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[site] yet another proposal on how to restyle the commons site
Hi all guys,
new Apache Maven Fluido Skin is gonna be released soon, I started
experimenting locally how the _main_ commons site would look alike if
the new skin would be applied (with some modifications): voilà[1] :)
If you think that putting more effort on it would worth, I am glad to
continue doing more work on applying also to a component site (with
different layout), publish to my local ASF space, and see the result -
OTOH I'll become definitively silent and won't bother on that topic
anymore :)
WDYT?
Many thanks in advance, all the best!
-Simo
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Re: [site] yet another proposal on how to restyle the commons site
Posted by Benedikt Ritter <be...@gmail.com>.
2012/8/30 Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com>:
> On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 10:50 AM, Benedikt Ritter <be...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Hi Simo,
>>
>> great work, I really like the fluido skin and would like to see it go
>> live for commons.
>>
>> One minor issue: does the releases section need to have a drop down
>> although there is only one entry in the sub menu? IMHO the commons
>> parent site does not need a releases section at all. The list
>> displayed is the same as the one from the components sub section.
>> OTOH it would be cool if the releases page displayed the last recently
>> released components sorted by date with a link to their release notes.
>> But I guess that would imply a lot of maintenance work.
>>
>
> Unless there is a way to pick up the latest posts from announce@...
That would be even cooler ;-)
>
> Gary
>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Benedikt
>>
>>
>> 2012/8/30 Simone Tripodi <si...@apache.org>:
>> > Hi all guys,
>> >
>> > new Apache Maven Fluido Skin is gonna be released soon, I started
>> > experimenting locally how the _main_ commons site would look alike if
>> > the new skin would be applied (with some modifications): voilà[1] :)
>> >
>> > If you think that putting more effort on it would worth, I am glad to
>> > continue doing more work on applying also to a component site (with
>> > different layout), publish to my local ASF space, and see the result -
>> > OTOH I'll become definitively silent and won't bother on that topic
>> > anymore :)
>> >
>> > WDYT?
>> > Many thanks in advance, all the best!
>> > -Simo
>> >
>> > [1] http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/commons/index.html
>> >
>> > http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
>> > http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/
>> > http://twitter.com/simonetripodi
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Re: [site] yet another proposal on how to restyle the commons site
Posted by Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com>.
On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 10:50 AM, Benedikt Ritter <be...@gmail.com>wrote:
> Hi Simo,
>
> great work, I really like the fluido skin and would like to see it go
> live for commons.
>
> One minor issue: does the releases section need to have a drop down
> although there is only one entry in the sub menu? IMHO the commons
> parent site does not need a releases section at all. The list
> displayed is the same as the one from the components sub section.
> OTOH it would be cool if the releases page displayed the last recently
> released components sorted by date with a link to their release notes.
> But I guess that would imply a lot of maintenance work.
>
Unless there is a way to pick up the latest posts from announce@...
Gary
>
> Regards,
> Benedikt
>
>
> 2012/8/30 Simone Tripodi <si...@apache.org>:
> > Hi all guys,
> >
> > new Apache Maven Fluido Skin is gonna be released soon, I started
> > experimenting locally how the _main_ commons site would look alike if
> > the new skin would be applied (with some modifications): voilà[1] :)
> >
> > If you think that putting more effort on it would worth, I am glad to
> > continue doing more work on applying also to a component site (with
> > different layout), publish to my local ASF space, and see the result -
> > OTOH I'll become definitively silent and won't bother on that topic
> > anymore :)
> >
> > WDYT?
> > Many thanks in advance, all the best!
> > -Simo
> >
> > [1] http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/commons/index.html
> >
> > http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
> > http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/
> > http://twitter.com/simonetripodi
> > http://www.99soft.org/
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Re: [site] yet another proposal on how to restyle the commons site
Posted by Benedikt Ritter <be...@gmail.com>.
Hi Simo,
great work, I really like the fluido skin and would like to see it go
live for commons.
One minor issue: does the releases section need to have a drop down
although there is only one entry in the sub menu? IMHO the commons
parent site does not need a releases section at all. The list
displayed is the same as the one from the components sub section.
OTOH it would be cool if the releases page displayed the last recently
released components sorted by date with a link to their release notes.
But I guess that would imply a lot of maintenance work.
Regards,
Benedikt
2012/8/30 Simone Tripodi <si...@apache.org>:
> Hi all guys,
>
> new Apache Maven Fluido Skin is gonna be released soon, I started
> experimenting locally how the _main_ commons site would look alike if
> the new skin would be applied (with some modifications): voilà[1] :)
>
> If you think that putting more effort on it would worth, I am glad to
> continue doing more work on applying also to a component site (with
> different layout), publish to my local ASF space, and see the result -
> OTOH I'll become definitively silent and won't bother on that topic
> anymore :)
>
> WDYT?
