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Posted to dev@stanbol.apache.org by Fabian Christ <fc...@apache.org> on 2015/06/14 22:03:09 UTC
Report time again. Query for input
Hi Stanbolers,
it is report time again and we have to submit for the June report until
June 17th.
Please, provide any input on what has happened in the project in the past
three months. I will draft a report then.
Best
Fabian
Re: Report time again. Query for input
Posted by Rafa Haro <rh...@apache.org>.
Ok, we already discussed about this but, the release doesn't need to be an
executable, we can a provide a package and in that package there could be a
script for downloading non license compatible resources.
Cheers,
Rafa
On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 12:46 PM, Rupert Westenthaler <
rupert.westenthaler@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Rafa, all
>
> OK than start with a 1.0.0 and 0.12.1 release. I can help with the
> code base, but AFAIK only Fabian and Reto know all the necessary steps
> to forge a release.
>
> If we want to have a binary release we need to create a new launcher
> that excludes all data bundles included none ASL compatible things -
> and yes - this will exclude all the OpenNLP models ...
>
> best
> Rupert
>
> On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 12:41 PM, Rafa Haro <rh...@apache.org> wrote:
> > Hi Rupert,
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 12:33 PM, Rupert Westenthaler <
> > rupert.westenthaler@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> I like the Idea of creating a roadmap. @Rafa would you be able to
> >> drive this process.
> >>
> >
> > Sure, no problem. The very first thing we need to do is to close release
> > 1.0. For that, probably Rupert is the most indicated person to say which
> > current issues must be included. I wouldn't add any other functionality
> > until releasing this version. We have to decide also how is going to be
> > released in terms of binaries resolving all the issues related with third
> > party resources like OpenNLP models.
> >
> > After that, a brainstorming should start for next releases. First, which
> > components are going to be deprecated. For the rest, we setup a roadmap
> > around desired functionality or feedback from the users. I can take a
> look
> > to Jira and harvest those tickets that are interesting for the future and
> > start closing old and deprecated ones.
> >
> > How that sound?
> >
> >
> >>
> >> I am around until end of Juli, after that I am on vacation for ~1
> >> month. If possible I would like to have this sorted out before my
> >> vacation.
> >>
> >> best
> >> Rupert
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 2:00 PM, Rafa Haro <rh...@apache.org> wrote:
> >> > Hi Fabian,
> >> >
> >> > On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 1:34 PM, Fabian Christ <
> >> christ.fabian@googlemail.com
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Hi,
> >> >>
> >> >> yes we have indeed the situation where we do not have a project owner
> >> >> who is doing some oversight of the project. I am the current chair of
> >> >> the project but also do not find the time to manage the project. I
> >> >> would have resigned as a chair if there was a person who would like
> to
> >> >> be in charge and become the shepherd of the project.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > Maybe it is easier for you and everyone after the reorganization.
> Most of
> >> > us have very limited time for Stanbol, but this might could change if
> we
> >> > are able to catch-up everything, get a clean release with the current
> >> > codebase, build a new roadmap with the feedback of everyone that is
> using
> >> > Stanbol in regular basis and wants to join the discussion.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> Anything that addresses this issue is +1 from me. If there is someone
> >> >> standing up and would like to clean up - go for it.
> >> >>
> >> >> In my opinion we should shrink the code base a lot and remove
> anything
> >> >> that was not touched for two years. Same for the JIRA issues. Just
> >> >> keep a small Stanbol kernel around the enhancer that is manageable.
> We
> >> >> started Stanbol with a much larger team during a research project but
> >> >> today we have to focus. And Rafa is right that this should be part of
> >> >> roadmap planning.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > +1. I can help on this. I can also help with some ideas for the future
> >> and
> >> > start discussions around them.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> Regarding a chat or meeting: We have to discuss this in the open on
> >> >> the mailing list. We have the credo that anything that was not
> >> >> discussed on the ML did not happen. So, just discuss the matters here
> >> >> and only move to chat or whatever if really necessary.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > ok. Let's see if we can bring together a great number of actual
> >> committers
> >> > for this.
> >> >
> >> > Cheers,
> >> > Rafa
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> Best
> >> >> - Fabian
> >> >>
> >> >> 2015-06-16 14:35 GMT+02:00 Dileepa Jayakody <
> dileepajayakody@gmail.com
> >> >:
> >> >> > +1 Rafa. I too would like to join the discussion.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 5:19 PM, Rafa Haro <rh...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> Hi Fabian, Rupert,
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> I have been taking a look to the Stanbol Jira and certainly there
> is
> >> a
> >> >> >> great mess there. For example, there are a lot of issues opened
> more
> >> >> than
> >> >> >> one or two years ago. What do you think guys about having a
> session
> >> for
> >> >> >> properly organizing this?. We can meet at the IRC channel or
> wherever
> >> >> you
> >> >> >> consider and talk about releases, expectations, roadmap. I have
> the
> >> >> >> impression that there is a complete lack of planning for the
> >> project. I
> >> >> >> know that I'm not probably the most indicated person for saying
> this
> >> >> >> because I'm far away of being a daily contributor. But maybe we
> can
> >> >> >> motivate committers again by building a great backlog and planning
> >> >> properly
> >> >> >> where the project should go. I have been using Stanbol lately for
> two
> >> >> real
> >> >> >> uses cases and I could share with you my impressions and provide
> >> >> feedback
> >> >> >> as functionality that would have been nice to have while
> developing
> >> the
> >> >> >> projects.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> It would be great also to know how other Apache projects build
> their
> >> >> >> roadmap. Maybe we find a mirror to look at.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Cheers,
> >> >> >> Rafa
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 11:22 AM, Rupert Westenthaler <
> >> >> >> rupert.westenthaler@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 8:14 AM, Fabian Christ <
> fchrist@apache.org
> >> >
> >> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >> > > here is my draft for the report. Anything to add?
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Hi Fabian
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Nothing that is so important for adding to the Report.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 8:14 AM, Fabian Christ <
> fchrist@apache.org
> >> >
> >> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >> > > The project is doing well but on a slow level. Main issue at
> the
> >> >> moment
> >> >> >> > > may be that there is no one who is cutting releases from time
> to
> >> >> time.
> >> >> >> > > The last release was cut one year ago. The project is aware of
> >> this
> >> >> >> > > issue and is working on it.
> >> >> >> > >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Thats very true!
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Slow Progress ...
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > * I updated most of the dependencies STANBOL-1419 (for both
> 0.12.1
> >> and
> >> >> >> > trunk). So we are again using the newest Apache Sling Launcher,
> >> Apache
> >> >> >> > Felix. New Apache Sling logging with lock back support, ...)
> >> >> >> > * Added support for ixa-nerc - Named Entity Recognition models.
> >> They
> >> >> >> > provide much better quality models for OpenNLP. Languages:
> English,
> >> >> >> > Spanish, German, Italian and Dutch.
