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Posted to dev@myfaces.apache.org by Martin Marinschek <ma...@gmail.com> on 2006/07/28 09:42:35 UTC
Fwd: ADF Faces breaks many Tomahawk components
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From: Martin Marinschek <ma...@gmail.com>
Date: Jul 28, 2006 9:41 AM
Subject: Re: ADF Faces breaks many Tomahawk components
To: adffaces-user@incubator.apache.org, MyFaces Discussion
<us...@myfaces.apache.org>
Hi Cosma,
we should also send this to the myfaces-dev list. Adffaces-user is
somewhat inappropriate ;).
a link can have <f:param/> children, where those children will be
rendered out as hidden fields as well, you'll find how this works by
looking into the MyFaces sources.
regards,
Martin
On 7/28/06, Cosma Colanicchia <co...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Martin!
>
> > - I'd call it - generateHiddenField; for the link and it's parameters
> > (don't forget about them)
>
> Can you explain what do you mean exactly for link parameters?
>
> > - what does form.submit(); and then partialSubmit(form); mean? You
> > mean conditionalSubmit(form) or so, right?
>
> I don't remember the exact name, but Trinidad already have a form
> submission ruotine, and also a PPR one.
>
> > - removeHiddenLink for the link and it's parameters will take care of
> > the AJAX-problem as well, yes.
>
> I think it should - lets see if it works :-)
>
> > - and exception handling will be just great. We could put that in the
> > methods itself, right? I don't know from which browser version
> > exception handling starts to work, so there should be some testing
> > done here.
>
> A little research has to do here.. unless someone point us in the
> right direction.
>
> > If there's one more thing, we might be enable having params for
> > buttons as well. Currently, this works only for links, and with this
> > solution it should even be easy for buttons. Anyone having any
> > interest in doing this as well?
>
> As I said before, I'm not sure what those parameters are, can you
> kindly explain?
>
> > Cosma, do you want to go ahead and do something like what we've come
> > up with? If you do, please make sure that you nail down a MyFaces
> > committer to get the changes in pretty soon. I'll be on vacation the
> > next 3 weeks, so you'll need to find someone else. If nobody jumps the
> > band-waggon, get in private contact with Thomas or Gerald, please.
>
> I don't know when I will have some time to look into this.. my home pc
> is under maintenance at the moment ;-) Anyway, does someone else
> agree/disagree on this kind of solution?
>
>
> Cosma
>
> > regards,
> >
> > Martin
> >
> > On 7/28/06, Cosma Colanicchia <co...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > You're right Andrew.. but I don't like the global variable approach
> > > much. Can't we simply remove the element from the DOM *after* the
> > > submit?
> > >
> > > commandLink onclick javascript:
> > > "generateHiddenLink(form, 'someName', this.id); form.submit();"
> > > partialSubmit(form);
> > > removeHiddenLink(form, 'someName');"
> > >
> > > (note: partialSubmit should also check the existence of an onsubmit
> > > handler, call it and evaluate the result before going on with the
> > > submit.. but I'm almost sure that Trinidad already does that in its js
> > > submit routines)
> > >
> > > Now, on a normal submit, the removeHiddenLink call will not be
> > > executed because the remaining of the javascript method isn't executed
> > > after submission. No problem, since the DOM will be rebuilt anyway.
> > >
> > > On the other hand, when doing a PPR submit (either with current iframe
> > > or a future xmlhttprequest implementation) the page that contains the
> > > commandLink isn't really submitted, so execution should go on and the
> > > removeHiddenLink should be executed. 'm only worried about errors that
> > > could happen in partialSubmit().. I don't know javascript error
> > > handling very well, can we do a sort of try { ... } finally {
> > > removeHiddenLink() }?
> > >
> > >
> > > Cosma
> > >
> > >
> > > 2006/7/27, Rick Rodriguez <RR...@valleywater.org>:
> > > > Can someone please help me in removing my email from this post.