> Many thanks in advance, all the best!
> -Simo
>
> [1] http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/commons/index.html
>
> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
> http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/
> http://twitter.com/simonetripodi
> http://www.99soft.org/
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Re: [site] yet another proposal on how to restyle the commons site
Posted by Olivier Lamy <ol...@apache.org>.
2012/8/31 Simone Tripodi <si...@apache.org>:
>>> I've uploaded a screenshot of that page taken with my mobile [1].
>>> Doesn't look to well, anything you can do about that?
>
> :(
>
>> Step 1: Make "Welcome to the Apache Commons" half its current font size.
>
> yup, I have no more bullets in my gun that the one Gary suggested, I
> just re-uploaded the site[1]
perso I would reduce a bit the width of the sidebar :-)
>
> How does it look?
> TIA,
> -Simo
>
> [1] http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/commons-sidebar/
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Re: [site] yet another proposal on how to restyle the commons site
Posted by Ralph Goers <ra...@dslextreme.com>.
On Aug 31, 2012, at 10:47 AM, Simone Tripodi wrote:
> Hi Ralph!
>
>> Actually, I am not sure that the full listing of the components on the main page even needs to be there. If you click on "components" in the left nav you get pretty much the same thing. So I would prefer to see a much shorter section on Commons Proper, perhaps with the same link in that text.
>>
>
> That is indeed the reason why I originally put the carousel in the
> first attempt[1] rather than the complete list, but I reverted for the
> purpose to achieve the general agreement to apply the skin
With as many projects as we have the carousel isn't very usable as it takes too long to cycle. With the sidebar I don't think you really need that.
Ralph
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Re: [site] yet another proposal on how to restyle the commons site
Posted by Simone Tripodi <si...@apache.org>.
Hi Ralph!
> Actually, I am not sure that the full listing of the components on the main page even needs to be there. If you click on "components" in the left nav you get pretty much the same thing. So I would prefer to see a much shorter section on Commons Proper, perhaps with the same link in that text.
>
That is indeed the reason why I originally put the carousel in the
first attempt[1] rather than the complete list, but I reverted for the
purpose to achieve the general agreement to apply the skin
> Is this work in preparation for moving to the CMS?
That is the idea - new way to publish the site, new skin.
all the best,
-Simo
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On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 6:30 PM, Ralph Goers <ra...@dslextreme.com> wrote:
>
> Ralph
>
>
> On Aug 31, 2012, at 3:28 AM, sebb wrote:
>
>> On 31 August 2012 10:09, Simone Tripodi <si...@apache.org> wrote:
>>> Hi again,
>>>
>>> Thanks to Christian Grobmeier, we also added the responsive bootstrap css.
>>>
>>> I re-uploaded the site, can you please have a look at it?
>>> TIA,
>>> -Simo
>>
>> Looks much better now; seems to contain all the required elements, and
>> they are easier to find than on the horizontal menu.
>> Compared with the present design, it does look cleaner.
>>
>> However the pages are considerably longer; it's a pity that the lhs
>> menu does not fit on the first page.
>>
>> I'm not sure it makes sense to add the Google and Facebook links, but
>> if they are present, they should both have hover text; only Google
>> does at present.
>> Also, the ApacheCon advert is more important to the ASF, and should
>> appear before them.
>> Can they appear horizontally aligned?
>>
>> The text font on the Commons logo now looks out of place (and the TM
>> is missing - wrong file used?), so at some point it would be sensible
>> to redo it.
>>
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Re: [site] yet another proposal on how to restyle the commons site
Posted by Ralph Goers <ra...@dslextreme.com>.
Actually, I am not sure that the full listing of the components on the main page even needs to be there. If you click on "components" in the left nav you get pretty much the same thing. So I would prefer to see a much shorter section on Commons Proper, perhaps with the same link in that text.
Is this work in preparation for moving to the CMS?
Ralph
On Aug 31, 2012, at 3:28 AM, sebb wrote:
> On 31 August 2012 10:09, Simone Tripodi <si...@apache.org> wrote:
>> Hi again,
>>
>> Thanks to Christian Grobmeier, we also added the responsive bootstrap css.
>>
>> I re-uploaded the site, can you please have a look at it?
>> TIA,
>> -Simo
>
> Looks much better now; seems to contain all the required elements, and
> they are easier to find than on the horizontal menu.
> Compared with the present design, it does look cleaner.
>
> However the pages are considerably longer; it's a pity that the lhs
> menu does not fit on the first page.
>
> I'm not sure it makes sense to add the Google and Facebook links, but
> if they are present, they should both have hover text; only Google
> does at present.
