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Posted to users@cloudstack.apache.org by Audrey Roberto B Baldin <au...@unitelco.com.br> on 2016/11/24 13:14:27 UTC
Billing for services
Hi there,
How can we get billing information from cloudstack?
If a customer is using a VPC, is it possible to get information of how much traffic he is consuming in the public network and the private gateway? I don't intend to bill for the traffic between VMs.
Thanks for your help!
Att.,
Audrey
RE: Billing for services
Posted by Marty Godsey <ma...@gonsource.com>.
If you want a commercial product that works with the usage server you can look at Amysta or Ubersmith. Both work well but come with a price which really isn’t bad.
I personally use Ubersmith.
Regards,
Marty Godsey
Principal Engineer
nSource Solutions, LLC
-----Original Message-----
From: Audrey Roberto B Baldin [mailto:audrey.baldin@unitelco.com.br]
Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2016 9:02 AM
To: users <us...@cloudstack.apache.org>
Subject: Re: Billing for services
Dag, thanks for your return.
I'd looked at usage service, but could not figure out how to work with it, yet. I've been reading some presentations from ShapeBlue about, but still coudn't understand how to use it.
But I'm not sure, for example, if the usage service can show bandwidth usage from each interface of the VPC. How can I bill for internet usage for example if I can't measure only the internet traffic a user is consuming from the public network?
Att.,
Audrey
----- Mensagem original -----
De: "Dag Sonstebo" <Da...@shapeblue.com>
Para: "users" <us...@cloudstack.apache.org>
Enviadas: Quinta-feira, 24 de novembro de 2016 11:35:22
Assunto: Re: Billing for services
Hi Audrey,
This is basically what the CloudStack usage service is for - suggest you install this and take a look at the data this provides.
Regards,
Dag Sonstebo
Cloud Architect
ShapeBlue
On 24/11/2016, 13:14, "Audrey Roberto B Baldin" <au...@unitelco.com.br> wrote:
>Hi there,
>
>How can we get billing information from cloudstack?
>
>If a customer is using a VPC, is it possible to get information of how much traffic he is consuming in the public network and the private gateway? I don't intend to bill for the traffic between VMs.
>
>Thanks for your help!
>
>Att.,
>Audrey
Dag.Sonstebo@shapeblue.com
www.shapeblue.com
53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London WC2N 4HSUK
@shapeblue
Re: Billing for services
Posted by Audrey Roberto B Baldin <au...@unitelco.com.br>.
Thank for all the help about billing services.
After some initial troubleshooting we could put the usage service to work. For some reason it was not populating the cloud_usage database but we could fix it.
I would like to know if you could help me understand some entries in the database. Most of them are pretty easy to understand, but one in particular I could not figure out.
When I check for the Network Usage (Bytes Sent/Bytes Received) (usagetypeid 4/5), when I look to values regarding the DomainRouter (type=DomainRouter), is it a measure only for the Public Network traffic or a sum of every interface for that particular VR (or VPC in my case)?
Att.,
Audrey
----- Mensagem original -----
De: "Grégoire Lamodière" <g....@dimsi.fr>
Para: "users" <us...@cloudstack.apache.org>
Enviadas: Sexta-feira, 25 de novembro de 2016 11:14:10
Assunto: RE: Billing for services
Dear Audrey,
Here is the man page of the usage service : http://docs.cloudstack.apache.org/projects/cloudstack-administration/en/4.8/usage.html
You have 2 settings that might help you :
1/ usage.stats.job.exec.time
2/ usage.stats.job.aggregation.range
Best Regards.
---
Grégoire Lamodière
-----Message d'origine-----
De : Audrey Roberto B Baldin [mailto:audrey.baldin@unitelco.com.br]
Envoyé : vendredi 25 novembre 2016 13:57
À : users <us...@cloudstack.apache.org>
Objet : Re: Billing for services
I'm looking into the cloud_usage database, but it appears that some information are missing, like they are not sync'ed with the production system.
I look into the accounts table for example, and can't find all accounts that exists in the same table in the cloud database.
Is there any way to sync the data?
Att.,
Audrey
----- Mensagem original -----
De: "Grégoire Lamodière" <g....@dimsi.fr>
Para: "users" <us...@cloudstack.apache.org>
Enviadas: Quinta-feira, 24 de novembro de 2016 19:59:29
Assunto: RE: Billing for services
Dear Audrey,
The starting point would be to install and start the cloudstack usage service (I think this step is well documented inside CS installation guide).
