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struts2-tags in cwiki
is the "struts2-tags" cwiki variable pointing to svn trunk or the branch?
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Re: struts2-tags in cwiki
Posted by Musachy Barroso <mu...@gmail.com>.
I think the tags are the main problem, specially after the Dojo refactoring.
musachy
On 8/21/07, Ted Husted <hu...@apache.org> wrote:
> We never really branched the Struts 1 documentation. When a feature
> applied to a later release, we just said "Since Struts 1.2.9, ...."
> and kept on going.
>
> I'd suggest that we try and do the same with the Struts 2 docs. If a
> section or a page only applies to Struts 2.1.0 (the head), we just say
> "Since Struts 2.1", and so forth. For extra credit, we could also
> "label" any pages that have a lot of Struts 2.1 content.
>
> If the tags are going to be a special problem, then perhaps we should
> move the tags to their own space, and clone the tag space.
>
> -Ted.
>
> On 8/21/07, Nils-Helge Garli <ni...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > What's the status for this? Is it possible to "branch" the wiki, or do
> > we create new pages and "deprecate" the old ones?
> >
> > Nils-H
> >
> > On 8/2/07, Musachy Barroso <mu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > I think it would be appropriate for 2.1 vs 2.0.x, +1 for it.
> > >
> > > musachy
> > >
> > > On 8/2/07, Don Brown <mr...@twdata.org> wrote:
> > > > For a FedEx day project, one of the Confluence guys created a plugin
> > > > that allowed you to clone/tag/branch a space. We might want to do the
> > > > same if new branches significantly differ from the previous.
> > > >
> > > > http://blogs.atlassian.com/developer/2007/05/fedex_v_copy_space_plugin.html
> > > >
> > > > Don
> > > >
> > > > On 8/2/07, Musachy Barroso <mu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > That's probably not a good idea, as the ajax-related tags changed
> > > > > quite a bit on 2.1 now the documentation is pointing to them.
> > > > >
> > > > > musachy
> > > > >
> > > > > On 8/2/07, Rene Gielen <gi...@it-neering.net> wrote:
> > > > > > Actual value is
> > > > > > http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/struts/struts2/trunk/core/src/site/resources/tags/
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Musachy Barroso schrieb:
> > > > > > > is the "struts2-tags" cwiki variable pointing to svn trunk or the branch?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > musachy
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Re: struts2-tags in cwiki
Posted by Ted Husted <hu...@apache.org>.
We never really branched the Struts 1 documentation. When a feature
applied to a later release, we just said "Since Struts 1.2.9, ...."
and kept on going.
I'd suggest that we try and do the same with the Struts 2 docs. If a
section or a page only applies to Struts 2.1.0 (the head), we just say
"Since Struts 2.1", and so forth. For extra credit, we could also
"label" any pages that have a lot of Struts 2.1 content.
If the tags are going to be a special problem, then perhaps we should
move the tags to their own space, and clone the tag space.
-Ted.
On 8/21/07, Nils-Helge Garli <ni...@gmail.com> wrote:
> What's the status for this? Is it possible to "branch" the wiki, or do
> we create new pages and "deprecate" the old ones?
>
> Nils-H
>
> On 8/2/07, Musachy Barroso <mu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I think it would be appropriate for 2.1 vs 2.0.x, +1 for it.
> >
> > musachy
> >
> > On 8/2/07, Don Brown <mr...@twdata.org> wrote:
> > > For a FedEx day project, one of the Confluence guys created a plugin
> > > that allowed you to clone/tag/branch a space. We might want to do the
> > > same if new branches significantly differ from the previous.
> > >
> > > http://blogs.atlassian.com/developer/2007/05/fedex_v_copy_space_plugin.html
> > >
> > > Don
> > >
> > > On 8/2/07, Musachy Barroso <mu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > That's probably not a good idea, as the ajax-related tags changed
> > > > quite a bit on 2.1 now the documentation is pointing to them.
> > > >
> > > > musachy
> > > >
> > > > On 8/2/07, Rene Gielen <gi...@it-neering.net> wrote:
> > > > > Actual value is
> > > > > http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/struts/struts2/trunk/core/src/site/resources/tags/
> > > > >
> > > > > Musachy Barroso schrieb:
> > > > > > is the "struts2-tags" cwiki variable pointing to svn trunk or the branch?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > musachy
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Re: struts2-tags in cwiki
Posted by Nils-Helge Garli <ni...@gmail.com>.