> Also, the ApacheCon advert is more important to the ASF, and should
> appear before them.
> Can they appear horizontally aligned?
>
> The text font on the Commons logo now looks out of place (and the TM
> is missing - wrong file used?), so at some point it would be sensible
> to redo it.
>
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Re: [site] yet another proposal on how to restyle the commons site
Posted by sebb <se...@gmail.com>.
On 31 August 2012 10:09, Simone Tripodi <si...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi again,
>
> Thanks to Christian Grobmeier, we also added the responsive bootstrap css.
>
> I re-uploaded the site, can you please have a look at it?
> TIA,
> -Simo
Looks much better now; seems to contain all the required elements, and
they are easier to find than on the horizontal menu.
Compared with the present design, it does look cleaner.
However the pages are considerably longer; it's a pity that the lhs
menu does not fit on the first page.
I'm not sure it makes sense to add the Google and Facebook links, but
if they are present, they should both have hover text; only Google
does at present.
Also, the ApacheCon advert is more important to the ASF, and should
appear before them.
Can they appear horizontally aligned?
The text font on the Commons logo now looks out of place (and the TM
is missing - wrong file used?), so at some point it would be sensible
to redo it.
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Re: [site] yet another proposal on how to restyle the commons site
Posted by Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
and just to say it clearly: i am very much +1 to finally add this skin.
Cheers
Christian
On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 11:09 AM, Simone Tripodi
<si...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi again,
>
> Thanks to Christian Grobmeier, we also added the responsive bootstrap css.
>
> I re-uploaded the site, can you please have a look at it?
> TIA,
> -Simo
>
> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
> http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/
> http://twitter.com/simonetripodi
> http://www.99soft.org/
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 8:58 AM, Simone Tripodi
> <si...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>> I've uploaded a screenshot of that page taken with my mobile [1].
>>>> Doesn't look to well, anything you can do about that?
>>
>> :(
>>
>>> Step 1: Make "Welcome to the Apache Commons" half its current font size.
>>
>> yup, I have no more bullets in my gun that the one Gary suggested, I
>> just re-uploaded the site[1]
>>
>> How does it look?
>> TIA,
>> -Simo
>>
>> [1] http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/commons-sidebar/
>>
>> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
>> http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/
>> http://twitter.com/simonetripodi
>> http://www.99soft.org/
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Re: [site] yet another proposal on how to restyle the commons site
Posted by Simone Tripodi <si...@apache.org>.
Hi Bene,
please ignore the topbar navigator, sounds it won't in consideration.
danke,
-Simo
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On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 2:51 PM, Benedikt Ritter <be...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi again,
>
> on my mobile, the top navi does not fit into the horizontal space
> causing a line break. That will display "Components" and "Sandbox"
> above the header of the side bar. I'll upload a screenshot as soon as
> I'm at home.
>
> Great work, Simo!
>
> Benedikt
>
> PS: I liked the side scrolling widget from the first version :-)
>
> 2012/8/31 Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com>:
>> So much better on the iPhone! Thanks Simo. I agree with Sebb's
>> comments. Well done.
>>
>> Gary
>>
>> On Aug 31, 2012, at 5:09, Simone Tripodi <si...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi again,
>>>
>>> Thanks to Christian Grobmeier, we also added the responsive bootstrap css.
>>>
>>> I re-uploaded the site, can you please have a look at it?
>>> TIA,
>>> -Simo
>>>
>>> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
>>> http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/
>>> http://twitter.com/simonetripodi
>>> http://www.99soft.org/
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 8:58 AM, Simone Tripodi
>>> <si...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>> I've uploaded a screenshot of that page taken with my mobile [1].
>>>>>> Doesn't look to well, anything you can do about that?
>>>>
>>>> :(
>>>>
>>>>> Step 1: Make "Welcome to the Apache Commons" half its current font size.
>>>>
>>>> yup, I have no more bullets in my gun that the one Gary suggested, I
>>>> just re-uploaded the site[1]
>>>>
>>>> How does it look?
>>>> TIA,
>>>> -Simo
>>>>
>>>> [1] http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/commons-sidebar/
>>>>
>>>> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
>>>> http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/
>>>> http://twitter.com/simonetripodi
>>>> http://www.99soft.org/
>>>
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Re: [site] yet another proposal on how to restyle the commons site
Posted by Benedikt Ritter <be...@gmail.com>.
Hi again,
on my mobile, the top navi does not fit into the horizontal space
causing a line break. That will display "Components" and "Sandbox"
above the header of the side bar. I'll upload a screenshot as soon as
I'm at home.
Great work, Simo!
Benedikt
PS: I liked the side scrolling widget from the first version :-)
2012/8/31 Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com>:
> So much better on the iPhone! Thanks Simo. I agree with Sebb's
> comments. Well done.