Basically, this service will collect and agregate usage for most CS metrics (Instance running, storage, network, etc).
These metrics are then stored inside a MySQL DB (cloud_usage).
You can easily export these values directly from Mysql to Excel (http://support.en.ctx.org.cn/ctx132030.citrix).
The second option (recommanded) is to use cloudstack API to get usage and manage them with third part apps.
I personnaly tested Amysta few months ago, and it was pretty good.
Best Regards.
---
Grégoire Lamodière
-----Message d'origine-----
De : Audrey Roberto B Baldin [mailto:audrey.baldin@unitelco.com.br]
Envoyé : jeudi 24 novembre 2016 15:02
À : users <us...@cloudstack.apache.org>
Objet : Re: Billing for services
Dag, thanks for your return.
I'd looked at usage service, but could not figure out how to work with it, yet. I've been reading some presentations from ShapeBlue about, but still coudn't understand how to use it.
But I'm not sure, for example, if the usage service can show bandwidth usage from each interface of the VPC. How can I bill for internet usage for example if I can't measure only the internet traffic a user is consuming from the public network?
Att.,
Audrey
----- Mensagem original -----
De: "Dag Sonstebo" <Da...@shapeblue.com>
Para: "users" <us...@cloudstack.apache.org>
Enviadas: Quinta-feira, 24 de novembro de 2016 11:35:22
Assunto: Re: Billing for services
Hi Audrey,
This is basically what the CloudStack usage service is for - suggest you install this and take a look at the data this provides.
Regards,
Dag Sonstebo
Cloud Architect
ShapeBlue
On 24/11/2016, 13:14, "Audrey Roberto B Baldin" <au...@unitelco.com.br> wrote:
>Hi there,
>
>How can we get billing information from cloudstack?
>
>If a customer is using a VPC, is it possible to get information of how much traffic he is consuming in the public network and the private gateway? I don't intend to bill for the traffic between VMs.
>
>Thanks for your help!
>
>Att.,
>Audrey
Dag.Sonstebo@shapeblue.com
www.shapeblue.com
53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London WC2N 4HSUK
@shapeblue
RE: Billing for services
Posted by Grégoire Lamodière <g....@dimsi.fr>.
Dear Audrey,
Here is the man page of the usage service : http://docs.cloudstack.apache.org/projects/cloudstack-administration/en/4.8/usage.html
You have 2 settings that might help you :
1/ usage.stats.job.exec.time
2/ usage.stats.job.aggregation.range
Best Regards.
---
Grégoire Lamodière
-----Message d'origine-----
De : Audrey Roberto B Baldin [mailto:audrey.baldin@unitelco.com.br]
Envoyé : vendredi 25 novembre 2016 13:57
À : users <us...@cloudstack.apache.org>
Objet : Re: Billing for services
I'm looking into the cloud_usage database, but it appears that some information are missing, like they are not sync'ed with the production system.
I look into the accounts table for example, and can't find all accounts that exists in the same table in the cloud database.
Is there any way to sync the data?
Att.,
Audrey
----- Mensagem original -----
De: "Grégoire Lamodière" <g....@dimsi.fr>
Para: "users" <us...@cloudstack.apache.org>
Enviadas: Quinta-feira, 24 de novembro de 2016 19:59:29
Assunto: RE: Billing for services
Dear Audrey,
The starting point would be to install and start the cloudstack usage service (I think this step is well documented inside CS installation guide).
Basically, this service will collect and agregate usage for most CS metrics (Instance running, storage, network, etc).
These metrics are then stored inside a MySQL DB (cloud_usage).
You can easily export these values directly from Mysql to Excel (http://support.en.ctx.org.cn/ctx132030.citrix).
The second option (recommanded) is to use cloudstack API to get usage and manage them with third part apps.
I personnaly tested Amysta few months ago, and it was pretty good.
Best Regards.
---
Grégoire Lamodière
-----Message d'origine-----
De : Audrey Roberto B Baldin [mailto:audrey.baldin@unitelco.com.br]
Envoyé : jeudi 24 novembre 2016 15:02
À : users <us...@cloudstack.apache.org>
Objet : Re: Billing for services
Dag, thanks for your return.
I'd looked at usage service, but could not figure out how to work with it, yet. I've been reading some presentations from ShapeBlue about, but still coudn't understand how to use it.
