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Posted to user@shale.apache.org by Carl Sziebert <ca...@gmail.com> on 2006/07/19 23:38:14 UTC
Remoting
Hello all:
Let me preface my message with this: I am relatively new to Shale and
the remoting capabilities it has to offer. I am curious to understand
the functionality better. I'd like to know if it is possible to pull
in the contents of a JSP in as part of the response. If so, can the
JSP have JSF tags in it and how would I go about this? I have a
backing bean defined in my config file as
<managed-bean-name>remoting$cartHandler</managed-bean-name> and am
successfully calling the addItem method. (ex:
sendRequest("/concierge/dynamic/remoting$cartHandler/addItem.jsf?hotelId="
+ escape(id), cartHandlerCallback); ) If this is possible, I am
assuming that I'll still have to call context.responseComplete(),
correct?
Thanks in advance.
Carl
Re: Remoting
Posted by Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org>.
For some reasons I like your stuff :)
On 7/19/06, James Mitchell <jm...@apache.org> wrote:
> Oh that's easy. It's support for DynaBeans as managed beans. I'm
> using them myself with a few extra features that let me use them with
> JSF/Shale (with basic ajax support), Spring/Hibernate, Struts 2 and
> Java 5. I call it
> org.mitchell.DynaActionValidatorSpringTigerRemotedXBean. Only works
> on Mac and Linux right now because the factory class exceeds Windows
> file naming limits.
>
>
> :P
>
> --
> James Mitchell
>
>
>
>
> On Jul 20, 2006, at 12:53 AM, Matthias Wessendorf wrote:
>
> > hehe what is DynaFaces?
> > Now I am more interested :)
> >
> > On 7/19/06, Craig McClanahan <cr...@apache.org> wrote:
> >> On 7/19/06, Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > DynaFaces ?
> >> >
> >> > even google knows nothing about it :)
> >> >
> >> > sounds like my old "friends" DynaActionForm ... :)
> >>
> >>
> >> Sorry ... was thinking of something different. The "avatar" stuff at
> >> jsf-extensions is what I was thinking about.
> >>
> >> Craig
> >>
> >> On 7/19/06, Craig McClanahan <cr...@apache.org> wrote:
> >> > > On 7/19/06, Carl Sziebert <ca...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Hello all:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Let me preface my message with this: I am relatively new to
> >> Shale and
> >> > > > the remoting capabilities it has to offer. I am curious to
> >> understand
> >> > > > the functionality better. I'd like to know if it is
> >> possible to pull
> >> > > > in the contents of a JSP in as part of the response. If so,
> >> can the
> >> > > > JSP have JSF tags in it and how would I go about this? I have a
> >> > > > backing bean defined in my config file as
> >> > > > <managed-bean-name>remoting$cartHandler</managed-bean-name>
> >> and am
> >> > > > successfully calling the addItem method. (ex:
> >> > > >
> >> > sendRequest("/concierge/dynamic/remoting$cartHandler/addItem.jsf?
> >> hotelId="
> >> > > > + escape(id), cartHandlerCallback); ) If this is possible,
> >> I am
> >> > > > assuming that I'll still have to call
> >> context.responseComplete(),
> >> > > > correct?
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > It would be technically feasible to use remoting for this
> >> purpose,
> >> > although
> >> > > it is not a first class use case. The general idea would be
> >> to use the
> >> > "web
> >> > > application resource" mechanism (which is the same thing
> >> you'd use to
> >> > > download a static CSS stylesheet or javascript file, for
> >> > example). Instead
> >> > > of a context-relative URL like:
> >> > >
> >> > > /webapp/foo/bar.css
> >> > >
> >> > > you would use a URL like
> >> > >
> >> > > /webapp/foo/bar.faces
> >> > >
> >> > > (assuming you are using *.faces mapping).
> >> > >
> >> > > That all being said, however, I suspect that Shale Remoting is
> >> not the
> >> > best
> >> > > approach if what you are after is dynamic responses that are
> >> constructed
> >> > > with JSF components. You might want to look at some of the
> >> component
> >> > based
> >> > > solutions that support "partial page refresh" -- the MyFaces
> >> component
> >> > > libraries (including the incubator "Trinidad" library, which was
> >> > originally
> >> > > ADF Faces). Another interesting technology to look at is the
> >> DynaFaces
> >> > > facility that is part of the jsf-extensions[1] library at
> >> java.net.