>
> Gary
>
> On Aug 31, 2012, at 5:09, Simone Tripodi <si...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi again,
>>
>> Thanks to Christian Grobmeier, we also added the responsive bootstrap css.
>>
>> I re-uploaded the site, can you please have a look at it?
>> TIA,
>> -Simo
>>
>> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
>> http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/
>> http://twitter.com/simonetripodi
>> http://www.99soft.org/
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 8:58 AM, Simone Tripodi
>> <si...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>> I've uploaded a screenshot of that page taken with my mobile [1].
>>>>> Doesn't look to well, anything you can do about that?
>>>
>>> :(
>>>
>>>> Step 1: Make "Welcome to the Apache Commons" half its current font size.
>>>
>>> yup, I have no more bullets in my gun that the one Gary suggested, I
>>> just re-uploaded the site[1]
>>>
>>> How does it look?
>>> TIA,
>>> -Simo
>>>
>>> [1] http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/commons-sidebar/
>>>
>>> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
>>> http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/
>>> http://twitter.com/simonetripodi
>>> http://www.99soft.org/
>>
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Re: [site] yet another proposal on how to restyle the commons site
Posted by Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com>.
So much better on the iPhone! Thanks Simo. I agree with Sebb's
comments. Well done.
Gary
On Aug 31, 2012, at 5:09, Simone Tripodi <si...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi again,
>
> Thanks to Christian Grobmeier, we also added the responsive bootstrap css.
>
> I re-uploaded the site, can you please have a look at it?
> TIA,
> -Simo
>
> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
> http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/
> http://twitter.com/simonetripodi
> http://www.99soft.org/
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 8:58 AM, Simone Tripodi
> <si...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>> I've uploaded a screenshot of that page taken with my mobile [1].
>>>> Doesn't look to well, anything you can do about that?
>>
>> :(
>>
>>> Step 1: Make "Welcome to the Apache Commons" half its current font size.
>>
>> yup, I have no more bullets in my gun that the one Gary suggested, I
>> just re-uploaded the site[1]
>>
>> How does it look?
>> TIA,
>> -Simo
>>
>> [1] http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/commons-sidebar/
>>
>> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
>> http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/
>> http://twitter.com/simonetripodi
>> http://www.99soft.org/
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Re: [site] yet another proposal on how to restyle the commons site
Posted by Simone Tripodi <si...@apache.org>.
Hi again,
Thanks to Christian Grobmeier, we also added the responsive bootstrap css.
I re-uploaded the site, can you please have a look at it?
TIA,
-Simo
http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/
http://twitter.com/simonetripodi
http://www.99soft.org/
On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 8:58 AM, Simone Tripodi
<si...@apache.org> wrote:
>>> I've uploaded a screenshot of that page taken with my mobile [1].
>>> Doesn't look to well, anything you can do about that?
>
> :(
>
>> Step 1: Make "Welcome to the Apache Commons" half its current font size.
>
> yup, I have no more bullets in my gun that the one Gary suggested, I
> just re-uploaded the site[1]
>
> How does it look?
> TIA,
> -Simo
>
> [1] http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/commons-sidebar/
>
> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
> http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/
> http://twitter.com/simonetripodi
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Re: [site] yet another proposal on how to restyle the commons site
Posted by Simone Tripodi <si...@apache.org>.
>> I've uploaded a screenshot of that page taken with my mobile [1].
>> Doesn't look to well, anything you can do about that?
:(
> Step 1: Make "Welcome to the Apache Commons" half its current font size.
yup, I have no more bullets in my gun that the one Gary suggested, I
just re-uploaded the site[1]
How does it look?
TIA,
-Simo
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Re: [site] yet another proposal on how to restyle the commons site
Posted by Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com>.
Step 1: Make "Welcome to the Apache Commons" half its current font size.
G
On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 4:24 PM, Benedikt Ritter <be...@gmail.com>wrote:
> 2012/8/30 Simone Tripodi <si...@apache.org>:
> > Hi all!
> >
> >>> - I find the slider gadget thingy disconcerting. I do not know that it
> will
> >>> slide, I thought it was a bug and that the other components were
> missing
> >>> (see above). Then, poof!, it does slide. I would not use it so
> prominently
> >>> if at all.
> >
> > table restored, more work on the carousel could improve the l'n'f IMHO
> > but let's back to the roots first :)
> >
> >>> - Does not look good on my iPhone. The main issue is that the top menu
> bar
> >>> takes up a third of the screen. We need to consider mobile IMO.
> >>
> >> Agreed.
> >
> > unfortunately Twitter Bootstrap just provides a responsive design wich
> > adapts the "desktop" components to mobile phones - and they announced
> > in the ML they don't have any plan (yet?) to write aport on the
> > mobile.
