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Posted to dev@flex.apache.org by "Guthmann, Scott" <sg...@on3solutions.com> on 2013/01/06 23:17:43 UTC
[Marketing] - Telling the world that we are a TLP...
> Now that we are a TLP and flex.apache.org is up and running, how do we tell that to the world?
I would like to help with this project. I am drafting the format for a press release (PR) and I will volunteer to be the press contact. I can also help with copy editing. However, I will need someone to help me fill in the content. This document should be 400 - 500 words in 4 - 5 paragraphs. The elements in the document I am formatting are listed here [1].
The PR piece needs to answer a few questions in my view:
What has just been released, by who, & how was the work done?
Why should the business manager use Apache Flex (the open source release) instead of another development language?
=> list the most important business benefits of Apache Flex 4.9 in this area.
Why should current application owners upgrade their existing Adobe Flex applications to the community release?
=> add quote in this section
What capabilities does the Apache Flex release 4.9 have for business managers and developers that Adobe Flex 4.6 does not?
=> add quote in this section
Because this new SDK was released, what breakthroughs have occurred? (is it first? is it best? is it preferred? is it the only?)
=> add quote in this section
There should be 2 - 3 quotes in it from a couple of developers involved in the project that adds credibility to the piece.
[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Press_release#Elements
RE: [Marketing] - Telling the world that we are a TLP...
Posted by Michael Schmalle <ap...@teotigraphix.com>.
Ha,
I don't think I am interview quality Scott. :)
I am more of a down in the trenches fighter, than social tact and
eloquence. Although I admire those that have it.
Mike
Quoting "Guthmann, Scott" <sg...@on3solutions.com>:
>> From: Michael Schmalle [mailto:apache@teotigraphix.com]
>> That is not journalism, that is a blog post, plain and simple.
>> Mike
>
> We are counting on those within the project and authors who do not
> agree to write blog articles that provide accurate information. I
> think this blog author gets the "conversation" started. We will see
> if we start to see others take a different view or just agree with
> this author who has been following the developments closely....
>
>
>> Quoting Harbs <ha...@gmail.com>:
>> Pretty poor piece of "journalism" to be sure?
>> It's a shame that people report dogma rather than fact.
>
> When / if we hear from Sally that someone would like to write a
> feature story about the project and needs to interview someone; I
> now have 3 volunteers - 1) Harbs, 2)Michael Schmalle, and 3) Om.
>
>
>> On Jan 14, 2013, at 8:20 PM, Om wrote:
>>> Thanks for getting this done and putting it out to the world, Scott.
>>> Fantastic job!
>>> In fact, it has already begun:
>>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/01/14/adobe_flex_apache/
>>> Not exactly a glowing article, but it is press nevertheless! I am
>>> sure there will be more.
>
> I agree with this opinion. Press is good & it puts Apache Flex back
> in the news. We can leverage this news into recruitment of other
> volunteers to help build a product so cool, even Apple will decide
> to build apps with it! (LOL! - hyperbole - I concede this is
> unlikely.)
>
--
Michael Schmalle - Teoti Graphix, LLC
http://www.teotigraphix.com
http://blog.teotigraphix.com
RE: [Marketing] - Telling the world that we are a TLP...
Posted by "Guthmann, Scott" <sg...@on3solutions.com>.
> From: Michael Schmalle [mailto:apache@teotigraphix.com]
> That is not journalism, that is a blog post, plain and simple.
> Mike
We are counting on those within the project and authors who do not agree to write blog articles that provide accurate information. I think this blog author gets the "conversation" started. We will see if we start to see others take a different view or just agree with this author who has been following the developments closely....
> Quoting Harbs <ha...@gmail.com>:
> Pretty poor piece of "journalism" to be sure?
> It's a shame that people report dogma rather than fact.
When / if we hear from Sally that someone would like to write a feature story about the project and needs to interview someone; I now have 3 volunteers - 1) Harbs, 2)Michael Schmalle, and 3) Om.
> On Jan 14, 2013, at 8:20 PM, Om wrote:
>> Thanks for getting this done and putting it out to the world, Scott.
>> Fantastic job!
>> In fact, it has already begun:
>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/01/14/adobe_flex_apache/
>> Not exactly a glowing article, but it is press nevertheless! I am
>> sure there will be more.
I agree with this opinion. Press is good & it puts Apache Flex back in the news. We can leverage this news into recruitment of other volunteers to help build a product so cool, even Apple will decide to build apps with it! (LOL! - hyperbole - I concede this is unlikely.)
Re: [Marketing] - Telling the world that we are a TLP...
Posted by Harbs <ha...@gmail.com>.
Yeah. It was an attempt at sarcasm…
On Jan 14, 2013, at 9:11 PM, Michael Schmalle wrote:
> That is not journalism, that is a blog post, plain and simple.
>
> Mike
>
> Quoting Harbs <ha...@gmail.com>:
>
>> Pretty poor piece of "journalism" to be sure?
>>
>> It's a shame that people report dogma rather than fact.
>>
>> On Jan 14, 2013, at 8:20 PM, Om wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for getting this done and putting it out to the world, Scott.
>>> Fantastic job!
>>>
>>> In fact, it has already begun:
>>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/01/14/adobe_flex_apache/
>>> Not exactly a glowing article, but it is press nevertheless! I am sure
>>> there will be more.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Om
>>> On Jan 14, 2013 8:39 AM, "Guthmann, Scott" <sg...@on3solutions.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The Press Release is out. Please spread the word. Please tweet, Please
>>>> Blog, Please share on your social networks.
>>>>
>>>> Please encourage others to join the mailing list and help in all the ways
>>>> they feel comfortable.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://globenewswire.com/news-release/2013/01/14/516186/10017952/en/The-Apache-Software-Foundation-Announces-Apache-Flex-tm-as-a-Top-Level-Project.html
>>>>
>>>> The project improves IMO when there are more volunteers doing work for the
>>>> project and donating code and time. Why I mention this is to provide you
>>>> with a good reason to promote. If there are more volunteers, the support
>>>> improves, the releases come more quickly, there are more wiki editors, and
>>>> documentation editors, more examples are written, more provide reference
>>>> applications.
>>>>
>>>> We should see many mentions and news articles written over the coming
>>>> days. It is an exciting time!
>>>>
>>
>>
>
> --
> Michael Schmalle - Teoti Graphix, LLC
> http://www.teotigraphix.com
> http://blog.teotigraphix.com
>
Re: [Marketing] - Telling the world that we are a TLP...
Posted by Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>.
Hi,
A few more:
http://jaxenter.com/apache-flex-gains-top-level-project-status-but-is-it-too-late-45999.html
http://www.eweek.com/developer/apache-software-foundation-delivers-flex-as-top-level-project/
http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Flex-Flash-app-platform-becomes-Apache-top-level-project-1783516.html
And pops up in German and Russian and Japanese!
http://www.heise.de/developer/meldung/Flash-Anwendungen-Flex-nun-Top-Level-Projekt-von-Apache-1783242.html
http://www.vanderboot.ru/rnews.php?hh=art.shtml?num=35827
http://japanese.mobilenapps.com/articles/5326/20130114/apache-flex-4-9-top-level-project.htm?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
Also lots of tweets including one referring to the "Adobe Software Foundation" :-)
Justin
RE: [Marketing] - Telling the world that we are a TLP...
Posted by "Guthmann, Scott" <sg...@on3solutions.com>.
Subject: Re: Announcing Apache Flex TLP + v4.9 [was Re: Thank you for taking my call]
Good morning, everyone. We are live --
-NASDAQ GlobeNewswire [1]
-ASF Blog [2]
-@TheASF Twitter Feed [3]
...as well as to [4] and our dedicated media/analyst list. This will appear on the apache.org homepage after the next auto-update, which should take place within the hour, if not sooner.
We're good publicity-wise: lots of re-tweets and buzz [5]
[1] http://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2013/01/14/516186/10017952/en/The-Apache-Software-Foundation-Announces-Apache-Flex-tm-as-a-Top-Level-Project.html
[2] http://s.apache.org/gS
[3] https://twitter.com/TheASF/status/290775445559984128
[4] announce@apache.org
[5] https://twitter.com/search/realtime?q=apache+flex&src=typd
Re: [Marketing] - Telling the world that we are a TLP...
Posted by Michael Schmalle <ap...@teotigraphix.com>.
That is not journalism, that is a blog post, plain and simple.
Mike
Quoting Harbs <ha...@gmail.com>:
> Pretty poor piece of "journalism" to be sure?
>
> It's a shame that people report dogma rather than fact.
>
> On Jan 14, 2013, at 8:20 PM, Om wrote:
>
>> Thanks for getting this done and putting it out to the world, Scott.
>> Fantastic job!
>>
>> In fact, it has already begun:
>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/01/14/adobe_flex_apache/
>> Not exactly a glowing article, but it is press nevertheless! I am sure
>> there will be more.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Om
>> On Jan 14, 2013 8:39 AM, "Guthmann, Scott" <sg...@on3solutions.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> The Press Release is out. Please spread the word. Please tweet, Please
>>> Blog, Please share on your social networks.
>>>
>>> Please encourage others to join the mailing list and help in all the ways
>>> they feel comfortable.
>>>
>>>
>>> http://globenewswire.com/news-release/2013/01/14/516186/10017952/en/The-Apache-Software-Foundation-Announces-Apache-Flex-tm-as-a-Top-Level-Project.html
>>>
>>> The project improves IMO when there are more volunteers doing work for the
>>> project and donating code and time. Why I mention this is to provide you
>>> with a good reason to promote. If there are more volunteers, the support
>>> improves, the releases come more quickly, there are more wiki editors, and
>>> documentation editors, more examples are written, more provide reference
>>> applications.
>>>
>>> We should see many mentions and news articles written over the coming
>>> days. It is an exciting time!
>>>
>
>
--
Michael Schmalle - Teoti Graphix, LLC
http://www.teotigraphix.com
http://blog.teotigraphix.com
Re: [Marketing] - Telling the world that we are a TLP...