> >> >> >> > * I am also working together with Alfonso Noriega on adding
> support
> >> >> >> > for the Stanford NLP sentiment annotation. For Stanbol this will
> >> mean
> >> >> >> > that the Restful NLP engine will support Sentiment Annotations.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > An other issue are questions about the Contenthub and CMS
> Adatper
> >> that
> >> >> >> > we can not really handle as the original developers are no
> longer
> >> >> >> > active. During the dependency upgrades (STANBOL-1419) I noticed
> >> that
> >> >> >> > those components do not have any Integration tests. So while I
> >> fixed
> >> >> >> > all related module level issues (as reported by the unit tests)
> I
> >> was
> >> >> >> > unable to ensure that everything was working as intended at
> runtime
> >> >> >> > (as for all other components that do have integration tests).
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > About Releases:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > I am happy to help with releases. Best would be if I you Fabian
> >> could
> >> >> >> > show me everything I need to know to create releases by my own
> in
> >> the
> >> >> >> > future.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > best
> >> >> >> > Rupert
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > --
> >> >> >> > | Rupert Westenthaler rupert.westenthaler@gmail.com
> >> >> >> > | Bodenlehenstraße 11
> >> ++43-699-11108907
> >> >> >> > | A-5500 Bischofshofen
> >> >> >> > | REDLINK.CO
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> ..........................................................................
> >> >> >> > | http://redlink.co/
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Fabian
> >> >> http://twitter.com/fctwitt
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> | Rupert Westenthaler rupert.westenthaler@gmail.com
> >> | Bodenlehenstraße 11 ++43-699-11108907
> >> | A-5500 Bischofshofen
> >> | REDLINK.CO
> >>
> ..........................................................................
> >> | http://redlink.co/
> >>
>
>
>
> --
> | Rupert Westenthaler rupert.westenthaler@gmail.com
> | Bodenlehenstraße 11 ++43-699-11108907
> | A-5500 Bischofshofen
> | REDLINK.CO
> ..........................................................................
> | http://redlink.co/
>
Re: Report time again. Query for input
Posted by Rupert Westenthaler <ru...@gmail.com>.
Hi Rafa, all
OK than start with a 1.0.0 and 0.12.1 release. I can help with the
code base, but AFAIK only Fabian and Reto know all the necessary steps
to forge a release.
If we want to have a binary release we need to create a new launcher
that excludes all data bundles included none ASL compatible things -
and yes - this will exclude all the OpenNLP models ...
best
Rupert
On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 12:41 PM, Rafa Haro <rh...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi Rupert,
>
> On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 12:33 PM, Rupert Westenthaler <
> rupert.westenthaler@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I like the Idea of creating a roadmap. @Rafa would you be able to
>> drive this process.
>>
>
> Sure, no problem. The very first thing we need to do is to close release
> 1.0. For that, probably Rupert is the most indicated person to say which
> current issues must be included. I wouldn't add any other functionality
> until releasing this version. We have to decide also how is going to be
> released in terms of binaries resolving all the issues related with third
> party resources like OpenNLP models.
>
> After that, a brainstorming should start for next releases. First, which
> components are going to be deprecated. For the rest, we setup a roadmap
> around desired functionality or feedback from the users. I can take a look
> to Jira and harvest those tickets that are interesting for the future and
> start closing old and deprecated ones.
>
> How that sound?
>
>
>>
>> I am around until end of Juli, after that I am on vacation for ~1
>> month. If possible I would like to have this sorted out before my
>> vacation.
>>
>> best
>> Rupert
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 2:00 PM, Rafa Haro <rh...@apache.org> wrote:
>> > Hi Fabian,
>> >
>> > On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 1:34 PM, Fabian Christ <
>> christ.fabian@googlemail.com
>> >> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> yes we have indeed the situation where we do not have a project owner
>> >> who is doing some oversight of the project. I am the current chair of
>> >> the project but also do not find the time to manage the project. I
>> >> would have resigned as a chair if there was a person who would like to
>> >> be in charge and become the shepherd of the project.
>> >>
>> >
>> > Maybe it is easier for you and everyone after the reorganization. Most of
>> > us have very limited time for Stanbol, but this might could change if we
>> > are able to catch-up everything, get a clean release with the current
>> > codebase, build a new roadmap with the feedback of everyone that is using
>> > Stanbol in regular basis and wants to join the discussion.
>> >
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Anything that addresses this issue is +1 from me. If there is someone
>> >> standing up and would like to clean up - go for it.
>> >>
>> >> In my opinion we should shrink the code base a lot and remove anything
>> >> that was not touched for two years. Same for the JIRA issues. Just
>> >> keep a small Stanbol kernel around the enhancer that is manageable. We
>> >> started Stanbol with a much larger team during a research project but
>> >> today we have to focus. And Rafa is right that this should be part of
>> >> roadmap planning.
>> >>
>> >
>> > +1. I can help on this. I can also help with some ideas for the future
>> and
>> > start discussions around them.
>> >
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Regarding a chat or meeting: We have to discuss this in the open on
>> >> the mailing list. We have the credo that anything that was not
>> >> discussed on the ML did not happen. So, just discuss the matters here
>> >> and only move to chat or whatever if really necessary.
>> >>
>> >
>> > ok. Let's see if we can bring together a great number of actual
>> committers
>> > for this.
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> > Rafa
>> >
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Best
>> >> - Fabian
>> >>
>> >> 2015-06-16 14:35 GMT+02:00 Dileepa Jayakody <dileepajayakody@gmail.com
>> >:
>> >> > +1 Rafa. I too would like to join the discussion.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 5:19 PM, Rafa Haro <rh...@apache.org> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Hi Fabian, Rupert,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I have been taking a look to the Stanbol Jira and certainly there is
>> a
>> >> >> great mess there. For example, there are a lot of issues opened more
>> >> than
>> >> >> one or two years ago. What do you think guys about having a session
>> for
>> >> >> properly organizing this?. We can meet at the IRC channel or wherever
>> >> you
>> >> >> consider and talk about releases, expectations, roadmap. I have the
>> >> >> impression that there is a complete lack of planning for the
>> project. I
>> >> >> know that I'm not probably the most indicated person for saying this
>> >> >> because I'm far away of being a daily contributor. But maybe we can
>> >> >> motivate committers again by building a great backlog and planning
>> >> properly
>> >> >> where the project should go. I have been using Stanbol lately for two
>> >> real
>> >> >> uses cases and I could share with you my impressions and provide
>> >> feedback
>> >> >> as functionality that would have been nice to have while developing
>> the
>> >> >> projects.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> It would be great also to know how other Apache projects build their
>> >> >> roadmap. Maybe we find a mirror to look at.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Cheers,
>> >> >> Rafa
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 11:22 AM, Rupert Westenthaler <
>> >> >> rupert.westenthaler@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 8:14 AM, Fabian Christ <fchrist@apache.org
>> >
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> > > here is my draft for the report. Anything to add?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Hi Fabian
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Nothing that is so important for adding to the Report.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 8:14 AM, Fabian Christ <fchrist@apache.org
>> >
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >> > > The project is doing well but on a slow level. Main issue at the
>> >> moment
>> >> >> > > may be that there is no one who is cutting releases from time to
>> >> time.
