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Posted to modperl@perl.apache.org by David Simcik <da...@simcik.com> on 2002/03/06 17:47:24 UTC
Site Host Providers that Support mod_perl?
Alright, I'm a total mod_perl newbie and would like to find a host for my
personal site that allows me to develop mod_perl scripts. First off, I'm
assuming that there is no way to install mod_perl on my current provider due
to (obvious) access privilige restrictions to Apache? Secondly, the obvious
question here, whom would you folks recommend for hosting services, assuming
the afforementioned?
Thanks!
David
Re: Site Host Providers that Support mod_perl?
Posted by Sergey Maretskiy <qs...@mail.ru>.
Hello.
Sorry my bad English.
There is ISP Zenon http://zenon.net
I think Zenon is the best of those providing professional hosting services
and they rank first
by number of clients hosted in Russia.
They offer personal httpd with mod_perl (running as backend), shell, gcc,
personal MySQL and PostgreSQL DBs etc. for $45/month.
They also pay a lot of attention to security (for example, personal httpd is
actually given to each client even on smaller plans where you don't have
access to httpd.conf, so users cannot walk by each other account data etc.)
Unfortunatly English part of their site is very poor and I don't know if
they provide same good international services as local. But may be you will
have success with them!
Sergey.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Fran Fabrizio" <ff...@mmrd.com>
To: <mo...@apache.org>
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 7:34 PM
Subject: Re: Site Host Providers that Support mod_perl?
>
> I thought I had posted to this thread yesterday but looking back I don't
> see that it showed up, so I'll try again. :)
>
> I'm also looking for good mod_perl-supporting ISPs. Recently I went
> through the list on the web site, and either the links were broken, or
> the sites made no mention of supporting mod_perl. The best I've managed
> to find on my own is an ISP that starts supporting it at the $250/month
> level! Yikes. =) The inaccuracy of the list doesn't surprise me since
> the ISP world has experienced so much turnover and turmoil in the last
> couple of years. I'd be willing to compile a list of ISPs that you all
> know about and/or use, and forward that on to the web site maintainer.
>
> I know one option is to run your own mod-perl enabled apache but I
> imagine that a lot of ISPs would get pretty upset about you running
> servers (especially ones that love memory) on non-privileged ports, if
> they even allow connections to those ports in the first place.
>
> My ideal setup would be to be able to colocate one of my servers and
> just use the ISP's bandwidth, but those plans are all pretty pricey.
> So, I'd really like to have a good ISP that supports mod_perl that I can
> afford because I'd enjoy being able to play around and create sites that
> use mod_perl outside of work. Of course, I can do it at home, but it's
> not the best place to host a web app, it'd have an audience of one. =)
>
> Thanks,
> Fran
>
> David Simcik wrote:
>
> > Alright, I'm a total mod_perl newbie and would like to find a host for
my
> > personal site that allows me to develop mod_perl scripts. First off, I'm
> > assuming that there is no way to install mod_perl on my current provider
due
> > to (obvious) access privilige restrictions to Apache? Secondly, the
obvious
> > question here, whom would you folks recommend for hosting services,
assuming
> > the afforementioned?
> >
> > Thanks!
> > David
> >
>
>
Re: Site Host Providers that Support mod_perl?
Posted by Tagore Smith <ta...@tagoresmith.com>.
Fran Fabrizio wrote:
> I thought I had posted to this thread yesterday but looking back I don't
> see that it showed up, so I'll try again. :)
>
> I'm also looking for good mod_perl-supporting ISPs. Recently I went
> through the list on the web site, and either the links were broken, or
> the sites made no mention of supporting mod_perl. The best I've managed
> to find on my own is an ISP that starts supporting it at the $250/month
> level! Yikes. =) The inaccuracy of the list doesn't surprise me since
> the ISP world has experienced so much turnover and turmoil in the last
> couple of years. I'd be willing to compile a list of ISPs that you all
> know about and/or use, and forward that on to the web site maintainer.
>
> I know one option is to run your own mod-perl enabled apache but I
> imagine that a lot of ISPs would get pretty upset about you running
> servers (especially ones that love memory) on non-privileged ports, if
> they even allow connections to those ports in the first place.
>
> My ideal setup would be to be able to colocate one of my servers and
> just use the ISP's bandwidth, but those plans are all pretty pricey.