But I'm not sure, for example, if the usage service can show bandwidth usage from each interface of the VPC. How can I bill for internet usage for example if I can't measure only the internet traffic a user is consuming from the public network?
Att.,
Audrey
----- Mensagem original -----
De: "Dag Sonstebo" <Da...@shapeblue.com>
Para: "users" <us...@cloudstack.apache.org>
Enviadas: Quinta-feira, 24 de novembro de 2016 11:35:22
Assunto: Re: Billing for services
Hi Audrey,
This is basically what the CloudStack usage service is for - suggest you install this and take a look at the data this provides.
Regards,
Dag Sonstebo
Cloud Architect
ShapeBlue
On 24/11/2016, 13:14, "Audrey Roberto B Baldin" <au...@unitelco.com.br> wrote:
>Hi there,
>
>How can we get billing information from cloudstack?
>
>If a customer is using a VPC, is it possible to get information of how much traffic he is consuming in the public network and the private gateway? I don't intend to bill for the traffic between VMs.
>
>Thanks for your help!
>
>Att.,
>Audrey
Dag.Sonstebo@shapeblue.com
www.shapeblue.com
53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London WC2N 4HSUK
@shapeblue
Re: Billing for services
Posted by Audrey Roberto B Baldin <au...@unitelco.com.br>.
I'm looking into the cloud_usage database, but it appears that some information are missing, like they are not sync'ed with the production system.
I look into the accounts table for example, and can't find all accounts that exists in the same table in the cloud database.
Is there any way to sync the data?
Att.,
Audrey
----- Mensagem original -----
De: "Grégoire Lamodière" <g....@dimsi.fr>
Para: "users" <us...@cloudstack.apache.org>
Enviadas: Quinta-feira, 24 de novembro de 2016 19:59:29
Assunto: RE: Billing for services
Dear Audrey,
The starting point would be to install and start the cloudstack usage service (I think this step is well documented inside CS installation guide).
Basically, this service will collect and agregate usage for most CS metrics (Instance running, storage, network, etc).
These metrics are then stored inside a MySQL DB (cloud_usage).
You can easily export these values directly from Mysql to Excel (http://support.en.ctx.org.cn/ctx132030.citrix).
The second option (recommanded) is to use cloudstack API to get usage and manage them with third part apps.
I personnaly tested Amysta few months ago, and it was pretty good.
Best Regards.
---
Grégoire Lamodière
-----Message d'origine-----
De : Audrey Roberto B Baldin [mailto:audrey.baldin@unitelco.com.br]
Envoyé : jeudi 24 novembre 2016 15:02
À : users <us...@cloudstack.apache.org>
Objet : Re: Billing for services
Dag, thanks for your return.
I'd looked at usage service, but could not figure out how to work with it, yet. I've been reading some presentations from ShapeBlue about, but still coudn't understand how to use it.
But I'm not sure, for example, if the usage service can show bandwidth usage from each interface of the VPC. How can I bill for internet usage for example if I can't measure only the internet traffic a user is consuming from the public network?
Att.,
Audrey
----- Mensagem original -----
De: "Dag Sonstebo" <Da...@shapeblue.com>
Para: "users" <us...@cloudstack.apache.org>
Enviadas: Quinta-feira, 24 de novembro de 2016 11:35:22
Assunto: Re: Billing for services
Hi Audrey,
This is basically what the CloudStack usage service is for - suggest you install this and take a look at the data this provides.
Regards,
Dag Sonstebo
Cloud Architect
ShapeBlue
On 24/11/2016, 13:14, "Audrey Roberto B Baldin" <au...@unitelco.com.br> wrote:
>Hi there,
>
>How can we get billing information from cloudstack?
>
>If a customer is using a VPC, is it possible to get information of how much traffic he is consuming in the public network and the private gateway? I don't intend to bill for the traffic between VMs.
>
>Thanks for your help!
>
>Att.,
>Audrey
Dag.Sonstebo@shapeblue.com
www.shapeblue.com
53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London WC2N 4HSUK
@shapeblue
RE: Billing for services
Posted by Grégoire Lamodière <g....@dimsi.fr>.
Dear Audrey,
The starting point would be to install and start the cloudstack usage service (I think this step is well documented inside CS installation guide).
Basically, this service will collect and agregate usage for most CS metrics (Instance running, storage, network, etc).
