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Posted to dev@subversion.apache.org by Hyrum K Wright <hy...@wandisco.com> on 2011/08/05 02:52:10 UTC
1.7.0-beta3 up for signing / testing
All,
The next prerelease from the 1.7.x branch is now up for testing and
signing: 1.7.0-beta3. The magic revision is r1154051 (but a known bug
in the release scripts doesn't include that rev in the header file).
You can find the tarballs here:
http://people.apache.org/~hwright/svn/1.7.0-beta3/
This is still a beta release, but is expected to be the last one.
Stability continues to improve, but as you may expect, these
prereleases are intended for intrepid users and testers only. We're
cutting this now, to allow folks to test and sign over the weekend, if
they'd like. To release, we need a complete set of 3 *nix and 3
Windows signatures.
Please send sigs here:
http://work.hyrumwright.org/pub/svn/collect_sigs.py
Thanks,
-Hyrum
PS - The revision-number-in-header file issue is expected to be fixed
for the release candidates.
--
uberSVN: Apache Subversion Made Easy
http://www.uberSVN.com/
Re: 1.7.0-beta3 up for signing / testing
Posted by Stefan Sperling <st...@elego.de>.
On Thu, Aug 04, 2011 at 07:52:10PM -0500, Hyrum K Wright wrote:
> All,
>
> The next prerelease from the 1.7.x branch is now up for testing and
> signing: 1.7.0-beta3. The magic revision is r1154051 (but a known bug
> in the release scripts doesn't include that rev in the header file).
> You can find the tarballs here:
> http://people.apache.org/~hwright/svn/1.7.0-beta3/
>
> This is still a beta release, but is expected to be the last one.
> Stability continues to improve, but as you may expect, these
> prereleases are intended for intrepid users and testers only. We're
> cutting this now, to allow folks to test and sign over the weekend, if
> they'd like. To release, we need a complete set of 3 *nix and 3
> Windows signatures.
>
> Please send sigs here:
> http://work.hyrumwright.org/pub/svn/collect_sigs.py
>
> Thanks,
> -Hyrum
>
> PS - The revision-number-in-header file issue is expected to be fixed
> for the release candidates.
Summary: +1 to release
Tested: [bdb | fsfs] x [ra_local | ra_svn | ra_neon | ra_serf]
swig bindings
Test results: All passed.
'make extraclean-swig-headers' was needed before 'make swig-py'
to avoid import errors in python bindings:
bindings/swig/python/.libs/_core.so: undefined symbol 'SWIG_Python_str_AsChar'
Ruby bindings test had spurious failures because svnserve did not start
up fast enough:
<Svn::Error::AuthnNoProvider> exception expected but was
Class: <Svn::Error::SvnError>
Message: <"\n\n\n\n\n\nsubversion/libsvn_ra_svn/client.c:165:
61: Can't connect to host '127.0.0.1': Connection refused">
Fixed by increasing the delay added in r1038792.
Platform: OpenBSD 5.0 amd64
Dependencies:
bdb: 4.7.25
GNU-iconv: 1.13.1
apr: 1.4.5
apr-util: 1.3.12
httpd: 2.2.19
neon: 0.29.6
serf: 1.0.0
cyrus-sasl: 2.1.23
sqlite: 3070603
openssl: 1.0.0a
swig: 1.3.36
python: 2.7.2
perl: 5.12.2
ruby: 1.8.7-p334
Signatures:
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Re: 1.7.0-beta3 up for signing / testing
Posted by Julian Foad <ju...@wandisco.com>.
I (Julian Foad) wrote:
> Tested:
>
> [...]
> ctypes-python
I had to tweak the ctypes-python tests to get them to run properly. The
pool that the repo's opened in needs to be cleared between tests, to
ensure the rep-cache DB is closed and re-opened when the repo is deleted
and re-created at the same path. Without that, most of the tests failed
to initialize, saying "E160004: Youngest revision is r1, but rep-cache
contains r2".
It turns out the Noorul had posted a patch that fixes that problem
<http://svn.haxx.se/dev/archive-2011-02/0702.shtml>, but the email
didn't say what it was fixing and nobody replied. I'll commit a fix for
this shortly, along the same lines but calling the new methods 'close'
instead of 'clear_pool'.