> >> > >
> >> > > Craig
> >> > >
> >> > > [1] https://jsf-extensions.dev.java.net/
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Thanks in advance.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Carl
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Matthias Wessendorf
> >> >
> >> > further stuff:
> >> > blog: http://jroller.com/page/mwessendorf
> >> > mail: mwessendorf-at-gmail-dot-com
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> > Matthias Wessendorf
> >
> > further stuff:
> > blog: http://jroller.com/page/mwessendorf
> > mail: mwessendorf-at-gmail-dot-com
>
>
--
Matthias Wessendorf
further stuff:
blog: http://jroller.com/page/mwessendorf
mail: mwessendorf-at-gmail-dot-com
Re: Remoting
Posted by James Mitchell <jm...@apache.org>.
Oh that's easy. It's support for DynaBeans as managed beans. I'm
using them myself with a few extra features that let me use them with
JSF/Shale (with basic ajax support), Spring/Hibernate, Struts 2 and
Java 5. I call it
org.mitchell.DynaActionValidatorSpringTigerRemotedXBean. Only works
on Mac and Linux right now because the factory class exceeds Windows
file naming limits.
:P
--
James Mitchell
On Jul 20, 2006, at 12:53 AM, Matthias Wessendorf wrote:
> hehe what is DynaFaces?
> Now I am more interested :)
>
> On 7/19/06, Craig McClanahan <cr...@apache.org> wrote:
>> On 7/19/06, Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > DynaFaces ?
>> >
>> > even google knows nothing about it :)
>> >
>> > sounds like my old "friends" DynaActionForm ... :)
>>
>>
>> Sorry ... was thinking of something different. The "avatar" stuff at
>> jsf-extensions is what I was thinking about.
>>
>> Craig
>>
>> On 7/19/06, Craig McClanahan <cr...@apache.org> wrote:
>> > > On 7/19/06, Carl Sziebert <ca...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > Hello all:
>> > > >
>> > > > Let me preface my message with this: I am relatively new to
>> Shale and
>> > > > the remoting capabilities it has to offer. I am curious to
>> understand
>> > > > the functionality better. I'd like to know if it is
>> possible to pull
>> > > > in the contents of a JSP in as part of the response. If so,
>> can the
>> > > > JSP have JSF tags in it and how would I go about this? I have a
>> > > > backing bean defined in my config file as
>> > > > <managed-bean-name>remoting$cartHandler</managed-bean-name>
>> and am
>> > > > successfully calling the addItem method. (ex:
>> > > >
>> > sendRequest("/concierge/dynamic/remoting$cartHandler/addItem.jsf?
>> hotelId="
>> > > > + escape(id), cartHandlerCallback); ) If this is possible,
>> I am
>> > > > assuming that I'll still have to call
>> context.responseComplete(),
>> > > > correct?
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > It would be technically feasible to use remoting for this
>> purpose,
>> > although
>> > > it is not a first class use case. The general idea would be
>> to use the
>> > "web
>> > > application resource" mechanism (which is the same thing
>> you'd use to
>> > > download a static CSS stylesheet or javascript file, for
>> > example). Instead
>> > > of a context-relative URL like:
>> > >
>> > > /webapp/foo/bar.css
>> > >
>> > > you would use a URL like
>> > >
>> > > /webapp/foo/bar.faces
>> > >
>> > > (assuming you are using *.faces mapping).
>> > >
>> > > That all being said, however, I suspect that Shale Remoting is
>> not the
>> > best
>> > > approach if what you are after is dynamic responses that are
>> constructed
>> > > with JSF components. You might want to look at some of the
>> component
>> > based
>> > > solutions that support "partial page refresh" -- the MyFaces
>> component
>> > > libraries (including the incubator "Trinidad" library, which was
>> > originally
>> > > ADF Faces). Another interesting technology to look at is the
>> DynaFaces
>> > > facility that is part of the jsf-extensions[1] library at
>> java.net.
>> > >
>> > > Craig
>> > >
>> > > [1] https://jsf-extensions.dev.java.net/
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Thanks in advance.
>> > > >
>> > > > Carl
>> > > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Matthias Wessendorf
>> >
>> > further stuff:
>> > blog: http://jroller.com/page/mwessendorf
>> > mail: mwessendorf-at-gmail-dot-com
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Matthias Wessendorf
>
> further stuff:
> blog: http://jroller.com/page/mwessendorf
> mail: mwessendorf-at-gmail-dot-com
Re: Remoting
Posted by Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org>.
hehe what is DynaFaces?
Now I am more interested :)
On 7/19/06, Craig McClanahan <cr...@apache.org> wrote:
> On 7/19/06, Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > DynaFaces ?