Posted by Harbs <ha...@gmail.com>.
Pretty poor piece of "journalism" to be sure…
It's a shame that people report dogma rather than fact.
On Jan 14, 2013, at 8:20 PM, Om wrote:
> Thanks for getting this done and putting it out to the world, Scott.
> Fantastic job!
>
> In fact, it has already begun:
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/01/14/adobe_flex_apache/
> Not exactly a glowing article, but it is press nevertheless! I am sure
> there will be more.
>
> Thanks,
> Om
> On Jan 14, 2013 8:39 AM, "Guthmann, Scott" <sg...@on3solutions.com>
> wrote:
>
>> The Press Release is out. Please spread the word. Please tweet, Please
>> Blog, Please share on your social networks.
>>
>> Please encourage others to join the mailing list and help in all the ways
>> they feel comfortable.
>>
>>
>> http://globenewswire.com/news-release/2013/01/14/516186/10017952/en/The-Apache-Software-Foundation-Announces-Apache-Flex-tm-as-a-Top-Level-Project.html
>>
>> The project improves IMO when there are more volunteers doing work for the
>> project and donating code and time. Why I mention this is to provide you
>> with a good reason to promote. If there are more volunteers, the support
>> improves, the releases come more quickly, there are more wiki editors, and
>> documentation editors, more examples are written, more provide reference
>> applications.
>>
>> We should see many mentions and news articles written over the coming
>> days. It is an exciting time!
>>
RE: [Marketing] - Telling the world that we are a TLP...
Posted by Om <bi...@gmail.com>.
Thanks for getting this done and putting it out to the world, Scott.
Fantastic job!
In fact, it has already begun:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/01/14/adobe_flex_apache/
Not exactly a glowing article, but it is press nevertheless! I am sure
there will be more.
Thanks,
Om
On Jan 14, 2013 8:39 AM, "Guthmann, Scott" <sg...@on3solutions.com>
wrote:
> The Press Release is out. Please spread the word. Please tweet, Please
> Blog, Please share on your social networks.
>
> Please encourage others to join the mailing list and help in all the ways
> they feel comfortable.
>
>
> http://globenewswire.com/news-release/2013/01/14/516186/10017952/en/The-Apache-Software-Foundation-Announces-Apache-Flex-tm-as-a-Top-Level-Project.html
>
> The project improves IMO when there are more volunteers doing work for the
> project and donating code and time. Why I mention this is to provide you
> with a good reason to promote. If there are more volunteers, the support
> improves, the releases come more quickly, there are more wiki editors, and
> documentation editors, more examples are written, more provide reference
> applications.
>
> We should see many mentions and news articles written over the coming
> days. It is an exciting time!
>
Re: [Marketing] - Telling the world that we are a TLP...
Posted by Greg Reddin <gr...@gmail.com>.
Thanks, Scott for helping with this!
On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 10:39 AM, Guthmann, Scott <
sguthmann@on3solutions.com> wrote:
> The Press Release is out. Please spread the word. Please tweet, Please
> Blog, Please share on your social networks.
>
> Please encourage others to join the mailing list and help in all the ways
> they feel comfortable.
>
>
> http://globenewswire.com/news-release/2013/01/14/516186/10017952/en/The-Apache-Software-Foundation-Announces-Apache-Flex-tm-as-a-Top-Level-Project.html
>
> The project improves IMO when there are more volunteers doing work for the
> project and donating code and time. Why I mention this is to provide you
> with a good reason to promote. If there are more volunteers, the support
> improves, the releases come more quickly, there are more wiki editors, and
> documentation editors, more examples are written, more provide reference
> applications.
>
> We should see many mentions and news articles written over the coming
> days. It is an exciting time!
>
RE: [Marketing] - Telling the world that we are a TLP...
Posted by "Guthmann, Scott" <sg...@on3solutions.com>.
The Press Release is out. Please spread the word. Please tweet, Please Blog, Please share on your social networks.
Please encourage others to join the mailing list and help in all the ways they feel comfortable.
http://globenewswire.com/news-release/2013/01/14/516186/10017952/en/The-Apache-Software-Foundation-Announces-Apache-Flex-tm-as-a-Top-Level-Project.html
The project improves IMO when there are more volunteers doing work for the project and donating code and time. Why I mention this is to provide you with a good reason to promote. If there are more volunteers, the support improves, the releases come more quickly, there are more wiki editors, and documentation editors, more examples are written, more provide reference applications.
We should see many mentions and news articles written over the coming days. It is an exciting time!
RE: [Marketing] - Telling the world that we are a TLP...
Posted by "Guthmann, Scott" <sg...@on3solutions.com>.
> Removing "web" altogether correction has been made.
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1bThdnEJZ20y0eStK863kcLSw7joDqKhw6THVLe2dCVQ/edit
> A very similar line appears in paragraph 5 as well. Can you please update that one too?
Adobe decided that their product creates Web applications & we took this language from them. So, I left this word in their description.
Re: [Marketing] - Telling the world that we are a TLP...
Posted by Om <bi...@gmail.com>.
On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 11:08 AM, Guthmann, Scott <sguthmann@on3solutions.com
> wrote:
> > It looks good. One edit I would look at is, "The Flex framework allows
> expressive Web applications to deploy consistently on all major browsers,
> desktops and devices (including smartphones, tablets and TV). "
> > I don't know if we want to limit the description of what Flex can create
> to "Web" applications. Maybe "... allows expressive online
> applications...", "...online and offline applications..." or remove the
> word "web" all together.
> Removing "web" altogether correction has been made.
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1bThdnEJZ20y0eStK863kcLSw7joDqKhw6THVLe2dCVQ/editGood catch!
>
A very similar line appears in paragraph 5 as well. Can you please update
that one too?
Thanks,
Om
RE: [Marketing] - Telling the world that we are a TLP...
Posted by "Guthmann, Scott" <sg...@on3solutions.com>.
> It looks good. One edit I would look at is, "The Flex framework allows expressive Web applications to deploy consistently on all major browsers, desktops and devices (including smartphones, tablets and TV). "
> I don't know if we want to limit the description of what Flex can create to "Web" applications. Maybe "... allows expressive online applications...", "...online and offline applications..." or remove the word "web" all together.
Removing "web" altogether correction has been made. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1bThdnEJZ20y0eStK863kcLSw7joDqKhw6THVLe2dCVQ/edit Good catch!
Re: [Marketing] - Telling the world that we are a TLP...
Posted by Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com>.
On 1/9/13 10:43 AM, "Om" <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 10:40 AM, Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 1/9/13 10:37 AM, "Guthmann, Scott" <sg...@on3solutions.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> Scott,
>>>> It looks good. One edit I would look at is, "The Flex framework allows
>>>> expressive Web applications to deploy consistently on all major
>> browsers,
>>>> desktops and devices (including smartphones, tablets and TV). "
>>>> I don't know if we want to limit the description of what Flex can
>> create to
>>>> "Web" applications. Maybe "... allows expressive online
>> applications...",
>>>> "...online and offline applications..." or remove the word "web" all
>>>> together.
>>>
>>> I need help here. Is anyone else confused / concerned by the current
>> phrase?
>> I think you can drop the word "web".
>>
>>
> To be fair, the first paragraph on our website:
> http://flex.apache.org/says exactly that. With the term "web" in it.
> Whatever we do, lets keep
> it consistent.
>
> Thanks,
> Om
If you're editing the site, I think you could change it there too. AIR apps
aren't really "web" apps are they?
--
Alex Harui
Flex SDK Team
Adobe Systems, Inc.
http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui
Re: [Marketing] - Telling the world that we are a TLP...
Posted by Om <bi...@gmail.com>.
On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 10:40 AM, Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> On 1/9/13 10:37 AM, "Guthmann, Scott" <sg...@on3solutions.com> wrote:
>
> >> Scott,
> >> It looks good. One edit I would look at is, "The Flex framework allows
> >> expressive Web applications to deploy consistently on all major
> browsers,
> >> desktops and devices (including smartphones, tablets and TV). "
> >> I don't know if we want to limit the description of what Flex can
> create to
> >> "Web" applications. Maybe "... allows expressive online
> applications...",
> >> "...online and offline applications..." or remove the word "web" all
> >> together.
> >
> > I need help here. Is anyone else confused / concerned by the current
> phrase?
> I think you can drop the word "web".
>
>
To be fair, the first paragraph on our website:
http://flex.apache.org/says exactly that. With the term "web" in it.
Whatever we do, lets keep
it consistent.
Thanks,
Om
Re: [Marketing] - Telling the world that we are a TLP...
Posted by Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com>.
On 1/9/13 10:37 AM, "Guthmann, Scott" <sg...@on3solutions.com> wrote:
>> Scott,
>> It looks good. One edit I would look at is, "The Flex framework allows
>> expressive Web applications to deploy consistently on all major browsers,
>> desktops and devices (including smartphones, tablets and TV). "
>> I don't know if we want to limit the description of what Flex can create to
>> "Web" applications. Maybe "... allows expressive online applications...",
>> "...online and offline applications..." or remove the word "web" all
>> together.
>
> I need help here. Is anyone else confused / concerned by the current phrase?
I think you can drop the word "web".
--
Alex Harui
Flex SDK Team
Adobe Systems, Inc.
http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui
RE: [Marketing] - Telling the world that we are a TLP...
Posted by "Guthmann, Scott" <sg...@on3solutions.com>.
> Scott,
> It looks good. One edit I would look at is, "The Flex framework allows expressive Web applications to deploy consistently on all major browsers, desktops and devices (including smartphones, tablets and TV). "
> I don't know if we want to limit the description of what Flex can create to "Web" applications. Maybe "... allows expressive online applications...", "...online and offline applications..." or remove the word "web" all together.
I need help here. Is anyone else confused / concerned by the current phrase?
Re: [Marketing] - Telling the world that we are a TLP...
Posted by jude <fl...@gmail.com>.