- Julian
Re: 1.7.0-beta3 up for signing / testing
Posted by Julian Foad <ju...@wandisco.com>.
On Thu, 2011-08-04, Hyrum K Wright wrote:
> The next prerelease from the 1.7.x branch is now up for testing and
> signing: 1.7.0-beta3. [...]
Summary:
+1 to release (Unix).
My two signatures were successfully collected by your script.
Tested:
[ bdb | fsfs ] x [ ra_local | ra_svn | ra_neon | ra_serf ]
swig-py
swig-pl
swig-rb
ctypes-python
(I also built javahl, but couldn't get its tests to run. I'm assuming
that's a local problem. It's not a new problem.)
Results:
All tests passed.
Environment:
OS/Platform:
Ubuntu 10.10, 2.6.35-30-generic i686 GNU/Linux
Using no in-tree build of dependencies.
Using Ubuntu distribution-supplied packages:
libapr1 1.4.2-3ubuntu1
libaprutil1 1.3.9+dfsg-3build1
libdb-dev 4.8
openssl 0.9.8o-1ubuntu4
perl 5.10.1-12ubuntu2
python 2.6.6-2ubuntu1
python 2.6.6-2ubuntu2
zlib1g 1:1.2.3.4.dfsg-3ubuntu1
ruby 1.8.7
neon 0.29.3
Using self-built packages:
serf 0.7.2
Signatures:
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- Julian
Re: 1.7.0-beta3 up for signing / testing
Posted by "C. Michael Pilato" <cm...@collab.net>.
On 08/04/2011 08:52 PM, Hyrum K Wright wrote:
> All,
>
> The next prerelease from the 1.7.x branch is now up for testing and
> signing: 1.7.0-beta3. The magic revision is r1154051 (but a known bug
> in the release scripts doesn't include that rev in the header file).
> You can find the tarballs here:
> http://people.apache.org/~hwright/svn/1.7.0-beta3/
Summary:
+1 to release.
Platform:
Ubuntu 10.04 (lucid) Linux.
Tested:
(local, svn, neon, serf) x (bdb, fsfs) + py + py + pl + rb + javahl
Results:
All tests pass.
MD5 Checksums:
d9373806248532c6559d3c700a3c4eeb subversion-1.7.0-beta3.tar.gz
adb488867231de39f71d53cefcb9fa9a subversion-1.7.0-beta3.tar.bz2
GPG Signatures (left-aligned because Hyrum likes it that way):
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--
C. Michael Pilato <cm...@collab.net>
CollabNet <> www.collab.net <> Distributed Development On Demand
RE: 1.7.0-beta3 up for signing / testing
Posted by Bert Huijben <be...@qqmail.nl>.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hyrum K Wright [mailto:hyrum.wright@wandisco.com]
> Sent: woensdag 10 augustus 2011 14:29
> To: Subversion Development
> Subject: Re: 1.7.0-beta3 up for signing / testing
>
> So, the only thing holding up this release is the lack of a Windows
> sig. While I don't like that situation, at this point I think it's
> foolishness to allow process to get in the way of progress in the
> release, so I'm tempted to move forward with the signatures we have.
I just added my signatures to you script. (Probably when you were writing this mail).
I can't say I think beta 3 is release quality yet (see the long list in 1.7.x/STATUS), but it is certainly better than the older betas which I did sign.
Bert
Re: 1.7.0-beta3 up for signing / testing
Posted by Hyrum K Wright <hy...@wandisco.com>.
On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 7:33 AM, Gavin Baumanis <ga...@thespidernet.com> wrote:
> Hi Hyrum,
>
> My initial thought is;
> "To favour results over process" is the wrong move.
> Processes are sometimes in place to save us from ourselves.
I quite agree. That comment was made somewhat in frustration with the
(apparent) lack of progress on the beta.
Process exists for a reason, and we should always be careful when
circumventing it. However, we should also be careful we don't just
follow process for process' sake.
-Hyrum
--
uberSVN: Apache Subversion Made Easy
http://www.uberSVN.com/
Re: 1.7.0-beta3 up for signing / testing
Posted by Gavin Baumanis <ga...@thespidernet.com>.
Hi Hyrum,
My initial thought is;
"To favour results over process" is the wrong move.
