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Existing Cocoon IDE

Hi,

I am looking for an existing Cocoon/XSLT/Java IDE
or Eclipse plug-in.

My requirements are not high:
- visual editing (and better debugging) of XSLT/XHTML, XML
(forms);
- support of Cocoon 2.0.4;
- support JBoss [3.0.7];
- support Java [JDK 1.4+], including debugging.

Editing sitemaps is very nice but not required.
I am working on enhancing existing Cocoon project,
not doing new projects.

I use Eclipse [with MyEclipse] and XMLSpy.
Maybe XMLSpy plug-in for Eclipse is the answer ?


Thank you in advance,
Oleg.

Re: Existing Cocoon IDE

Posted by Peter Hunsberger <pe...@gmail.com>.
On 8/6/05, Ross Gardler <rg...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > I don't know of an Eclipse plugin which does visual editing of XSLT
> > (perhaps the XMLSpy plugin for Eclipse does) but (X)HTML should be
> > supported by the Web Tools Platform:
> > http://www.eclipse.org/webtools/

Don't know what the capabilities are but one of our guys uses oXygen:

    http://www.oxygenxml.com/

-- 
Peter Hunsberger

Re: Existing Cocoon IDE

Posted by Ross Gardler <rg...@apache.org>.
Andreas Hochsteger wrote:
> Hi Oleg,
> 
> there is Lepido, a new Eclipse Project, which has just released its 
> first milestone.
> See the Mail of Sylvain from yesterday with the title "[ANN] Eclipse 
> Lepido, Tools for Apache Cocoon milestone 1" for more details.
> 
> It includes:
> * A cocoon forms editor
> * A sitemap editor
> 
> For JBoss support you should have a look at the JBoss Eclipse IDE here:
> http://www.jboss.org/products/jbosside
> 
> I don't know of an Eclipse plugin which does visual editing of XSLT 
> (perhaps the XMLSpy plugin for Eclipse does) but (X)HTML should be 
> supported by the Web Tools Platform:
> http://www.eclipse.org/webtools/

Lepido uses webtools and so all the XML/XSL/Schema etc. tools of the WTP 
are available in Ledpio as well.

Ross

Re: Existing Cocoon IDE

Posted by Andreas Hochsteger <e9...@student.tuwien.ac.at>.
Hi Oleg,

there is Lepido, a new Eclipse Project, which has just released its 
first milestone.
See the Mail of Sylvain from yesterday with the title "[ANN] Eclipse 
Lepido, Tools for Apache Cocoon milestone 1" for more details.

It includes:
* A cocoon forms editor
* A sitemap editor

For JBoss support you should have a look at the JBoss Eclipse IDE here:
http://www.jboss.org/products/jbosside

I don't know of an Eclipse plugin which does visual editing of XSLT 
(perhaps the XMLSpy plugin for Eclipse does) but (X)HTML should be 
supported by the Web Tools Platform:
http://www.eclipse.org/webtools/

Hope this helps,
Andreas

Oleg Konovalov schrieb:
> Hi,
> 
> I am looking for an existing Cocoon/XSLT/Java IDE
> or Eclipse plug-in.
> 
> My requirements are not high:
> - visual editing (and better debugging) of XSLT/XHTML, XML
> (forms);



> - support of Cocoon 2.0.4;
> - support JBoss [3.0.7];
> - support Java [JDK 1.4+], including debugging.
> 
> Editing sitemaps is very nice but not required.
> I am working on enhancing existing Cocoon project,
> not doing new projects.
> 
> I use Eclipse [with MyEclipse] and XMLSpy.
> Maybe XMLSpy plug-in for Eclipse is the answer ?
> 
> 
> Thank you in advance,
> Oleg.
> 
> 

Re: Existing Cocoon IDE

Posted by David Perez <cr...@yahoo.es>.
Hi Oleg,

I use Eclipse + Oxygen (plugin for XSTL and XML editing) + the Relax NG 
schema for editing the sitemap.
Look also at the Lepido project (search it by using Google), they have 
recently have made Milestone 1..

Oleg Konovalov schrieb:

>Hi,
>
>I am looking for an existing Cocoon/XSLT/Java IDE
>or Eclipse plug-in.
>
>My requirements are not high:
>- visual editing (and better debugging) of XSLT/XHTML, XML
>(forms);
>- support of Cocoon 2.0.4;
>- support JBoss [3.0.7];
>- support Java [JDK 1.4+], including debugging.
>
>Editing sitemaps is very nice but not required.
>I am working on enhancing existing Cocoon project,
>not doing new projects.
>
>I use Eclipse [with MyEclipse] and XMLSpy.
>Maybe XMLSpy plug-in for Eclipse is the answer ?
>
>
>Thank you in advance,
>Oleg.
>
>  
>

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Re: Existing Cocoon IDE

Posted by Upayavira <uv...@odoko.co.uk>.
bhaskar garikapati wrote:
> hi All,
> Cocoon Assistant is one more good IDE for creating and configuring and
> deployble Cocoon applications.
> check this one out at
> 
> http://www.anyware-tech.com/en/developper/EclipsePlugins/cocoon_assistant.html

Tee hee. I think you'll find this is the project that has gone open 
source as Lepido. I'm pretty sure they're the same thing :-)

Regards, Upayavira

> On 8/7/05, Antonio Gallardo <ag...@agssa.net> wrote:
> 
>>Ross Gardler wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Oleg Konovalov wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Is it easy to install and work with ?
>>>
>>>
>>>Yes, it is, if you know Eclipse and follow the smple install
>>>instructions properly.
>>
>>Yep. If we know how to uncompress files, then it is easy to install! :-)
>>Yesterday, I managed to install it following:
>>http://www.eclipse.org/lepido/download.html
>>
>>I think it is a worth to use lepido, mainly for people starting with cocoon!
>>
>>Best Regards,
>>
>>Antonio Gallardo.
>>
>>
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Re: Existing Cocoon IDE