> >
> > Fortunately, I can still provide you a sample with the "classic"
> > sidebar menu navigation - as shown in[1] - which should adapt better
> > on mobile phones. Can you please verify it?
> > TIA!
> >
>
> Hi Simo,
>
> I've uploaded a screenshot of that page taken with my mobile [1].
> Doesn't look to well, anything you can do about that?
>
> Benedikt
>
> [1] https://dl.dropbox.com/u/3058827/fluido-commons-on-iPhone.PNG
>
> >> There's no Apache or Apache Commons logo, presumably because these use
> >> relative links, and the images are missing.
> >> Could you add the directory so we can see what it would look like?
> >>
> >
> > done!
> >
> > At that point I'll be working on applying the skin on a component to
> > see how it looks like to show you, hopefully we will find an agreement
> > and definitively upgrade the commons site :P
> >
> > Have a nice day, all the best!
> > -Simo
> >
> > [1] http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/commons-sidebar/index.html
> >
> > http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
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Re: [site] yet another proposal on how to restyle the commons site
Posted by Benedikt Ritter <be...@gmail.com>.
2012/8/30 Simone Tripodi <si...@apache.org>:
> Hi all!
>
>>> - I find the slider gadget thingy disconcerting. I do not know that it will
>>> slide, I thought it was a bug and that the other components were missing
>>> (see above). Then, poof!, it does slide. I would not use it so prominently
>>> if at all.
>
> table restored, more work on the carousel could improve the l'n'f IMHO
> but let's back to the roots first :)
>
>>> - Does not look good on my iPhone. The main issue is that the top menu bar
>>> takes up a third of the screen. We need to consider mobile IMO.
>>
>> Agreed.
>
> unfortunately Twitter Bootstrap just provides a responsive design wich
> adapts the "desktop" components to mobile phones - and they announced
> in the ML they don't have any plan (yet?) to write aport on the
> mobile.
>
> Fortunately, I can still provide you a sample with the "classic"
> sidebar menu navigation - as shown in[1] - which should adapt better
> on mobile phones. Can you please verify it?
> TIA!
>
Hi Simo,
I've uploaded a screenshot of that page taken with my mobile [1].
Doesn't look to well, anything you can do about that?
Benedikt
[1] https://dl.dropbox.com/u/3058827/fluido-commons-on-iPhone.PNG
>> There's no Apache or Apache Commons logo, presumably because these use
>> relative links, and the images are missing.
>> Could you add the directory so we can see what it would look like?
>>
>
> done!
>
> At that point I'll be working on applying the skin on a component to
> see how it looks like to show you, hopefully we will find an agreement
> and definitively upgrade the commons site :P
>
> Have a nice day, all the best!
> -Simo
>
> [1] http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/commons-sidebar/index.html
>
> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
> http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/
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Re: [site] yet another proposal on how to restyle the commons site
Posted by Simone Tripodi <si...@apache.org>.
as a side note: I think we could upgrade also the commons logo itself
starting from an svg the ASF made available[1], unfortunately I am not
good with inkscape... :(
best,
-Simo
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On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 9:33 PM, Simone Tripodi
<si...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi all!
>
>>> - I find the slider gadget thingy disconcerting. I do not know that it will
>>> slide, I thought it was a bug and that the other components were missing
>>> (see above). Then, poof!, it does slide. I would not use it so prominently
>>> if at all.
>
> table restored, more work on the carousel could improve the l'n'f IMHO
> but let's back to the roots first :)
>
>>> - Does not look good on my iPhone. The main issue is that the top menu bar
>>> takes up a third of the screen. We need to consider mobile IMO.
>>
>> Agreed.
>
> unfortunately Twitter Bootstrap just provides a responsive design wich
> adapts the "desktop" components to mobile phones - and they announced
> in the ML they don't have any plan (yet?) to write aport on the
> mobile.
>
> Fortunately, I can still provide you a sample with the "classic"
> sidebar menu navigation - as shown in[1] - which should adapt better
> on mobile phones. Can you please verify it?
> TIA!
>
>> There's no Apache or Apache Commons logo, presumably because these use
>> relative links, and the images are missing.
>> Could you add the directory so we can see what it would look like?
>>
>
> done!
>
> At that point I'll be working on applying the skin on a component to
> see how it looks like to show you, hopefully we will find an agreement
> and definitively upgrade the commons site :P
>
> Have a nice day, all the best!
> -Simo
>
> [1] http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/commons-sidebar/index.html
>
> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
> http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/
> http://twitter.com/simonetripodi
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Re: [site] yet another proposal on how to restyle the commons site
Posted by sebb <se...@gmail.com>.