What's the status for this? Is it possible to "branch" the wiki, or do
we create new pages and "deprecate" the old ones?
Nils-H
On 8/2/07, Musachy Barroso <mu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I think it would be appropriate for 2.1 vs 2.0.x, +1 for it.
>
> musachy
>
> On 8/2/07, Don Brown <mr...@twdata.org> wrote:
> > For a FedEx day project, one of the Confluence guys created a plugin
> > that allowed you to clone/tag/branch a space. We might want to do the
> > same if new branches significantly differ from the previous.
> >
> > http://blogs.atlassian.com/developer/2007/05/fedex_v_copy_space_plugin.html
> >
> > Don
> >
> > On 8/2/07, Musachy Barroso <mu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > That's probably not a good idea, as the ajax-related tags changed
> > > quite a bit on 2.1 now the documentation is pointing to them.
> > >
> > > musachy
> > >
> > > On 8/2/07, Rene Gielen <gi...@it-neering.net> wrote:
> > > > Actual value is
> > > > http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/struts/struts2/trunk/core/src/site/resources/tags/
> > > >
> > > > Musachy Barroso schrieb:
> > > > > is the "struts2-tags" cwiki variable pointing to svn trunk or the branch?
> > > > >
> > > > > musachy
> > > > >
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Re: struts2-tags in cwiki
Posted by Musachy Barroso <mu...@gmail.com>.
I think it would be appropriate for 2.1 vs 2.0.x, +1 for it.
musachy
On 8/2/07, Don Brown <mr...@twdata.org> wrote:
> For a FedEx day project, one of the Confluence guys created a plugin
> that allowed you to clone/tag/branch a space. We might want to do the
> same if new branches significantly differ from the previous.
>
> http://blogs.atlassian.com/developer/2007/05/fedex_v_copy_space_plugin.html
>
> Don
>
> On 8/2/07, Musachy Barroso <mu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > That's probably not a good idea, as the ajax-related tags changed
> > quite a bit on 2.1 now the documentation is pointing to them.
> >
> > musachy
> >
> > On 8/2/07, Rene Gielen <gi...@it-neering.net> wrote:
> > > Actual value is
> > > http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/struts/struts2/trunk/core/src/site/resources/tags/
> > >
> > > Musachy Barroso schrieb:
> > > > is the "struts2-tags" cwiki variable pointing to svn trunk or the branch?
> > > >
> > > > musachy
> > > >
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Re: struts2-tags in cwiki
Posted by Ted Husted <hu...@apache.org>.
We bundle the HTML versions with the distribution, and we could hack
those if something came up.
On 8/3/07, Don Brown <mr...@twdata.org> wrote:
> I'm fine with making the docs cover 2.1 only, but we should at least
> preserve the old docs for users and so we can update them if we need
> to make any more security/patch releases.
>
> Don
>
> On 8/3/07, Ted Husted <hu...@apache.org> wrote:
> > The cloning would be useful if we were going to maintain both branches
> > for an indefinite period. Perhaps the underlying question is whether
> > we plan to continue to extend 2.0.x once the 2.1.x release series is
> > in play.
> >
> > Regardless of whether we are using a wiki as an editor, as to the
> > documentation generally, it would be a good idea to note the first
> > release for a new feature (as of 2.1.0), as well as when significant
> > changes to existing features were made.
> >
> > If no one is itching for another 2.0.x release, then perhaps it's time
> > to declare that the development documentation relates to the 2.1.x
> > head.
> >
> > So, what's still keeping us from a 2.1.0 beta?
> >
> > -Ted.
> >
> > On 8/2/07, Rene Gielen <gi...@it-neering.net> wrote:
> > > I always missed such a feature.
> > > For 2.1 vs. 2.0, this would help to keep proper documentation. The
> > > downside of branching is that common doc entries have to be applied
> > > twice, which requires discipline and might havd a negative impact on
> > > overall doc quality. For the codebase, svn / diff / commit mails make
> > > branches much easier to maintain...