Posted by bhaskar garikapati <bh...@gmail.com>.
hi All,
Cocoon Assistant is one more good IDE for creating and configuring and
deployble Cocoon applications.
check this one out at

http://www.anyware-tech.com/en/developper/EclipsePlugins/cocoon_assistant.html

this tool gives you the Visual Editors for editing XMAP and XCONF files etc...

cheers,
garikapati

On 8/7/05, Antonio Gallardo <ag...@agssa.net> wrote:
> Ross Gardler wrote:
> 
> > Oleg Konovalov wrote:
> >
> >> Is it easy to install and work with ?
> >
> >
> > Yes, it is, if you know Eclipse and follow the smple install
> > instructions properly.
> 
> Yep. If we know how to uncompress files, then it is easy to install! :-)
> Yesterday, I managed to install it following:
> http://www.eclipse.org/lepido/download.html
> 
> I think it is a worth to use lepido, mainly for people starting with cocoon!
> 
> Best Regards,
> 
> Antonio Gallardo.
> 
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Re: Existing Cocoon IDE

Posted by Antonio Gallardo <ag...@agssa.net>.
Ross Gardler wrote:

> Oleg Konovalov wrote:
>
>> Is it easy to install and work with ?
>
>
> Yes, it is, if you know Eclipse and follow the smple install
> instructions properly.

Yep. If we know how to uncompress files, then it is easy to install! :-)
Yesterday, I managed to install it following: 
http://www.eclipse.org/lepido/download.html

I think it is a worth to use lepido, mainly for people starting with cocoon!

Best Regards,

Antonio Gallardo.


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Re: Existing Cocoon IDE

Posted by Ross Gardler <rg...@apache.org>.
Oleg Konovalov wrote:
> Has anybody tried it ?
> Is it ready for use in production ?  Crashes ?

It's 0.1.0 release. It has bugs but it is usable and the bugs I have
discovered are easy to workaround.

> As I mentioned before, my 2 most serous requirements are:
> - Visual Editing of XSL forms (XHTML);

Not sure what you mean. Lepido has a cforms editor. and WTP provides
many tools for xml, XLST, XHTML etc.

> - debugging of Cocoon XSL forms.

Not yet (is pat of roadmap).

> Is it easy to install and work with ?

Yes, it is, if you know Eclipse and follow the smple install
instructions properly.

Ross



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Re: Existing Cocoon IDE

Posted by Antonio Gallardo <ag...@agssa.net>.
Carlos M. S. Bento Nogueira wrote:

> Honestly i don't think its ready for production use, because it is 
> still in early development stage.
> Lepido is cool for some editing of cforms but don't rely on it for 
> debugging. :((
> But i'm simply a beginner, maybe someone has a diferent opinion.

Not exactly. While it is the initial release under the Eclipse umbrella. 
In fact, lepido exists for more than 1 year (see Initial contribution in 
[1] ). I had the pleasure to see it running on GT2004.

Best Regards,

Antonio Gallardo

[1] http://www.eclipse.org/proposals/eclipse-lepido/index.html

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Re: Existing Cocoon IDE

Posted by "Carlos M. S. Bento Nogueira" <cm...@student.dei.uc.pt>.
Honestly i don't think its ready for production use, because it is still 
in early development stage.
Lepido is cool for some editing of cforms but don't rely on it for 
debugging. :((
But i'm simply a beginner, maybe someone has a diferent opinion.

Greetings,
CarlosN.

On Sat, 6 Aug 2005, Oleg Konovalov wrote:

> Has anybody tried it ?
> Is it ready for use in production ?  Crashes ?
>
> As I mentioned before, my 2 most serous requirements are:
> - Visual Editing of XSL forms (XHTML);
> - debugging of Cocoon XSL forms.
> Is Lepido doing these things ?
>
> Is it easy to install and work with ?
>
> Thank you,
> Oleg.
>
> --- Ross Gardler <rg...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> Oleg Konovalov wrote:
>>> I am looking for an existing Cocoon/XSLT/Java IDE
>>> or Eclipse plug-in.
>>
>> You have amazing timing. The Lepido project announced its
>> first
>> milestone release earlier today. See
>> http://www.eclipse.org/lepido/
>>
>> Ross
>>
>>
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Re: Existing Cocoon IDE

Posted by Oleg Konovalov <ol...@yahoo.com>.
Has anybody tried it ?
Is it ready for use in production ?  Crashes ?

As I mentioned before, my 2 most serous requirements are:
- Visual Editing of XSL forms (XHTML);
- debugging of Cocoon XSL forms.
Is Lepido doing these things ?

Is it easy to install and work with ?

Thank you,
Oleg.

--- Ross Gardler <rg...@apache.org> wrote:

> Oleg Konovalov wrote:
> > I am looking for an existing Cocoon/XSLT/Java IDE
> > or Eclipse plug-in.
> 
> You have amazing timing. The Lepido project announced its
> first 
> milestone release earlier today. See
> http://www.eclipse.org/lepido/
> 
> Ross
> 
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Re: Existing Cocoon IDE

Posted by Ross Gardler <rg...@apache.org>.
Oleg Konovalov wrote:
> I am looking for an existing Cocoon/XSLT/Java IDE
> or Eclipse plug-in.

You have amazing timing. The Lepido project announced its first 
milestone release earlier today. See http://www.eclipse.org/lepido/

Ross

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