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Site again

It's me again, bitching about the site, but also trying to be productive.

This is my one hour effort to apply a custom skin similar to the one
used on log4php:
http://bezdomni.net/log4j2

I think it's a big improvement. I left in the logos, like you wanted
last time we talked, just made them slightly smaller.

If you like it, I can work on it from there.

Regards,
Ivan

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Re: Site again

Posted by Ralph Goers <rg...@apache.org>.
Thanks!  I should have mentioned before that you are going to find some stuff I put in that formats some of the content differently when it is creating the PDF. You will probably need to look at the PDF as you make changes just to verify it still looks ok.

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On Nov 17, 2012, at 3:24 AM, Ivan Habunek <ih...@apache.org> wrote:

> On 16 November 2012 20:52, Ralph Goers <rg...@apache.org> wrote:
>> If we can release at any time I am OK with committing to trunk.  If the web site generation will be broken in svn then please use a branch.
> 
> I have committed the initial changes. The site builds fine on my
> machine (both the main one and component sites). Still, I would
> appreciate if you give it a once-over to check that I have not missed
> anything.
> 
> In the coming days, I will try to address some visual features - add
> prettyprint to code blocks, make table appearance consistent and the
> like.
> 
> Regards,
> Ivan
> 
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Re: Site again

Posted by Ivan Habunek <iv...@gmail.com>.
On 20 November 2012 16:09, Ralph Goers <ra...@dslextreme.com> wrote:
> The only problem with that is that the pdf is generated from the same files as the web pages. Unfortunately, the pdf generator doesn't seem to support sub-navigation and I believe it makes a chapter out of every item.  See pdf.xml.
>
> I would really like the downloadable pdf to be usable as an offline reference.

Yeah, you're right. From the maven-pdf-plugin site:
"Menu sub-items are not supported in TOC (every source document starts
a new chapter)."

That is so inflexible. Yet another half-usable plugin for maven. :/

I'll just leave the structure as it is. It's a pity since I already
did the changes locally, and it does improve the site navigation.

Regards,
Ivan

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Re: Site again

Posted by Ralph Goers <ra...@dslextreme.com>.
On Nov 20, 2012, at 6:55 AM, Ivan Habunek wrote:

> On 18 November 2012 15:24, Ralph Goers <rg...@apache.org> wrote:
>> I was going to mention the child projects because at first I didn't notice you had put the project name in the page heading.  Once I saw that I thought what you have is ok except for the missing user's guide.
> 
> I have reverted the change, so the Manual menu will appear in child
> project sites.
> 
>> I don't know of a better way to handle the sub projects or I would have done it.  But I am certainly open to other ideas.
> 
> Well, I'll give the sub projects some thought, and let you know if I
> come up with anything clever.
> 
> In the meantime, I would like to split some large pages into smaller
> ones, especially Appenders, Layouts and Filters. This way you would
> have one entity per page, and I think it would be much nicer. Do you
> have any objections?

The only problem with that is that the pdf is generated from the same files as the web pages. Unfortunately, the pdf generator doesn't seem to support sub-navigation and I believe it makes a chapter out of every item.  See pdf.xml.  

I would really like the downloadable pdf to be usable as an offline reference.

Ralph
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Re: Site again

Posted by Ivan Habunek <iv...@gmail.com>.
On 18 November 2012 15:24, Ralph Goers <rg...@apache.org> wrote:
> I was going to mention the child projects because at first I didn't notice you had put the project name in the page heading.  Once I saw that I thought what you have is ok except for the missing user's guide.

I have reverted the change, so the Manual menu will appear in child
project sites.

> I don't know of a better way to handle the sub projects or I would have done it.  But I am certainly open to other ideas.

Well, I'll give the sub projects some thought, and let you know if I
come up with anything clever.

In the meantime, I would like to split some large pages into smaller
ones, especially Appenders, Layouts and Filters. This way you would
have one entity per page, and I think it would be much nicer. Do you
have any objections?

Regards,
Ivan

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Re: Site again

Posted by Ralph Goers <rg...@apache.org>.
I was going to mention the child projects because at first I didn't notice you had put the project name in the page heading.  Once I saw that I thought what you have is ok except for the missing user's guide.

I don't know of a better way to handle the sub projects or I would have done it.  But I am certainly open to other ideas.

Ralph

On Nov 18, 2012, at 1:21 AM, Ivan Habunek <ih...@apache.org> wrote:

> On 18 November 2012 01:06, Ralph Goers <ra...@dslextreme.com> wrote:
>> After building the site I only have one issue. Only the parent site has the user's guide. I would prefer that the guide be available no matter where you are in the site.
> 
> Oh, I was trying that out, actually didn't mean to commit that before
> discussing it with you guys.
> 
> We discussed the modules sites before. IMO, they are a bit of a mess.
> It's not clear to the user that they are on a module site. It still
> looks like the main site, and has the menu of the main site.
> 
> None of the module sites have any documentation about the module, except for:
> a) a brief description in index.html
> b) the generated reports
> 
> If you have an idea for fixing this, say. I'm not sure ATM.
> 
> Regards,
> Ivan
> 
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Re: Site again

Posted by Ivan Habunek <ih...@apache.org>.
On 18 November 2012 01:06, Ralph Goers <ra...@dslextreme.com> wrote:
> After building the site I only have one issue. Only the parent site has the user's guide. I would prefer that the guide be available no matter where you are in the site.

Oh, I was trying that out, actually didn't mean to commit that before
discussing it with you guys.