> So, I'd really like to have a good ISP that supports mod_perl that I can
> afford because I'd enjoy being able to play around and create sites that
> use mod_perl outside of work. Of course, I can do it at home, but it's
> not the best place to host a web app, it'd have an audience of one. =)
You might look at ISPs that offer virtual server (as opposed to vhost)
hosting. For example Netmode- http://www.netmode.com -offers dedicated IP
hosting starting at about $50.00/month. You get a shell account and can
compile and run anything you want (as long as it doesn't do anything
destructive), and connect to any privileged or non-privileged port. You get
your own apache process. You can set up vhosts and resell the hosting if
that's your cup of tea. The downside is that their ulimits on memory are
quite low. I tried to compile postgres and failed because gcc uses a _lot_
of memory compiling bison generated parsers. I still haven't written to them
about this- it may be that they are just using FreeBSD default settings
which are quite stingy if I recall correctly. Anyway, if you don't need to
handle heavy traffic it's a flexible, affordable setup. And the servers
include a dynamically loadable mod_perl by default.
TagoreSmith
Re: Site Host Providers that Support mod_perl?
Posted by Sergey Maretskiy <ms...@100top.ru>.
Hello.
Sorry my bad English.
There is ISP Zenon http://zenon.net
I think Zenon is the best of those providing professional hosting services
and they rank first
by number of clients hosted in Russia.
They offer personal httpd with mod_perl (running as backend), shell, gcc,
personal MySQL and PostgreSQL DBs etc. for $45/month.
They also pay a lot of attention to security (for example, personal httpd is
actually given to each client even on smaller plans where you don't have
access to httpd.conf, so users cannot walk by each other account data etc.)
Unfortunatly English part of their site is very poor and I don't know if
they provide same good international services as local. But may be you will
have success with them!
Sergey.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Fran Fabrizio" <ff...@mmrd.com>
To: <mo...@apache.org>
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 7:34 PM
Subject: Re: Site Host Providers that Support mod_perl?
>
> I thought I had posted to this thread yesterday but looking back I don't
> see that it showed up, so I'll try again. :)
>
> I'm also looking for good mod_perl-supporting ISPs. Recently I went
> through the list on the web site, and either the links were broken, or
> the sites made no mention of supporting mod_perl. The best I've managed
> to find on my own is an ISP that starts supporting it at the $250/month
> level! Yikes. =) The inaccuracy of the list doesn't surprise me since
> the ISP world has experienced so much turnover and turmoil in the last
> couple of years. I'd be willing to compile a list of ISPs that you all
> know about and/or use, and forward that on to the web site maintainer.
>
> I know one option is to run your own mod-perl enabled apache but I
> imagine that a lot of ISPs would get pretty upset about you running
> servers (especially ones that love memory) on non-privileged ports, if
> they even allow connections to those ports in the first place.
>
> My ideal setup would be to be able to colocate one of my servers and
> just use the ISP's bandwidth, but those plans are all pretty pricey.
> So, I'd really like to have a good ISP that supports mod_perl that I can
> afford because I'd enjoy being able to play around and create sites that
> use mod_perl outside of work. Of course, I can do it at home, but it's
> not the best place to host a web app, it'd have an audience of one. =)
>
> Thanks,
> Fran
>
> David Simcik wrote:
>
> > Alright, I'm a total mod_perl newbie and would like to find a host for
my
> > personal site that allows me to develop mod_perl scripts. First off, I'm
> > assuming that there is no way to install mod_perl on my current provider
due
> > to (obvious) access privilige restrictions to Apache? Secondly, the
obvious
> > question here, whom would you folks recommend for hosting services,
assuming
> > the afforementioned?
> >
> > Thanks!
> > David
> >
>
>
Re: Site Host Providers that Support mod_perl?
Posted by Fran Fabrizio <ff...@mmrd.com>.
> If you had something like Speakeasy DSL or a similar provider that allows
> you to run your own servers, you can run a server out of your house and
> use mod_perl and have fun.
