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[users@httpd] Apache and router
Hi. I have a problem!
I am using Apache along with a software system on a server at a club. The system is accessed over Internet to make bookings. There is a router in between the club LAN and the Internet. There is a static IP address for the server. The first message from the Internet to the club that activates two introductory screens works fine and you will see an example with amended - for security reasons - IP addresses below. The first interaction from the customer, when booking details are sent to the server over Internet, causes the http IP address to change to that of the router after which the booking sequence falls over because the server can no longer be accesed over Internet.
USING WEB ADDRESS
First screen
http://www.xxx.
2ndscreen
http://www.xxx/cgi-bin
3rd screen where problem begins and router IP address is substituted
http://192.168.0.2/cgi-bin/ai
4th screen etc - problem remains
http://192.168.0.2/cgi-bin/ai
USING IP ADDRESS (Amended for security reasons)
First screen
http://86.13.8.7/
2nd screen
http://86.13.8.7/cgi-bin/ai
3rd screen etc
http://192.168.0.2/cgi-bin/ai
My question. Is this an Apache config problem or a Router setting problem or both or neither?
What is the solution?
Thanks for any help
John Tunstall
Re: [users@httpd] Apache and router
Posted by John Tunstall <jo...@btinternet.com>.
Hi . Thanks for the help. There is some other script following the 2nd screen url. I omitted this because I thought it unecessary. cgi-bin is followed by /ai.
Apologies for not including this.
I am still puzzled why the url flips to the IP of the router on the occasion of the sending of a booking request from the user, outside of the router, to the server that is behind the router.
JohnT
----- Original Message -----
From: Steve Swift
To: users@httpd.apache.org
Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2006 2:27 PM
Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Apache and router
Your 2ndscreen URL looks very suspicious; I've never seen /cgi-bin which was not followed by something. Whatever has handled that URL looks like it has sent out a page with a URL containing http://192.168.0.2
On 03/09/06, John Tunstall <jo...@btinternet.com> wrote:
Hi. I have a problem!
I am using Apache along with a software system on a server at a club. The system is accessed over Internet to make bookings. There is a router in between the club LAN and the Internet. There is a static IP address for the server. The first message from the Internet to the club that activates two introductory screens works fine and you will see an example with amended - for security reasons - IP addresses below. The first interaction from the customer, when booking details are sent to the server over Internet, causes the http IP address to change to that of the router after which the booking sequence falls over because the server can no longer be accesed over Internet.
USING WEB ADDRESS
First screen
http://www.xxx.
2ndscreen
http://www.xxx/cgi-bin
3rd screen where problem begins and router IP address is substituted
http://192.168.0.2/cgi-bin/ai
4th screen etc - problem remains
http://192.168.0.2/cgi-bin/ai
USING IP ADDRESS (Amended for security reasons)
First screen
http://86.13.8.7/
2nd screen
http://86.13.8.7/cgi-bin/ai
3rd screen etc
http://192.168.0.2/cgi-bin/ai
My question. Is this an Apache config problem or a Router setting problem or both or neither?
What is the solution?
Thanks for any help
John Tunstall
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Re: [users@httpd] Apache and router
Posted by Steve Swift <st...@gmail.com>.
Your 2ndscreen URL looks very suspicious; I've never seen /cgi-bin which was
not followed by something. Whatever has handled that URL looks like it has
sent out a page with a URL containing http://192.168.0.2
On 03/09/06, John Tunstall <jo...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>
> Hi. I have a problem!
>
> I am using Apache along with a software system on a server at a club. The
> system is accessed over Internet to make bookings. There is a router in
> between the club LAN and the Internet. There is a static IP address for the
> server. The first message from the Internet to the club that activates two
> introductory screens works fine and you will see an example with amended -
> for security reasons - IP addresses below. The first interaction from the
> customer, when booking details are sent to the server over Internet, causes
> the http IP address to change to that of the router after which the booking
> sequence falls over because the server can no longer be accesed over
> Internet.
>
>
> USING WEB ADDRESS
>
> First screen
>
> http://www.xxx.