> > >
> > > Don Brown schrieb:
> > > > For a FedEx day project, one of the Confluence guys created a plugin
> > > > that allowed you to clone/tag/branch a space. We might want to do the
> > > > same if new branches significantly differ from the previous.
> > > >
> > > > http://blogs.atlassian.com/developer/2007/05/fedex_v_copy_space_plugin.html
> > > >
> > > > Don
> > > >
> > > > On 8/2/07, Musachy Barroso <mu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >> That's probably not a good idea, as the ajax-related tags changed
> > > >> quite a bit on 2.1 now the documentation is pointing to them.
> > > >>
> > > >> musachy
> > > >>
> > > >> On 8/2/07, Rene Gielen <gi...@it-neering.net> wrote:
> > > >>> Actual value is
> > > >>> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/struts/struts2/trunk/core/src/site/resources/tags/
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Musachy Barroso schrieb:
> > > >>>> is the "struts2-tags" cwiki variable pointing to svn trunk or the branch?
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> musachy
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Re: struts2-tags in cwiki
Posted by Don Brown <mr...@twdata.org>.
I'm fine with making the docs cover 2.1 only, but we should at least
preserve the old docs for users and so we can update them if we need
to make any more security/patch releases.
Don
On 8/3/07, Ted Husted <hu...@apache.org> wrote:
> The cloning would be useful if we were going to maintain both branches
> for an indefinite period. Perhaps the underlying question is whether
> we plan to continue to extend 2.0.x once the 2.1.x release series is
> in play.
>
> Regardless of whether we are using a wiki as an editor, as to the
> documentation generally, it would be a good idea to note the first
> release for a new feature (as of 2.1.0), as well as when significant
> changes to existing features were made.
>
> If no one is itching for another 2.0.x release, then perhaps it's time
> to declare that the development documentation relates to the 2.1.x
> head.
>
> So, what's still keeping us from a 2.1.0 beta?
>
> -Ted.
>
> On 8/2/07, Rene Gielen <gi...@it-neering.net> wrote:
> > I always missed such a feature.
> > For 2.1 vs. 2.0, this would help to keep proper documentation. The
> > downside of branching is that common doc entries have to be applied
> > twice, which requires discipline and might havd a negative impact on
> > overall doc quality. For the codebase, svn / diff / commit mails make
> > branches much easier to maintain...
> >
> > Don Brown schrieb:
> > > For a FedEx day project, one of the Confluence guys created a plugin
> > > that allowed you to clone/tag/branch a space. We might want to do the
> > > same if new branches significantly differ from the previous.
> > >
> > > http://blogs.atlassian.com/developer/2007/05/fedex_v_copy_space_plugin.html
> > >
> > > Don
> > >
> > > On 8/2/07, Musachy Barroso <mu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> That's probably not a good idea, as the ajax-related tags changed
> > >> quite a bit on 2.1 now the documentation is pointing to them.
> > >>
> > >> musachy
> > >>
> > >> On 8/2/07, Rene Gielen <gi...@it-neering.net> wrote:
> > >>> Actual value is
> > >>> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/struts/struts2/trunk/core/src/site/resources/tags/
> > >>>
> > >>> Musachy Barroso schrieb:
> > >>>> is the "struts2-tags" cwiki variable pointing to svn trunk or the branch?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> musachy
> > >>>>
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Re: struts2-tags in cwiki
Posted by Ted Husted <hu...@apache.org>.
The cloning would be useful if we were going to maintain both branches
for an indefinite period. Perhaps the underlying question is whether
we plan to continue to extend 2.0.x once the 2.1.x release series is
in play.
Regardless of whether we are using a wiki as an editor, as to the
documentation generally, it would be a good idea to note the first
release for a new feature (as of 2.1.0), as well as when significant
changes to existing features were made.
If no one is itching for another 2.0.x release, then perhaps it's time
to declare that the development documentation relates to the 2.1.x
head.
So, what's still keeping us from a 2.1.0 beta?
-Ted.
On 8/2/07, Rene Gielen <gi...@it-neering.net> wrote:
> I always missed such a feature.
