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Posted to users@cocoon.apache.org by Dean McGowan <de...@bigpond.com> on 2002/05/01 02:48:46 UTC
RE: Why isn't Cocoon making into the commercial world?
We at kangax.com are attempting to complete a software product
specifically designed to accommodate this block approach mentioned. It
is early days but we invite people to trial and comment on our
development. If you consider that you have a building block that you
would like syndicated via the kangax interface please let us know and we
will endeavor to integrate your ideas.
Regards,
Dean McGowan
-----Original Message-----
From: Bert Van Kets [mailto:bert@visitronics.be]
Sent: Friday, 29 March 2002 9:15 PM
To: cocoon-users@xml.apache.org
Subject: Re: Why isn't Cocoon making into the commercial world?
In my opinion Cocoon will hit the main stream when the Cocoon building
blocks are ready.
At the moment people who are new to XSLT need to digest a LOT of info
just
to make out the fundamentals of Cocoon. Giving people the ability to
start
out with a minimal application with just a "Hello World" sample to get
them
going will make things a lot easier (I'm not talking about a minimized
Cocoon like Chello). The block approach will make it possible to add
functionality without the need to know the insides of Cocoon. That's
when
we will hit the mainstream: when people can use Cocoon as a "simple"
tool
to get results and not as a programming framework where all the tweaking
and fine tuning needs to be done before getting results.
Bert
At 18:28 28/03/2002 -0800, you wrote:
>Dear Cocoon User Group:
>
> First of all, I LOVE the Cocoon framework,
> I'm a total believer, and expecially love
> how Cocoon2 is turning out!
>
> Cocoon seems just awesomely powerfully, years
> ahead of the classical architectures proposed
> by Sun (i.e. JSP to ServletBeans to EJBs...).
>
> But how come there is NO (i.e. ABSOLUTELY NO)
> demand for Cocoon expertise in the US market?
> Type in key word "java" and retrieve 3500 hits
> on www.dice.com. Type in key word "cocoon"
> and get ZERO!
>
> Is it all just a dream?
>
> Steve
>
>PS:
> No need to reply if "your" commerical project
> is using it: congradulation. But the bigger
> picture is my question.
>
>
>
>
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RE: Why isn't Cocoon making into the commercial world?
Posted by Zack Angelo <za...@nostromocorp.com>.
Although I'm not at liberty to mention any details, my company and I are
developing a web software package around C2. Stay tuned.
-Zack Angelo
Nostromo Corporation
-----Original Message-----
From: Dean McGowan [mailto:dean_mcgowan@bigpond.com]
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 7:49 PM
To: cocoon-users@xml.apache.org
Subject: RE: Why isn't Cocoon making into the commercial world?
We at kangax.com are attempting to complete a software product
specifically designed to accommodate this block approach mentioned. It
is early days but we invite people to trial and comment on our
development. If you consider that you have a building block that you
would like syndicated via the kangax interface please let us know and we
will endeavor to integrate your ideas.
Regards,
Dean McGowan
-----Original Message-----
From: Bert Van Kets [mailto:bert@visitronics.be]
Sent: Friday, 29 March 2002 9:15 PM
To: cocoon-users@xml.apache.org
Subject: Re: Why isn't Cocoon making into the commercial world?
In my opinion Cocoon will hit the main stream when the Cocoon building
blocks are ready.
At the moment people who are new to XSLT need to digest a LOT of info
just
to make out the fundamentals of Cocoon. Giving people the ability to
start
out with a minimal application with just a "Hello World" sample to get
them
going will make things a lot easier (I'm not talking about a minimized
Cocoon like Chello). The block approach will make it possible to add
functionality without the need to know the insides of Cocoon. That's
when
we will hit the mainstream: when people can use Cocoon as a "simple"
tool
to get results and not as a programming framework where all the tweaking
and fine tuning needs to be done before getting results.
Bert
At 18:28 28/03/2002 -0800, you wrote:
>Dear Cocoon User Group:
>
> First of all, I LOVE the Cocoon framework,
> I'm a total believer, and expecially love
> how Cocoon2 is turning out!
>
> Cocoon seems just awesomely powerfully, years
> ahead of the classical architectures proposed
> by Sun (i.e. JSP to ServletBeans to EJBs...).
>
> But how come there is NO (i.e. ABSOLUTELY NO)
> demand for Cocoon expertise in the US market?
> Type in key word "java" and retrieve 3500 hits
> on www.dice.com. Type in key word "cocoon"
> and get ZERO!
>
> Is it all just a dream?
>
> Steve
>
>PS:
> No need to reply if "your" commerical project
> is using it: congradulation. But the bigger
> picture is my question.
>
>
>
>
>__________________________________________________
>Do You Yahoo!?
>Yahoo! Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy AwardsR
>http://movies.yahoo.com/
>
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