On 30 August 2012 20:33, Simone Tripodi <si...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi all!
>
>>> - I find the slider gadget thingy disconcerting. I do not know that it will
>>> slide, I thought it was a bug and that the other components were missing
>>> (see above). Then, poof!, it does slide. I would not use it so prominently
>>> if at all.
>
> table restored, more work on the carousel could improve the l'n'f IMHO
> but let's back to the roots first :)
>
>>> - Does not look good on my iPhone. The main issue is that the top menu bar
>>> takes up a third of the screen. We need to consider mobile IMO.
>>
>> Agreed.
>
> unfortunately Twitter Bootstrap just provides a responsive design wich
> adapts the "desktop" components to mobile phones - and they announced
> in the ML they don't have any plan (yet?) to write aport on the
> mobile.
>
> Fortunately, I can still provide you a sample with the "classic"
> sidebar menu navigation - as shown in[1] - which should adapt better
> on mobile phones. Can you please verify it?
Looks fine on my Android phone using the default browser.
Works well to have sidebar menu because one can shift the page across,
and then scroll the content.
Not so good using Opera Mini, but that is probably an issue with their server.
Also looks much better on my laptop.
> TIA!
>
>> There's no Apache or Apache Commons logo, presumably because these use
>> relative links, and the images are missing.
>> Could you add the directory so we can see what it would look like?
>>
>
> done!
>
> At that point I'll be working on applying the skin on a component to
> see how it looks like to show you, hopefully we will find an agreement
> and definitively upgrade the commons site :P
>
> Have a nice day, all the best!
> -Simo
>
> [1] http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/commons-sidebar/index.html
>
> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
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Re: [site] yet another proposal on how to restyle the commons site
Posted by Simone Tripodi <si...@apache.org>.
Hi all!
>> - I find the slider gadget thingy disconcerting. I do not know that it will
>> slide, I thought it was a bug and that the other components were missing
>> (see above). Then, poof!, it does slide. I would not use it so prominently
>> if at all.
table restored, more work on the carousel could improve the l'n'f IMHO
but let's back to the roots first :)
>> - Does not look good on my iPhone. The main issue is that the top menu bar
>> takes up a third of the screen. We need to consider mobile IMO.
>
> Agreed.
unfortunately Twitter Bootstrap just provides a responsive design wich
adapts the "desktop" components to mobile phones - and they announced
in the ML they don't have any plan (yet?) to write aport on the
mobile.
Fortunately, I can still provide you a sample with the "classic"
sidebar menu navigation - as shown in[1] - which should adapt better
on mobile phones. Can you please verify it?
TIA!
> There's no Apache or Apache Commons logo, presumably because these use
> relative links, and the images are missing.
> Could you add the directory so we can see what it would look like?
>
done!
At that point I'll be working on applying the skin on a component to
see how it looks like to show you, hopefully we will find an agreement
and definitively upgrade the commons site :P
Have a nice day, all the best!
-Simo
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Re: [site] yet another proposal on how to restyle the commons site
Posted by sebb <se...@gmail.com>.
On 30 August 2012 15:34, Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Well done Simo!
>
> I have a couple of issues though:
>
> - The main page should, like today, give you a table of the active (aka
> proper) components.
> - I find the slider gadget thingy disconcerting. I do not know that it will
> slide, I thought it was a bug and that the other components were missing
> (see above). Then, poof!, it does slide. I would not use it so prominently
> if at all.
> - Does not look good on my iPhone. The main issue is that the top menu bar
> takes up a third of the screen. We need to consider mobile IMO.
Agreed.
Also, the current event looks wrong in the page footer. Not sure it
makes sense for the built-by Maven logo to be there either.
There's no Apache or Apache Commons logo, presumably because these use
relative links, and the images are missing.
Could you add the directory so we can see what it would look like?
The drop-down heading "External Links" should be renamed to "Apache
Links", or possibly flattened into direct links.
The top menu bar extends across the whole page, but the body does not.
This causes problems on mobile devices.
I agree it's difficult to read body text that extends across the whole
page, but there is now a lot of space either side that could be used
perhaps for logos or other items.
> Thank you and keep up the good work!
>
> Gary
>
> On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 9:52 AM, Simone Tripodi <si...@apache.org>wrote:
>
>> Hi all guys,
>>
>> new Apache Maven Fluido Skin is gonna be released soon, I started
>> experimenting locally how the _main_ commons site would look alike if
>> the new skin would be applied (with some modifications): voilà[1] :)
>>
>> If you think that putting more effort on it would worth, I am glad to
>> continue doing more work on applying also to a component site (with
>> different layout), publish to my local ASF space, and see the result -
>> OTOH I'll become definitively silent and won't bother on that topic
>> anymore :)
>>
>> WDYT?