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> > > > 408.265.2607 x2781
> > > > rrodriguez@valleywater.org
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Rick Rodriguez
> > > > GIS Administration
> > > > Santa Clara Valley Water District
> > > > 5750 Almaden Expressway
> > > > San Jose, CA 95118
> > > > 408.265.2607 x2781
> > > > rrodriguez@valleywater.org
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Andrew Robinson [mailto:andrew.rw.robinson@gmail.com]
> > > > Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2006 12:55 PM
> > > > To: adffaces-user@incubator.apache.org
> > > > Subject: Re: ADF Faces breaks many Tomahawk components
> > > >
> > > > I think this may be a problem with AJAX (option 3) as the links can be
> > > > clicked more than once and different links can be clicked. This could
> > > > be solved by JavaScript code though (store the last ID as a javascript
> > > > global variable that stores the ID of generated element and removes it
> > > > from the DOM on click):
> > > >
> > > > if (window['jsfCommandId'])
> > > > {
> > > > var elem =document.getElementById(window['jsfCommandId'])
> > > > if (elem)
> > > > elem.parentNode.removeChild(elem)
> > > > }
> > > > var hiddenLink=document.createElement('input');
> > > > hiddenLink.type='hidden';
> > > > hiddenLink.name='someName';
> > > > hiddenLink.value=this.id;
> > > > window['jsfCommandId'] = this.id
> > > > form.appendChild(hiddenLink);
> > > > form.submit();
> > > >
> > > > On 7/27/06, Martin Marinschek <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > Now if this works, it's a very good solution!
> > > > >
> > > > > Well, you're right, on browser-back we'll loose the current DOM, and
> > > > > so the dynamically added link will vanish. Like it!
> > > > >
> > > > > regards,
> > > > >
> > > > > Martin
> > > > >
> > > > > On 7/27/06, Cosma Colanicchia <co...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > I like more option 2..
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Let's add another one.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 3. option:
> > > > > > =======
> > > > > >
> > > > > > each Link, in its onclick attribute, renders:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "var hiddenLink=document.createElement('input');
> > > > > > hiddenLink.type='hidden';
> > > > > > hiddenLink.name='someName';
> > > > > > hiddenLink.value=this.id;
> > > > > > form.appendChild(hiddenLink);
> > > > > > form.submit();"
> > > > > >
> > > > > > or, having defined a function in one of the js libraries:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "generateHiddenLink(form, 'someName', this.id); form.submit();"
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Of course, the renderer should not encode the hidden field. This way
> > > > > > we could forget about clearing at all, as all those hidden fields
> > > > are
> > > > > > missing when the page is loaded, and only the required parameters is
> > > > > > actually added to the page.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Cosma
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 2006/7/27, Martin Marinschek <ma...@gmail.com>:
> > > > > > > Of course, all of this without dojo ;)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > regards,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Martin
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 7/27/06, Martin Marinschek <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > No.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 1. option:
> > > > > > > > =======
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > each Link renders:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > dojo.event.bind(form,"submit",function(){ // clear the parameter
> > > > of this link});
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > in the onclick method:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > dojo.event.bind(form,"submit",function(){//set parameter of this
> > > > > > > > link}); form.submit();
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > (as the event is added as the last event, the parameters will
> > > > remain
> > > > > > > > set, as the other parameters are deleted, all is well)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 2. option:
> > > > > > > > =======
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > each Link renders:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > dojo.event.bind(body,"load",function(){ // clear the parameter
> > > > of this link});
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > and:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > onclick="/*set parameters of this link */; form.submit();"
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > form.submit stands in both options for what we have for this in
> > > > > > > > MyFaces currently.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > regards,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Martin
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On 7/27/06, Cosma Colanicchia <co...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > With the first one, I if understand well, the trick is that
> > > > the form
> > > > > > > > > parameter will not exists on page loading after the submit, so
> > > > an old
> > > > > > > > > value will not be restored (thus no need for a clear
> > > > function).. then
> > > > > > > > > create the parameter on the fly when the user click on the
> > > > > > > > > commandLink, right?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I haven't understood the second part :-)
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 2006/7/27, Martin Marinschek <ma...@gmail.com>:
> > > > > > > > > > Well, we could queue onsubmit, and queue a second script
> > > > which will
> > > > > > > > > > add the link hidden param and the params onsubmit as well.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Or we queue onload, and then set the correct params for the
> > > > one link
> > > > > > > > > > that has been clicked.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > regards,
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Martin
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On 7/27/06, Cosma Colanicchia <co...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > To avoid a central method, every commandLink could queue
> > > > its own clear
> > > > > > > > > > > javascript to the body onload event, in addition to the
> > > > form onsubmit
> > > > > > > > > > > event.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Cosma
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > 2006/7/27, Martin Marinschek
> > > > <ma...@gmail.com>:
> > > > > > > > > > > > Ok, another talk with Manfred made me wiser.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > - Manfred says there is no guarantee that the clear
> > > > method will be
> > > > > > > > > > > > called after the submit has happened (he says that is
> > > > browser
> > > > > > > > > > > > dependent)
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > - this is why _all_ hidden parameters and child params