>> >> >> > > The last release was cut one year ago. The project is aware of
>> this
>> >> >> > > issue and is working on it.
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Thats very true!
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Slow Progress ...
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > * I updated most of the dependencies STANBOL-1419 (for both 0.12.1
>> and
>> >> >> > trunk). So we are again using the newest Apache Sling Launcher,
>> Apache
>> >> >> > Felix. New Apache Sling logging with lock back support, ...)
>> >> >> > * Added support for ixa-nerc - Named Entity Recognition models.
>> They
>> >> >> > provide much better quality models for OpenNLP. Languages: English,
>> >> >> > Spanish, German, Italian and Dutch.
>> >> >> > * I am also working together with Alfonso Noriega on adding support
>> >> >> > for the Stanford NLP sentiment annotation. For Stanbol this will
>> mean
>> >> >> > that the Restful NLP engine will support Sentiment Annotations.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > An other issue are questions about the Contenthub and CMS Adatper
>> that
>> >> >> > we can not really handle as the original developers are no longer
>> >> >> > active. During the dependency upgrades (STANBOL-1419) I noticed
>> that
>> >> >> > those components do not have any Integration tests. So while I
>> fixed
>> >> >> > all related module level issues (as reported by the unit tests) I
>> was
>> >> >> > unable to ensure that everything was working as intended at runtime
>> >> >> > (as for all other components that do have integration tests).
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > About Releases:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I am happy to help with releases. Best would be if I you Fabian
>> could
>> >> >> > show me everything I need to know to create releases by my own in
>> the
>> >> >> > future.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > best
>> >> >> > Rupert
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > --
>> >> >> > | Rupert Westenthaler rupert.westenthaler@gmail.com
>> >> >> > | Bodenlehenstraße 11
>> ++43-699-11108907
>> >> >> > | A-5500 Bischofshofen
>> >> >> > | REDLINK.CO
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> ..........................................................................
>> >> >> > | http://redlink.co/
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Fabian
>> >> http://twitter.com/fctwitt
>> >>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> | Rupert Westenthaler rupert.westenthaler@gmail.com
>> | Bodenlehenstraße 11 ++43-699-11108907
>> | A-5500 Bischofshofen
>> | REDLINK.CO
>> ..........................................................................
>> | http://redlink.co/
>>
--
| Rupert Westenthaler rupert.westenthaler@gmail.com
| Bodenlehenstraße 11 ++43-699-11108907
| A-5500 Bischofshofen
| REDLINK.CO ..........................................................................
| http://redlink.co/
Re: Report time again. Query for input
Posted by Rafa Haro <rh...@apache.org>.
Hi Rupert,
On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 12:33 PM, Rupert Westenthaler <
rupert.westenthaler@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I like the Idea of creating a roadmap. @Rafa would you be able to
> drive this process.
>
Sure, no problem. The very first thing we need to do is to close release
1.0. For that, probably Rupert is the most indicated person to say which
current issues must be included. I wouldn't add any other functionality
until releasing this version. We have to decide also how is going to be
released in terms of binaries resolving all the issues related with third
party resources like OpenNLP models.
After that, a brainstorming should start for next releases. First, which
components are going to be deprecated. For the rest, we setup a roadmap
around desired functionality or feedback from the users. I can take a look
to Jira and harvest those tickets that are interesting for the future and
start closing old and deprecated ones.
How that sound?
>
> I am around until end of Juli, after that I am on vacation for ~1
> month. If possible I would like to have this sorted out before my
> vacation.
>
> best
> Rupert
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 2:00 PM, Rafa Haro <rh...@apache.org> wrote:
> > Hi Fabian,
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 1:34 PM, Fabian Christ <
> christ.fabian@googlemail.com
> >> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> yes we have indeed the situation where we do not have a project owner
> >> who is doing some oversight of the project. I am the current chair of
> >> the project but also do not find the time to manage the project. I
> >> would have resigned as a chair if there was a person who would like to
> >> be in charge and become the shepherd of the project.
> >>
> >
> > Maybe it is easier for you and everyone after the reorganization. Most of
> > us have very limited time for Stanbol, but this might could change if we
> > are able to catch-up everything, get a clean release with the current
> > codebase, build a new roadmap with the feedback of everyone that is using
> > Stanbol in regular basis and wants to join the discussion.
> >
> >
> >>
> >> Anything that addresses this issue is +1 from me. If there is someone
> >> standing up and would like to clean up - go for it.
> >>
> >> In my opinion we should shrink the code base a lot and remove anything
> >> that was not touched for two years. Same for the JIRA issues. Just
> >> keep a small Stanbol kernel around the enhancer that is manageable. We
> >> started Stanbol with a much larger team during a research project but
> >> today we have to focus. And Rafa is right that this should be part of
> >> roadmap planning.
> >>
> >
> > +1. I can help on this. I can also help with some ideas for the future
> and
> > start discussions around them.
> >
> >
> >>
> >> Regarding a chat or meeting: We have to discuss this in the open on
> >> the mailing list. We have the credo that anything that was not
> >> discussed on the ML did not happen. So, just discuss the matters here
> >> and only move to chat or whatever if really necessary.
> >>
> >
> > ok. Let's see if we can bring together a great number of actual
> committers
> > for this.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Rafa
> >
> >
> >>
> >> Best
> >> - Fabian
> >>
> >> 2015-06-16 14:35 GMT+02:00 Dileepa Jayakody <dileepajayakody@gmail.com
> >:
> >> > +1 Rafa. I too would like to join the discussion.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 5:19 PM, Rafa Haro <rh...@apache.org> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Hi Fabian, Rupert,
> >> >>
> >> >> I have been taking a look to the Stanbol Jira and certainly there is
> a
> >> >> great mess there. For example, there are a lot of issues opened more
> >> than
> >> >> one or two years ago. What do you think guys about having a session
> for
> >> >> properly organizing this?. We can meet at the IRC channel or wherever
> >> you
> >> >> consider and talk about releases, expectations, roadmap. I have the
> >> >> impression that there is a complete lack of planning for the
> project. I
> >> >> know that I'm not probably the most indicated person for saying this
> >> >> because I'm far away of being a daily contributor. But maybe we can
> >> >> motivate committers again by building a great backlog and planning
> >> properly
> >> >> where the project should go. I have been using Stanbol lately for two
> >> real
> >> >> uses cases and I could share with you my impressions and provide
> >> feedback
> >> >> as functionality that would have been nice to have while developing
> the
> >> >> projects.