Scott,
It looks good. One edit I would look at is, "The Flex framework allows
expressive Web applications to deploy consistently on all major browsers,
desktops and devices (including smartphones, tablets and TV). "
I don't know if we want to limit the description of what Flex can create to
"Web" applications. Maybe "... allows expressive online applications...",
"...online and offline applications..." or remove the word "web" all
together.
On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 11:34 AM, Guthmann, Scott <sguthmann@on3solutions.com
> wrote:
> On Jan 8, 2013 8:46 AM, "Greg Reddin" <gr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > One big win from this is that we're going through the process of a
> > press release now. Now that we are more aware of the process next time
> > so we can manage the timing and whatnot. There's nothing wrong with
> > the timing of this, but maybe next time we can coordinate the software
> > release with a press release coming shortly thereafter.
> > Greg
>
> I will discuss timing with Sally and see what feedback she has. In my
> mind, this PR provides information about a release than was made on
> 12-27-12 and it provides news that we are a TLP. The site mirrors and
> resources have been upgrading and we are finding errors on some of the
> drives & revised error messages.....so, this week or next week is just
> about the earliest we could send this info out.
>
>
> > The vote for the Installer ends tomorrow. If the vote tally does not
> change drastically overnight, we are in track to make the release happen by
> EOD Wednesday. A press release around this time would be perfect timing.
> If the website would be ready by
> > Friday, we should definitely wait before sending the press release out.
>
> I will discuss timing with Sally and see what feedback she has and post
> here with the advice.
>
>
> > Also, should we mention a redesigned project website in the press
> release?
>
> I do not think we should. Mentioning that we are publishing a redesigned
> website is something that we are proud of, but, isn't something a business
> application owner would find important. This is something that a business
> application owner expects to see.
>
RE: [Marketing] - Telling the world that we are a TLP...
Posted by "Guthmann, Scott" <sg...@on3solutions.com>.
On Jan 8, 2013 8:46 AM, "Greg Reddin" <gr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> One big win from this is that we're going through the process of a
> press release now. Now that we are more aware of the process next time
> so we can manage the timing and whatnot. There's nothing wrong with
> the timing of this, but maybe next time we can coordinate the software
> release with a press release coming shortly thereafter.
> Greg
I will discuss timing with Sally and see what feedback she has. In my mind, this PR provides information about a release than was made on 12-27-12 and it provides news that we are a TLP. The site mirrors and resources have been upgrading and we are finding errors on some of the drives & revised error messages.....so, this week or next week is just about the earliest we could send this info out.
> The vote for the Installer ends tomorrow. If the vote tally does not change drastically overnight, we are in track to make the release happen by EOD Wednesday. A press release around this time would be perfect timing. If the website would be ready by
> Friday, we should definitely wait before sending the press release out.
I will discuss timing with Sally and see what feedback she has and post here with the advice.
> Also, should we mention a redesigned project website in the press release?
I do not think we should. Mentioning that we are publishing a redesigned website is something that we are proud of, but, isn't something a business application owner would find important. This is something that a business application owner expects to see.
RE: [Marketing] - Telling the world that we are a TLP...
Posted by "Guthmann, Scott" <sg...@on3solutions.com>.
> Open Source, cross-platform application framework for easily building and maintaining Flash®-based applications across all major browsers, desktops and devices, including smartphones, tablets and television.
I inserted "Apache Flex is an" before the Open Source.
> Also, the "on version 4.9" doesn't make sense in the following and doesn't seem necessary:
> "Code has been donated but our work isn¹t complete to include better support for Maven and better parity between mx and spark components on version 4.9,"
I deleted "on version 4.9" from the end of this sentence.
Re: [Marketing] - Telling the world that we are a TLP...
Posted by Om <bi...@gmail.com>.
I just fixed both errors on our homepage.
On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 10:50 AM, Om <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 10:26 AM, Guthmann, Scott <
> sguthmann@on3solutions.com> wrote:
>
>> > supposed to be "... TLF (Text Layout Framework) ..."
>> Fixed. Thanks!
>>
>
> Again, our homepage [http://flex.apache.org/] has the same exact mistake.
> I will fix this right away.
>
> Thanks,
> Om
>
Re: [Marketing] - Telling the world that we are a TLP...
Posted by Om <bi...@gmail.com>.
On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 10:26 AM, Guthmann, Scott <sguthmann@on3solutions.com
> wrote:
> > supposed to be "... TLF (Text Layout Framework) ..."
> Fixed. Thanks!
>
Again, our homepage [http://flex.apache.org/] has the same exact mistake.
I will fix this right away.
Thanks,
Om
RE: [Marketing] - Telling the world that we are a TLP...
Posted by "Guthmann, Scott" <sg...@on3solutions.com>.
> supposed to be "... TLF (Text Layout Framework) ..."
Fixed. Thanks!
RE: [Marketing] - Telling the world that we are a TLP...
Posted by Michael Schmalle <ap...@teotigraphix.com>.
Am I dumb or is;
"The TLF (Text Frame Framework) was updated to version 3.0.33, and is
now included in the SDK (there is no additional step required to
download it separately)"
supposed to be "... TLF (Text Layout Framework) ..."
Mike
Quoting "Guthmann, Scott" <sg...@on3solutions.com>:
>> The vote for the Installer ends tomorrow. If the vote tally does
>> not change drastically overnight, we are in track to make the
>> release happen by EOD Wednesday. A press release around this time
>> would be perfect timing. If the website would be ready by
>> Friday, we should definitely wait before sending the press release out.
> The press release has been finalized. It is posted for your you to
> see here:
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1bThdnEJZ20y0eStK863kcLSw7joDqKhw6THVLe2dCVQ/edit. At this point, we should not make any edits unless you see a "showstopper". The content in this press release is already public and is not under embargo. So, you may feel free to share it, blog about it, and otherwise get the word
> out.
>
> Second, the Apache Publicity & Marketing team has scheduled the
> Press Release to publish to the wire services we subscribe to on
> Monday January 14th. This will give the Apache Flex website team
> (Nick K + ???) time to add all of the content to the publicly facing
> website. I understand that others are finalizing the work on the new
> version of the installer and are wrapping things up on this project,
> too. I assume someone will help Nick get all of Michelle Yaiser's
> Flex content uploaded before then....(LOL! or not....)
>
--
Michael Schmalle - Teoti Graphix, LLC
http://www.teotigraphix.com
http://blog.teotigraphix.com
Re: [Marketing] - Telling the world that we are a TLP...
Posted by Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com>.
Hi Scott,
I opened the document and it looked like the following before the dateline,
which doesn't make sense to me:
-----
The Apache Software Foundation Announces Apache Flex as a Top-Level Project
Open Source, cross-platform application framework for easily building and
maintaining Flash®-based applications across all major browsers, desktops
and devices, including smartphones, tablets and television.
------
Also, the "on version 4.9" doesn't make sense in the following and doesn't
seem necessary:
"Code has been donated but our work isn¹t complete to include better support
for Maven and better parity between mx and spark components on version 4.9,"
Other than that, it looks ok.
-ALex
On 1/9/13 10:07 AM, "Guthmann, Scott" <sg...@on3solutions.com> wrote:
>> The vote for the Installer ends tomorrow. If the vote tally does not change
>> drastically overnight, we are in track to make the release happen by EOD
>> Wednesday. A press release around this time would be perfect timing. If the
>> website would be ready by
>> Friday, we should definitely wait before sending the press release out.
> The press release has been finalized. It is posted for your you to see here:
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1bThdnEJZ20y0eStK863kcLSw7joDqKhw6THVLe2dCV
> Q/edit. At this point, we should not make any edits unless you see a
> "showstopper". The content in this press release is already public and is not
> under embargo. So, you may feel free to share it, blog about it, and otherwise
> get the word out.
>
> Second, the Apache Publicity & Marketing team has scheduled the Press Release
> to publish to the wire services we subscribe to on Monday January 14th. This
> will give the Apache Flex website team (Nick K + ???) time to add all of the
> content to the publicly facing website. I understand that others are
> finalizing the work on the new version of the installer and are wrapping
> things up on this project, too. I assume someone will help Nick get all of
> Michelle Yaiser's Flex content uploaded before then....(LOL! or not....)
--
Alex Harui
Flex SDK Team
Adobe Systems, Inc.
http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui
RE: [Marketing] - Telling the world that we are a TLP...
Posted by "Guthmann, Scott" <sg...@on3solutions.com>.
> The vote for the Installer ends tomorrow. If the vote tally does not change drastically overnight, we are in track to make the release happen by EOD Wednesday. A press release around this time would be perfect timing. If the website would be ready by
> Friday, we should definitely wait before sending the press release out.
The press release has been finalized. It is posted for your you to see here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1bThdnEJZ20y0eStK863kcLSw7joDqKhw6THVLe2dCVQ/edit. At this point, we should not make any edits unless you see a "showstopper". The content in this press release is already public and is not under embargo. So, you may feel free to share it, blog about it, and otherwise get the word out.
Second, the Apache Publicity & Marketing team has scheduled the Press Release to publish to the wire services we subscribe to on Monday January 14th. This will give the Apache Flex website team (Nick K + ???) time to add all of the content to the publicly facing website. I understand that others are finalizing the work on the new version of the installer and are wrapping things up on this project, too. I assume someone will help Nick get all of Michelle Yaiser's Flex content uploaded before then....(LOL! or not....)
Re: [Marketing] - Telling the world that we are a TLP...
Posted by Om <bi...@gmail.com>.
On Jan 8, 2013 8:46 AM, "Greg Reddin" <gr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 9:35 AM, Guthmann, Scott
> <sg...@on3solutions.com>wrote:
>
> > I am making this change and then sending this to Sally from ASF
(publicity
> > & media) I'm not sure how much work she'll need to do to our document
> > before releasing this globally.
> >
> > I hope it works & we get a few requests for interviews from writers who
> > wish to speak to those committing, contributing, and commenting to our
> > project. Stay tuned!
> >
>
> One big win from this is that we're going through the process of a press
> release now. Now that we are more aware of the process next time so we can
> manage the timing and whatnot. There's nothing wrong with the timing of
> this, but maybe next time we can coordinate the software release with a
> press release coming shortly thereafter.