> For 2.1 vs. 2.0, this would help to keep proper documentation. The
> downside of branching is that common doc entries have to be applied
> twice, which requires discipline and might havd a negative impact on
> overall doc quality. For the codebase, svn / diff / commit mails make
> branches much easier to maintain...
>
> Don Brown schrieb:
> > For a FedEx day project, one of the Confluence guys created a plugin
> > that allowed you to clone/tag/branch a space. We might want to do the
> > same if new branches significantly differ from the previous.
> >
> > http://blogs.atlassian.com/developer/2007/05/fedex_v_copy_space_plugin.html
> >
> > Don
> >
> > On 8/2/07, Musachy Barroso <mu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> That's probably not a good idea, as the ajax-related tags changed
> >> quite a bit on 2.1 now the documentation is pointing to them.
> >>
> >> musachy
> >>
> >> On 8/2/07, Rene Gielen <gi...@it-neering.net> wrote:
> >>> Actual value is
> >>> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/struts/struts2/trunk/core/src/site/resources/tags/
> >>>
> >>> Musachy Barroso schrieb:
> >>>> is the "struts2-tags" cwiki variable pointing to svn trunk or the branch?
> >>>>
> >>>> musachy
> >>>>
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> >>>
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Re: struts2-tags in cwiki
Posted by Rene Gielen <gi...@it-neering.net>.
I always missed such a feature.
For 2.1 vs. 2.0, this would help to keep proper documentation. The
downside of branching is that common doc entries have to be applied
twice, which requires discipline and might havd a negative impact on
overall doc quality. For the codebase, svn / diff / commit mails make
branches much easier to maintain...
Don Brown schrieb:
> For a FedEx day project, one of the Confluence guys created a plugin
> that allowed you to clone/tag/branch a space. We might want to do the
> same if new branches significantly differ from the previous.
>
> http://blogs.atlassian.com/developer/2007/05/fedex_v_copy_space_plugin.html
>
> Don
>
> On 8/2/07, Musachy Barroso <mu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> That's probably not a good idea, as the ajax-related tags changed
>> quite a bit on 2.1 now the documentation is pointing to them.
>>
>> musachy
>>
>> On 8/2/07, Rene Gielen <gi...@it-neering.net> wrote:
>>> Actual value is
>>> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/struts/struts2/trunk/core/src/site/resources/tags/
>>>
>>> Musachy Barroso schrieb:
>>>> is the "struts2-tags" cwiki variable pointing to svn trunk or the branch?
>>>>
>>>> musachy
>>>>
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>>>
>>
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Re: struts2-tags in cwiki
Posted by Don Brown <mr...@twdata.org>.
For a FedEx day project, one of the Confluence guys created a plugin
that allowed you to clone/tag/branch a space. We might want to do the
same if new branches significantly differ from the previous.
http://blogs.atlassian.com/developer/2007/05/fedex_v_copy_space_plugin.html
Don
On 8/2/07, Musachy Barroso <mu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> That's probably not a good idea, as the ajax-related tags changed
> quite a bit on 2.1 now the documentation is pointing to them.
>
> musachy
>
> On 8/2/07, Rene Gielen <gi...@it-neering.net> wrote:
> > Actual value is
> > http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/struts/struts2/trunk/core/src/site/resources/tags/
> >
> > Musachy Barroso schrieb:
> > > is the "struts2-tags" cwiki variable pointing to svn trunk or the branch?
> > >
> > > musachy
> > >
> >
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Re: struts2-tags in cwiki
Posted by Musachy Barroso <mu...@gmail.com>.
That's probably not a good idea, as the ajax-related tags changed
quite a bit on 2.1 now the documentation is pointing to them.
musachy
On 8/2/07, Rene Gielen <gi...@it-neering.net> wrote:
> Actual value is
> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/struts/struts2/trunk/core/src/site/resources/tags/
>
> Musachy Barroso schrieb:
> > is the "struts2-tags" cwiki variable pointing to svn trunk or the branch?
> >
> > musachy
> >
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Re: struts2-tags in cwiki
Posted by Rene Gielen <gi...@it-neering.net>.
Actual value is
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/struts/struts2/trunk/core/src/site/resources/tags/
Musachy Barroso schrieb:
> is the "struts2-tags" cwiki variable pointing to svn trunk or the branch?
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> musachy
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