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Posted to user@commons.apache.org by Henri Yandell <ba...@generationjava.com> on 2004/07/09 00:00:21 UTC
ApacheCon talks
I'm pondering the idea of giving one/two talks at the ApacheCon in
November.
The two talks I'm considering are:
1) A year of Commons.
An auditing of 12 months of Jakarta Commons, detailing what has happened
in terms of releases (and what the reasons/changes were), promotions, and
committer issues. I think this will be useful as it provides a single way
in which users can keep up to date on the state of Commons. Due to its
nature, Commons is targetted at Java projects both inside and outside of
Apache, so seems like a lot could be interested in it.
Commons is however just a set of libraries, so it might not be sexy
enough to create interest. This would be a 3 hour presentation (1, 3 and 6
are the options), as it seems that's the right length of time to try and
fit the content in.
2) The state of the sandbox.
A description of the current state of the Jakarta Commons Sandbox. This
would describe some of the components within the sandbox and provide
examples of using them. I would almost definitely choose those components
which seem closest to promotion.
It a) helps get users, but b) will help to let people know about the
components that just need a bit of support to get them promoted. ie)
email. This would be a 1 hour talk, as that seems to be a nice contrast to
talk 1) and will help me judge interest levels.
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Now, I've only ever been to a few conferences so far in my life, and not
to ApacheCon, so wanted to see what people on this list felt about the
ideas. Worth it?
Hen
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Re: ApacheCon talks
Posted by Phil Steitz <ph...@steitz.com>.
Henri Yandell wrote:
> Good idea.
>
> I'm not wanting to do a 3 hour talk, but the next level is 1 hour and
> that'd be quite tight.
>
> I'm not sure if 3 talks will be considered too much, but will propose it
> that way. sandbox, commons-1 and commons-2.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Hen
I agree with Stephen that you could probably cover the sandbox projects in
the commons-1,2 groups that they logically belong to. I bet you could even
condense it all into 1 hr.
+1 in any case to doing it.
--Phil
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Re: ApacheCon talks
Posted by Henri Yandell <ba...@generationjava.com>.
Good idea.
I'm not wanting to do a 3 hour talk, but the next level is 1 hour and
that'd be quite tight.
I'm not sure if 3 talks will be considered too much, but will propose it
that way. sandbox, commons-1 and commons-2.
Thanks,
Hen
On Sat, 10 Jul 2004, Stephen Colebourne wrote:
> If there is more than 1 hours material, perhaps split the talks into two1
> hours by the narrow interface/broad interface categorisation.
> ie.
> Collections/Lang/Codec/IO/... have broad shallow API
> Betwixt/JXPath/Digester/... have narrow deep API
>
> That way you could include the sandbox ones with the relevant group. There
> still may not be enough material though.
>
> Stephen
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Eric Pugh" <ep...@upstate.com>
> > I agree w/ the 3 hour thing.. to be honest, I don't think I can keep my
> > interest up in anything for 3 hours unless there is a handson component..
> I
> > agree though that raising the visibility of commons would be nice.. Often
> > people don't know about all the great libraries available and how they can
> > help them!
> >
> > Eric
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Torsten Curdt [mailto:tcurdt@vafer.org]
> > > Sent: Friday, July 09, 2004 8:14 AM
> > > To: Jakarta Commons Users List
> > > Subject: Re: ApacheCon talks
> > >
> > >
> > > Henri,
> > >
> > > > I'm pondering the idea of giving one/two talks at the ApacheCon in
> > > > November.
> > >
> > > Not sure how many people a talk about the sandbox
> > > would attract ...but IMO commons would be a good
> > > thing to talk about. Actually I thought about
> > > submitting a proposal myself.
> > >
> > > But IMHO 3 hours (wow!) is way to much ...I know
> > > there is much to talk about - but I doubt you can
> > > keep people interested in a set of libraries for
> > > more than an hour.
> > >
> > > My 2 cents
> > >
> > > cheers
> > > --
> > > Torsten
> > >
> > >
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Re: ApacheCon talks
Posted by Stephen Colebourne <sc...@btopenworld.com>.
If there is more than 1 hours material, perhaps split the talks into two1
hours by the narrow interface/broad interface categorisation.
ie.
Collections/Lang/Codec/IO/... have broad shallow API
Betwixt/JXPath/Digester/... have narrow deep API
That way you could include the sandbox ones with the relevant group. There
still may not be enough material though.
Stephen
----- Original Message -----
From: "Eric Pugh" <ep...@upstate.com>
> I agree w/ the 3 hour thing.. to be honest, I don't think I can keep my
> interest up in anything for 3 hours unless there is a handson component..
I
> agree though that raising the visibility of commons would be nice.. Often
> people don't know about all the great libraries available and how they can
> help them!
>
> Eric
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Torsten Curdt [mailto:tcurdt@vafer.org]
> > Sent: Friday, July 09, 2004 8:14 AM
> > To: Jakarta Commons Users List
> > Subject: Re: ApacheCon talks
> >
> >
> > Henri,
> >
> > > I'm pondering the idea of giving one/two talks at the ApacheCon in
> > > November.
> >
> > Not sure how many people a talk about the sandbox
> > would attract ...but IMO commons would be a good
> > thing to talk about. Actually I thought about
> > submitting a proposal myself.
> >
> > But IMHO 3 hours (wow!) is way to much ...I know
> > there is much to talk about - but I doubt you can
> > keep people interested in a set of libraries for
> > more than an hour.
> >
> > My 2 cents
> >
> > cheers
> > --
> > Torsten
> >
> >
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RE: ApacheCon talks
Posted by Eric Pugh <ep...@upstate.com>.
I agree w/ the 3 hour thing.. to be honest, I don't think I can keep my
interest up in anything for 3 hours unless there is a handson component.. I
agree though that raising the visibility of commons would be nice.. Often
people don't know about all the great libraries available and how they can
help them!
Eric
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Torsten Curdt [mailto:tcurdt@vafer.org]
> Sent: Friday, July 09, 2004 8:14 AM
> To: Jakarta Commons Users List
> Subject: Re: ApacheCon talks
>
>
> Henri,
>
> > I'm pondering the idea of giving one/two talks at the ApacheCon in
> > November.
>
> Not sure how many people a talk about the sandbox
> would attract ...but IMO commons would be a good
> thing to talk about. Actually I thought about
> submitting a proposal myself.
>
> But IMHO 3 hours (wow!) is way to much ...I know
> there is much to talk about - but I doubt you can
> keep people interested in a set of libraries for
> more than an hour.
>
> My 2 cents
>
> cheers
> --
> Torsten
>
>
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Re: ApacheCon talks
Posted by Torsten Curdt <tc...@vafer.org>.
Henri,
> I'm pondering the idea of giving one/two talks at the ApacheCon in
> November.
Not sure how many people a talk about the sandbox
would attract ...but IMO commons would be a good
thing to talk about. Actually I thought about
submitting a proposal myself.
But IMHO 3 hours (wow!) is way to much ...I know
there is much to talk about - but I doubt you can
keep people interested in a set of libraries for
more than an hour.
My 2 cents
cheers
--
Torsten
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