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creating a good mod_perl ad-banner
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Per Einar Ellefsen wrote:
>> also if I don't know what modperl is, I'd never understand from the
>> message on the banner (I know it's easy to criticize, as I didn't do one
>> :). So need some ideas here if you agree with me. Also some graphics will
>> make the banner more attractive, anybody knows some graphic designers?
>
>
> I appreciate constructive criticism, but don't plan to spend too much
> time on these banners either. However, I totally agree with that
> comment. I think we can have several banners though.
>
> Maybe one like this:
> - Tired of waiting ...?
> - Love Perl and Apache?
> - What you need is...
> - [modperl]
> - Use it *now*!
None of these tells you what it is! So it's not different from Speed,
Power, Whatever. Which may be intriguing, but unfortunately we aren't in
1997, where I was creating banners saying just "Click Me!".
We need to have a message, which makes it clear that this:
first a webserver
second running on Apache and Perl
third, else
Now you can clearly see the problem with the new logo: it gives no clue
what it is. I'd think that people didn't think too broad when they've
voted for it. So I suggest to cure that bug with putting the Apache
feather and Camel inside the banner. Having these two solves most of the
problem.
> About graphics: I thought maybe it would be cool to have a bullet going
> through the logo and the caption "Faster than a speeding bullet", but
> that's way out of my scale. I don't know any good graphic designers either.
Anyway, that's a good idea, probably need to log it in TODO while we
don't have any other better place.
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Re: creating a good mod_perl ad-banner
Posted by Stas Bekman <st...@stason.org>.
Per Einar Ellefsen wrote:
>>> Should we organize a contest? It would need pretty strict rules
>>> though, to get something that represents mod_perl in a good way and
>>> re-uses the current logo. I think it might be hard compared to having
>>> a designer do the job though.
>>
>>
>> Well, you can try of course. My attempts weren't successful so far.
>> if you do, we need to discuss the requirements first. See my post
>> about a month ago to the modperl list which has already specified many
>> of them.
>
>
> Well, you asked for someone to take care of it, but everyone was too
> lazy. I could try and organize this... if it's really needed. I saw your
> post, that's what I based my banners on.
Yes, thanks a lot! :)
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Re: creating a good mod_perl ad-banner
Posted by Per Einar Ellefsen <pe...@skynet.be>.
At 19:54 06.06.2002, Stas Bekman wrote:
>>>Now you can clearly see the problem with the new logo: it gives no clue
>>>what it is. I'd think that people didn't think too broad when they've
>>>voted for it. So I suggest to cure that bug with putting the Apache
>>>feather and Camel inside the banner. Having these two solves most of the
>>>problem.
>>
>>It's not about not thinking broad enough -- they voted for the best
>>design, which was a good point for itself. For those 2 in the banner,
>>that's true, it would be a plus.
>
>IMHO, that was an omission in the rules of the contest. I believe the
>Apache and/or Perl mascot should have been a requirement. I'd rather see a
>camel head instead of cogs. I've no clue what 'cogs' have to do with
>mod_perl and what does it help to mod_perl to attract more people.
:-) They look cool though. Brings a little "new" trademark to mod_perl, to
differenciate ourselves from Apache and Perl... Anyway, stop worrying about it!
>>Should we organize a contest? It would need pretty strict rules though,
>>to get something that represents mod_perl in a good way and re-uses the
>>current logo. I think it might be hard compared to having a designer do
>>the job though.
>
>Well, you can try of course. My attempts weren't successful so far.
>if you do, we need to discuss the requirements first. See my post about a
>month ago to the modperl list which has already specified many of them.
Well, you asked for someone to take care of it, but everyone was too lazy.
I could try and organize this... if it's really needed. I saw your post,
that's what I based my banners on.
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Re: creating a good mod_perl ad-banner
Posted by Stas Bekman <st...@stason.org>.
>> Now you can clearly see the problem with the new logo: it gives no
>> clue what it is. I'd think that people didn't think too broad when
>> they've voted for it. So I suggest to cure that bug with putting the
>> Apache feather and Camel inside the banner. Having these two solves
>> most of the problem.
>
>
> It's not about not thinking broad enough -- they voted for the best
> design, which was a good point for itself. For those 2 in the banner,
> that's true, it would be a plus.
IMHO, that was an omission in the rules of the contest. I believe the
Apache and/or Perl mascot should have been a requirement. I'd rather see
a camel head instead of cogs. I've no clue what 'cogs' have to do with
mod_perl and what does it help to mod_perl to attract more people.
>>> About graphics: I thought maybe it would be cool to have a bullet
>>> going through the logo and the caption "Faster than a speeding
>>> bullet", but that's way out of my scale. I don't know any good
>>> graphic designers either.
>>
>>
>> Anyway, that's a good idea, probably need to log it in TODO while we
>> don't have any other better place.
>
>
> Logged in TODO. Should we organize a contest? It would need pretty
> strict rules though, to get something that represents mod_perl in a good
> way and re-uses the current logo. I think it might be hard compared to
> having a designer do the job though.
Well, you can try of course. My attempts weren't successful so far.
if you do, we need to discuss the requirements first. See my post about
a month ago to the modperl list which has already specified many of them.
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Re: creating a good mod_perl ad-banner
Posted by Per Einar Ellefsen <pe...@skynet.be>.
At 18:19 04.06.2002, Stas Bekman wrote:
>>Maybe one like this:
>>- Tired of waiting ...?
>>- Love Perl and Apache?
>>- What you need is...
>>- [modperl]
>>- Use it *now*!
>
>None of these tells you what it is! So it's not different from Speed,
>Power, Whatever. Which may be intriguing, but unfortunately we aren't in
>1997, where I was creating banners saying just "Click Me!".
Yeah, I see... I suck at this :)
>We need to have a message, which makes it clear that this:
>
>first a webserver
>second running on Apache and Perl
>third, else
Agreed.
>Now you can clearly see the problem with the new logo: it gives no clue
>what it is. I'd think that people didn't think too broad when they've
>voted for it. So I suggest to cure that bug with putting the Apache
>feather and Camel inside the banner. Having these two solves most of the
>problem.
It's not about not thinking broad enough -- they voted for the best design,
which was a good point for itself. For those 2 in the banner, that's true,
it would be a plus.
>>About graphics: I thought maybe it would be cool to have a bullet going
>>through the logo and the caption "Faster than a speeding bullet", but
>>that's way out of my scale. I don't know any good graphic designers either.
>
>Anyway, that's a good idea, probably need to log it in TODO while we don't
>have any other better place.
Logged in TODO. Should we organize a contest? It would need pretty strict
rules though, to get something that represents mod_perl in a good way and
re-uses the current logo. I think it might be hard compared to having a
designer do the job though.
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Per Einar Ellefsen
per.einar@skynet.be
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