Fwd: Re: [iks-community] Fwd: Aloha Editor is out.

[florent andré <fl...@4sengines.com>]

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Subject: Re: [iks-community] Fwd:  Aloha Editor is out.
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 23:23:58 +0200
From: Mag. Alexander Szlezak <a....@gentics.com>
To: A.Kuckartz@ping.de
CC: iks-community@iks-project.eu

Hi Andreas,

Thanks for your comments. Working on our task to push Aloha Editor out
as fast as possible didn't leave time yet to clear some of the licensing
questions.

My thoughts are wandering around the following insights:

Aloha Editor should be freely accessible under a license that provides
oss code to use for everybody, so it can spread and prosper and at the
same time build the commercial foundation for future development.  In
the end Aloha Editor should reward it's contributors and creators.

Behind scenes: Most oss project have a driving force behind it, usually
individuals with strong engagement acting alone or within a company and
contributors grouped around them.

Then there are the leechers, who just take, but don't give back in terms
of code contribution or money and thus do nothing for the common cause.

Our idea is to encourage active contribution by a mutual exchange of
benefits between the community and Gentics.

That means andybody can deploy Aloha Editor by using AGPLv3 code, or
purchase a commercial version which frees from the obligations of AGPLv3.

Whoever contributes will do that under a contribution agreement, that
will guarantee that the contribution is published as AGPLv3, that full
rights a granted to the contributor for his contributions and at the
same time rights to use/modify/distribute the contribution unter a
commercial license for non oss audiences are granted to Gentics. This
will help to fund continous core development, defend agains IP issues
and build a strong foundation of the project.

When it comes to plugins, GPL/AGPL ist not ideal when it comes to ajax
frameworks etc. There's a lot of discussion going on about when
something is considered a derivative work and thus needs to be published
as (A)GPL again.  Thus special license arrangements for developers of
plugins etc. might help. I'm happy about input and still working on it.

To my opinion the ideas outlined so far  will balance the interests of
the public, developers and Gentis. Feedback and ideas are welcome
though! ;-)

all the best,
Alexander




Haymo Meran schrieb:
> Begin forwarded message:
>
>> *From: *"Andreas Kuckartz" <A.Kuckartz@ping.de
>> <ma...@ping.de>>
>> *Date: *16. Juli 2010 09:48:04 MESZ
>> *To: *iks-community@iks-project.eu <ma...@iks-project.eu>
>> *Cc: *"Haymo Meran" <h.meran@gentics.com <ma...@gentics.com>>
>> *Subject: **Re: [iks-community] Aloha Editor is out.*
>>
>> Haymo wrote:
>>
>>> AGPL in our point of view is the only way for a small
>>> company to distribute a self founded front-end framework
>>> with no possibility to up-sell a commercial admin add-on.
>>
>> I am well aware of the difficulties to earn money with Open Source.
>> While a lot of experience has been gathered and scientific work has been
>> carried out in this area it still is a learning process. Some of the
>> different kinds of implications of a license on the future are not
>> necessarily obvious from the beginning.
>>
>> One point is that developers have to spend time to think about the
>> consequences of using a software component distributed under a specific
>> license.
>>
>> Some questions which arise immediately:
>>
>> What does the license imply for plugins? Do they have to be distributed
>> under the same license? Who decides?
>>
>> Can a community of developers be grown which helps to improve and
>> enhance the software when such improvements in the end will be sold by a
>> single different company? There is an amount of inquality here which
>> might (not necessarily will) prevent people from joining such a community.
>>
>>> PS: After the hard work the last month I think
>>> I deserved some rest. I'll bee on a sailing trip next
>>> week and not answer to the mailinglist ;-)
>>
>> Sure, have fun!
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Andreas
>>
>>
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