>
> Greg
The vote for the Installer ends tomorrow. If the vote tally does not change
drastically overnight, we are in track to make the release happen by EOD
Wednesday. A press release around this time would be perfect timing. If
the website would be ready by Friday, we should definitely wait before
sending the press release out.
Also, should we mention a redesigned project website in the press release?
Thanks,
Om
Re: [Marketing] - Telling the world that we are a TLP...
Posted by Greg Reddin <gr...@gmail.com>.
On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 9:35 AM, Guthmann, Scott
<sg...@on3solutions.com>wrote:
> I am making this change and then sending this to Sally from ASF (publicity
> & media) I'm not sure how much work she'll need to do to our document
> before releasing this globally.
>
> I hope it works & we get a few requests for interviews from writers who
> wish to speak to those committing, contributing, and commenting to our
> project. Stay tuned!
>
One big win from this is that we're going through the process of a press
release now. Now that we are more aware of the process next time so we can
manage the timing and whatnot. There's nothing wrong with the timing of
this, but maybe next time we can coordinate the software release with a
press release coming shortly thereafter.
Greg
Re: [Marketing] - Telling the world that we are a TLP...
Posted by Nicholas Kwiatkowski <ni...@spoon.as>.
And just a heads up for timing -- assuming the moons align like they seem
to be, I could have the new website in place by Friday.. Maybe we can
coordinate the timing.
-Nick
On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 10:35 AM, Guthmann, Scott <sguthmann@on3solutions.com
> wrote:
> >One other change you made: the last bullet here:
> >"Code has been donated but our work isn¹t complete to include better
> support for Maven and better parity between mx and spark components on
> version 4.9.
> >But, the work on next release of Apache Flex is already underway. Stay
> tuned!" - The only problem I have with this is that it is in the section
> >"4.9 Enhancements" and it isn't in the 4.9 release. Maybe put it in its
> own section titled "What we're working on now"?
>
> Good catch. This is also a logical improvement to the PR. It makes the
> communication more clear. I am making this change and then sending this to
> Sally from ASF (publicity & media) I'm not sure how much work she'll need
> to do to our document before releasing this globally.
>
> I hope it works & we get a few requests for interviews from writers who
> wish to speak to those committing, contributing, and commenting to our
> project. Stay tuned!
>
RE: [Marketing] - Telling the world that we are a TLP...
Posted by "Guthmann, Scott" <sg...@on3solutions.com>.
>One other change you made: the last bullet here:
>"Code has been donated but our work isn¹t complete to include better support for Maven and better parity between mx and spark components on version 4.9.
>But, the work on next release of Apache Flex is already underway. Stay tuned!" - The only problem I have with this is that it is in the section
>"4.9 Enhancements" and it isn't in the 4.9 release. Maybe put it in its own section titled "What we're working on now"?
Good catch. This is also a logical improvement to the PR. It makes the communication more clear. I am making this change and then sending this to Sally from ASF (publicity & media) I'm not sure how much work she'll need to do to our document before releasing this globally.
I hope it works & we get a few requests for interviews from writers who wish to speak to those committing, contributing, and commenting to our project. Stay tuned!
Re: [Marketing] - Telling the world that we are a TLP...
Posted by Greg Reddin <gr...@gmail.com>.
On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 9:13 AM, Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net> wrote:
> It is very important that press releases be reviewed by press@a.o.
>
> Has this happened yet?
>
I mentioned that yesterday and Scott indicated that he's working with
Sally. So I think we're in good shape.
Greg
Re: [Marketing] - Telling the world that we are a TLP...
Posted by Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>.
It is very important that press releases be reviewed by press@a.o.
Has this happened yet?
Regards,
Dave
On Jan 7, 2013, at 10:37 PM, Alex Harui wrote:
>
>
>
> On 1/7/13 10:01 PM, "Guthmann, Scott" <sg...@on3solutions.com> wrote:
>
>>> OK, I read it over. In general, I like it, although I think words are being
>>> put in my mouth...
>> If not you Alex, then who? What would you say if not these words?
> I think the way it reads now is fine. I was only saying that folks who know
> me would not believe I would say it the way it originally was.
>
> One other change you made: the last bullet here:
> "Code has been donated but our work isn’t complete to include better support
> for Maven and better parity between mx and spark components on version 4.9.
> But, the work on next release of Apache Flex is already underway. Stay
> tuned!" - The only problem I have with this is that it is in the section
> "4.9 Enhancements" and it isn't in the 4.9 release. Maybe put it in its own
> section titled "What we're working on now"?
>
>
> --
> Alex Harui
> Flex SDK Team
> Adobe Systems, Inc.
> http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui
>
Re: [Marketing] - Telling the world that we are a TLP...
Posted by Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com>.
On 1/7/13 10:01 PM, "Guthmann, Scott" <sg...@on3solutions.com> wrote:
>> OK, I read it over. In general, I like it, although I think words are being
>> put in my mouth...
> If not you Alex, then who? What would you say if not these words?
I think the way it reads now is fine. I was only saying that folks who know
me would not believe I would say it the way it originally was.
One other change you made: the last bullet here:
"Code has been donated but our work isn¹t complete to include better support
for Maven and better parity between mx and spark components on version 4.9.
But, the work on next release of Apache Flex is already underway. Stay
tuned!" - The only problem I have with this is that it is in the section
"4.9 Enhancements" and it isn't in the 4.9 release. Maybe put it in its own
section titled "What we're working on now"?
--
Alex Harui
Flex SDK Team
Adobe Systems, Inc.
http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui
RE: [Marketing] - Telling the world that we are a TLP...
Posted by "Guthmann, Scott" <sg...@on3solutions.com>.
> OK, I read it over. In general, I like it, although I think words are being put in my mouth...
If not you Alex, then who? What would you say if not these words?
> Anyway here's a bunch of nitpicky stuff that will reduce word count a bit.
Thanks for the feedback. Your input was added & IMO, makes the release stronger and more clear. Nice job!
>"The future releases of Apache Flex currently being worked on will include
>better support for Maven and better parity between mx and spark components."
>- Again I see this as a promise. How about "Work on next release of Apache
>Flex is already underway."
I removed the promise but left compromise language in because of other feedback. As the releases are coming faster, this disagreement won't be important because the project will work to make the "future" a reality soon after the press release.
Re: Still incubator email ?
Posted by Frédéric THOMAS <we...@hotmail.com>.
Maybe that's my filters that are not correct yet !?
- Fred
-----Message d'origine-----
From: Frédéric THOMAS
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2013 1:53 AM
To: dev@flex.apache.org
Subject: Re: Still incubator email ?
The last one from Carol:
This script comes from
https://svn.apache.org/repos/private/committers/tools/releases/ which is
only accessible to committers. It looks like there are some other handy
scripts in that directory as well.
Carol
On 1/4/13 4 :49PM, "Om" <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Thanks! I was looking for this a while ago but forgot about it. Do you
>mind if I moved it into utilities/build directory? That seems like a more
>appropriate location for this script .
>
>Om
>
>On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 12:50 PM, Carol Frampton <cf...@adobe.com>
>wrote:
>
>> Justin,
>>
>> This seems rather complicated. The Apache script sign_and_hash.sh just
>> needs to be run on the files in the release directory. We have a copy
>>of
>> the script in the sdk/trunk/build directory.
>>
>> cd release
>> ./path/to/sign_and_hash.sh
>>
>> Carol
>>
>>
>> On 1/3/13 7 :43PM, "jmclean@apache.org" <jm...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>> >Author: jmclean
>> >Date: Fri Jan 4 00:43:22 2013
>> >New Revision: 1428687
>> >
>> >URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1428687&view=rev
>> >Log:
>> >change version 2.0.0 to 2.0.1
>> >
>> >Modified:
>> > incubator/flex/utilities/trunk/installer/RELEASE_GUIDE
>> >
>> >Modified: incubator/flex/utilities/trunk/installer/RELEASE_GUIDE
>> >URL:
>> >
>>
>>http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/flex/utilities/trunk/installer/REL
>>E
>> >ASE_GUIDE?rev=1428687&r1=1428686&r2=1428687&view=diff
>>
>>>========================================================================
>>>==
>> >====
>> >--- incubator/flex/utilities/trunk/installer/RELEASE_GUIDE (original)
>> >+++ incubator/flex/utilities/trunk/installer/RELEASE_GUIDE Fri Jan 4
>> >00:43:22 2013
>> >@@ -48,18 +48,18 @@ This step
>> >
>> > cd release
>> >
>> >-gpg --armor --output apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.0-bin.exe.asc
>> >--detach-sig apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.0-bin.exe (on Windows)
>> >-gpg --armor --output apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.0-bin.dmg.asc
>> >--detach-sig apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.0-bin.dmg (on Mac)
>> >-gpg --armor --output apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.0-src.tar.gz.asc
>> >--detach-sig apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.0-src.tar.gz
>> >-gpg --armor --output apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.0-src.zip.asc
>> >--detach-sig apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.0-src.zip
>> >+gpg --armor --output apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.1-bin.exe.asc
>> >--detach-sig apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.1-bin.exe (on Windows)
>> >+gpg --armor --output apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.1-bin.dmg.asc
>> >--detach-sig apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.1-bin.dmg (on Mac)
>> >+gpg --armor --output apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.1-src.tar.gz.asc
>> >--detach-sig apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.1-src.tar.gz
>> >+gpg --armor --output apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.1-src.zip.asc
>> >--detach-sig apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.1-src.zip
>> >
>> >-This step creates the release artifacts InstallApacheFlex.exe.asc,
>> >apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.0-src.tar.gz.asc and
>> >apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.0-src.zip.asc
>> >+This step creates the release artifacts InstallApacheFlex.exe.asc,
>> >apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.1-src.tar.gz.asc and
>> >apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.1-src.zip.asc
>> >
>> > 6. Run:
>> >-gpg --print-md MD5 apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.0-bin.exe >
>> >apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.0-bin.exe.md5 (On Windows)
>> >-gpg --print-md MD5 apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.0-bin.dmg >
>> >apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.0-bin.dmg.md5 (On Mac)
>> >-gpg --print-md MD5 apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.0-src.tar.gz >
>> >apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.0-src.tar.gz.md5
>> >-gpg --print-md MD5 apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.0-src.zip >
>> >apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.0-src.zip.md5
>> >+gpg --print-md MD5 apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.1-bin.exe >
>> >apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.1-bin.exe.md5 (On Windows)
>> >+gpg --print-md MD5 apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.1-bin.dmg >
>> >apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.1-bin.dmg.md5 (On Mac)
>> >+gpg --print-md MD5 apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.1-src.tar.gz >
>> >apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.1-src.tar.gz.md5
>> >+gpg --print-md MD5 apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.1-src.zip >
>> >apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.1-src.zip.md5
>> >
>> > 7. In the /installer directory, run:
>> > ant rat-report
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
-----Message d'origine-----
From: Alex Harui
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2013 1:48 AM
To: dev@flex.apache.org
Subject: Re: Still incubator email ?