> >> >>
> >> >> It would be great also to know how other Apache projects build their
> >> >> roadmap. Maybe we find a mirror to look at.
> >> >>
> >> >> Cheers,
> >> >> Rafa
> >> >>
> >> >> On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 11:22 AM, Rupert Westenthaler <
> >> >> rupert.westenthaler@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 8:14 AM, Fabian Christ <fchrist@apache.org
> >
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> > > here is my draft for the report. Anything to add?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Hi Fabian
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Nothing that is so important for adding to the Report.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 8:14 AM, Fabian Christ <fchrist@apache.org
> >
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> > > The project is doing well but on a slow level. Main issue at the
> >> moment
> >> >> > > may be that there is no one who is cutting releases from time to
> >> time.
> >> >> > > The last release was cut one year ago. The project is aware of
> this
> >> >> > > issue and is working on it.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Thats very true!
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Slow Progress ...
> >> >> >
> >> >> > * I updated most of the dependencies STANBOL-1419 (for both 0.12.1
> and
> >> >> > trunk). So we are again using the newest Apache Sling Launcher,
> Apache
> >> >> > Felix. New Apache Sling logging with lock back support, ...)
> >> >> > * Added support for ixa-nerc - Named Entity Recognition models.
> They
> >> >> > provide much better quality models for OpenNLP. Languages: English,
> >> >> > Spanish, German, Italian and Dutch.
> >> >> > * I am also working together with Alfonso Noriega on adding support
> >> >> > for the Stanford NLP sentiment annotation. For Stanbol this will
> mean
> >> >> > that the Restful NLP engine will support Sentiment Annotations.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > An other issue are questions about the Contenthub and CMS Adatper
> that
> >> >> > we can not really handle as the original developers are no longer
> >> >> > active. During the dependency upgrades (STANBOL-1419) I noticed
> that
> >> >> > those components do not have any Integration tests. So while I
> fixed
> >> >> > all related module level issues (as reported by the unit tests) I
> was
> >> >> > unable to ensure that everything was working as intended at runtime
> >> >> > (as for all other components that do have integration tests).
> >> >> >
> >> >> > About Releases:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I am happy to help with releases. Best would be if I you Fabian
> could
> >> >> > show me everything I need to know to create releases by my own in
> the
> >> >> > future.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > best
> >> >> > Rupert
> >> >> >
> >> >> > --
> >> >> > | Rupert Westenthaler rupert.westenthaler@gmail.com
> >> >> > | Bodenlehenstraße 11
> ++43-699-11108907
> >> >> > | A-5500 Bischofshofen
> >> >> > | REDLINK.CO
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >>
> ..........................................................................
> >> >> > | http://redlink.co/
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Fabian
> >> http://twitter.com/fctwitt
> >>
>
>
>
> --
> | Rupert Westenthaler rupert.westenthaler@gmail.com
> | Bodenlehenstraße 11 ++43-699-11108907
> | A-5500 Bischofshofen
> | REDLINK.CO
> ..........................................................................
> | http://redlink.co/
>
Re: Report time again. Query for input
Posted by Antonio David Perez Morales <ap...@zaizi.com>.
Hi all
I agree with the idea as well. I could help Rafa on this if he needs help
regards
On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 12:33 PM, Rupert Westenthaler <
rupert.westenthaler@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I like the Idea of creating a roadmap. @Rafa would you be able to
> drive this process.
>
> I am around until end of Juli, after that I am on vacation for ~1
> month. If possible I would like to have this sorted out before my
> vacation.
>
> best
> Rupert
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 2:00 PM, Rafa Haro <rh...@apache.org> wrote:
> > Hi Fabian,
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 1:34 PM, Fabian Christ <
> christ.fabian@googlemail.com
> >> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> yes we have indeed the situation where we do not have a project owner
> >> who is doing some oversight of the project. I am the current chair of
> >> the project but also do not find the time to manage the project. I
> >> would have resigned as a chair if there was a person who would like to
> >> be in charge and become the shepherd of the project.
> >>
> >
> > Maybe it is easier for you and everyone after the reorganization. Most of
> > us have very limited time for Stanbol, but this might could change if we
> > are able to catch-up everything, get a clean release with the current
> > codebase, build a new roadmap with the feedback of everyone that is using
> > Stanbol in regular basis and wants to join the discussion.
> >
> >
> >>
> >> Anything that addresses this issue is +1 from me. If there is someone
> >> standing up and would like to clean up - go for it.
> >>
> >> In my opinion we should shrink the code base a lot and remove anything
> >> that was not touched for two years. Same for the JIRA issues. Just
> >> keep a small Stanbol kernel around the enhancer that is manageable. We
> >> started Stanbol with a much larger team during a research project but
> >> today we have to focus. And Rafa is right that this should be part of
> >> roadmap planning.
> >>
> >
> > +1. I can help on this. I can also help with some ideas for the future
> and
> > start discussions around them.
> >
> >
> >>
> >> Regarding a chat or meeting: We have to discuss this in the open on
> >> the mailing list. We have the credo that anything that was not
> >> discussed on the ML did not happen. So, just discuss the matters here
> >> and only move to chat or whatever if really necessary.
> >>
> >
> > ok. Let's see if we can bring together a great number of actual
> committers
> > for this.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Rafa
> >
> >
> >>
> >> Best
> >> - Fabian
> >>
> >> 2015-06-16 14:35 GMT+02:00 Dileepa Jayakody <dileepajayakody@gmail.com
> >:
> >> > +1 Rafa. I too would like to join the discussion.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 5:19 PM, Rafa Haro <rh...@apache.org> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> Hi Fabian, Rupert,
> >> >>
> >> >> I have been taking a look to the Stanbol Jira and certainly there is
> a
> >> >> great mess there. For example, there are a lot of issues opened more
> >> than
> >> >> one or two years ago. What do you think guys about having a session
> for
> >> >> properly organizing this?. We can meet at the IRC channel or wherever
> >> you
> >> >> consider and talk about releases, expectations, roadmap. I have the
> >> >> impression that there is a complete lack of planning for the
> project. I
> >> >> know that I'm not probably the most indicated person for saying this
> >> >> because I'm far away of being a daily contributor. But maybe we can
> >> >> motivate committers again by building a great backlog and planning
> >> properly
> >> >> where the project should go. I have been using Stanbol lately for two
> >> real
> >> >> uses cases and I could share with you my impressions and provide
> >> feedback
> >> >> as functionality that would have been nice to have while developing
> the
> >> >> projects.
> >> >>
> >> >> It would be great also to know how other Apache projects build their
> >> >> roadmap. Maybe we find a mirror to look at.