> >
> > even google knows nothing about it :)
> >
> > sounds like my old "friends" DynaActionForm ... :)
>
>
> Sorry ... was thinking of something different. The "avatar" stuff at
> jsf-extensions is what I was thinking about.
>
> Craig
>
> On 7/19/06, Craig McClanahan <cr...@apache.org> wrote:
> > > On 7/19/06, Carl Sziebert <ca...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hello all:
> > > >
> > > > Let me preface my message with this: I am relatively new to Shale and
> > > > the remoting capabilities it has to offer. I am curious to understand
> > > > the functionality better. I'd like to know if it is possible to pull
> > > > in the contents of a JSP in as part of the response. If so, can the
> > > > JSP have JSF tags in it and how would I go about this? I have a
> > > > backing bean defined in my config file as
> > > > <managed-bean-name>remoting$cartHandler</managed-bean-name> and am
> > > > successfully calling the addItem method. (ex:
> > > >
> > sendRequest("/concierge/dynamic/remoting$cartHandler/addItem.jsf?hotelId="
> > > > + escape(id), cartHandlerCallback); ) If this is possible, I am
> > > > assuming that I'll still have to call context.responseComplete(),
> > > > correct?
> > >
> > >
> > > It would be technically feasible to use remoting for this purpose,
> > although
> > > it is not a first class use case. The general idea would be to use the
> > "web
> > > application resource" mechanism (which is the same thing you'd use to
> > > download a static CSS stylesheet or javascript file, for
> > example). Instead
> > > of a context-relative URL like:
> > >
> > > /webapp/foo/bar.css
> > >
> > > you would use a URL like
> > >
> > > /webapp/foo/bar.faces
> > >
> > > (assuming you are using *.faces mapping).
> > >
> > > That all being said, however, I suspect that Shale Remoting is not the
> > best
> > > approach if what you are after is dynamic responses that are constructed
> > > with JSF components. You might want to look at some of the component
> > based
> > > solutions that support "partial page refresh" -- the MyFaces component
> > > libraries (including the incubator "Trinidad" library, which was
> > originally
> > > ADF Faces). Another interesting technology to look at is the DynaFaces
> > > facility that is part of the jsf-extensions[1] library at java.net.
> > >
> > > Craig
> > >
> > > [1] https://jsf-extensions.dev.java.net/
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks in advance.
> > > >
> > > > Carl
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Matthias Wessendorf
> >
> > further stuff:
> > blog: http://jroller.com/page/mwessendorf
> > mail: mwessendorf-at-gmail-dot-com
> >
>
>
--
Matthias Wessendorf
further stuff:
blog: http://jroller.com/page/mwessendorf
mail: mwessendorf-at-gmail-dot-com
Re: Remoting
Posted by Craig McClanahan <cr...@apache.org>.
On 7/19/06, Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> DynaFaces ?
>
> even google knows nothing about it :)
>
> sounds like my old "friends" DynaActionForm ... :)
Sorry ... was thinking of something different. The "avatar" stuff at
jsf-extensions is what I was thinking about.
Craig
On 7/19/06, Craig McClanahan <cr...@apache.org> wrote:
> > On 7/19/06, Carl Sziebert <ca...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello all:
> > >
> > > Let me preface my message with this: I am relatively new to Shale and
> > > the remoting capabilities it has to offer. I am curious to understand
> > > the functionality better. I'd like to know if it is possible to pull
> > > in the contents of a JSP in as part of the response. If so, can the
> > > JSP have JSF tags in it and how would I go about this? I have a
> > > backing bean defined in my config file as
> > > <managed-bean-name>remoting$cartHandler</managed-bean-name> and am
> > > successfully calling the addItem method. (ex:
> > >
> sendRequest("/concierge/dynamic/remoting$cartHandler/addItem.jsf?hotelId="
> > > + escape(id), cartHandlerCallback); ) If this is possible, I am
> > > assuming that I'll still have to call context.responseComplete(),
> > > correct?
> >
> >
> > It would be technically feasible to use remoting for this purpose,
> although
> > it is not a first class use case. The general idea would be to use the
> "web
> > application resource" mechanism (which is the same thing you'd use to
> > download a static CSS stylesheet or javascript file, for
> example). Instead
> > of a context-relative URL like:
> >
> > /webapp/foo/bar.css
> >
> > you would use a URL like
> >
> > /webapp/foo/bar.faces
> >
> > (assuming you are using *.faces mapping).
