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Posted to dev@cocoon.apache.org by Carsten Ziegeler <cz...@s-und-n.de> on 2004/06/04 15:20:22 UTC
RE: Removing sitemaps check-reload attribute
-1 :) Turning off this checking improves performance (no time
stamp checking anymore).
Carsten
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sylvain Wallez [mailto:sylvain@apache.org]
> Sent: Friday, June 04, 2004 3:14 PM
> To: cocoon-dev
> Subject: Removing sitemaps check-reload attribute
>
> Working on the TreeProcessor, I noticed "check-reload" that
> exists on <map:mount> whose existence I nearly forgot about,
> and was wondering about its actual usefulness, furthermore
> considering that it defaults to true (i.e. reload when needed)
>
> There are lots and lots of places in Cocoon where automatic
> reload occurs with no way to disable it: XSLT, XSP, JXTG,
> CForms to name a few.
>
> So I propose to remove this "feature", and have automatic
> sitemap reload always be turned on, as everywhere else.
>
> WDYT?
>
> Sylvain
>
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>
Re: Removing sitemaps check-reload attribute
Posted by Antonio Gallardo <ag...@agssa.net>.
Sylvain Wallez dijo:
> Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
>
>>-1 :) Turning off this checking improves performance (no time stamp
>> checking anymore).
>
> Do you think there's a real difference if the sitemap is checked _at
> most_ once per second (the default delay), when so much other files are
> checked at _every_ request?
Instead of removing it. Let move it to other location and add the support
for the other places you posted above. Then we can have a global parameter
in cocoon.xconf that will allow switch to a "production" mode by disabling
all this checks at once.
WDYT?
Best Regards,
Antonio Gallardo
RE: Removing sitemaps check-reload attribute
Posted by Carsten Ziegeler <cz...@s-und-n.de>.
Sylvain Wallez wrote:
>
> Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
>
> >-1 :) Turning off this checking improves performance (no
> time stamp checking anymore).
> >
> >
>
> Do you think there's a real difference if the sitemap is
> checked _at most_ once per second (the default delay), when
> so much other files are checked at _every_ request?
>
This depends on your setup, you can e.g. use expires caching
where the files are not checked at every request or you
can use custom components that have a smarter check etc.
So, yes, I think there is a major difference.
Carsten
Re: Removing sitemaps check-reload attribute
Posted by Sylvain Wallez <sy...@apache.org>.
Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
>-1 :) Turning off this checking improves performance (no time stamp checking anymore).
>
>
Do you think there's a real difference if the sitemap is checked _at
most_ once per second (the default delay), when so much other files are
checked at _every_ request?
Sylvain
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Sylvain Wallez [mailto:sylvain@apache.org]
>>Sent: Friday, June 04, 2004 3:14 PM
>>To: cocoon-dev
>>Subject: Removing sitemaps check-reload attribute
>>
>>Working on the TreeProcessor, I noticed "check-reload" that
>>exists on <map:mount> whose existence I nearly forgot about,
>>and was wondering about its actual usefulness, furthermore
>>considering that it defaults to true (i.e. reload when needed)
>>
>>There are lots and lots of places in Cocoon where automatic
>>reload occurs with no way to disable it: XSLT, XSP, JXTG,
>>CForms to name a few.
>>
>>So I propose to remove this "feature", and have automatic
>>sitemap reload always be turned on, as everywhere else.
>>
>>WDYT?
>>
>>Sylvain
>>
>>
--
Sylvain Wallez Anyware Technologies
http://www.apache.org/~sylvain http://www.anyware-tech.com
{ XML, Java, Cocoon, OpenSource }*{ Training, Consulting, Projects }
Re: Removing sitemaps check-reload attribute
Posted by Sylvain Wallez <sy...@apache.org>.
Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
>Forgot to add:
>
>The default is "true" anyways, so you can just ignore this feature. But it might be useful for people that want to fine tune their setup. So in the end it doesn't hurt if you have the possibility.
>
>
Sure, and I won't insist much for this reason. I just find this feature
rather useless and inconsistent with Cocoon's general behaviour.
Sylvain
--
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http://www.apache.org/~sylvain http://www.anyware-tech.com
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RE: Removing sitemaps check-reload attribute
Posted by Carsten Ziegeler <cz...@s-und-n.de>.
Forgot to add:
The default is "true" anyways, so you can just ignore this feature.
But it might be useful for people that want to fine tune their
setup. So in the end it doesn't hurt if you have the possibility.
Carsten
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Carsten Ziegeler [mailto:cziegeler@s-und-n.de]
> Sent: Friday, June 04, 2004 3:20 PM
> To: dev@cocoon.apache.org
> Subject: RE: Removing sitemaps check-reload attribute
>
> -1 :) Turning off this checking improves performance (no time
> stamp checking anymore).
>
> Carsten
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Sylvain Wallez [mailto:sylvain@apache.org]
> > Sent: Friday, June 04, 2004 3:14 PM
> > To: cocoon-dev
> > Subject: Removing sitemaps check-reload attribute
> >
> > Working on the TreeProcessor, I noticed "check-reload" that
> exists on
> > <map:mount> whose existence I nearly forgot about, and was
> wondering
> > about its actual usefulness, furthermore considering that
> it defaults
> > to true (i.e. reload when needed)
> >
> > There are lots and lots of places in Cocoon where automatic reload
> > occurs with no way to disable it: XSLT, XSP, JXTG, CForms to name a
> > few.
> >
> > So I propose to remove this "feature", and have automatic sitemap
> > reload always be turned on, as everywhere else.
> >
> > WDYT?
> >
> > Sylvain
> >
> > --
> > Sylvain Wallez Anyware Technologies
> > http://www.apache.org/~sylvain http://www.anyware-tech.com
> > { XML, Java, Cocoon, OpenSource }*{ Training, Consulting, Projects }
> >
> >
>