> >> >>
> >> >> Cheers,
> >> >> Rafa
> >> >>
> >> >> On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 11:22 AM, Rupert Westenthaler <
> >> >> rupert.westenthaler@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 8:14 AM, Fabian Christ <fchrist@apache.org
> >
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> > > here is my draft for the report. Anything to add?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Hi Fabian
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Nothing that is so important for adding to the Report.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 8:14 AM, Fabian Christ <fchrist@apache.org
> >
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> > > The project is doing well but on a slow level. Main issue at the
> >> moment
> >> >> > > may be that there is no one who is cutting releases from time to
> >> time.
> >> >> > > The last release was cut one year ago. The project is aware of
> this
> >> >> > > issue and is working on it.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Thats very true!
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Slow Progress ...
> >> >> >
> >> >> > * I updated most of the dependencies STANBOL-1419 (for both 0.12.1
> and
> >> >> > trunk). So we are again using the newest Apache Sling Launcher,
> Apache
> >> >> > Felix. New Apache Sling logging with lock back support, ...)
> >> >> > * Added support for ixa-nerc - Named Entity Recognition models.
> They
> >> >> > provide much better quality models for OpenNLP. Languages: English,
> >> >> > Spanish, German, Italian and Dutch.
> >> >> > * I am also working together with Alfonso Noriega on adding support
> >> >> > for the Stanford NLP sentiment annotation. For Stanbol this will
> mean
> >> >> > that the Restful NLP engine will support Sentiment Annotations.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > An other issue are questions about the Contenthub and CMS Adatper
> that
> >> >> > we can not really handle as the original developers are no longer
> >> >> > active. During the dependency upgrades (STANBOL-1419) I noticed
> that
> >> >> > those components do not have any Integration tests. So while I
> fixed
> >> >> > all related module level issues (as reported by the unit tests) I
> was
> >> >> > unable to ensure that everything was working as intended at runtime
> >> >> > (as for all other components that do have integration tests).
> >> >> >
> >> >> > About Releases:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I am happy to help with releases. Best would be if I you Fabian
> could
> >> >> > show me everything I need to know to create releases by my own in
> the
> >> >> > future.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > best
> >> >> > Rupert
> >> >> >
> >> >> > --
> >> >> > | Rupert Westenthaler rupert.westenthaler@gmail.com
> >> >> > | Bodenlehenstraße 11
> ++43-699-11108907
> >> >> > | A-5500 Bischofshofen
> >> >> > | REDLINK.CO
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >>
> ..........................................................................
> >> >> > | http://redlink.co/
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Fabian
> >> http://twitter.com/fctwitt
> >>
>
>
>
> --
> | Rupert Westenthaler rupert.westenthaler@gmail.com
> | Bodenlehenstraße 11 ++43-699-11108907
> | A-5500 Bischofshofen
> | REDLINK.CO
> ..........................................................................
> | http://redlink.co/
>
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Re: Report time again. Query for input
Posted by Rupert Westenthaler <ru...@gmail.com>.
Hi all,
I like the Idea of creating a roadmap. @Rafa would you be able to
drive this process.
I am around until end of Juli, after that I am on vacation for ~1
month. If possible I would like to have this sorted out before my
vacation.
best
Rupert
On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 2:00 PM, Rafa Haro <rh...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi Fabian,
>
> On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 1:34 PM, Fabian Christ <christ.fabian@googlemail.com
>> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> yes we have indeed the situation where we do not have a project owner
>> who is doing some oversight of the project. I am the current chair of
>> the project but also do not find the time to manage the project. I
>> would have resigned as a chair if there was a person who would like to
>> be in charge and become the shepherd of the project.
>>
>
> Maybe it is easier for you and everyone after the reorganization. Most of
> us have very limited time for Stanbol, but this might could change if we
> are able to catch-up everything, get a clean release with the current
> codebase, build a new roadmap with the feedback of everyone that is using
> Stanbol in regular basis and wants to join the discussion.
>
>
>>
>> Anything that addresses this issue is +1 from me. If there is someone
>> standing up and would like to clean up - go for it.
>>
>> In my opinion we should shrink the code base a lot and remove anything
>> that was not touched for two years. Same for the JIRA issues. Just
>> keep a small Stanbol kernel around the enhancer that is manageable. We
>> started Stanbol with a much larger team during a research project but
>> today we have to focus. And Rafa is right that this should be part of
>> roadmap planning.
>>
>
> +1. I can help on this. I can also help with some ideas for the future and
> start discussions around them.
>
>
>>
>> Regarding a chat or meeting: We have to discuss this in the open on
>> the mailing list. We have the credo that anything that was not
>> discussed on the ML did not happen. So, just discuss the matters here
>> and only move to chat or whatever if really necessary.
>>
>
> ok. Let's see if we can bring together a great number of actual committers
> for this.
>
> Cheers,
> Rafa
>
>
>>
>> Best
>> - Fabian
>>
>> 2015-06-16 14:35 GMT+02:00 Dileepa Jayakody <di...@gmail.com>:
>> > +1 Rafa. I too would like to join the discussion.
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 5:19 PM, Rafa Haro <rh...@apache.org> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi Fabian, Rupert,
>> >>
>> >> I have been taking a look to the Stanbol Jira and certainly there is a
>> >> great mess there. For example, there are a lot of issues opened more
>> than
>> >> one or two years ago. What do you think guys about having a session for
>> >> properly organizing this?. We can meet at the IRC channel or wherever
>> you
>> >> consider and talk about releases, expectations, roadmap. I have the
>> >> impression that there is a complete lack of planning for the project. I
>> >> know that I'm not probably the most indicated person for saying this
>> >> because I'm far away of being a daily contributor. But maybe we can
>> >> motivate committers again by building a great backlog and planning
>> properly
>> >> where the project should go. I have been using Stanbol lately for two
>> real
>> >> uses cases and I could share with you my impressions and provide
>> feedback
>> >> as functionality that would have been nice to have while developing the
>> >> projects.
>> >>
>> >> It would be great also to know how other Apache projects build their
>> >> roadmap. Maybe we find a mirror to look at.
>> >>
>> >> Cheers,
>> >> Rafa
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 11:22 AM, Rupert Westenthaler <
>> >> rupert.westenthaler@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 8:14 AM, Fabian Christ <fc...@apache.org>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > > here is my draft for the report. Anything to add?
>> >> >
>> >> > Hi Fabian
>> >> >
>> >> > Nothing that is so important for adding to the Report.
>> >> >
>> >> > On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 8:14 AM, Fabian Christ <fc...@apache.org>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > > The project is doing well but on a slow level. Main issue at the
>> moment
>> >> > > may be that there is no one who is cutting releases from time to
>> time.
>> >> > > The last release was cut one year ago. The project is aware of this
>> >> > > issue and is working on it.
>> >> > >
>> >> >
>> >> > Thats very true!
>> >> >
>> >> > Slow Progress ...
>> >> >
>> >> > * I updated most of the dependencies STANBOL-1419 (for both 0.12.1 and
>> >> > trunk). So we are again using the newest Apache Sling Launcher, Apache
>> >> > Felix. New Apache Sling logging with lock back support, ...)