>> Many thanks in advance, all the best!
>> -Simo
>>
>> [1] http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/commons/index.html
>>
>> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
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Re: [site] yet another proposal on how to restyle the commons site
Posted by Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com>.
Well done Simo!
I have a couple of issues though:
- The main page should, like today, give you a table of the active (aka
proper) components.
- I find the slider gadget thingy disconcerting. I do not know that it will
slide, I thought it was a bug and that the other components were missing
(see above). Then, poof!, it does slide. I would not use it so prominently
if at all.
- Does not look good on my iPhone. The main issue is that the top menu bar
takes up a third of the screen. We need to consider mobile IMO.
Thank you and keep up the good work!
Gary
On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 9:52 AM, Simone Tripodi <si...@apache.org>wrote:
> Hi all guys,
>
> new Apache Maven Fluido Skin is gonna be released soon, I started
> experimenting locally how the _main_ commons site would look alike if
> the new skin would be applied (with some modifications): voilà[1] :)
>
> If you think that putting more effort on it would worth, I am glad to
> continue doing more work on applying also to a component site (with
> different layout), publish to my local ASF space, and see the result -
> OTOH I'll become definitively silent and won't bother on that topic
> anymore :)
>
> WDYT?
> Many thanks in advance, all the best!
> -Simo
>
> [1] http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/commons/index.html
>
> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
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Re: [site] yet another proposal on how to restyle the commons site
Posted by Olivier Lamy <ol...@apache.org>.
2012/8/30 Olivier Lamy <ol...@apache.org>:
> Hi,
>
> 2012/8/30 Simone Tripodi <si...@apache.org>:
>> Salut Luc,
>>
>>> These are good news. Would we be able with this setting to go to svnpubsub?
>>
>> yes they will work, skin and SCM publishing are unrelated stuff -
>> Olivier Lamy, which is also commons committer, already did the job for
>> Apache DirectMemory via a new mvn plugin called scm-publish, hopefully
>> we can provide us a guideline.
>>
>> I will invite him to publicly explain us how to manage the SvnPubSub.
> Yup this plugin works (and you can simply use as today mvn site-deploy
> for a single module build :-) )
> I tested that for directmemory.a.o and archiva.a.o
> Note the archiva is a bit more complicated as it included more than
> one reactor but some sub site.
> But in the commons case I would recommend something similar we are
> testing for maven site
> Note this site include a lot of sub site (versionned plugins
> documentation, shared components, scm etc...)
> But if using the plugin for svnsubpub this means checkout too much
> content for just deploying a plugin site.
> See
> olamy@minotaur:~$ du -sh /www/maven.apache.org
> 6.3G /www/maven.apache.org
> olamy@minotaur:~$ du -sh /www/commons.apache.org
> 2.3G /www/commons.apache.org
>
> So we are trying a mixed solution :-) (branch:
> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/site/branches/INFRA-4466/trunk/).
> The main site is build tru cms (a buildbot job run maven site plugin
> and push content then we can publish to live:
> http://maventest.apache.org).
> The sub sites are deployed using the scmpub sub plugin. To avoid
> pubsub to delete those sub parts (because there are not generated via
> buildbot job), we worked with infra for configuring subpath to not
> delete in a file called expath.txt
> (http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/site/branches/INFRA-4466/trunk/content/resources/extpaths.txt)
>
> This plugin is in maven sandbox
> (http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/sandbox/trunk/plugins/maven-scm-publish-plugin/).
Just moved out of sandbox:
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/plugins/trunk/maven-scm-publish-plugin/
> Quick explanation of how that works:
> * checkout (by default) or update of the target svnpub path to a local directory
> * list all files from the original and the new deployed site directory
> * compare both content
> * scm add for new files, scm delete for deleted files
> * copy files from deployed site directory to directory with checkout
> content (fix possible line ending issues)
> * checkin
> * et voilà
>
> I'm satisfied by how that works today :-) I will probably release a
> first version next week (as I need that for releasing archiva) before
> I will test that works with github for gh pages site.
>
> Let me know if you need more details.
>
>>
>> Thanks!
>> -Simo
>>
>> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
>> http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/
>> http://twitter.com/simonetripodi
>> http://www.99soft.org/
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Re: [site] yet another proposal on how to restyle the commons site
Posted by Olivier Lamy <ol...@apache.org>.
Hi,
2012/8/30 Simone Tripodi <si...@apache.org>:
> Salut Luc,
>
>> These are good news. Would we be able with this setting to go to svnpubsub?
>
> yes they will work, skin and SCM publishing are unrelated stuff -
> Olivier Lamy, which is also commons committer, already did the job for
> Apache DirectMemory via a new mvn plugin called scm-publish, hopefully
> we can provide us a guideline.