> > > > of all links
> > > > > > > > > > > > need to be cleared out in the beginning, and why there
> > > > is a central
> > > > > > > > > > > > clear method, which is called before the submit actually
> > > > happens
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > - so even when you have a cached submit value (due to
> > > > browser-back),
> > > > > > > > > > > > it is cleared out before the submit
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > regards,
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Martin
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > On 7/27/06, Martin Marinschek
> > > > <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Plan of action:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) render a hidden parameter _per_ link (so there are
> > > > no
> > > > > > > > > > > > > interdependencies between components)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) clear the hidden parameter(s) of the link after
> > > > submit has happened
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 3) for other frameworks, eventually clear out their
> > > > hidden
> > > > > > > > > > > > > parameter(s) as well, to cater for compatibility
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > with this we should be on our way better ;)
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > regards,
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Martin
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On 7/27/06, Martin Marinschek
> > > > <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ah, yes, now I see it - I didn't even look so far!
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > well, then the clear is pretty useless, right ;)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Martin
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 7/27/06, Cosma Colanicchia <co...@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It calls clear__5Fid0() but, some ";" after, it
> > > > does
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > document.forms['_id0'].elements['_id0:_link_hidden_'].value='_id0:_id1:1
> > > > :_id2'
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > document.forms['_id0'].elements['language'].value='en';
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At this point, the centralized clear isn't very
> > > > useful :-)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cosma
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2006/7/27, Martin Marinschek
> > > > <ma...@gmail.com>:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Cosma,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I probably don't see something obvious - but how
> > > > can our current
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > script work at all, if we call the clear method
> > > > before we call submit?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This should reset the parameter, right?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > onclick="clear__5Fid0();document.forms['_id0'].elements['autoScroll'].va
> > > > lue=getScrolling();document.forms['_id0'].elements['_id0:_link_hidden_']
> > > > .value='_id0:_id1:1:_id2';document.forms['_id0'].elements['language'].va
> > > > lue='en';if(document.forms['_id0'].onsubmit){var
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > result=document.forms['_id0'].onsubmit(); if(
> > > > (typeof result ==
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 'undefined') || result )
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > {document.forms['_id0'].submit();}}else{document.forms['_id0'].submit();
> > > > }return
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > false;"
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I do know it works, but how ;) ?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Martin
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 7/27/06, Cosma Colanicchia
> > > > <co...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2006/7/27, Martin Marinschek
> > > > <ma...@gmail.com>:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just discussed with Manfred, and this is how
> > > > it should work:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if you click on a link, a hidden parameter
> > > > is set, then the form is
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > submitted, and then the hidden parameter is
> > > > cleared out again.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Manfred means that it doesn't matter if
> > > > there is one parameter per
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > link or one parameter for the whole form,
> > > > the renderer needs to work
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > correctly, though. If we have links from
> > > > several frameworks in the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > game, it should probably be one parameter
> > > > per link, right?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ok, having an hidden field for each single
> > > > link would avoid
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dependecies among components, that's fine.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In any case, I don't see how the current
> > > > javascript method does
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > anything even close to this behaviour...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It seems to me that this is exactly the
> > > > behaviour of MyFaces
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > commandLink component, except for the "common"
> > > > hidden parameter. I
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > don't know how Trinidad implements
> > > > commandLinks... I'll take I look
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ASAP :-)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Martin
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bye
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cosma
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 7/27/06, Cosma Colanicchia
> > > > <co...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > P.S. I mean the generated html of course,
> > > > not the jsf source :)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2006/7/27, Cosma Colanicchia
> > > > <co...@gmail.com>:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you explain me better how do you
> > > > mean for "clears all hidden
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fields for all links, and their
> > > > parameters"? I'm looking at the source
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of this page:
> > > > http://www.irian.at/home.jsf (I don't have a myfaces
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > playground to experiment with at this
> > > > time), and I don't see an hidden
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > field for *each* commandLink, I see two
> > > > forms, so two _link_hidden_
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fields and two clear methods..