>
>
>
> 2ndscreen
>
> http://www.xxx/cgi-bin
>
>
>
> 3rd screen where problem begins and router IP address is substituted
>
> http://192.168.0.2/cgi-bin/ai
>
>
>
>
>
> 4th screen etc - problem remains
>
> http://192.168.0.2/cgi-bin/ai
>
>
>
> USING IP ADDRESS (Amended for security reasons)
>
> First screen
>
> http://86.13.8.7/
>
>
>
> 2nd screen
>
> http://86.13.8.7/cgi-bin/ai
>
>
>
> 3rd screen etc
>
> http://192.168.0.2/cgi-bin/ai
>
>
>
> My question. Is this an Apache config problem or a Router setting problem
> or both or neither?
> What is the solution?
>
> Thanks for any help
> John Tunstall
>
--
Steve Swift
http://www.swiftys.org.uk
Re: [users@httpd] Apache and router
Posted by Joost de Heer <sa...@xs4all.nl>.
John Tunstall wrote:
> Thanks again Steve.
> Yes this is where our CGI scripts are stored. But, do you have some ideas
> on the CGI script we can use to instruct Apache on the IP address to be
> used, namely not to use the Router IP but to use the static IP address of
> the server?
What's the value of ServerName in the config for the vhost (or if you
don't use vhosts, in the main config)?
Joost
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Re: [users@httpd] Apache and router
Posted by John Tunstall <jo...@btinternet.com>.
Thanks again Steve.
Yes this is where our CGI scripts are stored. But, do you have some ideas on the CGI script we can use to instruct Apache on the IP address to be used, namely not to use the Router IP but to use the static IP address of the server?
JohnT
----- Original Message -----
From: Steve Swift
To: users@httpd.apache.org
Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 11:15 AM
Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Apache and router
That depends on how your apache is configured. I could make guesses, but that's all they would be.
Look in the configuration of your apache and see if you can find a like similar to this:
ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/ "C:/Program Files/Apache Software Foundation/Apache2.2/cgi-bin/"
This defines where on your system your CGI scripts are stored.
(there's my first guess - that your apache is running under Windows!)
On 04/09/06, John Tunstall <jo...@btinternet.com> wrote:
Hi Steve. Thanks for your help on this.
Do you have an idea what the CGI script is that controls the IP address to be used?
Thanks again.
JohnT
----- Original Message -----
From: Steve Swift
To: users@httpd.apache.org
Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 8:06 AM
Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Apache and router
Well, you will probably have to inspect the CGI script that handles /cgi-bin/ai to see why/if it is returning http://192.168.0.2 amongst its output
If I were to guess, I'd say that the CGI script is trying to determine the address of the server in order to generate URL's that refer to the server. If it did this, then of course it would come up with 192.168.0.2 since that *is* the address of the server.
If your CGI script is doing this then it would be far better if it used relative URL's rather than fully-qualified ones.
On 03/09/06, John Tunstall <jo...@btinternet.com> wrote:
Jim. Thanks for the reply. Thats the problem. The static Ip address is in
the first two urls but the url flips to that of the router as soon as a
booking request is made from the outside to the server behind the router.
Any ideas how Apache being used with Windows XP can be structured to
overcome this and retauin the static IP that you see in the early screens
below? Is it a config problem; a router proble; or what?
Any help gratefully received.
John T
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Walls" <k6...@earthlink.net>
To: < users@httpd.apache.org >
Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2006 5:32 PM
Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Apache and router
> John Tunstall wrote:
>> Hi. I have a problem!
>> I am using Apache along with a software system on a server at a club.
>> The system is accessed over Internet to make bookings. There is a router
>> in between the club LAN and the Internet. There is a static IP address
>> for the server. The first message from the Internet to the club that
>> activates two introductory screens works fine and you will see an example
>> with amended - for security reasons - IP addresses below. The first
>> interaction from the customer, when booking details are sent to the
>> server over Internet, causes the http IP address to change to that of the
>> router after which the booking sequence falls over because the server can
>> no longer be accesed over Internet.
>>
>> USING WEB ADDRESS
>>
>> First screen
>>
>> http://www.xxx.
