New Wiki

[Matt Stephenson <ma...@apache.org>]

We voted on MoinMoin with just 3 votes in favor, and several comments
dissenting on it in differing directions, technically we could honor that
vote and go with MoinMoin.

It would be best if anyone has anything they feel very strongly about to
let this thread know soon, we need to get something up in the next few days.

MoinMoin does have the best look and feel imho.  Ubuntu uses it for their
wikis, so that shows it is possible to heavily customize the look and feel.

What's the consensus?

Matt

Re: New Wiki

[Ioannis Canellos <io...@gmail.com>]

I don't think that anyone feels that has no voice. Everyone had their
chance to express their opinion.
If anyone wanted to vote against it he could just do so by voting with -1.

But I think that most of the people voted +0 feel like Andrew (at least I
do).

What we can do in the future, if we feel we need to give more space to
opinions/views is to have a discussion thread first and only go to vote if
there different views on the subject (as one of the mentors also suggested).

Re: New Wiki

[Matt Stephenson <ma...@apache.org>]

Great, so moinmoin it is.


On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 10:50 AM, Everett Toews <everett.toews@rackspace.com
> wrote:

> I'm agreed with abayer here.
>
> And all of the committers voted so everyone had a voice.
>
> Regards,
> Everett
>
> On May 21, 2013, at 12:38 PM, Andrew Bayer wrote:
>
> > Yeah, I understand - my position is basically that we need a wiki more
> than
> > we need a discussion about what wiki to have, so hey. It's not like we
> > can't pivot in the future if needed.
> >
> > A.
> >
> > On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 10:34 AM, Matt Stephenson <mattstep@apache.org
> >wrote:
> >
> >> Sigh, I'm not saying we shouldn't, heck I voted for moinmoin, but I
> don't
> >> want people to feel they have no voice anymore.
> >>
> >> 3 is a minority of us, and we might have treated this a bit differently
> a
> >> few months ago, so it concerns me.  Perhaps I'm just too new to this ASF
> >> world.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 10:24 AM, Andrew Bayer <andrew.bayer@gmail.com
> >>> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Not strong enough to -1, so not strong enough to count. =)
> >>>
> >>> A.
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 10:21 AM, Matt Stephenson <
> mattstep@mattstep.net
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Yeah, I know, but there were a few strong opinions.  We'll git-r-done
> >> in
> >>>> the next day regardless ;)
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On May 21, 2013 10:13 AM, "Andrew Bayer" <an...@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Eh, 3 is still sufficient. =)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> A.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On May 21, 2013 1:07 PM, "Matt Stephenson" <ma...@mattstep.net>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I voted twice, so only 3 +1s.  I emailed from the wrong address
> >>>> initially.
> >>>>>>> On May 21, 2013 10:03 AM, "Andrew Bayer" <an...@gmail.com>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Consensus is that I just declared the vote done and with 4 +1s
> >>> and 6
> >>>> +0s,
> >>>>>>>> MoinMoin it is. =)
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> A.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 9:47 AM, Matt Stephenson <
> >>>> mattstep@apache.org
> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> We voted on MoinMoin with just 3 votes in favor, and several
> >>>> comments
> >>>>>>>>> dissenting on it in differing directions, technically we could
> >>>> honor
> >>>>>>> that
> >>>>>>>>> vote and go with MoinMoin.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> It would be best if anyone has anything they feel very
> >> strongly
> >>>> about
> >>>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>> let this thread know soon, we need to get something up in the
> >>> next
> >>>> few
> >>>>>>>>> days.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> MoinMoin does have the best look and feel imho.  Ubuntu uses
> >> it
> >>>> for
> >>>>>>> their
> >>>>>>>>> wikis, so that shows it is possible to heavily customize the
> >>> look
> >>>> and
> >>>>>>>> feel.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> What's the consensus?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Matt
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
>
>

Re: New Wiki

[Everett Toews <ev...@RACKSPACE.COM>]

I'm agreed with abayer here.

And all of the committers voted so everyone had a voice. 