These metrics are then stored inside a MySQL DB (cloud_usage).
You can easily export these values directly from Mysql to Excel (http://support.en.ctx.org.cn/ctx132030.citrix).
The second option (recommanded) is to use cloudstack API to get usage and manage them with third part apps.
I personnaly tested Amysta few months ago, and it was pretty good.
Best Regards.
---
Grégoire Lamodière
-----Message d'origine-----
De : Audrey Roberto B Baldin [mailto:audrey.baldin@unitelco.com.br]
Envoyé : jeudi 24 novembre 2016 15:02
À : users <us...@cloudstack.apache.org>
Objet : Re: Billing for services
Dag, thanks for your return.
I'd looked at usage service, but could not figure out how to work with it, yet. I've been reading some presentations from ShapeBlue about, but still coudn't understand how to use it.
But I'm not sure, for example, if the usage service can show bandwidth usage from each interface of the VPC. How can I bill for internet usage for example if I can't measure only the internet traffic a user is consuming from the public network?
Att.,
Audrey
----- Mensagem original -----
De: "Dag Sonstebo" <Da...@shapeblue.com>
Para: "users" <us...@cloudstack.apache.org>
Enviadas: Quinta-feira, 24 de novembro de 2016 11:35:22
Assunto: Re: Billing for services
Hi Audrey,
This is basically what the CloudStack usage service is for - suggest you install this and take a look at the data this provides.
Regards,
Dag Sonstebo
Cloud Architect
ShapeBlue
On 24/11/2016, 13:14, "Audrey Roberto B Baldin" <au...@unitelco.com.br> wrote:
>Hi there,
>
>How can we get billing information from cloudstack?
>
>If a customer is using a VPC, is it possible to get information of how much traffic he is consuming in the public network and the private gateway? I don't intend to bill for the traffic between VMs.
>
>Thanks for your help!
>
>Att.,
>Audrey
Dag.Sonstebo@shapeblue.com
www.shapeblue.com
53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London WC2N 4HSUK
@shapeblue
Re: Billing for services
Posted by Audrey Roberto B Baldin <au...@unitelco.com.br>.
Dag, thanks for your return.
I'd looked at usage service, but could not figure out how to work with it, yet. I've been reading some presentations from ShapeBlue about, but still coudn't understand how to use it.
But I'm not sure, for example, if the usage service can show bandwidth usage from each interface of the VPC. How can I bill for internet usage for example if I can't measure only the internet traffic a user is consuming from the public network?
Att.,
Audrey
----- Mensagem original -----
De: "Dag Sonstebo" <Da...@shapeblue.com>
Para: "users" <us...@cloudstack.apache.org>
Enviadas: Quinta-feira, 24 de novembro de 2016 11:35:22
Assunto: Re: Billing for services
Hi Audrey,
This is basically what the CloudStack usage service is for - suggest you install this and take a look at the data this provides.
Regards,
Dag Sonstebo
Cloud Architect
ShapeBlue
On 24/11/2016, 13:14, "Audrey Roberto B Baldin" <au...@unitelco.com.br> wrote:
>Hi there,
>
>How can we get billing information from cloudstack?
>
>If a customer is using a VPC, is it possible to get information of how much traffic he is consuming in the public network and the private gateway? I don't intend to bill for the traffic between VMs.
>
>Thanks for your help!
>
>Att.,
>Audrey
Dag.Sonstebo@shapeblue.com
www.shapeblue.com
53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London WC2N 4HSUK
@shapeblue
Re: Billing for services
Posted by Dag Sonstebo <Da...@shapeblue.com>.
Hi Audrey,
This is basically what the CloudStack usage service is for - suggest you install this and take a look at the data this provides.
Regards,
Dag Sonstebo
Cloud Architect
ShapeBlue
On 24/11/2016, 13:14, "Audrey Roberto B Baldin" <au...@unitelco.com.br> wrote:
>Hi there,
>
>How can we get billing information from cloudstack?
>
>If a customer is using a VPC, is it possible to get information of how much traffic he is consuming in the public network and the private gateway? I don't intend to bill for the traffic between VMs.
>
>Thanks for your help!
>
>Att.,
>Audrey
Dag.Sonstebo@shapeblue.com
www.shapeblue.com
53 Chandos Place, Covent Garden, London WC2N 4HSUK
@shapeblue