Processes are sometimes in place to save us from ourselves.
Gavin.
On 10/08/2011, at 10:28 PM, Hyrum K Wright wrote:
> So, the only thing holding up this release is the lack of a Windows
> sig. While I don't like that situation, at this point I think it's
> foolishness to allow process to get in the way of progress in the
> release, so I'm tempted to move forward with the signatures we have.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> -Hyrum
>
> On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 1:29 PM, Hyrum K Wright
> <hy...@wandisco.com> wrote:
>> No takers? With only the slightest of effort, you too could be one of
>> the signers of 1.7.0-beta3, and have your name immortalized in the
>> release announcement. Don't delay, test on your Windows box and sign
>> today!
>>
>> -Hyrum
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 4:52 PM, Hyrum K Wright
>> <hy...@wandisco.com> wrote:
>>> FYI: We're still lacking one Windows sig for release.
>>>
>>> Thanks to all those who have tested and signed thus far.
>>>
>>> -Hyrum
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 7:52 PM, Hyrum K Wright
>>> <hy...@wandisco.com> wrote:
>>>> All,
>>>>
>>>> The next prerelease from the 1.7.x branch is now up for testing and
>>>> signing: 1.7.0-beta3. The magic revision is r1154051 (but a known bug
>>>> in the release scripts doesn't include that rev in the header file).
>>>> You can find the tarballs here:
>>>> http://people.apache.org/~hwright/svn/1.7.0-beta3/
>>>>
>>>> This is still a beta release, but is expected to be the last one.
>>>> Stability continues to improve, but as you may expect, these
>>>> prereleases are intended for intrepid users and testers only. We're
>>>> cutting this now, to allow folks to test and sign over the weekend, if
>>>> they'd like. To release, we need a complete set of 3 *nix and 3
>>>> Windows signatures.
>>>>
>>>> Please send sigs here:
>>>> http://work.hyrumwright.org/pub/svn/collect_sigs.py
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> -Hyrum
>>>>
>>>> PS - The revision-number-in-header file issue is expected to be fixed
>>>> for the release candidates.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> uberSVN: Apache Subversion Made Easy
>>>> http://www.uberSVN.com/
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> uberSVN: Apache Subversion Made Easy
>>> http://www.uberSVN.com/
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> uberSVN: Apache Subversion Made Easy
>> http://www.uberSVN.com/
>>
>
>
>
> --
>
> uberSVN: Apache Subversion Made Easy
> http://www.uberSVN.com/
Re: 1.7.0-beta3 up for signing / testing
Posted by Hyrum K Wright <hy...@wandisco.com>.
So, the only thing holding up this release is the lack of a Windows
sig. While I don't like that situation, at this point I think it's
foolishness to allow process to get in the way of progress in the
release, so I'm tempted to move forward with the signatures we have.
Thoughts?
-Hyrum
On Tue, Aug 9, 2011 at 1:29 PM, Hyrum K Wright
<hy...@wandisco.com> wrote:
> No takers? With only the slightest of effort, you too could be one of
> the signers of 1.7.0-beta3, and have your name immortalized in the
> release announcement. Don't delay, test on your Windows box and sign
> today!
>
> -Hyrum
>
> On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 4:52 PM, Hyrum K Wright
> <hy...@wandisco.com> wrote:
>> FYI: We're still lacking one Windows sig for release.
>>
>> Thanks to all those who have tested and signed thus far.
>>
>> -Hyrum
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 7:52 PM, Hyrum K Wright
>> <hy...@wandisco.com> wrote:
>>> All,
>>>
>>> The next prerelease from the 1.7.x branch is now up for testing and
>>> signing: 1.7.0-beta3. The magic revision is r1154051 (but a known bug
>>> in the release scripts doesn't include that rev in the header file).
>>> You can find the tarballs here:
>>> http://people.apache.org/~hwright/svn/1.7.0-beta3/
>>>
>>> This is still a beta release, but is expected to be the last one.
>>> Stability continues to improve, but as you may expect, these
>>> prereleases are intended for intrepid users and testers only. We're
>>> cutting this now, to allow folks to test and sign over the weekend, if
>>> they'd like. To release, we need a complete set of 3 *nix and 3
>>> Windows signatures.