Regards,
Everett

On May 21, 2013, at 12:38 PM, Andrew Bayer wrote:

> Yeah, I understand - my position is basically that we need a wiki more than
> we need a discussion about what wiki to have, so hey. It's not like we
> can't pivot in the future if needed.
> 
> A.
> 
> On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 10:34 AM, Matt Stephenson <ma...@apache.org>wrote:
> 
>> Sigh, I'm not saying we shouldn't, heck I voted for moinmoin, but I don't
>> want people to feel they have no voice anymore.
>> 
>> 3 is a minority of us, and we might have treated this a bit differently a
>> few months ago, so it concerns me.  Perhaps I'm just too new to this ASF
>> world.
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 10:24 AM, Andrew Bayer <andrew.bayer@gmail.com
>>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Not strong enough to -1, so not strong enough to count. =)
>>> 
>>> A.
>>> 
>>> On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 10:21 AM, Matt Stephenson <mattstep@mattstep.net
>>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Yeah, I know, but there were a few strong opinions.  We'll git-r-done
>> in
>>>> the next day regardless ;)
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On May 21, 2013 10:13 AM, "Andrew Bayer" <an...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Eh, 3 is still sufficient. =)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> A.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On May 21, 2013 1:07 PM, "Matt Stephenson" <ma...@mattstep.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I voted twice, so only 3 +1s.  I emailed from the wrong address
>>>> initially.
>>>>>>> On May 21, 2013 10:03 AM, "Andrew Bayer" <an...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Consensus is that I just declared the vote done and with 4 +1s
>>> and 6
>>>> +0s,
>>>>>>>> MoinMoin it is. =)
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> A.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 9:47 AM, Matt Stephenson <
>>>> mattstep@apache.org
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> We voted on MoinMoin with just 3 votes in favor, and several
>>>> comments
>>>>>>>>> dissenting on it in differing directions, technically we could
>>>> honor
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>> vote and go with MoinMoin.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> It would be best if anyone has anything they feel very
>> strongly
>>>> about
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> let this thread know soon, we need to get something up in the
>>> next
>>>> few
>>>>>>>>> days.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> MoinMoin does have the best look and feel imho.  Ubuntu uses
>> it
>>>> for
>>>>>>> their
>>>>>>>>> wikis, so that shows it is possible to heavily customize the
>>> look
>>>> and
>>>>>>>> feel.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> What's the consensus?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Matt
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 

Re: New Wiki

[Andrew Bayer <an...@gmail.com>]

Yeah, I understand - my position is basically that we need a wiki more than
we need a discussion about what wiki to have, so hey. It's not like we
can't pivot in the future if needed.

A.

On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 10:34 AM, Matt Stephenson <ma...@apache.org>wrote:

> Sigh, I'm not saying we shouldn't, heck I voted for moinmoin, but I don't
> want people to feel they have no voice anymore.
>
> 3 is a minority of us, and we might have treated this a bit differently a
> few months ago, so it concerns me.  Perhaps I'm just too new to this ASF
> world.
>
>
> On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 10:24 AM, Andrew Bayer <andrew.bayer@gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > Not strong enough to -1, so not strong enough to count. =)
> >
> > A.
> >
> > On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 10:21 AM, Matt Stephenson <mattstep@mattstep.net
> > >wrote:
> >
> > > Yeah, I know, but there were a few strong opinions.  We'll git-r-done
> in
> > > the next day regardless ;)
> > >
> > > >
> > > > On May 21, 2013 10:13 AM, "Andrew Bayer" <an...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> Eh, 3 is still sufficient. =)
> > > >>
> > > >> A.
> > > >>
> > > >> On May 21, 2013 1:07 PM, "Matt Stephenson" <ma...@mattstep.net>
> > > wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> > I voted twice, so only 3 +1s.  I emailed from the wrong address
> > > initially.
> > > >> > On May 21, 2013 10:03 AM, "Andrew Bayer" <an...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > > Consensus is that I just declared the vote done and with 4 +1s
> > and 6
> > > +0s,
> > > >> > > MoinMoin it is. =)
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > A.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 9:47 AM, Matt Stephenson <
> > > mattstep@apache.org
> > > >> > > >wrote:
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > > We voted on MoinMoin with just 3 votes in favor, and several
> > > comments
> > > >> > > > dissenting on it in differing directions, technically we could
> > > honor
> > > >> > that
> > > >> > > > vote and go with MoinMoin.
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > It would be best if anyone has anything they feel very
> strongly
> > > about
> > > >> > to
> > > >> > > > let this thread know soon, we need to get something up in the
> > next
> > > few
> > > >> > > > days.
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > MoinMoin does have the best look and feel imho.  Ubuntu uses
> it
> > > for
> > > >> > their
> > > >> > > > wikis, so that shows it is possible to heavily customize the
> > look
> > > and
> > > >> > > feel.
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > What's the consensus?
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > Matt
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> >
> > >
> >
>

Re: New Wiki

[Andrew Gaul <ga...@apache.org>]

Let's move forward with MoinMoin.  I would personally like to move
forward with a dot release and we can revisit infrastructure and
processes at a later point.

