Comment on Matt's -1 (was: Re: [vote] Request Graduation to a TLP)

[Jacek Laskowski <ja...@laskowski.net.pl>]

On 4/4/07, Matt Hogstrom <ma...@hogstrom.org> wrote:
> -1
>
> I hate changing votes in the middle of a thread.  There was some
> information missing that I've been able to get a clearer picture of
> the situation.
>
> In the initial discuss thread there was a request to add two people
> to the PMC by one of the existing PMC members.

There was one missing point I had not noticed then. I was mistaken
that the PMC is exactly the same thing as the committers group. I
thought that since they were just voted in it wouldn't have been fair
to exclude them from the list. I messed it up completely. I had
corrected myself right after I sent the email about adding them to the
group of the proposed initial PMC. So, my question about adding
Mohammad and Manu doesn't apply here.

Jacek

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Jacek Laskowski
http://www.JacekLaskowski.pl

Re: Comment on Matt's -1 (was: Re: [vote] Request Graduation to a TLP)

[Mohammad Nour El-Din <no...@gmail.com>]

Hi Matt...

Thanks for you and Jacek, I will talk about myself, I was OK with the
proposed PMC list and I am still OK with it. And for the subject that
whether that list is for committers of PMC members I think this was clear -
at least for me - from the first time Jacek raised this issue in another
mail. I think we need now another voting thread to vote for the current PMC
list.

On 4/4/07, Matt Hogstrom <ma...@hogstrom.org> wrote:
>
>
> On Apr 4, 2007, at 10:22 AM, Jacek Laskowski wrote:
>
> >
> > There was one missing point I had not noticed then. I was mistaken
> > that the PMC is exactly the same thing as the committers group. I
> > thought that since they were just voted in it wouldn't have been fair
> > to exclude them from the list. I messed it up completely. I had
> > corrected myself right after I sent the email about adding them to the
> > group of the proposed initial PMC. So, my question about adding
> > Mohammad and Manu doesn't apply here.
>
> Ok, thanks for the clarification.  Based on all the discussion it
> seems reasonable to reset, ask people if they are cool with the
> proposed PMC (as it appears that some would like to see a different
> composition) and get the community consensus.
>
> My guess is that this all boils down to some assumptions in
> communication and people assuming things are not kosher.
>
> For my 2c I'm fine with the proposed PMC I'm just concerned about the
> broken thread of communication and seeming confusion on people's
> parts of who's in / who's out, etc.  I think the proposed list
> confused people (as you indicated above) that it was the group of
> committers.
>
>


-- 
Thanks
- Mohammad Nour

Re: Comment on Matt's -1 (was: Re: [vote] Request Graduation to a TLP)

[Matt Hogstrom <ma...@hogstrom.org>]

On Apr 4, 2007, at 10:22 AM, Jacek Laskowski wrote:

>
> There was one missing point I had not noticed then. I was mistaken
> that the PMC is exactly the same thing as the committers group. I
> thought that since they were just voted in it wouldn't have been fair
> to exclude them from the list. I messed it up completely. I had
> corrected myself right after I sent the email about adding them to the
> group of the proposed initial PMC. So, my question about adding
> Mohammad and Manu doesn't apply here.

Ok, thanks for the clarification.  Based on all the discussion it  
seems reasonable to reset, ask people if they are cool with the  
proposed PMC (as it appears that some would like to see a different  
composition) and get the community consensus.

My guess is that this all boils down to some assumptions in  
communication and people assuming things are not kosher.

For my 2c I'm fine with the proposed PMC I'm just concerned about the  
broken thread of communication and seeming confusion on people's  
parts of who's in / who's out, etc.  I think the proposed list  
confused people (as you indicated above) that it was the group of  
committers.