.;  http://wso2.org
> E-mail: hiranya@wso2.com;  Mobile: +94 77 633 3491
> Blog: http://techfeast-hiranya.blogspot.com


Re: Running Samples with the Maven Based Build

Posted by Hiranya Jayathilaka <hi...@gmail.com>.
Hi Zoe,

On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 12:06 AM, zoe slattery <zo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>  On 06/10/2010 18:34, Hiranya Jayathilaka wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 3:39 PM, Angelo van der Sijpt
>> <an...@luminis.eu>  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Indeed, I created a set of screencasts quite some time ago. You can find
>>> links to them at http://changelos.com/2009/11/08/apache-ace-visuals/ .
>>
>> Thanks for the reference Angelo. Will try this out and get back if I
>> run into any issues.
>
> Hi - I followed through Angelo's 'Simple Deployment' video and got up to the
> point where I could add the three files (servicebased-host.jar etc) as
> 'Artifacts'. The next step in the video shows creating 'Group's and
> associating the artifacts with groups. In the current WebUI the 'Group'
> column is replaced with 'Feature'. I was hoping that this was just a name
> change - however, although I could create 'Feature's,  the drag and drop
> which should associate Artifacts with Features does not work for me.

I'm also stuck at this point. I can add any OSGi bundle into the
artifact column. I can create new features and distributions in the
corresponding columns. But the drag-n-drop across different columns
doesn't seem to do anything. Any help would be much appreciated.

Thanks,
Hiranya

Any
> suggestions on how to figure out what is not working would be welcome :-)
>
> Zoe
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Hiranya
>>
>>> Angelo
>>>
>>> On Oct 6, 2010, at 12:05 PM, Toni Menzel wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Zoe,
>>>>
>>>> glad to see you + aries people here on ace. ;)
>>>> The log message "Highest remote: null / Highest local: null" was also
>>>> a little confusing to me, but it just says, that there is nothing to
>>>> be deployed on the managementagent (old speak: gateway) yet.
>>>>
>>>> About: "The WebUI is there but looks a little odd"
>>>> Its a rush GWT port of a commercial UI that has not been open sourced
>>>> by luminis. Currently, Marcel is doing a Vaadlin Version instead -
>>>> heard its much more straightforward to develop such a ui than raw GWT.
>>>> So, better we'll wait for him here. But i agree the current webUI is
>>>> not the best thing since sliced bread.
>>>> But it works, i believe there was a screencast on how to use it by
>>>> Angelo ? Not sure. If not we should make one. Otherwise its quite hard
>>>> to get started.
>>>> As a quick hint: you need to add bundles the repository by copying
>>>> them to the upload folder (not sure, its called repository i guess in
>>>> the server folder). They should appear on the left column in the ui.
>>>> Also, when running one or more gateways, they should appear in the UI,
>>>> too.
>>>> Now you can bring the "two" together by wiring them: create a group,
>>>> drag the artifact (left) on the group, and so on. So its drag an drop
>>>> based. Coloring indicate "wired" pieces.
>>>>
>>>> Bottomline:
>>>> Your builds are fine, just the UI needs assistance and/or a replacement.
>>>>
>>>> Toni
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 11:31 AM, zoe slattery<zo...@gmail.com>
>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  On 05/10/2010 22:59, Hiranya Jayathilaka wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Devs,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As I understand the two main tutorials available on the website
>>>>>> (Getting started with file based server, Getting started with Web UI
>>>>>> server) deal with the legacy module in the Ace trunk. So I guess I
>>>>>> have to build the legacy module using Ant to follow these articles. Am
>>>>>> I correct? Are there any similar documents for the Maven based build?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>> I have exactly the same problem. I followed the build instructions for
>>>>> the
>>>>> maven build, got the server running and the gateway (albeit with a
>>>>> distracting info message every second(?) "Highest remote: null /
>>>>> Highest
>>>>> local: null") - did not get any further than this so far. The WebUI is
>>>>> there
>>>>> but looks a little odd - I'd like to get the command line instructions
>>>>> working, any pointers would be much appreciated.
>>>>>
>>>>> Zoė
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Toni Menzel || http://okidokiteam.com
>>>
>>
>>
>
>



-- 
Hiranya Jayathilaka
Senior Software Engineer;
WSO2 Inc.;  http://wso2.org
E-mail: hiranya@wso2.com;  Mobile: +94 77 633 3491
Blog: http://techfeast-hiranya.blogspot.com