>>
>>
>> 2ndscreen
>>
>> http://www.xxx/cgi-bin
>>
>>
>> 3rd screen where problem begins and router IP address is substituted
>>
>> http://192.168.0.2/cgi-bin/ai
>>
>
> Sure will cause a problem! You are using an address that can not EVER be
> accessed via the internet. Your 192.168... address is the NATed address
> on your LAN, and is in one of the private IP ranges that works fine on a
> local LAN, but not on the internet. For someone to access your server
> from the internet, they must specify (or follow a link to) a public IP
> address (the WAN side of your router), or a URL that can point to public
> IP address via DNS.
>
> --
> 73
> -------------------------------------
> Jim Walls - K6CCC
> k6ccc@amsat.org
> Ofc: 818-548-4804
> http://home.earthlink.net/~k6ccc
> AMSAT Member 32537 - WSWSS Member 395
>
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Re: [users@httpd] Apache and router
Posted by John Tunstall <jo...@btinternet.com>.
Thanks Steve. Yes it is running under Windows.
JohnT
----- Original Message -----
From: Steve Swift
To: users@httpd.apache.org
Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 11:15 AM
Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Apache and router
That depends on how your apache is configured. I could make guesses, but that's all they would be.
Look in the configuration of your apache and see if you can find a like similar to this:
ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/ "C:/Program Files/Apache Software Foundation/Apache2.2/cgi-bin/"
This defines where on your system your CGI scripts are stored.
(there's my first guess - that your apache is running under Windows!)
On 04/09/06, John Tunstall <jo...@btinternet.com> wrote:
Hi Steve. Thanks for your help on this.
Do you have an idea what the CGI script is that controls the IP address to be used?
Thanks again.
JohnT
----- Original Message -----
From: Steve Swift
To: users@httpd.apache.org
Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 8:06 AM
Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Apache and router
Well, you will probably have to inspect the CGI script that handles /cgi-bin/ai to see why/if it is returning http://192.168.0.2 amongst its output
If I were to guess, I'd say that the CGI script is trying to determine the address of the server in order to generate URL's that refer to the server. If it did this, then of course it would come up with 192.168.0.2 since that *is* the address of the server.
If your CGI script is doing this then it would be far better if it used relative URL's rather than fully-qualified ones.
On 03/09/06, John Tunstall <jo...@btinternet.com> wrote:
Jim. Thanks for the reply. Thats the problem. The static Ip address is in
the first two urls but the url flips to that of the router as soon as a
booking request is made from the outside to the server behind the router.
Any ideas how Apache being used with Windows XP can be structured to
overcome this and retauin the static IP that you see in the early screens
below? Is it a config problem; a router proble; or what?
Any help gratefully received.
John T
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Walls" <k6...@earthlink.net>
To: < users@httpd.apache.org >
Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2006 5:32 PM
Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Apache and router
> John Tunstall wrote:
>> Hi. I have a problem!
>> I am using Apache along with a software system on a server at a club.
>> The system is accessed over Internet to make bookings. There is a router
>> in between the club LAN and the Internet. There is a static IP address
>> for the server. The first message from the Internet to the club that
>> activates two introductory screens works fine and you will see an example
>> with amended - for security reasons - IP addresses below. The first
>> interaction from the customer, when booking details are sent to the
>> server over Internet, causes the http IP address to change to that of the
>> router after which the booking sequence falls over because the server can
>> no longer be accesed over Internet.
>>
>> USING WEB ADDRESS
>>
>> First screen
>>
>> http://www.xxx.
>>
>>
>> 2ndscreen
>>
>> http://www.xxx/cgi-bin
>>
>>
>> 3rd screen where problem begins and router IP address is substituted
>>
>> http://192.168.0.2/cgi-bin/ai
>>
>
> Sure will cause a problem! You are using an address that can not EVER be
> accessed via the internet. Your 192.168... address is the NATed address
> on your LAN, and is in one of the private IP ranges that works fine on a
> local LAN, but not on the internet. For someone to access your server
> from the internet, they must specify (or follow a link to) a public IP
> address (the WAN side of your router), or a URL that can point to public
> IP address via DNS.
>
> --
> 73
> -------------------------------------
> Jim Walls - K6CCC
> k6ccc@amsat.org
> Ofc: 818-548-4804
> http://home.earthlink.net/~k6ccc
> AMSAT Member 32537 - WSWSS Member 395
>
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Re: [users@httpd] Apache and router
Posted by Steve Swift <st...@gmail.com>.