On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 10:34:24AM -0700, Matt Stephenson wrote:
> Sigh, I'm not saying we shouldn't, heck I voted for moinmoin, but I don't
> want people to feel they have no voice anymore.
> 
> 3 is a minority of us, and we might have treated this a bit differently a
> few months ago, so it concerns me.  Perhaps I'm just too new to this ASF
> world.
> 
> 
> On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 10:24 AM, Andrew Bayer <an...@gmail.com>wrote:
> 
> > Not strong enough to -1, so not strong enough to count. =)
> >
> > A.
> >
> > On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 10:21 AM, Matt Stephenson <mattstep@mattstep.net
> > >wrote:
> >
> > > Yeah, I know, but there were a few strong opinions.  We'll git-r-done in
> > > the next day regardless ;)
> > >
> > > >
> > > > On May 21, 2013 10:13 AM, "Andrew Bayer" <an...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> Eh, 3 is still sufficient. =)
> > > >>
> > > >> A.
> > > >>
> > > >> On May 21, 2013 1:07 PM, "Matt Stephenson" <ma...@mattstep.net>
> > > wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> > I voted twice, so only 3 +1s.  I emailed from the wrong address
> > > initially.
> > > >> > On May 21, 2013 10:03 AM, "Andrew Bayer" <an...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> > > Consensus is that I just declared the vote done and with 4 +1s
> > and 6
> > > +0s,
> > > >> > > MoinMoin it is. =)
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > A.
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 9:47 AM, Matt Stephenson <
> > > mattstep@apache.org
> > > >> > > >wrote:
> > > >> > >
> > > >> > > > We voted on MoinMoin with just 3 votes in favor, and several
> > > comments
> > > >> > > > dissenting on it in differing directions, technically we could
> > > honor
> > > >> > that
> > > >> > > > vote and go with MoinMoin.
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > It would be best if anyone has anything they feel very strongly
> > > about
> > > >> > to
> > > >> > > > let this thread know soon, we need to get something up in the
> > next
> > > few
> > > >> > > > days.
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > MoinMoin does have the best look and feel imho.  Ubuntu uses it
> > > for
> > > >> > their
> > > >> > > > wikis, so that shows it is possible to heavily customize the
> > look
> > > and
> > > >> > > feel.
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > What's the consensus?
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > > > Matt
> > > >> > > >
> > > >> > >
> > > >> >
> > >
> >

-- 
Andrew Gaul
http://gaul.org/

Re: New Wiki

[Matt Stephenson <ma...@apache.org>]

Sigh, I'm not saying we shouldn't, heck I voted for moinmoin, but I don't
want people to feel they have no voice anymore.

3 is a minority of us, and we might have treated this a bit differently a
few months ago, so it concerns me.  Perhaps I'm just too new to this ASF
world.


On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 10:24 AM, Andrew Bayer <an...@gmail.com>wrote:

> Not strong enough to -1, so not strong enough to count. =)
>
> A.
>
> On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 10:21 AM, Matt Stephenson <mattstep@mattstep.net
> >wrote:
>
> > Yeah, I know, but there were a few strong opinions.  We'll git-r-done in
> > the next day regardless ;)
> >
> > >
> > > On May 21, 2013 10:13 AM, "Andrew Bayer" <an...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Eh, 3 is still sufficient. =)
> > >>
> > >> A.
> > >>
> > >> On May 21, 2013 1:07 PM, "Matt Stephenson" <ma...@mattstep.net>
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > I voted twice, so only 3 +1s.  I emailed from the wrong address
> > initially.
> > >> > On May 21, 2013 10:03 AM, "Andrew Bayer" <an...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > > Consensus is that I just declared the vote done and with 4 +1s
> and 6
> > +0s,
> > >> > > MoinMoin it is. =)
> > >> > >
> > >> > > A.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 9:47 AM, Matt Stephenson <
> > mattstep@apache.org
> > >> > > >wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > > We voted on MoinMoin with just 3 votes in favor, and several
> > comments
> > >> > > > dissenting on it in differing directions, technically we could
> > honor
> > >> > that
> > >> > > > vote and go with MoinMoin.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > It would be best if anyone has anything they feel very strongly
> > about
> > >> > to
> > >> > > > let this thread know soon, we need to get something up in the
> next
> > few
> > >> > > > days.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > MoinMoin does have the best look and feel imho.  Ubuntu uses it
> > for
> > >> > their
> > >> > > > wikis, so that shows it is possible to heavily customize the
> look
> > and
> > >> > > feel.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > What's the consensus?
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Matt
> > >> > > >
> > >> > >
> > >> >
> >
>

Re: New Wiki

[Andrew Bayer <an...@gmail.com>]

Not strong enough to -1, so not strong enough to count. =)

A.