Re: Running Samples with the Maven Based Build

Posted by zoe slattery <zo...@gmail.com>.
  On 06/10/2010 18:34, Hiranya Jayathilaka wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 3:39 PM, Angelo van der Sijpt
> <an...@luminis.eu>  wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Indeed, I created a set of screencasts quite some time ago. You can find links to them at http://changelos.com/2009/11/08/apache-ace-visuals/ .
>
> Thanks for the reference Angelo. Will try this out and get back if I
> run into any issues.
Hi - I followed through Angelo's 'Simple Deployment' video and got up to 
the point where I could add the three files (servicebased-host.jar etc) 
as 'Artifacts'. The next step in the video shows creating 'Group's and 
associating the artifacts with groups. In the current WebUI the 'Group' 
column is replaced with 'Feature'. I was hoping that this was just a 
name change - however, although I could create 'Feature's,  the drag and 
drop which should associate Artifacts with Features does not work for 
me. Any suggestions on how to figure out what is not working would be 
welcome :-)

Zoe
> Thanks,
> Hiranya
>
>> Angelo
>>
>> On Oct 6, 2010, at 12:05 PM, Toni Menzel wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Zoe,
>>>
>>> glad to see you + aries people here on ace. ;)
>>> The log message "Highest remote: null / Highest local: null" was also
>>> a little confusing to me, but it just says, that there is nothing to
>>> be deployed on the managementagent (old speak: gateway) yet.
>>>
>>> About: "The WebUI is there but looks a little odd"
>>> Its a rush GWT port of a commercial UI that has not been open sourced
>>> by luminis. Currently, Marcel is doing a Vaadlin Version instead -
>>> heard its much more straightforward to develop such a ui than raw GWT.
>>> So, better we'll wait for him here. But i agree the current webUI is
>>> not the best thing since sliced bread.
>>> But it works, i believe there was a screencast on how to use it by
>>> Angelo ? Not sure. If not we should make one. Otherwise its quite hard
>>> to get started.
>>> As a quick hint: you need to add bundles the repository by copying
>>> them to the upload folder (not sure, its called repository i guess in
>>> the server folder). They should appear on the left column in the ui.
>>> Also, when running one or more gateways, they should appear in the UI, too.
>>> Now you can bring the "two" together by wiring them: create a group,
>>> drag the artifact (left) on the group, and so on. So its drag an drop
>>> based. Coloring indicate "wired" pieces.
>>>
>>> Bottomline:
>>> Your builds are fine, just the UI needs assistance and/or a replacement.
>>>
>>> Toni
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 11:31 AM, zoe slattery<zo...@gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>>   On 05/10/2010 22:59, Hiranya Jayathilaka wrote:
>>>>> Hi Devs,
>>>>>
>>>>> As I understand the two main tutorials available on the website
>>>>> (Getting started with file based server, Getting started with Web UI
>>>>> server) deal with the legacy module in the Ace trunk. So I guess I
>>>>> have to build the legacy module using Ant to follow these articles. Am
>>>>> I correct? Are there any similar documents for the Maven based build?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>> I have exactly the same problem. I followed the build instructions for the
>>>> maven build, got the server running and the gateway (albeit with a
>>>> distracting info message every second(?) "Highest remote: null / Highest
>>>> local: null") - did not get any further than this so far. The WebUI is there
>>>> but looks a little odd - I'd like to get the command line instructions
>>>> working, any pointers would be much appreciated.
>>>>
>>>> Zoė
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Toni Menzel || http://okidokiteam.com
>>
>
>


Re: Running Samples with the Maven Based Build

Posted by Hiranya Jayathilaka <hi...@gmail.com>.
On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 3:39 PM, Angelo van der Sijpt
<an...@luminis.eu> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Indeed, I created a set of screencasts quite some time ago. You can find links to them at http://changelos.com/2009/11/08/apache-ace-visuals/ .


Thanks for the reference Angelo. Will try this out and get back if I
run into any issues.