>> >> > * Added support for ixa-nerc - Named Entity Recognition models. They
>> >> > provide much better quality models for OpenNLP. Languages: English,
>> >> > Spanish, German, Italian and Dutch.
>> >> > * I am also working together with Alfonso Noriega on adding support
>> >> > for the Stanford NLP sentiment annotation. For Stanbol this will mean
>> >> > that the Restful NLP engine will support Sentiment Annotations.
>> >> >
>> >> > An other issue are questions about the Contenthub and CMS Adatper that
>> >> > we can not really handle as the original developers are no longer
>> >> > active. During the dependency upgrades (STANBOL-1419) I noticed that
>> >> > those components do not have any Integration tests. So while I fixed
>> >> > all related module level issues (as reported by the unit tests) I was
>> >> > unable to ensure that everything was working as intended at runtime
>> >> > (as for all other components that do have integration tests).
>> >> >
>> >> > About Releases:
>> >> >
>> >> > I am happy to help with releases. Best would be if I you Fabian could
>> >> > show me everything I need to know to create releases by my own in the
>> >> > future.
>> >> >
>> >> > best
>> >> > Rupert
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > | Rupert Westenthaler rupert.westenthaler@gmail.com
>> >> > | Bodenlehenstraße 11 ++43-699-11108907
>> >> > | A-5500 Bischofshofen
>> >> > | REDLINK.CO
>> >> >
>> >>
>> ..........................................................................
>> >> > | http://redlink.co/
>> >> >
>> >>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Fabian
>> http://twitter.com/fctwitt
>>
--
| Rupert Westenthaler rupert.westenthaler@gmail.com
| Bodenlehenstraße 11 ++43-699-11108907
| A-5500 Bischofshofen
| REDLINK.CO ..........................................................................
| http://redlink.co/
Re: Report time again. Query for input
Posted by Rafa Haro <rh...@apache.org>.
Hi Fabian,
On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 1:34 PM, Fabian Christ <christ.fabian@googlemail.com
> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> yes we have indeed the situation where we do not have a project owner
> who is doing some oversight of the project. I am the current chair of
> the project but also do not find the time to manage the project. I
> would have resigned as a chair if there was a person who would like to
> be in charge and become the shepherd of the project.
>
Maybe it is easier for you and everyone after the reorganization. Most of
us have very limited time for Stanbol, but this might could change if we
are able to catch-up everything, get a clean release with the current
codebase, build a new roadmap with the feedback of everyone that is using
Stanbol in regular basis and wants to join the discussion.
>
> Anything that addresses this issue is +1 from me. If there is someone
> standing up and would like to clean up - go for it.
>
> In my opinion we should shrink the code base a lot and remove anything
> that was not touched for two years. Same for the JIRA issues. Just
> keep a small Stanbol kernel around the enhancer that is manageable. We
> started Stanbol with a much larger team during a research project but
> today we have to focus. And Rafa is right that this should be part of
> roadmap planning.
>
+1. I can help on this. I can also help with some ideas for the future and
start discussions around them.
>
> Regarding a chat or meeting: We have to discuss this in the open on
> the mailing list. We have the credo that anything that was not
> discussed on the ML did not happen. So, just discuss the matters here
> and only move to chat or whatever if really necessary.
>
ok. Let's see if we can bring together a great number of actual committers
for this.
Cheers,
Rafa
>
> Best
> - Fabian
>
> 2015-06-16 14:35 GMT+02:00 Dileepa Jayakody <di...@gmail.com>:
> > +1 Rafa. I too would like to join the discussion.
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 5:19 PM, Rafa Haro <rh...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Fabian, Rupert,
> >>
> >> I have been taking a look to the Stanbol Jira and certainly there is a
> >> great mess there. For example, there are a lot of issues opened more
> than
> >> one or two years ago. What do you think guys about having a session for
> >> properly organizing this?. We can meet at the IRC channel or wherever
> you
> >> consider and talk about releases, expectations, roadmap. I have the
> >> impression that there is a complete lack of planning for the project. I
> >> know that I'm not probably the most indicated person for saying this
> >> because I'm far away of being a daily contributor. But maybe we can
> >> motivate committers again by building a great backlog and planning
> properly
> >> where the project should go. I have been using Stanbol lately for two
> real
> >> uses cases and I could share with you my impressions and provide
> feedback
> >> as functionality that would have been nice to have while developing the
> >> projects.
> >>
> >> It would be great also to know how other Apache projects build their
> >> roadmap. Maybe we find a mirror to look at.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Rafa
> >>
> >> On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 11:22 AM, Rupert Westenthaler <
> >> rupert.westenthaler@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 8:14 AM, Fabian Christ <fc...@apache.org>
> >> wrote:
> >> > > here is my draft for the report. Anything to add?
> >> >
> >> > Hi Fabian
> >> >
> >> > Nothing that is so important for adding to the Report.
> >> >
> >> > On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 8:14 AM, Fabian Christ <fc...@apache.org>
> >> wrote:
> >> > > The project is doing well but on a slow level. Main issue at the
> moment
> >> > > may be that there is no one who is cutting releases from time to
> time.
> >> > > The last release was cut one year ago. The project is aware of this
> >> > > issue and is working on it.
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> > Thats very true!
> >> >
> >> > Slow Progress ...
> >> >
> >> > * I updated most of the dependencies STANBOL-1419 (for both 0.12.1 and
> >> > trunk). So we are again using the newest Apache Sling Launcher, Apache
> >> > Felix. New Apache Sling logging with lock back support, ...)
> >> > * Added support for ixa-nerc - Named Entity Recognition models. They
> >> > provide much better quality models for OpenNLP. Languages: English,
> >> > Spanish, German, Italian and Dutch.
> >> > * I am also working together with Alfonso Noriega on adding support
> >> > for the Stanford NLP sentiment annotation. For Stanbol this will mean
> >> > that the Restful NLP engine will support Sentiment Annotations.
> >> >
> >> > An other issue are questions about the Contenthub and CMS Adatper that
> >> > we can not really handle as the original developers are no longer
> >> > active. During the dependency upgrades (STANBOL-1419) I noticed that
> >> > those components do not have any Integration tests. So while I fixed
> >> > all related module level issues (as reported by the unit tests) I was
> >> > unable to ensure that everything was working as intended at runtime
> >> > (as for all other components that do have integration tests).
> >> >
> >> > About Releases:
> >> >
> >> > I am happy to help with releases. Best would be if I you Fabian could
> >> > show me everything I need to know to create releases by my own in the
> >> > future.
> >> >
> >> > best
> >> > Rupert
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > | Rupert Westenthaler rupert.westenthaler@gmail.com
> >> > | Bodenlehenstraße 11 ++43-699-11108907
> >> > | A-5500 Bischofshofen
> >> > | REDLINK.CO
> >> >
> >>
> ..........................................................................