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cosma
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2006/7/27, Martin Marinschek
> > > > <ma...@gmail.com>:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, as it is implemented in MyFaces
> > > > currently, it clears all hidden
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > fields for all links, and their
> > > > parameters, right?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Martin
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 7/27/06, Cosma Colanicchia
> > > > <co...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Martin,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm trying to understand how links
> > > > work. We have:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - single "_link_hidden_" field in
> > > > the form
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - a single function in the form that
> > > > clear _link_hidden_ value and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > reset the form target
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - every link in the onClick call the
> > > > clear function, set it own id in
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _link_hidden_, then call the
> > > > onsubmit form handler (checking the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > return value), and finally submit
> > > > the form
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why the clear method should know
> > > > about every links? It seems that it
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > just clear the _link_hidden_ field..
> > > > I must be missing something
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cosma
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2006/7/27, Martin Marinschek
> > > > <ma...@gmail.com>:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Cosma,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think it was developed this way
> > > > cause the clear method needed to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > know about all links anyways, so
> > > > it was centrally done.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, the component namespace
> > > > standard is definitely a good idea. If we
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > find a clean solution to do this
> > > > in MyFaces, I think that both
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Trinidad and the RI will be happy
> > > > to build on this as well.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Martin
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 7/27/06, Cosma Colanicchia
> > > > <co...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Using a central way is not my
> > > > option, I only said that, being it the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > way things are currently
> > > > implemented, there should be a clear
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > advantage for switching now.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thinking about first solution, I
> > > > think you're right. The thing I
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > didn't like is the hack of
> > > > adding hidden form fields to the DOM using
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > javascript, but I agree on
> > > > having component's renderer simply write
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > out the <input type="hidden"
> > > > .../> along the other html..
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The only thing I could add is
> > > > some component "namespace" standard to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > avoid parameters collision.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > BTW, do you remember why the
> > > > hidden fields form service was
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > implemented, instead of going
> > > > this way?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cosma
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2006/7/27, Martin Marinschek
> > > > <ma...@gmail.com>:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > P.S.: your option - using a
> > > > central way of doing this - is nothing I
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > would fancy. That's where we
> > > > are right now, and it doesn't help us
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with compatibility, really.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Martin
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 7/27/06, Martin Marinschek
> > > > <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, that is the second
> > > > thing - we'll need the component let add
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hidden parameters to the
> > > > form.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now, as the component is
> > > > embedded in the form, why can it not just
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > render out the hidden
> > > > element?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This doesn't remind me of
> > > > BASIC at all, but of component orientation -
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > everything that the
> > > > component needs should be wrapped up in the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > component itself, don't you
> > > > think so?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Where does the need of
> > > > dynamically added client-side fields stem from
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > again, I don't see it right
> > > > now?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What needs to be added
> > > > dynamically is the clear-script. And this
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > really is complicated, it
> > > > touches the base of what dojo has to offer
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with its event system. I
> > > > don't know if we can replicate this without
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > having a dependency on dojo
> > > > in our implementation, and I'm pretty sure
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we don't want this. Does
> > > > somebody know how
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dojo.event.bind()
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > works under the covers, and
> > > > if it's easy (meaning one or two
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > javascript functions) to
> > > > replicate?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Martin
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 7/26/06, Cosma
> > > > Colanicchia <co...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Martin,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am not sure that the
> > > > problem is related only to links.. there can be
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > other components that need
> > > > an hidden form parameter.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For example, JSCookMenu
> > > > encodes the links in the html with some
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > special prefix syntax, set
> > > > this value in an hidden form named