Thanks,
Hiranya

>
> Angelo
>
> On Oct 6, 2010, at 12:05 PM, Toni Menzel wrote:
>
>> Hi Zoe,
>>
>> glad to see you + aries people here on ace. ;)
>> The log message "Highest remote: null / Highest local: null" was also
>> a little confusing to me, but it just says, that there is nothing to
>> be deployed on the managementagent (old speak: gateway) yet.
>>
>> About: "The WebUI is there but looks a little odd"
>> Its a rush GWT port of a commercial UI that has not been open sourced
>> by luminis. Currently, Marcel is doing a Vaadlin Version instead -
>> heard its much more straightforward to develop such a ui than raw GWT.
>> So, better we'll wait for him here. But i agree the current webUI is
>> not the best thing since sliced bread.
>> But it works, i believe there was a screencast on how to use it by
>> Angelo ? Not sure. If not we should make one. Otherwise its quite hard
>> to get started.
>> As a quick hint: you need to add bundles the repository by copying
>> them to the upload folder (not sure, its called repository i guess in
>> the server folder). They should appear on the left column in the ui.
>> Also, when running one or more gateways, they should appear in the UI, too.
>> Now you can bring the "two" together by wiring them: create a group,
>> drag the artifact (left) on the group, and so on. So its drag an drop
>> based. Coloring indicate "wired" pieces.
>>
>> Bottomline:
>> Your builds are fine, just the UI needs assistance and/or a replacement.
>>
>> Toni
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 11:31 AM, zoe slattery <zo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>  On 05/10/2010 22:59, Hiranya Jayathilaka wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Devs,
>>>>
>>>> As I understand the two main tutorials available on the website
>>>> (Getting started with file based server, Getting started with Web UI
>>>> server) deal with the legacy module in the Ace trunk. So I guess I
>>>> have to build the legacy module using Ant to follow these articles. Am
>>>> I correct? Are there any similar documents for the Maven based build?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> I have exactly the same problem. I followed the build instructions for the
>>> maven build, got the server running and the gateway (albeit with a
>>> distracting info message every second(?) "Highest remote: null / Highest
>>> local: null") - did not get any further than this so far. The WebUI is there
>>> but looks a little odd - I'd like to get the command line instructions
>>> working, any pointers would be much appreciated.
>>>
>>> Zoė
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Toni Menzel || http://okidokiteam.com
>
>



-- 
Hiranya Jayathilaka
Senior Software Engineer;
WSO2 Inc.;  http://wso2.org
E-mail: hiranya@wso2.com;  Mobile: +94 77 633 3491
Blog: http://techfeast-hiranya.blogspot.com

Re: Running Samples with the Maven Based Build

Posted by zoe slattery <zo...@gmail.com>.
  On 06/10/2010 11:09, Angelo van der Sijpt wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Indeed, I created a set of screencasts quite some time ago. You can find links to them at http://changelos.com/2009/11/08/apache-ace-visuals/ .
Excellent - very helpful - thanks.
> Angelo
>
> On Oct 6, 2010, at 12:05 PM, Toni Menzel wrote:
>
>> Hi Zoe,
>>
>> glad to see you + aries people here on ace. ;)
>> The log message "Highest remote: null / Highest local: null" was also
>> a little confusing to me, but it just says, that there is nothing to
>> be deployed on the managementagent (old speak: gateway) yet.
>>
>> About: "The WebUI is there but looks a little odd"
>> Its a rush GWT port of a commercial UI that has not been open sourced
>> by luminis. Currently, Marcel is doing a Vaadlin Version instead -
>> heard its much more straightforward to develop such a ui than raw GWT.
>> So, better we'll wait for him here. But i agree the current webUI is
>> not the best thing since sliced bread.
>> But it works, i believe there was a screencast on how to use it by
>> Angelo ? Not sure. If not we should make one. Otherwise its quite hard
>> to get started.
>> As a quick hint: you need to add bundles the repository by copying
>> them to the upload folder (not sure, its called repository i guess in
>> the server folder). They should appear on the left column in the ui.
>> Also, when running one or more gateways, they should appear in the UI, too.
>> Now you can bring the "two" together by wiring them: create a group,
>> drag the artifact (left) on the group, and so on. So its drag an drop
>> based. Coloring indicate "wired" pieces.
>>
>> Bottomline:
>> Your builds are fine, just the UI needs assistance and/or a replacement.
>>
>> Toni
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 11:31 AM, zoe slattery<zo...@gmail.com>  wrote:
>>>   On 05/10/2010 22:59, Hiranya Jayathilaka wrote:
>>>> Hi Devs,
>>>>
>>>> As I understand the two main tutorials available on the website
>>>> (Getting started with file based server, Getting started with Web UI
>>>> server) deal with the legacy module in the Ace trunk. So I guess I
>>>> have to build the legacy module using Ant to follow these articles. Am
>>>> I correct? Are there any similar documents for the Maven based build?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>> I have exactly the same problem. I followed the build instructions for the
>>> maven build, got the server running and the gateway (albeit with a
>>> distracting info message every second(?) "Highest remote: null / Highest
>>> local: null") - did not get any further than this so far. The WebUI is there
>>> but looks a little odd - I'd like to get the command line instructions
>>> working, any pointers would be much appreciated.
>>>
>>> Zoė
>>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Toni Menzel || http://okidokiteam.com
>


Re: Running Samples with the Maven Based Build

Posted by Angelo van der Sijpt <an...@luminis.eu>.
Hi,

Indeed, I created a set of screencasts quite some time ago. You can find links to them at http://changelos.com/2009/11/08/apache-ace-visuals/ .