>
> -- Brett
I actually have BellSouth dsl. I've never perused their acceptable use
policy, but I never thought it was a good idea to host a site at home
because of a lot of things....I have to open port 80 and then I'd have
to worry even more about security, it's dynamic IP and my IP refreshes
fairly regularly and the dyndns service that I use sometimes lags by as
much as 15 minutes in its updates. I live in a thunderstorm-rich area,
our power is constantly going out, etc... then again, what I'd like to
host isn't mission critical so maybe I'll rethink that...I've gotten
some good feedback so far, thanks to everyone!
I still would like to find either an ISP or a colo, because the other
half of it is that I do a good deal of freelance work on sites, and
having the option to resell a hosting agreement that supports mod_perl
and then having mod_perl at my disposal for app development is
attractive. I certainly would not want to host that kind of thing at
home.
-Fran
Re: Site Host Providers that Support mod_perl?
Posted by "Brett W. McCoy" <bm...@chapelperilous.net>.
On Thu, 7 Mar 2002, Fran Fabrizio wrote:
> My ideal setup would be to be able to colocate one of my servers and
> just use the ISP's bandwidth, but those plans are all pretty pricey.
> So, I'd really like to have a good ISP that supports mod_perl that I can
> afford because I'd enjoy being able to play around and create sites that
> use mod_perl outside of work. Of course, I can do it at home, but it's
> not the best place to host a web app, it'd have an audience of one. =)
If you had something like Speakeasy DSL or a similar provider that allows
you to run your own servers, you can run a server out of your house and
use mod_perl and have fun.
-- Brett
http://www.chapelperilous.net/
------------------------------------------------------------------------
"What the scientists have in their briefcases is terrifying."
-- Nikita Khrushchev
Re: Site Host Providers that Support mod_perl?
Posted by Fran Fabrizio <ff...@mmrd.com>.
I thought I had posted to this thread yesterday but looking back I don't
see that it showed up, so I'll try again. :)
I'm also looking for good mod_perl-supporting ISPs. Recently I went
through the list on the web site, and either the links were broken, or
the sites made no mention of supporting mod_perl. The best I've managed
to find on my own is an ISP that starts supporting it at the $250/month
level! Yikes. =) The inaccuracy of the list doesn't surprise me since
the ISP world has experienced so much turnover and turmoil in the last
couple of years. I'd be willing to compile a list of ISPs that you all
know about and/or use, and forward that on to the web site maintainer.
I know one option is to run your own mod-perl enabled apache but I
imagine that a lot of ISPs would get pretty upset about you running
servers (especially ones that love memory) on non-privileged ports, if
they even allow connections to those ports in the first place.
My ideal setup would be to be able to colocate one of my servers and
just use the ISP's bandwidth, but those plans are all pretty pricey.
So, I'd really like to have a good ISP that supports mod_perl that I can
afford because I'd enjoy being able to play around and create sites that
use mod_perl outside of work. Of course, I can do it at home, but it's
not the best place to host a web app, it'd have an audience of one. =)
Thanks,
Fran
David Simcik wrote:
> Alright, I'm a total mod_perl newbie and would like to find a host for my
> personal site that allows me to develop mod_perl scripts. First off, I'm
> assuming that there is no way to install mod_perl on my current provider due
> to (obvious) access privilige restrictions to Apache? Secondly, the obvious
> question here, whom would you folks recommend for hosting services, assuming
> the afforementioned?
>
> Thanks!
> David
>
Re: Site Host Providers that Support mod_perl?
Posted by Stas Bekman <st...@stason.org>.
c.hauser@itassistance.ch wrote:
> Hello
>
>
> My company and Simplicity Ltd. are offering dedicated hosting, this
> includes:
>
> - A or some virtual host with access to own httpd.conf over Webmin
> - Ability to restart the server (!).
> - DNS for multiple hosts/domains, also the ones not with us.
> - FTP access by dedicated IP.
> - Mail domain and account mgmt. over Webmin.
> - Standard stats per domain.
> - Optionally mySQL account.
>
> - And of course mod_perl installed!
>
> - HTML::Mason ready (others upon request)
> - Midgard ready (sorry to mention this :-)
>
> The price? This might be very individual, not much cheaper than
> others (the economic ones). It really depends on traffic 10 MB or 10
> GB per Month (including mail) or on additional RAM load (no cache
> limits, sexy servers). We specialize on individual services for SMB's
> who want to keep control over basic technologies. Feel free to give
> some details on your hosting project and you will get a straight offer.