JIRA apparently has not been changed over. I don't have the required
permissions. I have asked Infra for help.
Where did you see a commit via incubator?
On 1/7/13 4:44 PM, "Frédéric THOMAS" <we...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> BTW, sorry Justin, your email was not intended to be the source of the
> message causing my demand.
>
> - Fred
>
--
Alex Harui
Flex SDK Team
Adobe Systems, Inc.
http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui
Re: Still incubator email ?
Posted by Frédéric THOMAS <we...@hotmail.com>.
Ok, thanks.
- Fred
-----Message d'origine-----
From: Alex Harui
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2013 1:55 AM
To: dev@flex.apache.org
Subject: Re: Still incubator email ?
I think that's a follow-on to a conversation started before the switch-over.
-Alex
On 1/7/13 4:53 PM, "Frédéric THOMAS" <we...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> The last one from Carol:
>
> This script comes from
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/private/committers/tools/releases/ which is
> only accessible to committers. It looks like there are some other handy
> scripts in that directory as well.
>
> Carol
>
> On 1/4/13 4 :49PM, "Om" <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks! I was looking for this a while ago but forgot about it. Do you
>> mind if I moved it into utilities/build directory? That seems like a
>> more
>> appropriate location for this script .
>>
>> Om
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 12:50 PM, Carol Frampton <cf...@adobe.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Justin,
>>>
>>> This seems rather complicated. The Apache script sign_and_hash.sh just
>>> needs to be run on the files in the release directory. We have a copy
>>> of
>>> the script in the sdk/trunk/build directory.
>>>
>>> cd release
>>> ./path/to/sign_and_hash.sh
>>>
>>> Carol
>>>
>>>
>>> On 1/3/13 7 :43PM, "jmclean@apache.org" <jm...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Author: jmclean
>>>> Date: Fri Jan 4 00:43:22 2013
>>>> New Revision: 1428687
>>>>
>>>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1428687&view=rev
>>>> Log:
>>>> change version 2.0.0 to 2.0.1
>>>>
>>>> Modified:
>>>> incubator/flex/utilities/trunk/installer/RELEASE_GUIDE
>>>>
>>>> Modified: incubator/flex/utilities/trunk/installer/RELEASE_GUIDE
>>>> URL:
>>>>
>>>
>>> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/flex/utilities/trunk/installer/REL
>>> E
>>>> ASE_GUIDE?rev=1428687&r1=1428686&r2=1428687&view=diff
>>>
>>>> ========================================================================
>>>> ==
>>>> ====
>>>> --- incubator/flex/utilities/trunk/installer/RELEASE_GUIDE (original)
>>>> +++ incubator/flex/utilities/trunk/installer/RELEASE_GUIDE Fri Jan 4
>>>> 00:43:22 2013
>>>> @@ -48,18 +48,18 @@ This step
>>>>
>>>> cd release
>>>>
>>>> -gpg --armor --output apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.0-bin.exe.asc
>>>> --detach-sig apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.0-bin.exe (on Windows)
>>>> -gpg --armor --output apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.0-bin.dmg.asc
>>>> --detach-sig apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.0-bin.dmg (on Mac)
>>>> -gpg --armor --output apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.0-src.tar.gz.asc
>>>> --detach-sig apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.0-src.tar.gz
>>>> -gpg --armor --output apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.0-src.zip.asc
>>>> --detach-sig apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.0-src.zip
>>>> +gpg --armor --output apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.1-bin.exe.asc
>>>> --detach-sig apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.1-bin.exe (on Windows)
>>>> +gpg --armor --output apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.1-bin.dmg.asc
>>>> --detach-sig apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.1-bin.dmg (on Mac)
>>>> +gpg --armor --output apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.1-src.tar.gz.asc
>>>> --detach-sig apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.1-src.tar.gz
>>>> +gpg --armor --output apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.1-src.zip.asc
>>>> --detach-sig apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.1-src.zip
>>>>
>>>> -This step creates the release artifacts InstallApacheFlex.exe.asc,
>>>> apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.0-src.tar.gz.asc and
>>>> apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.0-src.zip.asc
>>>> +This step creates the release artifacts InstallApacheFlex.exe.asc,
>>>> apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.1-src.tar.gz.asc and
>>>> apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.1-src.zip.asc
>>>>
>>>> 6. Run:
>>>> -gpg --print-md MD5 apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.0-bin.exe >
>>>> apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.0-bin.exe.md5 (On Windows)
>>>> -gpg --print-md MD5 apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.0-bin.dmg >
>>>> apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.0-bin.dmg.md5 (On Mac)
>>>> -gpg --print-md MD5 apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.0-src.tar.gz >
>>>> apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.0-src.tar.gz.md5
>>>> -gpg --print-md MD5 apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.0-src.zip >
>>>> apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.0-src.zip.md5
>>>> +gpg --print-md MD5 apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.1-bin.exe >
>>>> apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.1-bin.exe.md5 (On Windows)
>>>> +gpg --print-md MD5 apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.1-bin.dmg >
>>>> apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.1-bin.dmg.md5 (On Mac)
>>>> +gpg --print-md MD5 apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.1-src.tar.gz >
>>>> apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.1-src.tar.gz.md5
>>>> +gpg --print-md MD5 apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.1-src.zip >
>>>> apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.1-src.zip.md5
>>>>
>>>> 7. In the /installer directory, run:
>>>> ant rat-report
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
>
>
> -----Message d'origine-----
> From: Alex Harui
> Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2013 1:48 AM
> To: dev@flex.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Still incubator email ?
>
> JIRA apparently has not been changed over. I don't have the required
> permissions. I have asked Infra for help.
>
> Where did you see a commit via incubator?
>
>
> On 1/7/13 4:44 PM, "Frédéric THOMAS" <we...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> BTW, sorry Justin, your email was not intended to be the source of the
>> message causing my demand.
>>
>> - Fred
>>
--
Alex Harui
Flex SDK Team
Adobe Systems, Inc.
http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui
Re: Still incubator email ?
Posted by Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com>.
I think that's a follow-on to a conversation started before the switch-over.
-Alex
On 1/7/13 4:53 PM, "Frédéric THOMAS" <we...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> The last one from Carol:
>
> This script comes from
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/private/committers/tools/releases/ which is
> only accessible to committers. It looks like there are some other handy
> scripts in that directory as well.
>
> Carol
>
> On 1/4/13 4 :49PM, "Om" <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks! I was looking for this a while ago but forgot about it. Do you
>> mind if I moved it into utilities/build directory? That seems like a more
>> appropriate location for this script .
>>
>> Om
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 12:50 PM, Carol Frampton <cf...@adobe.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Justin,
>>>
>>> This seems rather complicated. The Apache script sign_and_hash.sh just
>>> needs to be run on the files in the release directory. We have a copy
>>> of
>>> the script in the sdk/trunk/build directory.