That depends on how your apache is configured. I could make guesses, but
that's all they would be.
Look in the configuration of your apache and see if you can find a like
similar to this:
ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/ "C:/Program Files/Apache Software
Foundation/Apache2.2/cgi-bin/"
This defines where on your system your CGI scripts are stored.
(there's my first guess - that your apache is running under Windows!)
On 04/09/06, John Tunstall <jo...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Steve. Thanks for your help on this.
>
> Do you have an idea what the CGI script is that controls the IP address to
> be used?
>
> Thanks again.
>
> JohnT
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Steve Swift <st...@gmail.com>
> *To:* users@httpd.apache.org
> *Sent:* Monday, September 04, 2006 8:06 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [users@httpd] Apache and router
>
> Well, you will probably have to inspect the CGI script that handles
> /cgi-bin/ai to see why/if it is returning http://192.168.0.2 amongst its
> output
>
> If I were to guess, I'd say that the CGI script is trying to determine the
> address of the server in order to generate URL's that refer to the server.
> If it did this, then of course it would come up with 192.168.0.2 since
> that *is* the address of the server.
>
> If your CGI script is doing this then it would be far better if it used
> relative URL's rather than fully-qualified ones.
>
> On 03/09/06, John Tunstall <jo...@btinternet.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Jim. Thanks for the reply. Thats the problem. The static Ip address is
> > in
> > the first two urls but the url flips to that of the router as soon as a
> > booking request is made from the outside to the server behind the
> > router.
> > Any ideas how Apache being used with Windows XP can be structured to
> > overcome this and retauin the static IP that you see in the early
> > screens
> > below? Is it a config problem; a router proble; or what?
> > Any help gratefully received.
> >
> > John T
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jim Walls" <k6...@earthlink.net>
> > To: <users@httpd.apache.org >
> > Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2006 5:32 PM
> > Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Apache and router
> >
> >
> > > John Tunstall wrote:
> > >> Hi. I have a problem!
> > >> I am using Apache along with a software system on a server at a
> > club.
> > >> The system is accessed over Internet to make bookings. There is a
> > router
> > >> in between the club LAN and the Internet. There is a static IP
> > address
> > >> for the server. The first message from the Internet to the club that
> > >> activates two introductory screens works fine and you will see an
> > example
> > >> with amended - for security reasons - IP addresses below. The first
> > >> interaction from the customer, when booking details are sent to the
> > >> server over Internet, causes the http IP address to change to that of
> > the
> > >> router after which the booking sequence falls over because the server
> > can
> > >> no longer be accesed over Internet.
> > >>
> > >> USING WEB ADDRESS
> > >>
> > >> First screen
> > >>
> > >> http://www.xxx.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> 2ndscreen
> > >>
> > >> http://www.xxx/cgi-bin
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> 3rd screen where problem begins and router IP address is substituted
> > >>
> > >> http://192.168.0.2/cgi-bin/ai
> > >>
> > >
> > > Sure will cause a problem! You are using an address that can not EVER
> > be
> > > accessed via the internet. Your 192.168... address is the NATed
> > address
> > > on your LAN, and is in one of the private IP ranges that works fine on
> > a
> > > local LAN, but not on the internet. For someone to access your server
> > > from the internet, they must specify (or follow a link to) a public IP
> > > address (the WAN side of your router), or a URL that can point to
> > public
> > > IP address via DNS.
> > >
> > > --
> > > 73
> > > -------------------------------------
> > > Jim Walls - K6CCC
> > > k6ccc@amsat.org
> > > Ofc: 818-548-4804
> > > http://home.earthlink.net/~k6ccc <http://home.earthlink.net/%7Ek6ccc>
> > > AMSAT Member 32537 - WSWSS Member 395
> > >
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Re: [users@httpd] Apache and router
Posted by John Tunstall <jo...@btinternet.com>.
Hi Steve. Thanks for your help on this.
Do you have an idea what the CGI script is that controls the IP address to be used?
Thanks again.
JohnT
----- Original Message -----
From: Steve Swift
To: users@httpd.apache.org
Sent: Monday, September 04, 2006 8:06 AM
Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Apache and router
Well, you will probably have to inspect the CGI script that handles /cgi-bin/ai to see why/if it is returning http://192.168.0.2 amongst its output
If I were to guess, I'd say that the CGI script is trying to determine the address of the server in order to generate URL's that refer to the server. If it did this, then of course it would come up with 192.168.0.2 since that *is* the address of the server.