> >> > | http://redlink.co/
> >> >
> >>
>
>
>
> --
> Fabian
> http://twitter.com/fctwitt
>
Re: Report time again. Query for input
Posted by Fabian Christ <ch...@googlemail.com>.
Hi,
yes we have indeed the situation where we do not have a project owner
who is doing some oversight of the project. I am the current chair of
the project but also do not find the time to manage the project. I
would have resigned as a chair if there was a person who would like to
be in charge and become the shepherd of the project.
Anything that addresses this issue is +1 from me. If there is someone
standing up and would like to clean up - go for it.
In my opinion we should shrink the code base a lot and remove anything
that was not touched for two years. Same for the JIRA issues. Just
keep a small Stanbol kernel around the enhancer that is manageable. We
started Stanbol with a much larger team during a research project but
today we have to focus. And Rafa is right that this should be part of
roadmap planning.
Regarding a chat or meeting: We have to discuss this in the open on
the mailing list. We have the credo that anything that was not
discussed on the ML did not happen. So, just discuss the matters here
and only move to chat or whatever if really necessary.
Best
- Fabian
2015-06-16 14:35 GMT+02:00 Dileepa Jayakody <di...@gmail.com>:
> +1 Rafa. I too would like to join the discussion.
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 5:19 PM, Rafa Haro <rh...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi Fabian, Rupert,
>>
>> I have been taking a look to the Stanbol Jira and certainly there is a
>> great mess there. For example, there are a lot of issues opened more than
>> one or two years ago. What do you think guys about having a session for
>> properly organizing this?. We can meet at the IRC channel or wherever you
>> consider and talk about releases, expectations, roadmap. I have the
>> impression that there is a complete lack of planning for the project. I
>> know that I'm not probably the most indicated person for saying this
>> because I'm far away of being a daily contributor. But maybe we can
>> motivate committers again by building a great backlog and planning properly
>> where the project should go. I have been using Stanbol lately for two real
>> uses cases and I could share with you my impressions and provide feedback
>> as functionality that would have been nice to have while developing the
>> projects.
>>
>> It would be great also to know how other Apache projects build their
>> roadmap. Maybe we find a mirror to look at.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Rafa
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 11:22 AM, Rupert Westenthaler <
>> rupert.westenthaler@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 8:14 AM, Fabian Christ <fc...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>> > > here is my draft for the report. Anything to add?
>> >
>> > Hi Fabian
>> >
>> > Nothing that is so important for adding to the Report.
>> >
>> > On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 8:14 AM, Fabian Christ <fc...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>> > > The project is doing well but on a slow level. Main issue at the moment
>> > > may be that there is no one who is cutting releases from time to time.
>> > > The last release was cut one year ago. The project is aware of this
>> > > issue and is working on it.
>> > >
>> >
>> > Thats very true!
>> >
>> > Slow Progress ...
>> >
>> > * I updated most of the dependencies STANBOL-1419 (for both 0.12.1 and
>> > trunk). So we are again using the newest Apache Sling Launcher, Apache
>> > Felix. New Apache Sling logging with lock back support, ...)
>> > * Added support for ixa-nerc - Named Entity Recognition models. They
>> > provide much better quality models for OpenNLP. Languages: English,
>> > Spanish, German, Italian and Dutch.
>> > * I am also working together with Alfonso Noriega on adding support
>> > for the Stanford NLP sentiment annotation. For Stanbol this will mean
>> > that the Restful NLP engine will support Sentiment Annotations.
>> >
>> > An other issue are questions about the Contenthub and CMS Adatper that
>> > we can not really handle as the original developers are no longer
>> > active. During the dependency upgrades (STANBOL-1419) I noticed that
>> > those components do not have any Integration tests. So while I fixed
>> > all related module level issues (as reported by the unit tests) I was
>> > unable to ensure that everything was working as intended at runtime
>> > (as for all other components that do have integration tests).
>> >
>> > About Releases:
>> >
>> > I am happy to help with releases. Best would be if I you Fabian could
>> > show me everything I need to know to create releases by my own in the
>> > future.
>> >
>> > best
>> > Rupert
>> >
>> > --
>> > | Rupert Westenthaler rupert.westenthaler@gmail.com
>> > | Bodenlehenstraße 11 ++43-699-11108907
>> > | A-5500 Bischofshofen
>> > | REDLINK.CO
>> >
>> ..........................................................................
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Re: Report time again. Query for input
Posted by Dileepa Jayakody <di...@gmail.com>.
+1 Rafa. I too would like to join the discussion.
On Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 5:19 PM, Rafa Haro <rh...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi Fabian, Rupert,
>
> I have been taking a look to the Stanbol Jira and certainly there is a
> great mess there. For example, there are a lot of issues opened more than
> one or two years ago. What do you think guys about having a session for
> properly organizing this?. We can meet at the IRC channel or wherever you
> consider and talk about releases, expectations, roadmap. I have the
> impression that there is a complete lack of planning for the project. I
> know that I'm not probably the most indicated person for saying this
> because I'm far away of being a daily contributor. But maybe we can
> motivate committers again by building a great backlog and planning properly
> where the project should go. I have been using Stanbol lately for two real
> uses cases and I could share with you my impressions and provide feedback
> as functionality that would have been nice to have while developing the
> projects.
>
> It would be great also to know how other Apache projects build their
> roadmap. Maybe we find a mirror to look at.
>
> Cheers,
> Rafa
>
> On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 11:22 AM, Rupert Westenthaler <
> rupert.westenthaler@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 8:14 AM, Fabian Christ <fc...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > > here is my draft for the report. Anything to add?
> >
> > Hi Fabian
> >
> > Nothing that is so important for adding to the Report.
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 8:14 AM, Fabian Christ <fc...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > > The project is doing well but on a slow level. Main issue at the moment
> > > may be that there is no one who is cutting releases from time to time.
> > > The last release was cut one year ago. The project is aware of this
> > > issue and is working on it.
> > >
> >
> > Thats very true!
> >
> > Slow Progress ...
> >
> > * I updated most of the dependencies STANBOL-1419 (for both 0.12.1 and
> > trunk). So we are again using the newest Apache Sling Launcher, Apache
> > Felix. New Apache Sling logging with lock back support, ...)
> > * Added support for ixa-nerc - Named Entity Recognition models. They
> > provide much better quality models for OpenNLP. Languages: English,
> > Spanish, German, Italian and Dutch.
> > * I am also working together with Alfonso Noriega on adding support
> > for the Stanford NLP sentiment annotation. For Stanbol this will mean
> > that the Restful NLP engine will support Sentiment Annotations.