Angelo

On Oct 6, 2010, at 12:05 PM, Toni Menzel wrote:

> Hi Zoe,
> 
> glad to see you + aries people here on ace. ;)
> The log message "Highest remote: null / Highest local: null" was also
> a little confusing to me, but it just says, that there is nothing to
> be deployed on the managementagent (old speak: gateway) yet.
> 
> About: "The WebUI is there but looks a little odd"
> Its a rush GWT port of a commercial UI that has not been open sourced
> by luminis. Currently, Marcel is doing a Vaadlin Version instead -
> heard its much more straightforward to develop such a ui than raw GWT.
> So, better we'll wait for him here. But i agree the current webUI is
> not the best thing since sliced bread.
> But it works, i believe there was a screencast on how to use it by
> Angelo ? Not sure. If not we should make one. Otherwise its quite hard
> to get started.
> As a quick hint: you need to add bundles the repository by copying
> them to the upload folder (not sure, its called repository i guess in
> the server folder). They should appear on the left column in the ui.
> Also, when running one or more gateways, they should appear in the UI, too.
> Now you can bring the "two" together by wiring them: create a group,
> drag the artifact (left) on the group, and so on. So its drag an drop
> based. Coloring indicate "wired" pieces.
> 
> Bottomline:
> Your builds are fine, just the UI needs assistance and/or a replacement.
> 
> Toni
> 
> 
> On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 11:31 AM, zoe slattery <zo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>  On 05/10/2010 22:59, Hiranya Jayathilaka wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Devs,
>>> 
>>> As I understand the two main tutorials available on the website
>>> (Getting started with file based server, Getting started with Web UI
>>> server) deal with the legacy module in the Ace trunk. So I guess I
>>> have to build the legacy module using Ant to follow these articles. Am
>>> I correct? Are there any similar documents for the Maven based build?
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>> 
>> I have exactly the same problem. I followed the build instructions for the
>> maven build, got the server running and the gateway (albeit with a
>> distracting info message every second(?) "Highest remote: null / Highest
>> local: null") - did not get any further than this so far. The WebUI is there
>> but looks a little odd - I'd like to get the command line instructions
>> working, any pointers would be much appreciated.
>> 
>> Zoė
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Toni Menzel || http://okidokiteam.com


Re: Running Samples with the Maven Based Build

Posted by zoe slattery <zo...@gmail.com>.
  On 06/10/2010 11:05, Toni Menzel wrote:
> Hi Zoe,
>
> glad to see you + aries people here on ace. ;)
I have an ulterior motive :-) I'm talking at ApacheCon - its a beginners 
OSGi talk on interesting OSGi projects and what they are good for. So 
I'm testing the 'getting started' instructions for a whole bunch of 
projects. I'd like to say a couple of things about ACE - but I feel I 
need to be able to do a very simple command line based deployment at the 
minimum.
> The log message "Highest remote: null / Highest local: null" was also
> a little confusing to me, but it just says, that there is nothing to
> be deployed on the managementagent (old speak: gateway) yet.
That's useful thanks. There are so many of those messages that I never 
actually get the console prompt. Is there a way to turn them off?
> About: "The WebUI is there but looks a little odd"
> Its a rush GWT port of a commercial UI that has not been open sourced
> by luminis. Currently, Marcel is doing a Vaadlin Version instead -
> heard its much more straightforward to develop such a ui than raw GWT.
> So, better we'll wait for him here. But i agree the current webUI is
> not the best thing since sliced bread.
> But it works, i believe there was a screencast on how to use it by
> Angelo ? Not sure.
I didn't find one - I agree it would be really helpful. Although - I'd 
be more than happy to see something working from a command line :-/
>   If not we should make one. Otherwise its quite hard
> to get started.
> As a quick hint: you need to add bundles the repository by copying
> them to the upload folder (not sure, its called repository i guess in
> the server folder). They should appear on the left column in the ui.
> Also, when running one or more gateways, they should appear in the UI, too.
> Now you can bring the "two" together by wiring them: create a group,
> drag the artifact (left) on the group, and so on. So its drag an drop
> based. Coloring indicate "wired" pieces.
I'll have more of a play this afternoon....will let you know where I get to.
> Bottomline:
> Your builds are fine, just the UI needs assistance and/or a replacement.
Right - they *look* fine as far as I can tell - but I do get an error 
from the server build:

"ERROR: The data file path must be relative, not absolute."