>>>
>>> cd release
>>> ./path/to/sign_and_hash.sh
>>>
>>> Carol
>>>
>>>
>>> On 1/3/13 7 :43PM, "jmclean@apache.org" <jm...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Author: jmclean
>>>> Date: Fri Jan 4 00:43:22 2013
>>>> New Revision: 1428687
>>>>
>>>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1428687&view=rev
>>>> Log:
>>>> change version 2.0.0 to 2.0.1
>>>>
>>>> Modified:
>>>> incubator/flex/utilities/trunk/installer/RELEASE_GUIDE
>>>>
>>>> Modified: incubator/flex/utilities/trunk/installer/RELEASE_GUIDE
>>>> URL:
>>>>
>>>
>>> http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/flex/utilities/trunk/installer/REL
>>> E
>>>> ASE_GUIDE?rev=1428687&r1=1428686&r2=1428687&view=diff
>>>
>>>> ========================================================================
>>>> ==
>>>> ====
>>>> --- incubator/flex/utilities/trunk/installer/RELEASE_GUIDE (original)
>>>> +++ incubator/flex/utilities/trunk/installer/RELEASE_GUIDE Fri Jan 4
>>>> 00:43:22 2013
>>>> @@ -48,18 +48,18 @@ This step
>>>>
>>>> cd release
>>>>
>>>> -gpg --armor --output apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.0-bin.exe.asc
>>>> --detach-sig apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.0-bin.exe (on Windows)
>>>> -gpg --armor --output apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.0-bin.dmg.asc
>>>> --detach-sig apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.0-bin.dmg (on Mac)
>>>> -gpg --armor --output apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.0-src.tar.gz.asc
>>>> --detach-sig apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.0-src.tar.gz
>>>> -gpg --armor --output apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.0-src.zip.asc
>>>> --detach-sig apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.0-src.zip
>>>> +gpg --armor --output apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.1-bin.exe.asc
>>>> --detach-sig apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.1-bin.exe (on Windows)
>>>> +gpg --armor --output apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.1-bin.dmg.asc
>>>> --detach-sig apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.1-bin.dmg (on Mac)
>>>> +gpg --armor --output apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.1-src.tar.gz.asc
>>>> --detach-sig apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.1-src.tar.gz
>>>> +gpg --armor --output apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.1-src.zip.asc
>>>> --detach-sig apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.1-src.zip
>>>>
>>>> -This step creates the release artifacts InstallApacheFlex.exe.asc,
>>>> apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.0-src.tar.gz.asc and
>>>> apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.0-src.zip.asc
>>>> +This step creates the release artifacts InstallApacheFlex.exe.asc,
>>>> apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.1-src.tar.gz.asc and
>>>> apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.1-src.zip.asc
>>>>
>>>> 6. Run:
>>>> -gpg --print-md MD5 apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.0-bin.exe >
>>>> apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.0-bin.exe.md5 (On Windows)
>>>> -gpg --print-md MD5 apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.0-bin.dmg >
>>>> apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.0-bin.dmg.md5 (On Mac)
>>>> -gpg --print-md MD5 apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.0-src.tar.gz >
>>>> apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.0-src.tar.gz.md5
>>>> -gpg --print-md MD5 apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.0-src.zip >
>>>> apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.0-src.zip.md5
>>>> +gpg --print-md MD5 apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.1-bin.exe >
>>>> apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.1-bin.exe.md5 (On Windows)
>>>> +gpg --print-md MD5 apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.1-bin.dmg >
>>>> apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.1-bin.dmg.md5 (On Mac)
>>>> +gpg --print-md MD5 apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.1-src.tar.gz >
>>>> apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.1-src.tar.gz.md5
>>>> +gpg --print-md MD5 apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.1-src.zip >
>>>> apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.1-src.zip.md5
>>>>
>>>> 7. In the /installer directory, run:
>>>> ant rat-report
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
>
>
> -----Message d'origine-----
> From: Alex Harui
> Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2013 1:48 AM
> To: dev@flex.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Still incubator email ?
>
> JIRA apparently has not been changed over. I don't have the required
> permissions. I have asked Infra for help.
>
> Where did you see a commit via incubator?
>
>
> On 1/7/13 4:44 PM, "Frédéric THOMAS" <we...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> BTW, sorry Justin, your email was not intended to be the source of the
>> message causing my demand.
>>
>> - Fred
>>
--
Alex Harui
Flex SDK Team
Adobe Systems, Inc.
http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui
Re: Still incubator email ?
Posted by Frédéric THOMAS <we...@hotmail.com>.
The last one from Carol:
This script comes from
https://svn.apache.org/repos/private/committers/tools/releases/ which is
only accessible to committers. It looks like there are some other handy
scripts in that directory as well.
Carol
On 1/4/13 4 :49PM, "Om" <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>Thanks! I was looking for this a while ago but forgot about it. Do you
>mind if I moved it into utilities/build directory? That seems like a more
>appropriate location for this script .
>
>Om
>
>On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 12:50 PM, Carol Frampton <cf...@adobe.com>
>wrote:
>
>> Justin,
>>
>> This seems rather complicated. The Apache script sign_and_hash.sh just
>> needs to be run on the files in the release directory. We have a copy
>>of
>> the script in the sdk/trunk/build directory.
>>
>> cd release
>> ./path/to/sign_and_hash.sh
>>
>> Carol
>>
>>
>> On 1/3/13 7 :43PM, "jmclean@apache.org" <jm...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>> >Author: jmclean
>> >Date: Fri Jan 4 00:43:22 2013
>> >New Revision: 1428687
>> >
>> >URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1428687&view=rev
>> >Log:
>> >change version 2.0.0 to 2.0.1
>> >
>> >Modified:
>> > incubator/flex/utilities/trunk/installer/RELEASE_GUIDE
>> >
>> >Modified: incubator/flex/utilities/trunk/installer/RELEASE_GUIDE
>> >URL:
>> >
>>
>>http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/flex/utilities/trunk/installer/REL
>>E
>> >ASE_GUIDE?rev=1428687&r1=1428686&r2=1428687&view=diff
>>
>>>========================================================================
>>>==
>> >====
>> >--- incubator/flex/utilities/trunk/installer/RELEASE_GUIDE (original)
>> >+++ incubator/flex/utilities/trunk/installer/RELEASE_GUIDE Fri Jan 4
>> >00:43:22 2013
>> >@@ -48,18 +48,18 @@ This step
>> >
>> > cd release
>> >
>> >-gpg --armor --output apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.0-bin.exe.asc
>> >--detach-sig apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.0-bin.exe (on Windows)
>> >-gpg --armor --output apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.0-bin.dmg.asc
>> >--detach-sig apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.0-bin.dmg (on Mac)
>> >-gpg --armor --output apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.0-src.tar.gz.asc
>> >--detach-sig apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.0-src.tar.gz
>> >-gpg --armor --output apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.0-src.zip.asc
>> >--detach-sig apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.0-src.zip
>> >+gpg --armor --output apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.1-bin.exe.asc
>> >--detach-sig apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.1-bin.exe (on Windows)
>> >+gpg --armor --output apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.1-bin.dmg.asc
>> >--detach-sig apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.1-bin.dmg (on Mac)
>> >+gpg --armor --output apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.1-src.tar.gz.asc
>> >--detach-sig apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.1-src.tar.gz
>> >+gpg --armor --output apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.1-src.zip.asc
>> >--detach-sig apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.1-src.zip
>> >
>> >-This step creates the release artifacts InstallApacheFlex.exe.asc,
>> >apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.0-src.tar.gz.asc and
>> >apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.0-src.zip.asc
>> >+This step creates the release artifacts InstallApacheFlex.exe.asc,
>> >apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.1-src.tar.gz.asc and
>> >apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.1-src.zip.asc
>> >
>> > 6. Run:
>> >-gpg --print-md MD5 apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.0-bin.exe >
>> >apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.0-bin.exe.md5 (On Windows)
>> >-gpg --print-md MD5 apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.0-bin.dmg >
>> >apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.0-bin.dmg.md5 (On Mac)
>> >-gpg --print-md MD5 apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.0-src.tar.gz >
>> >apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.0-src.tar.gz.md5
>> >-gpg --print-md MD5 apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.0-src.zip >
>> >apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.0-src.zip.md5
>> >+gpg --print-md MD5 apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.1-bin.exe >
>> >apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.1-bin.exe.md5 (On Windows)
>> >+gpg --print-md MD5 apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.1-bin.dmg >
>> >apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.1-bin.dmg.md5 (On Mac)
>> >+gpg --print-md MD5 apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.1-src.tar.gz >
>> >apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.1-src.tar.gz.md5
>> >+gpg --print-md MD5 apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.1-src.zip >
>> >apache-flex-sdk-installer-2.0.1-src.zip.md5
>> >
>> > 7. In the /installer directory, run:
>> > ant rat-report
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
-----Message d'origine-----
From: Alex Harui
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2013 1:48 AM
To: dev@flex.apache.org
Subject: Re: Still incubator email ?
JIRA apparently has not been changed over. I don't have the required
permissions. I have asked Infra for help.
Where did you see a commit via incubator?
On 1/7/13 4:44 PM, "Frédéric THOMAS" <we...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> BTW, sorry Justin, your email was not intended to be the source of the
> message causing my demand.
>
> - Fred
>
--
Alex Harui
Flex SDK Team
Adobe Systems, Inc.
http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui
Re: Still incubator email ?
Posted by Frédéric THOMAS <we...@hotmail.com>.
Ok then, JIRA incubator emails are normals because you haven't got the
permission to change the address yet and the commit one was a old talk,
fair.
Thanks.
- Fred
-----Message d'origine-----
From: Justin Mclean
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2013 1:58 AM
To: dev@flex.apache.org
Subject: Re: Still incubator email ?
Hi,
> JIRA apparently has not been changed over. I don't have the required
> permissions. I have asked Infra for help.
Assume you tried here?
https://issues.apache.org/jira/plugins/servlet/project-config/FLEX/notifications
It say to mail jira@a.o to change.
I don't have permissions to change the notification address there.
Justin
Re: Still incubator email ?
Posted by Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com>.
On 1/7/13 4:58 PM, "Justin Mclean" <ju...@classsoftware.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
>> JIRA apparently has not been changed over. I don't have the required
>> permissions. I have asked Infra for help.
>
> Assume you tried here?
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/plugins/servlet/project-config/FLEX/notificatio
> ns
>
> It say to mail jira@a.o to change.
>
> I don't have permissions to change the notification address there.
>
> Justin
Yeah, I emailed jira@a.o. Haven't heard back. I will ping on infra@a.o
tomorrow if it still is an issue.
--
Alex Harui
Flex SDK Team
Adobe Systems, Inc.
http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui
Re: Still incubator email ?
Posted by Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>.
Hi,
> JIRA apparently has not been changed over. I don't have the required
> permissions. I have asked Infra for help.
Assume you tried here?
https://issues.apache.org/jira/plugins/servlet/project-config/FLEX/notifications
It say to mail jira@a.o to change.
I don't have permissions to change the notification address there.
Justin
Re: Still incubator email ?
Posted by Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com>.
JIRA apparently has not been changed over. I don't have the required
permissions. I have asked Infra for help.
Where did you see a commit via incubator?
On 1/7/13 4:44 PM, "Frédéric THOMAS" <we...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> BTW, sorry Justin, your email was not intended to be the source of the
> message causing my demand.
>
> - Fred
>
--
Alex Harui
Flex SDK Team
Adobe Systems, Inc.
http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui
Re: Still incubator email ?
Posted by Frédéric THOMAS <we...@hotmail.com>.
BTW, sorry Justin, your email was not intended to be the source of the
message causing my demand.