>>>
>>> Please send sigs here:
>>> http://work.hyrumwright.org/pub/svn/collect_sigs.py
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> -Hyrum
>>>
>>> PS - The revision-number-in-header file issue is expected to be fixed
>>> for the release candidates.
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> uberSVN: Apache Subversion Made Easy
>>> http://www.uberSVN.com/
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> uberSVN: Apache Subversion Made Easy
>> http://www.uberSVN.com/
>>
>
>
>
> --
>
> uberSVN: Apache Subversion Made Easy
> http://www.uberSVN.com/
>
--
uberSVN: Apache Subversion Made Easy
http://www.uberSVN.com/
Re: 1.7.0-beta3 up for signing / testing
Posted by Hyrum K Wright <hy...@wandisco.com>.
No takers? With only the slightest of effort, you too could be one of
the signers of 1.7.0-beta3, and have your name immortalized in the
release announcement. Don't delay, test on your Windows box and sign
today!
-Hyrum
On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 4:52 PM, Hyrum K Wright
<hy...@wandisco.com> wrote:
> FYI: We're still lacking one Windows sig for release.
>
> Thanks to all those who have tested and signed thus far.
>
> -Hyrum
>
> On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 7:52 PM, Hyrum K Wright
> <hy...@wandisco.com> wrote:
>> All,
>>
>> The next prerelease from the 1.7.x branch is now up for testing and
>> signing: 1.7.0-beta3. The magic revision is r1154051 (but a known bug
>> in the release scripts doesn't include that rev in the header file).
>> You can find the tarballs here:
>> http://people.apache.org/~hwright/svn/1.7.0-beta3/
>>
>> This is still a beta release, but is expected to be the last one.
>> Stability continues to improve, but as you may expect, these
>> prereleases are intended for intrepid users and testers only. We're
>> cutting this now, to allow folks to test and sign over the weekend, if
>> they'd like. To release, we need a complete set of 3 *nix and 3
>> Windows signatures.
>>
>> Please send sigs here:
>> http://work.hyrumwright.org/pub/svn/collect_sigs.py
>>
>> Thanks,
>> -Hyrum
>>
>> PS - The revision-number-in-header file issue is expected to be fixed
>> for the release candidates.
>>
>> --
>>
>> uberSVN: Apache Subversion Made Easy
>> http://www.uberSVN.com/
>>
>
>
>
> --
>
> uberSVN: Apache Subversion Made Easy
> http://www.uberSVN.com/
>
--
uberSVN: Apache Subversion Made Easy
http://www.uberSVN.com/
Re: 1.7.0-beta3 up for signing / testing
Posted by Hyrum K Wright <hy...@wandisco.com>.
FYI: We're still lacking one Windows sig for release.
Thanks to all those who have tested and signed thus far.
-Hyrum
On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 7:52 PM, Hyrum K Wright
<hy...@wandisco.com> wrote:
> All,
>
> The next prerelease from the 1.7.x branch is now up for testing and
> signing: 1.7.0-beta3. The magic revision is r1154051 (but a known bug
> in the release scripts doesn't include that rev in the header file).
> You can find the tarballs here:
> http://people.apache.org/~hwright/svn/1.7.0-beta3/
>
> This is still a beta release, but is expected to be the last one.
> Stability continues to improve, but as you may expect, these
> prereleases are intended for intrepid users and testers only. We're
> cutting this now, to allow folks to test and sign over the weekend, if
> they'd like. To release, we need a complete set of 3 *nix and 3
> Windows signatures.
>
> Please send sigs here:
> http://work.hyrumwright.org/pub/svn/collect_sigs.py
>
> Thanks,
> -Hyrum
>
> PS - The revision-number-in-header file issue is expected to be fixed
> for the release candidates.
>
> --
>
> uberSVN: Apache Subversion Made Easy
> http://www.uberSVN.com/
>
--
uberSVN: Apache Subversion Made Easy
http://www.uberSVN.com/
Re: 1.7.0-beta3 up for signing / testing
Posted by Paul Burba <pt...@gmail.com>.
On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 8:52 PM, Hyrum K Wright
<hy...@wandisco.com> wrote:
> All,
>
> The next prerelease from the 1.7.x branch is now up for testing and
> signing: 1.7.0-beta3. The magic revision is r1154051 (but a known bug
> in the release scripts doesn't include that rev in the header file).