That may be OK but having something called 'ERROR' is always a bit 
disconcerting for a new user :-) Is it something I have done wrong?

Zoe
> Toni
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 11:31 AM, zoe slattery<zo...@gmail.com>  wrote:
>>   On 05/10/2010 22:59, Hiranya Jayathilaka wrote:
>>> Hi Devs,
>>>
>>> As I understand the two main tutorials available on the website
>>> (Getting started with file based server, Getting started with Web UI
>>> server) deal with the legacy module in the Ace trunk. So I guess I
>>> have to build the legacy module using Ant to follow these articles. Am
>>> I correct? Are there any similar documents for the Maven based build?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>> I have exactly the same problem. I followed the build instructions for the
>> maven build, got the server running and the gateway (albeit with a
>> distracting info message every second(?) "Highest remote: null / Highest
>> local: null") - did not get any further than this so far. The WebUI is there
>> but looks a little odd - I'd like to get the command line instructions
>> working, any pointers would be much appreciated.
>>
>> Zoė
>>
>
>


Re: Running Samples with the Maven Based Build

Posted by Toni Menzel <to...@okidokiteam.com>.
Hi Zoe,

glad to see you + aries people here on ace. ;)
The log message "Highest remote: null / Highest local: null" was also
a little confusing to me, but it just says, that there is nothing to
be deployed on the managementagent (old speak: gateway) yet.

About: "The WebUI is there but looks a little odd"
Its a rush GWT port of a commercial UI that has not been open sourced
by luminis. Currently, Marcel is doing a Vaadlin Version instead -
heard its much more straightforward to develop such a ui than raw GWT.
So, better we'll wait for him here. But i agree the current webUI is
not the best thing since sliced bread.
But it works, i believe there was a screencast on how to use it by
Angelo ? Not sure. If not we should make one. Otherwise its quite hard
to get started.
As a quick hint: you need to add bundles the repository by copying
them to the upload folder (not sure, its called repository i guess in
the server folder). They should appear on the left column in the ui.
Also, when running one or more gateways, they should appear in the UI, too.
Now you can bring the "two" together by wiring them: create a group,
drag the artifact (left) on the group, and so on. So its drag an drop
based. Coloring indicate "wired" pieces.

Bottomline:
Your builds are fine, just the UI needs assistance and/or a replacement.

Toni


On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 11:31 AM, zoe slattery <zo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>  On 05/10/2010 22:59, Hiranya Jayathilaka wrote:
>>
>> Hi Devs,
>>
>> As I understand the two main tutorials available on the website
>> (Getting started with file based server, Getting started with Web UI
>> server) deal with the legacy module in the Ace trunk. So I guess I
>> have to build the legacy module using Ant to follow these articles. Am
>> I correct? Are there any similar documents for the Maven based build?
>>
>> Thanks
>
> I have exactly the same problem. I followed the build instructions for the
> maven build, got the server running and the gateway (albeit with a
> distracting info message every second(?) "Highest remote: null / Highest
> local: null") - did not get any further than this so far. The WebUI is there
> but looks a little odd - I'd like to get the command line instructions
> working, any pointers would be much appreciated.
>
> Zoė
>



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Re: Running Samples with the Maven Based Build

Posted by zoe slattery <zo...@gmail.com>.
  On 05/10/2010 22:59, Hiranya Jayathilaka wrote:
> Hi Devs,
>
> As I understand the two main tutorials available on the website
> (Getting started with file based server, Getting started with Web UI
> server) deal with the legacy module in the Ace trunk. So I guess I
> have to build the legacy module using Ant to follow these articles. Am
> I correct? Are there any similar documents for the Maven based build?
>
> Thanks
I have exactly the same problem. I followed the build instructions for 
the maven build, got the server running and the gateway (albeit with a 
distracting info message every second(?) "Highest remote: null / Highest 
local: null") - did not get any further than this so far. The WebUI is 
there but looks a little odd - I'd like to get the command line 
instructions working, any pointers would be much appreciated.

Zoë