We discussed the modules sites before. IMO, they are a bit of a mess.
It's not clear to the user that they are on a module site. It still
looks like the main site, and has the menu of the main site.

None of the module sites have any documentation about the module, except for:
a) a brief description in index.html
b) the generated reports

If you have an idea for fixing this, say. I'm not sure ATM.

Regards,
Ivan

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Re: Site again

Posted by Ralph Goers <ra...@dslextreme.com>.
After building the site I only have one issue. Only the parent site has the user's guide. I would prefer that the guide be available no matter where you are in the site.

Ralph


On Nov 17, 2012, at 3:24 AM, Ivan Habunek wrote:

> On 16 November 2012 20:52, Ralph Goers <rg...@apache.org> wrote:
>> If we can release at any time I am OK with committing to trunk.  If the web site generation will be broken in svn then please use a branch.
> 
> I have committed the initial changes. The site builds fine on my
> machine (both the main one and component sites). Still, I would
> appreciate if you give it a once-over to check that I have not missed
> anything.
> 
> In the coming days, I will try to address some visual features - add
> prettyprint to code blocks, make table appearance consistent and the
> like.
> 
> Regards,
> Ivan
> 
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Re: Site again

Posted by Ivan Habunek <ih...@apache.org>.
On 16 November 2012 20:52, Ralph Goers <rg...@apache.org> wrote:
> If we can release at any time I am OK with committing to trunk.  If the web site generation will be broken in svn then please use a branch.

I have committed the initial changes. The site builds fine on my
machine (both the main one and component sites). Still, I would
appreciate if you give it a once-over to check that I have not missed
anything.

In the coming days, I will try to address some visual features - add
prettyprint to code blocks, make table appearance consistent and the
like.

Regards,
Ivan

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Re: Site again

Posted by Ivan Habunek <ih...@apache.org>.
On 16 November 2012 20:52, Ralph Goers <rg...@apache.org> wrote:
> If we can release at any time I am OK with committing to trunk.  If the web site generation will be broken in svn then please use a branch.

OK, cool. I'll test before committing, and let you know before making
any bigger changes.

Regards,
Ivan

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Re: Site again

Posted by Ralph Goers <rg...@apache.org>.
If we can release at any time I am OK with committing to trunk.  If the web site generation will be broken in svn then please use a branch.

Ralph

On Nov 16, 2012, at 11:02 AM, Ivan Habunek <ih...@apache.org> wrote:

> OK, do you want me to work in a branch and let you merge it to trunk,
> or should I just commit to trunk once I get the permissions?
> 
> Regards.
> Ivan
> 
> On 15 November 2012 19:39, Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Thats pretty nice! good work!
>> 
>> On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 11:00 AM, Ivan Habunek <ih...@apache.org> wrote:
>>> It's me again, bitching about the site, but also trying to be productive.
>>> 
>>> This is my one hour effort to apply a custom skin similar to the one
>>> used on log4php:
>>> http://bezdomni.net/log4j2
>>> 
>>> I think it's a big improvement. I left in the logos, like you wanted
>>> last time we talked, just made them slightly smaller.
>>> 
>>> If you like it, I can work on it from there.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Ivan
>>> 
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>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: Site again

Posted by Ivan Habunek <ih...@apache.org>.
OK, do you want me to work in a branch and let you merge it to trunk,
or should I just commit to trunk once I get the permissions?

Regards.
Ivan

On 15 November 2012 19:39, Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thats pretty nice! good work!
>
> On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 11:00 AM, Ivan Habunek <ih...@apache.org> wrote:
>> It's me again, bitching about the site, but also trying to be productive.
>>
>> This is my one hour effort to apply a custom skin similar to the one
>> used on log4php:
>> http://bezdomni.net/log4j2
>>
>> I think it's a big improvement. I left in the logos, like you wanted
>> last time we talked, just made them slightly smaller.
>>
>> If you like it, I can work on it from there.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Ivan
>>
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Re: Site again

Posted by Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com>.
Thats pretty nice! good work!

On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 11:00 AM, Ivan Habunek <ih...@apache.org> wrote:
> It's me again, bitching about the site, but also trying to be productive.
>
> This is my one hour effort to apply a custom skin similar to the one
> used on log4php:
> http://bezdomni.net/log4j2
>
> I think it's a big improvement. I left in the logos, like you wanted
> last time we talked, just made them slightly smaller.
>
> If you like it, I can work on it from there.
>
> Regards,
> Ivan
>
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Re: Site again

Posted by Ralph Goers <rg...@apache.org>.
I like it!  You certainly have my support to keep working on it.

Ralph

On Nov 15, 2012, at 2:00 AM, Ivan Habunek <ih...@apache.org> wrote:

> It's me again, bitching about the site, but also trying to be productive.
> 
> This is my one hour effort to apply a custom skin similar to the one
> used on log4php:
> http://bezdomni.net/log4j2
> 
> I think it's a big improvement. I left in the logos, like you wanted
> last time we talked, just made them slightly smaller.
> 
> If you like it, I can work on it from there.
> 
> Regards,
> Ivan
> 
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Re: Site again

Posted by Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com>.
Wow it looks so much better on my iPhone!

Gary

On Nov 15, 2012, at 5:00, Ivan Habunek <ih...@apache.org> wrote:

> It's me again, bitching about the site, but also trying to be productive.
>
> This is my one hour effort to apply a custom skin similar to the one
> used on log4php:
> http://bezdomni.net/log4j2
>
> I think it's a big improvement. I left in the logos, like you wanted
> last time we talked, just made them slightly smaller.
>
> If you like it, I can work on it from there.
>
> Regards,
> Ivan
>
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