hosting old svn releases on archive.apache.org

[Greg Stein <gs...@gmail.com>]

Hey all,

We are interested in hosting old svn releases (1.0 thru 1.6.current,
maybe pre-1.0 tarballs if we can find them) on the archive.apache.org
host. There are two salient points here:

1) the license is effectively Apache 1.1 (with a text replace of the
name), thus it matches the "no more restrictive than the Apache
license" mantra that we apply to non-ASF-produced dependencies

2) the "copyright owner"(*) is not the ASF

I believe it should be okay to host these tarballs (and signature
files and whatnot) on archive.apache.org. Historically, we have hosted
plenty of non-ASF software there and within the mirror system. As a
simple example, httpd has embedded a copy of PCRE for many years, and
somewhere in httpd or APR is a copy of Expat.

We do have a "dependencies" tarball that is typically produced, but
that has LGPL software (Neon) in there, among others. We do NOT
propose to host these dependency tarballs.

Thanks,
-g

(*) the true owner doesn't matter, and could be a debate in itself;
suffice it to say that the files don't say "Apache Software
Foundation" in them, but all the code *does* happen to be covered by
grants and CLAs to the ASF; it just hasn't been mass-relabeled for
historical preservation (and sigs!)

Re: hosting old svn releases on archive.apache.org

[Henri Yandell <ba...@apache.org>]

Seems fine to me - specifically because these are old releases with an
extremely low chance of being actively developed.

Hen

On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 9:16 AM, Greg Stein <gs...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hey all,
>
> We are interested in hosting old svn releases (1.0 thru 1.6.current,
> maybe pre-1.0 tarballs if we can find them) on the archive.apache.org
> host. There are two salient points here:
>
> 1) the license is effectively Apache 1.1 (with a text replace of the
> name), thus it matches the "no more restrictive than the Apache
> license" mantra that we apply to non-ASF-produced dependencies
>
> 2) the "copyright owner"(*) is not the ASF
>
> I believe it should be okay to host these tarballs (and signature
> files and whatnot) on archive.apache.org. Historically, we have hosted
> plenty of non-ASF software there and within the mirror system. As a
> simple example, httpd has embedded a copy of PCRE for many years, and
> somewhere in httpd or APR is a copy of Expat.
>
> We do have a "dependencies" tarball that is typically produced, but
> that has LGPL software (Neon) in there, among others. We do NOT
> propose to host these dependency tarballs.
>
> Thanks,
> -g
>
> (*) the true owner doesn't matter, and could be a debate in itself;
> suffice it to say that the files don't say "Apache Software
> Foundation" in them, but all the code *does* happen to be covered by
> grants and CLAs to the ASF; it just hasn't been mass-relabeled for
> historical preservation (and sigs!)
>
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Re: hosting old svn releases on archive.apache.org

["Roy T. Fielding" <fi...@gbiv.com>]

+1

....Roy

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Re: hosting old svn releases on archive.apache.org

["Roy T. Fielding" <fi...@gbiv.com>]

+1

....Roy