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "jscook_action" on click,
> > > > and intercept and decode it in the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > server-side decode logic.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think that the choice is
> > > > between letting every component to add
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hidden fields dynamically
> > > > on the DOM (dojo can help? its not that
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > difficult anyway), or
> > > > provide some sort of central service to do so,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > that's the current
> > > > approach.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > First solution doesn't
> > > > create dependency between components, but I
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > don't like very much.. it
> > > > reminds me of those BASIC programs that used
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > variables without
> > > > declaring them ;) On the other hand second solution
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > does create dependency,
> > > > and we must be careful to allow mixing
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > component libraries.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any thoughts?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cosma
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2006/7/26, Martin
> > > > Marinschek <ma...@gmail.com>:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That's the
> > > > clear-problem, right?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For this problem, this
> > > > is what I was thinking about:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > every link renders a
> > > > javascript which adds a function as an onsubmit-handler
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > dojo.event.bind(form,"submit",myFunction() { clearLink and param} );
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so there would be no
> > > > central clear script anymore, but each link would
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > clear itself, we'd loose
> > > > the interdependency between link and form.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Martin
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 7/19/06, Cosma
> > > > Colanicchia <co...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Take a look at how the
> > > > addHiddenCommandParameter is implemented in
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > HtmlFormRendererBase:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > public static void
> > > > addHiddenCommandParameter(UIComponent form,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > String paramName)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > {
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Set set =
> > > > (Set)form.getAttributes().get(HIDDEN_COMMAND_INPUTS_SET_ATTR);
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > if (set ==
> > > > null)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > {
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > set = new
> > > > HashSet();
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > form.getAttributes().put(HIDDEN_COMMAND_INPUTS_SET_ATTR, set);
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > }
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > set.add(paramName);
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > }
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This has no dependency
> > > > at all on the HtmlFormRendererBase, not even on
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > UIForm. It simply add
> > > > an attribute with a particular name on a generic
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > UIComponent.
> > > > Somewhere, something will read that attribute and create
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the hidden links.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We could simply:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) Move this method
> > > > and the HIDDEN_COMMAND_INPUTS_SET_ATTR constant
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > outside of the
> > > > HtmlFormRendererBase, maybe in
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > shared\util\_ComponentUtils.java
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) Define the same
> > > > constant and create a method that does the same
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thing in some
> > > > Trinidad's util class
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3) Have the Trinidad
> > > > form renderer look at that attribute, and render
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the requested hidden
> > > > fields just as HtmlFormRendererBase does.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This way, any Trinidad
> > > > and MyFaces/Tomahawk component can find the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > parent form (without
> > > > caring if it is a Trinidad or a MyFaces one) and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ask for an hidden
> > > > field with the respective utility method.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What do you think
> > > > about this? The only ungly thing is having the same
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > constant/method in two
> > > > different places, but as long as we'll keep the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > two codebases
> > > > separated I don't think that much can be done on this.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cosma
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2006/7/19, Cosma
> > > > Colanicchia <co...@gmail.com>:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any ideas on this?
> > > > :-)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cosma
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2006/7/17, Cosma
> > > > Colanicchia <co...@gmail.com>:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Adam, technically
> > > > it could be done, but I'm wondering where we can do that.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Having some
> > > > centralized code in a renderer that inject the javascript
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > don't bring us
> > > > again on the same problem? (it would be
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > renderer-dependent)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In my hack, is the
> > > > routine itself that manipulate the DOM, but I don't
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > think this
> > > > solution can be adopted at large scale.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cosma
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2006/7/17, Adam
> > > > Winer <aw...@gmail.com>:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Modern browsers
> > > > have no difficulty being told to add hidden fields
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to the DOM on
> > > > the fly; MyFaces could use this solution, which
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Trinidad uses
> > > > (at least in some parts of the code).
