removing the Japanese and Portuguese variants of our user docs

[Rick Hillegas <ri...@oracle.com>]

Every couple years we wonder whether we should continue to publish the 
unmaintained Japanese and Portuguese variants of our user docs. At this 
point, these variants look so out-of-date to me that I recommend 
removing them from our website and our future release distributions. We 
can leave them in the docs svn repository in case someone wants to dust 
them off and bring them up-to-date.

I volunteer to do the work of removing them from the website and from 
the release generation process on the trunk. Does anyone object? Does 
anyone see a compelling reason to continue publishing these variants?

Thanks,
-Rick

Re: removing the Japanese and Portuguese variants of our user docs

[Me <m....@gmail.com>]

On Jan 17, 2013, at 5:36 PM, Rick Hillegas <ri...@oracle.com> wrote:

> Every couple years we wonder whether we should continue to publish the unmaintained Japanese and Portuguese variants of our user docs. At this point, these variants look so out-of-date to me that I recommend removing them from our website and our future release distributions. We can leave them in the docs svn repository in case someone wants to dust them off and bring them up-to-date.
> 
> I volunteer to do the work of removing them from the website and from the release generation process on the trunk. Does anyone object? Does anyone see a compelling reason to continue publishing these variants?
> 
> Thanks,
> -Rick

+1 to removing them.
      In fact, I think we only should have released them with the last release where they were updated...

Re: removing the Japanese and Portuguese variants of our user docs

[Kim Haase <ca...@oracle.com>]

Both the Japanese and Portuguese manuals seem to have been published for 
Derby 10.2 and not updated since then. Currently the Portuguese manuals 
are linked to both from 10.2 and the Latest Alpha Manuals. The Japanese 
ones are linked to only from the Latest Alpha Manuals. It might make 
sense to have links to both sets under the 10.2 manuals and nowhere else.

Kim

On 01/17/13 05:25 PM, Knut Anders Hatlen wrote:
> Rick Hillegas<ri...@oracle.com>  writes:
>
>> Every couple years we wonder whether we should continue to publish the
>> unmaintained Japanese and Portuguese variants of our user docs. At
>> this point, these variants look so out-of-date to me that I recommend
>> removing them from our website and our future release
>> distributions. We can leave them in the docs svn repository in case
>> someone wants to dust them off and bring them up-to-date.
>>
>> I volunteer to do the work of removing them from the website and from
>> the release generation process on the trunk. Does anyone object? Does
>> anyone see a compelling reason to continue publishing these variants?
> Thanks for volunteering, Rick.
>
> Since the translated manuals haven't been updated in many years, I think
> it's fine to stop producing them for new releases.
>
> I'd say we should keep them on the website for the already released
> versions, though, so they can be accessed if someone still finds them
> useful. They're probably more useful than the old versions of the
> English manuals that we keep on the website, as the outdated English
> manuals have alternatives that are newer and better.
>

Re: removing the Japanese and Portuguese variants of our user docs

[Knut Anders Hatlen <kn...@oracle.com>]

Rick Hillegas <ri...@oracle.com> writes:

> Every couple years we wonder whether we should continue to publish the
> unmaintained Japanese and Portuguese variants of our user docs. At
> this point, these variants look so out-of-date to me that I recommend
> removing them from our website and our future release
> distributions. We can leave them in the docs svn repository in case
> someone wants to dust them off and bring them up-to-date.
>
> I volunteer to do the work of removing them from the website and from
> the release generation process on the trunk. Does anyone object? Does
> anyone see a compelling reason to continue publishing these variants?

Thanks for volunteering, Rick.

Since the translated manuals haven't been updated in many years, I think
it's fine to stop producing them for new releases.

I'd say we should keep them on the website for the already released
versions, though, so they can be accessed if someone still finds them
useful. They're probably more useful than the old versions of the
English manuals that we keep on the website, as the outdated English
manuals have alternatives that are newer and better.

-- 
Knut Anders