Guys, if you want to be listed here: http://perl.apache.org/isp.html
You must provide the URL advertising your service (assuming that you
provide mod_perl hosting). Thanks!
_____________________________________________________________________
Stas Bekman JAm_pH -- Just Another mod_perl Hacker
http://stason.org/ mod_perl Guide http://perl.apache.org/guide
mailto:stas@stason.org http://ticketmaster.com http://apacheweek.com
http://singlesheaven.com http://perl.apache.org http://perlmonth.com/
Re: Site Host Providers that Support mod_perl?
Posted by c....@itassistance.ch.
Hello
My company and Simplicity Ltd. are offering dedicated hosting, this
includes:
- A or some virtual host with access to own httpd.conf over Webmin
- Ability to restart the server (!).
- DNS for multiple hosts/domains, also the ones not with us.
- FTP access by dedicated IP.
- Mail domain and account mgmt. over Webmin.
- Standard stats per domain.
- Optionally mySQL account.
- And of course mod_perl installed!
- HTML::Mason ready (others upon request)
- Midgard ready (sorry to mention this :-)
The price? This might be very individual, not much cheaper than
others (the economic ones). It really depends on traffic 10 MB or 10
GB per Month (including mail) or on additional RAM load (no cache
limits, sexy servers). We specialize on individual services for SMB's
who want to keep control over basic technologies. Feel free to give
some details on your hosting project and you will get a straight offer.
Best Regards C.Hauser - c.hauser@itassistance.ch -
.....................................
IT assistance Ltd.
Lange Gasse 6
CH-4052 Basel
.....................................
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Date: Mittwoch, 6. März 2002, 17:47:24
Subject: Site Host Providers that Support mod_perl?
Alright, I'm a total mod_perl newbie and would like to find a host for my
personal site that allows me to develop mod_perl scripts. First off, I'm
assuming that there is no way to install mod_perl on my current provider due
to (obvious) access privilige restrictions to Apache? Secondly, the obvious
question here, whom would you folks recommend for hosting services, assuming
the afforementioned?
Thanks!
David
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Re: Site Host Providers that Support mod_perl?
Posted by Stas Bekman <st...@stason.org>.
David Simcik wrote:
> Alright, I'm a total mod_perl newbie and would like to find a host for my
> personal site that allows me to develop mod_perl scripts. First off, I'm
> assuming that there is no way to install mod_perl on my current provider due
> to (obvious) access privilige restrictions to Apache?
you can be surprised :) you can. you won't be able to run it on ports <
1024, but other than that, no prob. See
http://perl.apache.org/guide/install.html#Installation_Without_Superuser_P
> Secondly, the obvious
> question here, whom would you folks recommend for hosting services, assuming
> the afforementioned?
Not sure if this will help, but try:
http://perl.apache.org/isp.html
I'm looking forward for people sending me updated info and new hosts!!!
I mean that. Please!
p.s. David, you will probably want to check what the mod_perl guide and
other docs on the perl.apache.org have to offer, since you probably will
have more questions in the future.
_____________________________________________________________________
Stas Bekman JAm_pH -- Just Another mod_perl Hacker
http://stason.org/ mod_perl Guide http://perl.apache.org/guide
mailto:stas@stason.org http://ticketmaster.com http://apacheweek.com
http://singlesheaven.com http://perl.apache.org http://perlmonth.com/
Re: Site Host Providers that Support mod_perl?
Posted by Marc Slagle <ma...@securelevel.com>.
> Alright, I'm a total mod_perl newbie and would like to find a host for my
> personal site that allows me to develop mod_perl scripts. First off, I'm
> assuming that there is no way to install mod_perl on my current provider
due
> to (obvious) access privilige restrictions to Apache? Secondly, the
obvious
> question here, whom would you folks recommend for hosting services,
assuming
> the afforementioned?
Secure Level provides mod_perl hosting. We have two packages. The first is
$80/month, and you get 4gb throughput, your own httpd/IP address, no memory
limits (as long as you don't kill the server) and 25 Mb storage space. Its
$65/month if you pre-pay one year. The second package is $10 less a month
if you dont need your own IP address, and want to run on a non-standard
port.
Our facility is fed by 18 OC-192 connections, so heavy traffic isn't that
much of an issue.
http://www.securelevel.com
Marc Slagle