- Fred
Still incubator email ?
Posted by Frédéric THOMAS <we...@hotmail.com>.
Hi guys,
Just was wondering if it was normal at this stage to get some commits and
jira incubator email ?
- Fred
-----Message d'origine-----
From: Justin Mclean
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2013 1:26 AM
To: dev@flex.apache.org
Subject: Re: [Marketing] - Telling the world that we are a TLP...
Hi,
> I haven't had a chance to read through this yet, but IMO, "future
> releases...will" is a promise. Maybe just state what has happened which
> is
> that developers have been working on Maven tools and new Spark Components.
IMO In each case code is already committed in SVN so it's very likely to be
in the next release.
Justin
Re: [Marketing] - Telling the world that we are a TLP...
Posted by Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com>.
On 1/7/13 4:26 PM, "Justin Mclean" <ju...@classsoftware.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
>> I haven't had a chance to read through this yet, but IMO, "future
>> releases...will" is a promise. Maybe just state what has happened which is
>> that developers have been working on Maven tools and new Spark Components.
>
> IMO In each case code is already committed in SVN so it's very likely to be in
> the next release.
Maybe, but the Maven stuff may get its own release package.
--
Alex Harui
Flex SDK Team
Adobe Systems, Inc.
http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui
Re: [Marketing] - Telling the world that we are a TLP...
Posted by Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>.
Hi,
> I haven't had a chance to read through this yet, but IMO, "future
> releases...will" is a promise. Maybe just state what has happened which is
> that developers have been working on Maven tools and new Spark Components.
IMO In each case code is already committed in SVN so it's very likely to be in the next release.
Justin
Re: [Marketing] - Telling the world that we are a TLP...
Posted by Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com>.
On 1/7/13 3:05 PM, "Om" <bi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> The futures paragraph seems out of place to me or maybe it is just
>> because the writing style is different than the rest of the document.
>> I'm on the fence on this one. Is Carol right or does this "futures"
>> content add something to the release?
>>
>>
> I would keep just this line:
>
> The future releases of Apache Flex currently being worked on will include
> better support for Maven and better parity between mx and spark components.
> *
> *
> More details can come in the press release when we actually make the
> release with these changes.
>
> I am making some edits to the doc directly as well.
>
I haven't had a chance to read through this yet, but IMO, "future
releases...will" is a promise. Maybe just state what has happened which is
that developers have been working on Maven tools and new Spark Components.
--
Alex Harui
Flex SDK Team
Adobe Systems, Inc.
http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui
Re: [Marketing] - Telling the world that we are a TLP...
Posted by Om <bi...@gmail.com>.
>
> > The futures paragraph seems out of place to me or maybe it is just
> because the writing style is different than the rest of the document.
> I'm on the fence on this one. Is Carol right or does this "futures"
> content add something to the release?
>
>
I would keep just this line:
The future releases of Apache Flex currently being worked on will include
better support for Maven and better parity between mx and spark components.
*
*
More details can come in the press release when we actually make the
release with these changes.
I am making some edits to the doc directly as well.
Thanks,
Om
Re: [Marketing] - Telling the world that we are a TLP...
Posted by Alex Harui <ah...@adobe.com>.
OK, I read it over. In general, I like it, although I think words are being
put in my mouth...
Anyway here's a bunch of nitpicky stuff that will reduce word count a bit.
I don't have a problem with the length as the last portion is clearly
standard marketing blurbs:
"Flex, the Adobe Systems (ADBE) seeded" - IMO, 'seeded' implies that money
came with it. How about "Flex, donated by Adobe Systems Inc. (ADBE), is an
Open Source framework for"
"We are excited to continue working to develop the Apache Flex Software
Development Kit (SDK), Installer, Mustella Testing Framework, and
Application Compiler Falcon to work together to leverage Apache Flex for
building and maintaining expressive web applications that deploy
consistently on all major browsers, desktops and devices (including
smartphones, tablets and tv),² - Yes, I'm excited, but this sounds too much
like a repeat of the first paragraph to be a believable quote. How about:
"We are excited to continue working to develop the Apache Flex Software
Development Kit (SDK), Installer, Mustella Testing Framework, and 'Falcon'
Compiler to allow people to build better applications with better developer
productivity",
"These standards remove project risk for the manager because the language is
supported in many applications, especially web browsers, and specified
Document Object Model (DOM)." - I think this sentence is questionable. Can
it just be dropped?
"The SDK natively supports the Flash Player versions 10.2 through 11.5." - I
don't think "natively" is the right word. How about: "The SDK can be
compiled to work with Flash Player versions 10.2 through 11.5".
"The ³Mustella² testing framework has been improved and many tests have been
updated." - This is true, but Mustella is not in the release. Maybe we can
just drop this?
"The future releases of Apache Flex currently being worked on will include
better support for Maven and better parity between mx and spark components."
- Again I see this as a promise. How about "Work on next release of Apache
Flex is already underway."
Thanks,
-Alex
On 1/7/13 2:36 PM, "Guthmann, Scott" <sg...@on3solutions.com> wrote:
>> My general impression is there are too many words even ignoring the last
>> paragraphs which I'm guessing are required by Apache.
> I did a word count after removing the "futures" information & the length of
> the document is a concern. There are still about 650 words. Best practices
> states that 400 - 500 is optimal.
>
>
>> My personal opinion is that this kind of press release needs to grab the
>> reader's attention in the first few sentences or it will get deleted before
>> it completely read.
> Considering the vicious attack on Flash by Steve Jobs and the huge quantity of
> negative press surrounding the Nov 2011 announcement and subsequent
> communications, this release will get some attention if only by the troll
> reporters who want to bash Flex again because they are AppleFanBoys. The
> negative press in this case will *not* be a bad thing because we are releasing
> software that advances what the innovative company, Adobe did. (using lots and
> lots of Adobe's help and resources) lol!
>
> The writers who cover this area will certainly shorten our submission down to
> fit their need. So, "too long" isn't terrible & most writers use a filter to
> grab certain keywords & only read the content that contains words they are
> looking for. If this goes out during a slow news week, we may even get some
> reporters who wish to do a feature story. This would be a fantastic result if
> it happens.
>
>
>> The first sentence isn't a complete sentence. Additionally, given we want to
>> advertise Apache I don't think the first sentence should contain Adobe and
>> have no mention of Apache.
> I added you as an editor to the document. This may be required - IDK. Please
> edit if you wish. If not, I will make your changes.
>
>
>> The futures paragraph seems out of place to me or maybe it is just because
>> the writing style is different than the rest of the document.
> I'm on the fence on this one. Is Carol right or does this "futures" content
> add something to the release?
>
>
>> Since the press release is from Denver, internationalisation should be
>> spelled in American English. If left in its present form there are other
>> sentences that need cleaning up as well.
> I left the proper English in the document to ensure I got some feedback. Good
> catch! I will take it out & then get direction from the ASF VP of media &
> publicity on where ASF PR originates. I live in Denver, so, I guessed....
--
Alex Harui
Flex SDK Team
Adobe Systems, Inc.
http://blogs.adobe.com/aharui
RE: [Marketing] - Telling the world that we are a TLP...
Posted by "Guthmann, Scott" <sg...@on3solutions.com>.
> My general impression is there are too many words even ignoring the last paragraphs which I'm guessing are required by Apache.
I did a word count after removing the "futures" information & the length of the document is a concern. There are still about 650 words. Best practices states that 400 - 500 is optimal.
> My personal opinion is that this kind of press release needs to grab the reader's attention in the first few sentences or it will get deleted before it completely read.
Considering the vicious attack on Flash by Steve Jobs and the huge quantity of negative press surrounding the Nov 2011 announcement and subsequent communications, this release will get some attention if only by the troll reporters who want to bash Flex again because they are AppleFanBoys. The negative press in this case will *not* be a bad thing because we are releasing software that advances what the innovative company, Adobe did. (using lots and lots of Adobe's help and resources) lol!
The writers who cover this area will certainly shorten our submission down to fit their need. So, "too long" isn't terrible & most writers use a filter to grab certain keywords & only read the content that contains words they are looking for. If this goes out during a slow news week, we may even get some reporters who wish to do a feature story. This would be a fantastic result if it happens.
> The first sentence isn't a complete sentence. Additionally, given we want to advertise Apache I don't think the first sentence should contain Adobe and have no mention of Apache.
I added you as an editor to the document. This may be required - IDK. Please edit if you wish. If not, I will make your changes.
> The futures paragraph seems out of place to me or maybe it is just because the writing style is different than the rest of the document.
I'm on the fence on this one. Is Carol right or does this "futures" content add something to the release?
> Since the press release is from Denver, internationalisation should be spelled in American English. If left in its present form there are other sentences that need cleaning up as well.
I left the proper English in the document to ensure I got some feedback. Good catch! I will take it out & then get direction from the ASF VP of media & publicity on where ASF PR originates. I live in Denver, so, I guessed....
RE: [Marketing] - Telling the world that we are a TLP...
Posted by "Guthmann, Scott" <sg...@on3solutions.com>.
> Thanks for the work! At first glance it looks good to me, but I didn't get into the details too far. We need to make sure we run it by press@apache.org.
> They will review the release and make sure it meets ASF requirements and they will help us distribute it.
I have contacted Sally K. at the ASF and received her instructions about the proper way to distribute this & getting her help. I need to make sure we have complete details in the document which are as accurate as possible prior to sending her our draft. And, thanks for the very quick help, Greg!
Re: [Marketing] - Telling the world that we are a TLP...
Posted by Greg Reddin <gr...@gmail.com>.
Thanks for the work! At first glance it looks good to me, but I didn't get
into the details too far. We need to make sure we run it by press@apache.org.
They will review the release and make sure it meets ASF requirements and
they will help us distribute it.
Thanks,
Greg
On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 3:26 PM, Guthmann, Scott
<sg...@on3solutions.com>wrote:
> I drafted a press release to announce Flex becoming a TLP and also
> announcing the new version 4.9 + installer 2.0.
