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Posted to adffaces-user@incubator.apache.org by Brian Smith <un...@gmail.com> on 2006/10/12 17:08:00 UTC
Trinidad replaces ADF Faces?
Will Trinidad replace the ADF Faces component set? I have heard that Oracle
is using Trinidad builds heavily internally. Is the plan to desupport ADF
Faces components once Trinidad makes it through incubation? Is there plans
to support Trinidad (visual designer and such) in an upcoming release of
JDeveloper? Thanks for any light shed.
-Brian
Re: Trinidad replaces ADF Faces?
Posted by Brian Smith <un...@gmail.com>.
I am a Netbeans user as well. I really did not have any problems using ADF
Faces with Netbeans 5.5 Beta2 or RC1. The big sticking point was including
the ADFShare jar in with it. The ADF Docs say you don't need it, but i
could not build without it.
On 10/12/06, Causevic, Dzenan <dc...@navisite.com> wrote:
>
>
> From my experience I think that's exactly the case. That was my
> conclusion. I first tried ADF Faces and I had problems to install it to work
> with NetBeans. Actually I discovered a serious bug that prevents ADF Faces
> v10 from installing with NetBeans v5.5 correctly. It took me a long time
> until I figured it out, 'cos I did not get any kind of technical support
> from their discussion list. Nobody knew anything why I was having difficulty
> installing it with NetBeans. That was very frustrating, so I dont blame if
> even Oracle people itself are switching to Trinidad.
>
> Basically my above mentioned problems resulted in me trying Trinidad as an
> alternative and once I got my hands on it I was quite happy to have found
> it. I personally dont see any reason to use ADF Faces over Trinidad.
> Trinidad is much, much better supported + it has a brigther future as a
> project I believe.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brian Smith [mailto:unobriani@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thu 10/12/2006 1:08 PM
> To: adffaces-user@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Trinidad replaces ADF Faces?
>
> Will Trinidad replace the ADF Faces component set? I have heard that
> Oracle
> is using Trinidad builds heavily internally. Is the plan to desupport ADF
> Faces components once Trinidad makes it through incubation? Is there
> plans
> to support Trinidad (visual designer and such) in an upcoming release of
> JDeveloper? Thanks for any light shed.
> -Brian
>
>
>
RE: Trinidad replaces ADF Faces?
Posted by "Causevic, Dzenan" <dc...@navisite.com>.
From my experience I think that's exactly the case. That was my conclusion. I first tried ADF Faces and I had problems to install it to work with NetBeans. Actually I discovered a serious bug that prevents ADF Faces v10 from installing with NetBeans v5.5 correctly. It took me a long time until I figured it out, 'cos I did not get any kind of technical support from their discussion list. Nobody knew anything why I was having difficulty installing it with NetBeans. That was very frustrating, so I dont blame if even Oracle people itself are switching to Trinidad.
Basically my above mentioned problems resulted in me trying Trinidad as an alternative and once I got my hands on it I was quite happy to have found it. I personally dont see any reason to use ADF Faces over Trinidad. Trinidad is much, much better supported + it has a brigther future as a project I believe.
-----Original Message-----
From: Brian Smith [mailto:unobriani@gmail.com]
Sent: Thu 10/12/2006 1:08 PM
To: adffaces-user@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Trinidad replaces ADF Faces?
Will Trinidad replace the ADF Faces component set? I have heard that Oracle
is using Trinidad builds heavily internally. Is the plan to desupport ADF
Faces components once Trinidad makes it through incubation? Is there plans
to support Trinidad (visual designer and such) in an upcoming release of
JDeveloper? Thanks for any light shed.
-Brian
Re: Trinidad replaces ADF Faces?
Posted by Brian Smith <un...@gmail.com>.
So it sounds like the ADF Faces components are not "going away" but there
probably won't be further development in that area now that Trinidad is
around/coming. So Oracle is taking a build of Trinidad and building on top
of it for a new set of proprietary components? Sounds good, I am just early
into a project and am trying to sort out whether I should go with ADF Faces
or Trinidad. Right now it sounds like Trinidad is a safer bet since it
seems to have more a future.
Thanks again,
Brian
On 10/12/06, Adam Winer <aw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I don't know what's been officially announced, so I'll probably say
> less than I can here...
>
> Oracle is building a new, rich, XMLHttp and DHTML set of components
> for our next big revision of JDeveloper, etc. We're building that
> on top of Trinidad - the framework features, the component set,
> skinning, etc., albeit with a new RenderKit.
>
> At the same time, Trinidad will work in JDeveloper in the
> visual designer. So you'll have both options.
>
> -- Adam
>
>
>
> On 10/12/06, Brian Smith <un...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Will Trinidad replace the ADF Faces component set? I have heard that
> Oracle
> > is using Trinidad builds heavily internally. Is the plan to desupport
> ADF
> > Faces components once Trinidad makes it through incubation? Is there
> plans
> > to support Trinidad (visual designer and such) in an upcoming release of
> > JDeveloper? Thanks for any light shed.
> > -Brian
> >
> >
>
Re: Trinidad replaces ADF Faces?
Posted by Scott O'Bryan <da...@gmail.com>.
In some ways ASF is kinda lucky to get this after it's fermented a bit.
:) Really cool stuff let me tell you...
Scott
Adam Winer wrote:
> Actually, yes. :) Announced a while back. Though I want
> to get Trinidad out of incubator first.
>
> -- Adam
Re: Re: Trinidad replaces ADF Faces?
Posted by Adam Winer <aw...@gmail.com>.
Actually, yes. :) Announced a while back. Though I want
to get Trinidad out of incubator first.
-- Adam
On 10/12/06, Nicklas Karlsson <ni...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Oracle is building a new, rich, XMLHttp and DHTML set of components
> > for our next big revision of JDeveloper, etc. We're building that
> > on top of Trinidad - the framework features, the component set,
> > skinning, etc., albeit with a new RenderKit.
>
>
> You'll donate that to ASF as well when its done? ;-)
>
>
Re: Trinidad replaces ADF Faces?
Posted by Nicklas Karlsson <ni...@gmail.com>.
> Oracle is building a new, rich, XMLHttp and DHTML set of components
> for our next big revision of JDeveloper, etc. We're building that
> on top of Trinidad - the framework features, the component set,
> skinning, etc., albeit with a new RenderKit.
You'll donate that to ASF as well when its done? ;-)
Re: Trinidad replaces ADF Faces?
Posted by Adam Winer <aw...@gmail.com>.
I don't know what's been officially announced, so I'll probably say
less than I can here...
Oracle is building a new, rich, XMLHttp and DHTML set of components
for our next big revision of JDeveloper, etc. We're building that
on top of Trinidad - the framework features, the component set,
skinning, etc., albeit with a new RenderKit.
At the same time, Trinidad will work in JDeveloper in the
visual designer. So you'll have both options.
-- Adam
On 10/12/06, Brian Smith <un...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Will Trinidad replace the ADF Faces component set? I have heard that Oracle
> is using Trinidad builds heavily internally. Is the plan to desupport ADF
> Faces components once Trinidad makes it through incubation? Is there plans
> to support Trinidad (visual designer and such) in an upcoming release of
> JDeveloper? Thanks for any light shed.
> -Brian
>
>