> >
> > An other issue are questions about the Contenthub and CMS Adatper that
> > we can not really handle as the original developers are no longer
> > active. During the dependency upgrades (STANBOL-1419) I noticed that
> > those components do not have any Integration tests. So while I fixed
> > all related module level issues (as reported by the unit tests) I was
> > unable to ensure that everything was working as intended at runtime
> > (as for all other components that do have integration tests).
> >
> > About Releases:
> >
> > I am happy to help with releases. Best would be if I you Fabian could
> > show me everything I need to know to create releases by my own in the
> > future.
> >
> > best
> > Rupert
> >
> > --
> > | Rupert Westenthaler rupert.westenthaler@gmail.com
> > | Bodenlehenstraße 11 ++43-699-11108907
> > | A-5500 Bischofshofen
> > | REDLINK.CO
> >
> ..........................................................................
> > | http://redlink.co/
> >
>
Re: Report time again. Query for input
Posted by Rafa Haro <rh...@apache.org>.
Hi Fabian, Rupert,
I have been taking a look to the Stanbol Jira and certainly there is a
great mess there. For example, there are a lot of issues opened more than
one or two years ago. What do you think guys about having a session for
properly organizing this?. We can meet at the IRC channel or wherever you
consider and talk about releases, expectations, roadmap. I have the
impression that there is a complete lack of planning for the project. I
know that I'm not probably the most indicated person for saying this
because I'm far away of being a daily contributor. But maybe we can
motivate committers again by building a great backlog and planning properly
where the project should go. I have been using Stanbol lately for two real
uses cases and I could share with you my impressions and provide feedback
as functionality that would have been nice to have while developing the
projects.
It would be great also to know how other Apache projects build their
roadmap. Maybe we find a mirror to look at.
Cheers,
Rafa
On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 11:22 AM, Rupert Westenthaler <
rupert.westenthaler@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 8:14 AM, Fabian Christ <fc...@apache.org> wrote:
> > here is my draft for the report. Anything to add?
>
> Hi Fabian
>
> Nothing that is so important for adding to the Report.
>
> On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 8:14 AM, Fabian Christ <fc...@apache.org> wrote:
> > The project is doing well but on a slow level. Main issue at the moment
> > may be that there is no one who is cutting releases from time to time.
> > The last release was cut one year ago. The project is aware of this
> > issue and is working on it.
> >
>
> Thats very true!
>
> Slow Progress ...
>
> * I updated most of the dependencies STANBOL-1419 (for both 0.12.1 and
> trunk). So we are again using the newest Apache Sling Launcher, Apache
> Felix. New Apache Sling logging with lock back support, ...)
> * Added support for ixa-nerc - Named Entity Recognition models. They
> provide much better quality models for OpenNLP. Languages: English,
> Spanish, German, Italian and Dutch.
> * I am also working together with Alfonso Noriega on adding support
> for the Stanford NLP sentiment annotation. For Stanbol this will mean
> that the Restful NLP engine will support Sentiment Annotations.
>
> An other issue are questions about the Contenthub and CMS Adatper that
> we can not really handle as the original developers are no longer
> active. During the dependency upgrades (STANBOL-1419) I noticed that
> those components do not have any Integration tests. So while I fixed
> all related module level issues (as reported by the unit tests) I was
> unable to ensure that everything was working as intended at runtime
> (as for all other components that do have integration tests).
>
> About Releases:
>
> I am happy to help with releases. Best would be if I you Fabian could
> show me everything I need to know to create releases by my own in the
> future.
>
> best
> Rupert
>
> --
> | Rupert Westenthaler rupert.westenthaler@gmail.com
> | Bodenlehenstraße 11 ++43-699-11108907
> | A-5500 Bischofshofen
> | REDLINK.CO
> ..........................................................................
> | http://redlink.co/
>
Re: Report time again. Query for input
Posted by Rupert Westenthaler <ru...@gmail.com>.
On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 8:14 AM, Fabian Christ <fc...@apache.org> wrote:
> here is my draft for the report. Anything to add?
Hi Fabian
Nothing that is so important for adding to the Report.
On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 8:14 AM, Fabian Christ <fc...@apache.org> wrote:
> The project is doing well but on a slow level. Main issue at the moment
> may be that there is no one who is cutting releases from time to time.
> The last release was cut one year ago. The project is aware of this
> issue and is working on it.
>
Thats very true!
Slow Progress ...
* I updated most of the dependencies STANBOL-1419 (for both 0.12.1 and
trunk). So we are again using the newest Apache Sling Launcher, Apache
Felix. New Apache Sling logging with lock back support, ...)
* Added support for ixa-nerc - Named Entity Recognition models. They
provide much better quality models for OpenNLP. Languages: English,
Spanish, German, Italian and Dutch.
* I am also working together with Alfonso Noriega on adding support
for the Stanford NLP sentiment annotation. For Stanbol this will mean
that the Restful NLP engine will support Sentiment Annotations.
An other issue are questions about the Contenthub and CMS Adatper that
we can not really handle as the original developers are no longer
active. During the dependency upgrades (STANBOL-1419) I noticed that
those components do not have any Integration tests. So while I fixed
all related module level issues (as reported by the unit tests) I was
unable to ensure that everything was working as intended at runtime
(as for all other components that do have integration tests).
About Releases:
I am happy to help with releases. Best would be if I you Fabian could
show me everything I need to know to create releases by my own in the
future.
best
Rupert
--
| Rupert Westenthaler rupert.westenthaler@gmail.com
| Bodenlehenstraße 11 ++43-699-11108907
| A-5500 Bischofshofen
| REDLINK.CO ..........................................................................
| http://redlink.co/
Re: Report time again. Query for input
Posted by Fabian Christ <fc...@apache.org>.
Hi,
here is my draft for the report. Anything to add?
DRAFT
Status report for the Apache Stanbol Project - June, 2015
Apache Stanbol provides a set of reusable components for semantic content
management.
There are no issues which require board attention at the moment.
The project is doing well but on a slow level. Main issue at the moment
may be that there is no one who is cutting releases from time to time.
The last release was cut one year ago. The project is aware of this
issue and is working on it.
For the first time in the project's lifetime the number of subscribers
on the dev list has dropped by about 10 subscribers.
Subscribers on the dev list: 226
Cristian Petroaca was voted for as a new committer on May 7th, 2015.
Last new committer was
Cristian Petroaca on May 7th, 2015
No new PMC member was elected since the graduation of Apache Stanbol on
Sep 19th, 2012.
Last stack release was:
Apache Stanbol 0.12 on Mar 2nd, 2014
Last component release was:
Apache Stanbol Partial Security Release RC2 on June 5th, 2014
org.apache.stanbol.commons.security.reactor-20140602
2015-06-14 22:03 GMT+02:00 Fabian Christ <fc...@apache.org>:
> Hi Stanbolers,
>
> it is report time again and we have to submit for the June report until June
> 17th.
>
> Please, provide any input on what has happened in the project in the past
> three months. I will draft a report then.
>
> Best
> Fabian