>
>
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1bThdnEJZ20y0eStK863kcLSw7joDqKhw6THVLe2dCVQ/edit
>
> Will you please validate the technical accuracy of the DRAFT? I think
> anyone who has this link has the ability to view & edit this document. You
> must sign in to your Google account to edit it.
>
Re: [Marketing] - Telling the world that we are a TLP...
Posted by Om <bi...@gmail.com>.
On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 1:53 PM, Guthmann, Scott
<sg...@on3solutions.com>wrote:
> > I see a few errors and I am trying to edit it, but I am not able to.
> The link you sent opens up the document in 'View only' mode. Can you
> please take a look?
> Om - I was able to duplicate this problem. When I signed into my Google
> account, then I could edit the document. Are you able to duplicate the
> issue while signed in to your Google account?
>
It stays in 'view only' mode even after signing in. It looks like the
share settings are not correctly configured?
Om
RE: [Marketing] - Telling the world that we are a TLP...
Posted by "Guthmann, Scott" <sg...@on3solutions.com>.
> I see a few errors and I am trying to edit it, but I am not able to. The link you sent opens up the document in 'View only' mode. Can you please take a look?
Om - I was able to duplicate this problem. When I signed into my Google account, then I could edit the document. Are you able to duplicate the issue while signed in to your Google account?
Re: [Marketing] - Telling the world that we are a TLP...
Posted by Om <bi...@gmail.com>.
On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 1:26 PM, Guthmann, Scott
<sg...@on3solutions.com>wrote:
> I drafted a press release to announce Flex becoming a TLP and also
> announcing the new version 4.9 + installer 2.0.
>
>
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1bThdnEJZ20y0eStK863kcLSw7joDqKhw6THVLe2dCVQ/edit
>
> Will you please validate the technical accuracy of the DRAFT? I think
> anyone who has this link has the ability to view & edit this document. You
> must sign in to your Google account to edit it.
>
Looks great, Scott. Thanks for working on this!
I see a few errors and I am trying to edit it, but I am not able to. The
link you sent opens up the document in 'View only' mode. Can you please
take a look?
Thanks,
Om
Re: [Marketing] - Telling the world that we are a TLP...
Posted by Carol Frampton <cf...@adobe.com>.
My general impression is there are too many words even ignoring the last
paragraphs which I'm guessing are required by Apache. Are we sure we
shouldn't do a press release for becoming a TLP and another one for the
4.9 release? My personal opinion is that this kind of press release needs
to grab the reader's attention in the first few sentences or it will get
deleted before it completely read.
The first sentence isn't a complete sentence. Additionally, given we want
to advertise Apache I don't think the first sentence should contain Adobe
and have no mention of Apache.
>> Flex, the Adobe Systems (ADBE) seeded Open Source software framework
>>used for building and maintaining expressive web applications that
>>deploy consistently on all major browsers, desktops and devices
>>(including smartphones, tablets and TV).
The futures paragraph seems out of place to me or maybe it is just because
the writing style is different than the rest of the document.
Since the press release is from Denver, internationalisation should be
spelled in American English. If left in its present form there are other
sentences that need cleaning up as well.
Carol
On 1/7/13 4 :26PM, "Guthmann, Scott" <sg...@on3solutions.com> wrote:
>I drafted a press release to announce Flex becoming a TLP and also
>announcing the new version 4.9 + installer 2.0.
>
>https://docs.google.com/document/d/1bThdnEJZ20y0eStK863kcLSw7joDqKhw6THVLe
>2dCVQ/edit
>
>Will you please validate the technical accuracy of the DRAFT? I think
>anyone who has this link has the ability to view & edit this document.
>You must sign in to your Google account to edit it.
[Marketing] - Telling the world that we are a TLP...
Posted by "Guthmann, Scott" <sg...@on3solutions.com>.
I drafted a press release to announce Flex becoming a TLP and also announcing the new version 4.9 + installer 2.0.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1bThdnEJZ20y0eStK863kcLSw7joDqKhw6THVLe2dCVQ/edit
Will you please validate the technical accuracy of the DRAFT? I think anyone who has this link has the ability to view & edit this document. You must sign in to your Google account to edit it.
RE: [Marketing] - Telling the world that we are a TLP...
Posted by "Guthmann, Scott" <sg...@on3solutions.com>.
> Some notes. I'm sure this can be expanded/ improved upon.
Thank you for the help, Justin. IMO, the reason to do a press release is to engage business managers outside of software development. So, it is important to remove [or explain] all the lingo that only a developer would understand. For a developer only audience, blogs are just fine & no PR would be needed.
> We've just released version 4.9 of Apache Flex and 2.0 of the Apache Flex IDE Installer. Both were worked on by many members of Apache Flex PMC, commiters and the wider community. Justin Mclean was the release manager for Apache Flex 4.9 SDK >and OmPrakash Muppirala was the release manager for the Apache Flex IDE installer.
What does a [software development toolkit] SDK and a [Integrated Development Environment] IDE allow a business manager to do - Save time? Save money? Become more competitive in the marketplace?
> Why should current application owners upgrade their existing Adobe Flex applications to the community release?
>Apache Flex is now a top level Apache Software Foundation project and as such gain access to all the resources and support that other Apache top level projects (TLP) do. There are a growing number of Apache Flex committers.
What are the resources and support that I will gain access to as a business manager because Apache Flex is now a TLP? How have other Apache TLPs saved money, saved time, and/or become more competitive in the marketplace by gaining access to these resources and support? Which companies are the top level projects that have experienced these wonderful benefits?
> What capabilities does the Apache Flex release 4.9 have for business managers and developers that Adobe Flex 4.6 does not?
>The 4.9 release contains several important bug fixes, improved internationalisation support (including new locales) and allows the Apache Flex SDK to be used on a wide range of Adobe Flash players and more recent versions of Apache AIR. See the >release notes for more information.
What are the bugs that were fixed & how have these bug fixes removed risks from my project? Are there other known bugs that haven't been fixed?
Does the internationalisation support (including new locales) give me access to new markets that I couldn't access before? Which ones? Would it have been expensive or time consuming to develop custom applications prior to this release?
Which devices, players, and screens does Apache Flex currently target and which does is skip? Why won't custom software run on any device of my choice? Can business managers choose other development languages that would be less expensive to develop in or that would target a wider variety of technologies than Apache Flex targets?
> Apache AIR
Is this a real technology or a typo?
>The next release of Apache Flex currently being worked on will include better support for Maven and better parity between mx and spark components.
What's this: " better support for Maven and better parity between mx and spark components" and how would this save me time, money, or make my firm more competitive in the marketplace?
Re: [Marketing] - Telling the world that we are a TLP...
Posted by Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>.
Hi,
> *Maven*
Yep sprung - you can tell i don't use it :-)
Justin
Re: [Marketing] - Telling the world that we are a TLP...
Posted by Om <bi...@gmail.com>.
On Jan 6, 2013 4:42 PM, "Justin Mclean" <ju...@classsoftware.com> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Some notes. I'm sure this can be expanded/ improved upon.
>
> I think there's two important bits of news - becoming a top level project
and the 4.9 release.
>
> > What has just been released, by who, & how was the work done?
>
> We've just released version 4.9 of Apache Flex and 2.0 of the Apache Flex
IDE Installer. Both were worked on by many members of Apache Flex PMC,
commiters and the wider community. Justin Mclean was the release manager
for Apache Flex 4.9 SDK and OmPrakash Muppirala was the release manager for
the Apache Flex IDE installer.
>
> > Why should current application owners upgrade their existing Adobe Flex
applications to the community release?
>
> Apache Flex is now a top level Apache Software Foundation project and as
such gain access to all the resources and support that other Apache top
level projects do. There are a growing number of Apache Flex commiters.
>
> Apache Flex 4.9 is open source and licensed under the Apache 2.0 license.
The software can be freely used for commercial use, can be modified,
distributed and sub-licenced as long as the in original license is included
and all trademarks are respected.
>
> Support for Apache Flex is provided by the community via the Apache Flex
mailing lists.
>
> > What capabilities does the Apache Flex release 4.9 have for business
managers and developers that Adobe Flex 4.6 does not?
>
> The 4.9 release contains several important bug fixes, improved
internationalisation support (including new locales) and allows the Apache
Flex SDK to be used on a wide range of Adpbe Flash players and more recent
versions of Apache AIR. See the release notes for more information.
>
> The next release of Apache Flex currently being worked on will include
better support for Mavin and better parity between mx and spark components.
>
> Thanks,
> Justin
*Maven*
Re: [Marketing] - Telling the world that we are a TLP...
Posted by Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>.
Hi,
Some notes. I'm sure this can be expanded/ improved upon.
I think there's two important bits of news - becoming a top level project and the 4.9 release.
> What has just been released, by who, & how was the work done?
We've just released version 4.9 of Apache Flex and 2.0 of the Apache Flex IDE Installer. Both were worked on by many members of Apache Flex PMC, commiters and the wider community. Justin Mclean was the release manager for Apache Flex 4.9 SDK and OmPrakash Muppirala was the release manager for the Apache Flex IDE installer.
> Why should current application owners upgrade their existing Adobe Flex applications to the community release?
Apache Flex is now a top level Apache Software Foundation project and as such gain access to all the resources and support that other Apache top level projects do. There are a growing number of Apache Flex commiters.
Apache Flex 4.9 is open source and licensed under the Apache 2.0 license. The software can be freely used for commercial use, can be modified, distributed and sub-licenced as long as the in original license is included and all trademarks are respected.
Support for Apache Flex is provided by the community via the Apache Flex mailing lists.
> What capabilities does the Apache Flex release 4.9 have for business managers and developers that Adobe Flex 4.6 does not?
The 4.9 release contains several important bug fixes, improved internationalisation support (including new locales) and allows the Apache Flex SDK to be used on a wide range of Adpbe Flash players and more recent versions of Apache AIR. See the release notes for more information.
The next release of Apache Flex currently being worked on will include better support for Mavin and better parity between mx and spark components.
Thanks,
Justin