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- Adam
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 7/17/06,
> > > > Cosma Colanicchia <co...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This makes
> > > > things more complex.. anyway, I don't clearly see your
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > solution: will
> > > > it solve the JSCookMenu problem? There we have a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > javascript
> > > > code that explicitly search a form field with a fixed name
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (see
> > > > MyFacesHack.js), that is added by the form renderer.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Question: is
> > > > there any reason for components that need an hidden
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > field, to
> > > > dinamically add one component to the tree that renders it? I
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > see two
> > > > problem with this:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) If it is
> > > > done in the renderer of component A child of form B, are
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we sure that a
> > > > child added to B at this stage would get rendered?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) Does a
> > > > standard component to render an hidden field that is not
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > value-bounded
> > > > exists?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cosma
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2006/7/17,
> > > > Martin Marinschek <ma...@gmail.com>:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Right now,
> > > > no way. We don't have a common codebase between Trinidad
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and
> > > > Tomahawk. I wonder if this is a problem that can be solved on a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > purely
> > > > javascript basis - client side. How about each link attaching
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > itself as a
> > > > submit handler?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Werner, what
> > > > do you think? Javascript nightmares ahead?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Martin
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 7/17/06,
> > > > Cosma Colanicchia <co...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > First
> > > > attemp:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > move
> > > > addHiddenCommandParameter method in an external interface (such
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > as
> > > > FormRendererUtils), and make both Trinidad and MyFaces form
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > renderers
> > > > implement it. Components that need that service must then
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > code
> > > > against that interface, and deal with renderers that doesn't
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > implement
> > > > it.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At least,
> > > > this way we can control/check at compile time the usage of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > those
> > > > non-standard services.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cosma
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2006/7/17,
> > > > Martin Marinschek <ma...@gmail.com>:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We
> > > > should fix this. Once and for all.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any
> > > > suggestions?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Martin
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On
> > > > 7/17/06, Cosma Colanicchia <co...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I've
> > > > only modified the JSCookMenu javascript to create that field
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > DOM if it isn't there. It's not an elegant solution, I know..
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cosma
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > 2006/7/17, Cosma Colanicchia <co...@gmail.com>:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > P.S.
> > > > I think that a component relying on other renderers isn't a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > good
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > design and we should try to avoid it..
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > 2006/7/17, Cosma Colanicchia <co...@gmail.com>:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It
> > > > looks like Martin has done a similar work, fixing all the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > form
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > searching routines, so that part of my patch should be
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dropped. The
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > addHiddenCommandParameter problem seems to be still there.. do
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we want
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to
> > > > wait for a complete solution or, in the meantime, apply the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > js hack
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to
> > > > make JSCookMenu work?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > Cosma
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > 2006/7/17, Cosma Colanicchia <co...@gmail.com>:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > Yes, I mean TOMAHAWK-516, it includes a change that is very
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > similar to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > the Martin code, with other things:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > 1) The _ComponentUtils method is not used everywhere. For
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > example,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > HtmlJSCookMenuRenderer implements one of its own, and other
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > rendererers do it as well. I tried to refactor those method
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to use the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > _ComponentUtils one, see the JIRA for details.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > 2) Another potential source of trouble for Trinidad/Tomahawk
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > integration is the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > HtmlFormRendererBase.addHiddenCommandParameter
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > method. This is called at least by the JSCookMenu (but
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > presumibly
> > > > also
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > by other components) to queue adding hidden form parameters,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but with
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > that rendered will not be used in a Trinidad project leading
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > javascript errors. In my patch for JSCookMenu I workarounded
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > hacking into MyFacesHack.js, but I think it should be
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > addressed
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > someway.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > Well I don't know SVN very well, but if it works as CVS we
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > have two
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > different patch applied to the same lines of code (the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > _ComponentUtils.findNestingForm method), so a merge will be
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > required
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > if TOMAHAWK-516 will be commited.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > Cosma
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > 2006/7/17, Matthias Wessendorf <ma...@apache.org>:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > Yes that stuff is committed. _CompontUtils too.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > You mean TOMAHAWK-516 ? I just asigned it to me.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > Will (or must) take a look on it.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > Can you please give an update of the status ?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > Also what's the *conflict* now is?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > Would be great!