If your CGI script is doing this then it would be far better if it used relative URL's rather than fully-qualified ones.
On 03/09/06, John Tunstall <jo...@btinternet.com> wrote:
Jim. Thanks for the reply. Thats the problem. The static Ip address is in
the first two urls but the url flips to that of the router as soon as a
booking request is made from the outside to the server behind the router.
Any ideas how Apache being used with Windows XP can be structured to
overcome this and retauin the static IP that you see in the early screens
below? Is it a config problem; a router proble; or what?
Any help gratefully received.
John T
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Walls" <k6...@earthlink.net>
To: <users@httpd.apache.org >
Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2006 5:32 PM
Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Apache and router
> John Tunstall wrote:
>> Hi. I have a problem!
>> I am using Apache along with a software system on a server at a club.
>> The system is accessed over Internet to make bookings. There is a router
>> in between the club LAN and the Internet. There is a static IP address
>> for the server. The first message from the Internet to the club that
>> activates two introductory screens works fine and you will see an example
>> with amended - for security reasons - IP addresses below. The first
>> interaction from the customer, when booking details are sent to the
>> server over Internet, causes the http IP address to change to that of the
>> router after which the booking sequence falls over because the server can
>> no longer be accesed over Internet.
>>
>> USING WEB ADDRESS
>>
>> First screen
>>
>> http://www.xxx.
>>
>>
>> 2ndscreen
>>
>> http://www.xxx/cgi-bin
>>
>>
>> 3rd screen where problem begins and router IP address is substituted
>>
>> http://192.168.0.2/cgi-bin/ai
>>
>
> Sure will cause a problem! You are using an address that can not EVER be
> accessed via the internet. Your 192.168... address is the NATed address
> on your LAN, and is in one of the private IP ranges that works fine on a
> local LAN, but not on the internet. For someone to access your server
> from the internet, they must specify (or follow a link to) a public IP
> address (the WAN side of your router), or a URL that can point to public
> IP address via DNS.
>
> --
> 73
> -------------------------------------
> Jim Walls - K6CCC
> k6ccc@amsat.org
> Ofc: 818-548-4804
> http://home.earthlink.net/~k6ccc
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Re: [users@httpd] Apache and router
Posted by Steve Swift <st...@gmail.com>.
Well, you will probably have to inspect the CGI script that handles
/cgi-bin/ai to see why/if it is returning http://192.168.0.2 amongst its
output
If I were to guess, I'd say that the CGI script is trying to determine the
address of the server in order to generate URL's that refer to the server.
If it did this, then of course it would come up with 192.168.0.2 since that
*is* the address of the server.
If your CGI script is doing this then it would be far better if it used
relative URL's rather than fully-qualified ones.
On 03/09/06, John Tunstall <jo...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>
>
> Jim. Thanks for the reply. Thats the problem. The static Ip address is in
> the first two urls but the url flips to that of the router as soon as a
> booking request is made from the outside to the server behind the router.
> Any ideas how Apache being used with Windows XP can be structured to
> overcome this and retauin the static IP that you see in the early screens
> below? Is it a config problem; a router proble; or what?
> Any help gratefully received.
>
> John T
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim Walls" <k6...@earthlink.net>
> To: <us...@httpd.apache.org>
> Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2006 5:32 PM
> Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Apache and router
>
>
> > John Tunstall wrote:
> >> Hi. I have a problem!
> >> I am using Apache along with a software system on a server at a club.
> >> The system is accessed over Internet to make bookings. There is a
> router
> >> in between the club LAN and the Internet. There is a static IP address
> >> for the server. The first message from the Internet to the club that
> >> activates two introductory screens works fine and you will see an
> example
> >> with amended - for security reasons - IP addresses below. The first
> >> interaction from the customer, when booking details are sent to the
> >> server over Internet, causes the http IP address to change to that of
> the
> >> router after which the booking sequence falls over because the server
> can
> >> no longer be accesed over Internet.
> >>
> >> USING WEB ADDRESS
> >>
> >> First screen
> >>
> >> http://www.xxx.