> >
> > That all being said, however, I suspect that Shale Remoting is not the
> best
> > approach if what you are after is dynamic responses that are constructed
> > with JSF components. You might want to look at some of the component
> based
> > solutions that support "partial page refresh" -- the MyFaces component
> > libraries (including the incubator "Trinidad" library, which was
> originally
> > ADF Faces). Another interesting technology to look at is the DynaFaces
> > facility that is part of the jsf-extensions[1] library at java.net.
> >
> > Craig
> >
> > [1] https://jsf-extensions.dev.java.net/
> >
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> > >
> > > Carl
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Matthias Wessendorf
>
> further stuff:
> blog: http://jroller.com/page/mwessendorf
> mail: mwessendorf-at-gmail-dot-com
>
Re: Remoting
Posted by Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org>.
DynaFaces ?
even google knows nothing about it :)
sounds like my old "friends" DynaActionForm ... :)
On 7/19/06, Craig McClanahan <cr...@apache.org> wrote:
> On 7/19/06, Carl Sziebert <ca...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hello all:
> >
> > Let me preface my message with this: I am relatively new to Shale and
> > the remoting capabilities it has to offer. I am curious to understand
> > the functionality better. I'd like to know if it is possible to pull
> > in the contents of a JSP in as part of the response. If so, can the
> > JSP have JSF tags in it and how would I go about this? I have a
> > backing bean defined in my config file as
> > <managed-bean-name>remoting$cartHandler</managed-bean-name> and am
> > successfully calling the addItem method. (ex:
> > sendRequest("/concierge/dynamic/remoting$cartHandler/addItem.jsf?hotelId="
> > + escape(id), cartHandlerCallback); ) If this is possible, I am
> > assuming that I'll still have to call context.responseComplete(),
> > correct?
>
>
> It would be technically feasible to use remoting for this purpose, although
> it is not a first class use case. The general idea would be to use the "web
> application resource" mechanism (which is the same thing you'd use to
> download a static CSS stylesheet or javascript file, for example). Instead
> of a context-relative URL like:
>
> /webapp/foo/bar.css
>
> you would use a URL like
>
> /webapp/foo/bar.faces
>
> (assuming you are using *.faces mapping).
>
> That all being said, however, I suspect that Shale Remoting is not the best
> approach if what you are after is dynamic responses that are constructed
> with JSF components. You might want to look at some of the component based
> solutions that support "partial page refresh" -- the MyFaces component
> libraries (including the incubator "Trinidad" library, which was originally
> ADF Faces). Another interesting technology to look at is the DynaFaces
> facility that is part of the jsf-extensions[1] library at java.net.
>
> Craig
>
> [1] https://jsf-extensions.dev.java.net/
>
>
> Thanks in advance.
> >
> > Carl
> >
>
>
--
Matthias Wessendorf
further stuff:
blog: http://jroller.com/page/mwessendorf
mail: mwessendorf-at-gmail-dot-com
Re: Remoting
Posted by Craig McClanahan <cr...@apache.org>.
On 7/19/06, Carl Sziebert <ca...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hello all:
>
> Let me preface my message with this: I am relatively new to Shale and
> the remoting capabilities it has to offer. I am curious to understand
> the functionality better. I'd like to know if it is possible to pull
> in the contents of a JSP in as part of the response. If so, can the
> JSP have JSF tags in it and how would I go about this? I have a
> backing bean defined in my config file as
> <managed-bean-name>remoting$cartHandler</managed-bean-name> and am
> successfully calling the addItem method. (ex:
> sendRequest("/concierge/dynamic/remoting$cartHandler/addItem.jsf?hotelId="
> + escape(id), cartHandlerCallback); ) If this is possible, I am
> assuming that I'll still have to call context.responseComplete(),
> correct?
It would be technically feasible to use remoting for this purpose, although
it is not a first class use case. The general idea would be to use the "web
application resource" mechanism (which is the same thing you'd use to
download a static CSS stylesheet or javascript file, for example). Instead
of a context-relative URL like:
/webapp/foo/bar.css
you would use a URL like
/webapp/foo/bar.faces
(assuming you are using *.faces mapping).
That all being said, however, I suspect that Shale Remoting is not the best
approach if what you are after is dynamic responses that are constructed
with JSF components. You might want to look at some of the component based
solutions that support "partial page refresh" -- the MyFaces component
libraries (including the incubator "Trinidad" library, which was originally
ADF Faces). Another interesting technology to look at is the DynaFaces
facility that is part of the jsf-extensions[1] library at java.net.
Craig
[1] https://jsf-extensions.dev.java.net/
Thanks in advance.
>
> Carl
>