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > -Matthias
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > On 7/16/06, Cosma Colanicchia <co...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > Martin,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > have you already committed that change? As I pointed out
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in another
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > thread, I've submitted a patch that will likely conflict
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with yours if
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > commited.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > Ciao
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > Cosma
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > 2006/7/17, Martin Marinschek <
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > martin.marinschek@gmail.com>:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > As a workaround for the form problem, I've made the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > form searching
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > routing of MyFaces aware of the Trinidad form family -
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so the
> > > > trinidad
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > form should be found as well.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'd be glad about any test results!
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > regards,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Martin
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 5/26/06, Cosma Colanicchia <co...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thomas, I'm using the MyFaces RI. I think that the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > <t:commandLink>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > problem is related to *not* using the MyFaces
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > renderer for
> > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > <h:form> component (like in TOMAHAWK-416).
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 2006/5/25, Thomas Spiegl <th...@gmail.com>:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Cosma, seems like you are using the Sun RI as JSF
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > implementation.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > see
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/TOMAHAWK-416
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On 5/25/06, Martin Marinschek <
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > martin.marinschek@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > So it is a must that a renderer for a certain
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > component
> > > > family needs
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > to be able to render out all components
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > belonging to
> > > > this family? I
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > don't see why you couldn't just use a different
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > renderer-type
> > > > for the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > UIXForm component...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > regards,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Martin
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On 5/24/06, Adam Winer <aw...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > On 5/24/06, Martin Marinschek <
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > martin.marinschek@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Adam,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > I don't remember a thread talking about
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > component
> > > > families, we only
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > talked about extending from UIForm - so
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > UIXForm does
> > > > not even have the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > same component family as UIForm?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > No, it doesn't, which is more-or-less implied
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > by not
> > > > extending UIForm.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > In general, component family should follow
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > subclassing
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > as well, because otherwise you'd get
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > ClassCastExceptions in
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Renderers.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > -- Adam
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > regards,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Martin
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > On 5/24/06, Adam Winer <aw...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Actually, probably not... UIXForm is in a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > different
> > > > component
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > family from UIForm. (An earlier thread
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > talked about
> > > > that.)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > -- Adam
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On 5/24/06, Martin Marinschek <
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > martin.marinschek@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Problem 1) should have been fixed by
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mario's recent
> > > > addition of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > searching for the component family
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > instead of the
> > > > instance of UIForm.
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > cosmacol@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I've done some other tries:
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > a dummy form
> > > > and its clear
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > method are created. Clicking on
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > <t:commandLink> or
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <t:commandSortHeader> does trigger a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > submit, but
> > > > the expected
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > behaviour isn't executed. Probably
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this is
> > > > because the _link_hidden_
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > value is set telling JSF that a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > "linkDummyForm:commandLinkId" has been
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > triggered, but the actual name of the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > component is
> > > > different (its name
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > contaner has a different id).
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the dummy form
> > > > isn't created
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> > > > parent form), but no
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > clear_ method is generated in the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > page, so the
> > > > onclick javascript
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > cosmacol@gmail.com>:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It would be useful to share info
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > about making
> > > > they work togheter, if
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > someone has resolved these problems.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anyway I'm using the latest
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > snapshots..
> > > > and I tried with both <h:form>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and <af:form>. I had some issues
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with dummyForm
> > > > at first, if I can get
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > some detail I'll try to post it
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tomorrow, now
> > > > I'm leaving the office.
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > matzew@apache.org>:
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > time by time there are people on
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the list,
> > > > using both.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > MyFaces (incl. Tomahawk) and ADF
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Faces
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) <t:commandLink>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > components
> > > > (and <t:commandSortHeader>s) don't work,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > because the MyFaces
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > javascript
> > > > functions such as clear_myFormId don't get
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > generated. Also the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > _link_hidden_form isn't generated anymore. The rendered
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > HTML includes the string
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <!-- MYFACES
> > > > JAVASCRIPT -->, and looking at the
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > stack I can see that both
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the adfFaces
> > > > and the ExtensionsFilter are invoked,
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > but no MyFaces script are
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > actually
> > > > rendered in the page.
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> > > > this may be a MyFaces
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bug; I know there's been some
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > discussion on
> > > > the main MyFaces
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > list about issues like this.
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > carefully in
> > > > the archives.. do you know if
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> > > > Tomahawk and ADF Faces in a
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > project?
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