>
> I will invite him to publicly explain us how to manage the SvnPubSub.
Yup this plugin works (and you can simply use as today mvn site-deploy
for a single module build :-) )
I tested that for directmemory.a.o and archiva.a.o
Note the archiva is a bit more complicated as it included more than
one reactor but some sub site.
But in the commons case I would recommend something similar we are
testing for maven site
Note this site include a lot of sub site (versionned plugins
documentation, shared components, scm etc...)
But if using the plugin for svnsubpub this means checkout too much
content for just deploying a plugin site.
See
olamy@minotaur:~$ du -sh /www/maven.apache.org
6.3G /www/maven.apache.org
olamy@minotaur:~$ du -sh /www/commons.apache.org
2.3G /www/commons.apache.org
So we are trying a mixed solution :-) (branch:
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/site/branches/INFRA-4466/trunk/).
The main site is build tru cms (a buildbot job run maven site plugin
and push content then we can publish to live:
http://maventest.apache.org).
The sub sites are deployed using the scmpub sub plugin. To avoid
pubsub to delete those sub parts (because there are not generated via
buildbot job), we worked with infra for configuring subpath to not
delete in a file called expath.txt
(http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/site/branches/INFRA-4466/trunk/content/resources/extpaths.txt)
This plugin is in maven sandbox
(http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/sandbox/trunk/plugins/maven-scm-publish-plugin/).
Quick explanation of how that works:
* checkout (by default) or update of the target svnpub path to a local directory
* list all files from the original and the new deployed site directory
* compare both content
* scm add for new files, scm delete for deleted files
* copy files from deployed site directory to directory with checkout
content (fix possible line ending issues)
* checkin
* et voilà
I'm satisfied by how that works today :-) I will probably release a
first version next week (as I need that for releasing archiva) before
I will test that works with github for gh pages site.
Let me know if you need more details.
>
> Thanks!
> -Simo
>
> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
> http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/
> http://twitter.com/simonetripodi
> http://www.99soft.org/
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Re: [site] yet another proposal on how to restyle the commons site
Posted by Simone Tripodi <si...@apache.org>.
Salut Luc,
> These are good news. Would we be able with this setting to go to svnpubsub?
yes they will work, skin and SCM publishing are unrelated stuff -
Olivier Lamy, which is also commons committer, already did the job for
Apache DirectMemory via a new mvn plugin called scm-publish, hopefully
we can provide us a guideline.
I will invite him to publicly explain us how to manage the SvnPubSub.
Thanks!
-Simo
http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/
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Re: [site] yet another proposal on how to restyle the commons site
Posted by Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com>.
On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 4:13 PM, Luc Maisonobe <Lu...@free.fr> wrote:
> Le 30/08/2012 15:52, Simone Tripodi a écrit :
>> Hi all guys,
>>
>> new Apache Maven Fluido Skin is gonna be released soon, I started
>> experimenting locally how the _main_ commons site would look alike if
>> the new skin would be applied (with some modifications): voilà[1] :)
>>
>> If you think that putting more effort on it would worth, I am glad to
>> continue doing more work on applying also to a component site (with
>> different layout), publish to my local ASF space, and see the result -
>> OTOH I'll become definitively silent and won't bother on that topic
>> anymore :)
>>
>> WDYT?
>
> These are good news. Would we be able with this setting to go to svnpubsub?
If we would implement it the way like we did in Logging, then yes.
Basically we would then generate the site locally, copy the html to
another svn repository and commit it. We would be independent of the
build system.
Cheers
Christian
> Luc
>
>> Many thanks in advance, all the best!
>> -Simo
>>
>> [1] http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/commons/index.html
>>
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>> http://twitter.com/simonetripodi
>> http://www.99soft.org/
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Re: [site] yet another proposal on how to restyle the commons site
Posted by Luc Maisonobe <Lu...@free.fr>.
Le 30/08/2012 15:52, Simone Tripodi a écrit :
> Hi all guys,
>
> new Apache Maven Fluido Skin is gonna be released soon, I started
> experimenting locally how the _main_ commons site would look alike if
> the new skin would be applied (with some modifications): voilà[1] :)
>
> If you think that putting more effort on it would worth, I am glad to
> continue doing more work on applying also to a component site (with
> different layout), publish to my local ASF space, and see the result -
> OTOH I'll become definitively silent and won't bother on that topic
> anymore :)
>
> WDYT?
These are good news. Would we be able with this setting to go to svnpubsub?
Luc
> Many thanks in advance, all the best!
> -Simo
>
> [1] http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/commons/index.html
>
> http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/
> http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/
> http://twitter.com/simonetripodi
> http://www.99soft.org/
>
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