> You can find the tarballs here:
> http://people.apache.org/~hwright/svn/1.7.0-beta3/
>
> This is still a beta release, but is expected to be the last one.
> Stability continues to improve, but as you may expect, these
> prereleases are intended for intrepid users and testers only. We're
> cutting this now, to allow folks to test and sign over the weekend, if
> they'd like. To release, we need a complete set of 3 *nix and 3
> Windows signatures.
>
> Please send sigs here:
> http://work.hyrumwright.org/pub/svn/collect_sigs.py
>
> Thanks,
> -Hyrum
>
> PS - The revision-number-in-header file issue is expected to be fixed
> for the release candidates.
SUMMARY:
---------
+1 to release
VERIFIED:
---------
Hyrum's sig for
http://people.apache.org/~hwright/svn/1.7.0-beta3/deploy/subversion-1.7.0-beta3.zip
Other than the expected differences in
subversion/include/svn_version.h,
http://people.apache.org/~hwright/svn/1.7.0-beta3/deploy/subversion-1.7.0-beta3.zip
is identical to
https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/subversion/branches/1.7.x@1154051.
TESTED:
-------
[Release-Build] x[ fsfs | bdb ] x [ file | svn | http (neon) | http (serf) ]
Ruby bindings (locally patched as described here:
http://svn.haxx.se/dev/archive-2011-06/0682.shtml)
JavaHL Bindings
RESULTS:
--------
All Tests Pass
PLATFORM:
---------
MS Windows 7 Professional Service Pack 1
Microsoft Visual Studio 2008 Version 9.0.30729.1 SP
DEPENDENCIES:
-------------
APR: 1.4.5
APR-UTIL: 1.3.12
Neon: 0.29.5
zlib: 1.2.4
OpenSSL: 0.9.8q
Apache: 2.2.19
BDB: 4.8.30
sqlite: 3.7.7.1
Python: 2.6.6 (ActivePython 2.6.6.17)
Perl: 5.10.1
Ruby: ruby 1.8.7
java: 1.6.0_21
junit: 4.8.2
swig: 1.3.40
serf: 1.0.0
SIGNATURE:
----------
http://people.apache.org/~hwright/svn/1.7.0-beta3/deploy/subversion-1.7.0-beta3.zip:
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Paul
Re: 1.7.0-beta3 up for signing / testing
Posted by Philip Martin <ph...@wandisco.com>.
Summary:
+1 to release
Platform:
Linux (Debian/squeeze)
Tested:
(local, svn, svn+sasl, serf, neon) x (fsfs, fsfs/pack/shard, bdb)
(serf/v1, neon/v1) x (fsfs, bdb)
swig-pl, swig-py, swig-rb
javahl x (fsfs, bdb)
Results:
All tests PASS
Local dependencies:
apache2-threaded-dev : 2.2.16-6+squeeze1
libapr1-dev : 1.4.2-6+squeeze3
libaprutil1-dev : 1.3.9+dfsg-5
libdb4.8-dev : 4.8.30-2
libneon27-dev : 0.29.3-3
libsasl2-dev : 2.1.23.dfsg1-7
libsqlite3-dev : 3.7.3-1
perl : 5.10.1-17squeeze2
python2.6-dev : 2.6.6-8+b1
ruby1.8-dev : 1.8.7.302-2squeeze1
openjdk-6-jdk : 6b18-1.8.7-2~squeeze1
serf : trunk@1548
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Re: 1.7.0-beta3 up for signing / testing
Posted by Mark Phippard <ma...@gmail.com>.
SUMMARY:
+1 to release
PLATFORM:
Windows 7
VS 2008 SP1
Java 1.6
COMPONENTS:
Apache 2.2.19
APR 1.4.5
APR-UTIL 1.3.12
OpenSSL 1.0.0a
Neon 0.29.6
Serf 1.0.0
ZLib 1.2.4
SQLite 3.7.7.1
VERIFIED:
signature good
TESTED:
JavaHL
ra_local | ra_svn | ra_neon | ra_serf X fsfs
RESULTS:
All passed
SIGNATURES:
subversion-1.7.0-beta3.zip
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Thanks
Mark Phippard
http://markphip.blogspot.com/