> >>
> >>
> >> 2ndscreen
> >>
> >> http://www.xxx/cgi-bin
> >>
> >>
> >> 3rd screen where problem begins and router IP address is substituted
> >>
> >> http://192.168.0.2/cgi-bin/ai
> >>
> >
> > Sure will cause a problem! You are using an address that can not EVER
> be
> > accessed via the internet. Your 192.168... address is the NATed address
> > on your LAN, and is in one of the private IP ranges that works fine on a
> > local LAN, but not on the internet. For someone to access your server
> > from the internet, they must specify (or follow a link to) a public IP
> > address (the WAN side of your router), or a URL that can point to public
> > IP address via DNS.
> >
> > --
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Re: [users@httpd] Apache and router
Posted by John Tunstall <jo...@btinternet.com>.
Jim. Thanks for the reply. Thats the problem. The static Ip address is in
the first two urls but the url flips to that of the router as soon as a
booking request is made from the outside to the server behind the router.
Any ideas how Apache being used with Windows XP can be structured to
overcome this and retauin the static IP that you see in the early screens
below? Is it a config problem; a router proble; or what?
Any help gratefully received.
John T
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Walls" <k6...@earthlink.net>
To: <us...@httpd.apache.org>
Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2006 5:32 PM
Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Apache and router
> John Tunstall wrote:
>> Hi. I have a problem!
>> I am using Apache along with a software system on a server at a club.
>> The system is accessed over Internet to make bookings. There is a router
>> in between the club LAN and the Internet. There is a static IP address
>> for the server. The first message from the Internet to the club that
>> activates two introductory screens works fine and you will see an example
>> with amended - for security reasons - IP addresses below. The first
>> interaction from the customer, when booking details are sent to the
>> server over Internet, causes the http IP address to change to that of the
>> router after which the booking sequence falls over because the server can
>> no longer be accesed over Internet.
>>
>> USING WEB ADDRESS
>>
>> First screen
>>
>> http://www.xxx.
>>
>>
>> 2ndscreen
>>
>> http://www.xxx/cgi-bin
>>
>>
>> 3rd screen where problem begins and router IP address is substituted
>>
>> http://192.168.0.2/cgi-bin/ai
>>
>
> Sure will cause a problem! You are using an address that can not EVER be
> accessed via the internet. Your 192.168... address is the NATed address
> on your LAN, and is in one of the private IP ranges that works fine on a
> local LAN, but not on the internet. For someone to access your server
> from the internet, they must specify (or follow a link to) a public IP
> address (the WAN side of your router), or a URL that can point to public
> IP address via DNS.
>
> --
> 73
> -------------------------------------
> Jim Walls - K6CCC
> k6ccc@amsat.org
> Ofc: 818-548-4804
> http://home.earthlink.net/~k6ccc
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Re: [users@httpd] Apache and router
Posted by Jim Walls <k6...@earthlink.net>.
John Tunstall wrote:
> Hi. I have a problem!
>
> I am using Apache along with a software system on a server at a club.
> The system is accessed over Internet to make bookings. There is a
> router in between the club LAN and the Internet. There is a static IP
> address for the server. The first message from the Internet to the
> club that activates two introductory screens works fine and you will
> see an example with amended - for security reasons - IP addresses
> below. The first interaction from the customer, when booking details
> are sent to the server over Internet, causes the http IP address to
> change to that of the router after which the booking sequence falls
> over because the server can no longer be accesed over Internet.
>
>
> USING WEB ADDRESS
>
> First screen
>
> http://www.xxx.
>
>
>
> 2ndscreen
>
> http://www.xxx/cgi-bin
>
>
>
> 3rd screen where problem begins and router IP address is substituted
>
> http://192.168.0.2/cgi-bin/ai
>
Sure will cause a problem! You are using an address that can not EVER
be accessed via the internet. Your 192.168... address is the NATed
address on your LAN, and is in one of the private IP ranges that works
fine on a local LAN, but not on the internet. For someone to access
your server from the internet, they must specify (or follow a link to) a
public IP address (the WAN side of your router), or a URL that can point
to public IP address via DNS.
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k6ccc@amsat.org
Ofc: 818-548-4804
http://home.earthlink.net/~k6ccc
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