On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 10:21 AM, Matt Stephenson <ma...@mattstep.net>wrote:

> Yeah, I know, but there were a few strong opinions.  We'll git-r-done in
> the next day regardless ;)
>
> >
> > On May 21, 2013 10:13 AM, "Andrew Bayer" <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Eh, 3 is still sufficient. =)
> >>
> >> A.
> >>
> >> On May 21, 2013 1:07 PM, "Matt Stephenson" <ma...@mattstep.net>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> > I voted twice, so only 3 +1s.  I emailed from the wrong address
> initially.
> >> > On May 21, 2013 10:03 AM, "Andrew Bayer" <an...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > Consensus is that I just declared the vote done and with 4 +1s and 6
> +0s,
> >> > > MoinMoin it is. =)
> >> > >
> >> > > A.
> >> > >
> >> > > On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 9:47 AM, Matt Stephenson <
> mattstep@apache.org
> >> > > >wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > We voted on MoinMoin with just 3 votes in favor, and several
> comments
> >> > > > dissenting on it in differing directions, technically we could
> honor
> >> > that
> >> > > > vote and go with MoinMoin.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > It would be best if anyone has anything they feel very strongly
> about
> >> > to
> >> > > > let this thread know soon, we need to get something up in the next
> few
> >> > > > days.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > MoinMoin does have the best look and feel imho.  Ubuntu uses it
> for
> >> > their
> >> > > > wikis, so that shows it is possible to heavily customize the look
> and
> >> > > feel.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > What's the consensus?
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Matt
> >> > > >
> >> > >
> >> >
>

Re: New Wiki

[Matt Stephenson <ma...@mattstep.net>]

Yeah, I know, but there were a few strong opinions.  We'll git-r-done in
the next day regardless ;)

>
> On May 21, 2013 10:13 AM, "Andrew Bayer" <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Eh, 3 is still sufficient. =)
>>
>> A.
>>
>> On May 21, 2013 1:07 PM, "Matt Stephenson" <ma...@mattstep.net> wrote:
>>
>> > I voted twice, so only 3 +1s.  I emailed from the wrong address
initially.
>> > On May 21, 2013 10:03 AM, "Andrew Bayer" <an...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>> >
>> > > Consensus is that I just declared the vote done and with 4 +1s and 6
+0s,
>> > > MoinMoin it is. =)
>> > >
>> > > A.
>> > >
>> > > On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 9:47 AM, Matt Stephenson <mattstep@apache.org
>> > > >wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > We voted on MoinMoin with just 3 votes in favor, and several
comments
>> > > > dissenting on it in differing directions, technically we could
honor
>> > that
>> > > > vote and go with MoinMoin.
>> > > >
>> > > > It would be best if anyone has anything they feel very strongly
about
>> > to
>> > > > let this thread know soon, we need to get something up in the next
few
>> > > > days.
>> > > >
>> > > > MoinMoin does have the best look and feel imho.  Ubuntu uses it for
>> > their
>> > > > wikis, so that shows it is possible to heavily customize the look
and
>> > > feel.
>> > > >
>> > > > What's the consensus?
>> > > >
>> > > > Matt
>> > > >
>> > >
>> >

Re: New Wiki

[Matt Stephenson <ma...@mattstep.net>]

Yeah, I know, but there were a few strong opinions.  We'll git-r-done in
the next day regardless ;)
On May 21, 2013 10:13 AM, "Andrew Bayer" <an...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Eh, 3 is still sufficient. =)
>
> A.
>
> On May 21, 2013 1:07 PM, "Matt Stephenson" <ma...@mattstep.net> wrote:
>
> > I voted twice, so only 3 +1s.  I emailed from the wrong address
> initially.
> > On May 21, 2013 10:03 AM, "Andrew Bayer" <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Consensus is that I just declared the vote done and with 4 +1s and 6
> +0s,
> > > MoinMoin it is. =)
> > >
> > > A.
> > >
> > > On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 9:47 AM, Matt Stephenson <mattstep@apache.org
> > > >wrote:
> > >
> > > > We voted on MoinMoin with just 3 votes in favor, and several comments
> > > > dissenting on it in differing directions, technically we could honor
> > that
> > > > vote and go with MoinMoin.
> > > >
> > > > It would be best if anyone has anything they feel very strongly about
> > to
> > > > let this thread know soon, we need to get something up in the next
> few
> > > > days.
> > > >
> > > > MoinMoin does have the best look and feel imho.  Ubuntu uses it for
> > their
> > > > wikis, so that shows it is possible to heavily customize the look and
> > > feel.
> > > >
> > > > What's the consensus?
> > > >
> > > > Matt
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Re: New Wiki

[Andrew Bayer <an...@gmail.com>]

Eh, 3 is still sufficient. =)

A.

On May 21, 2013 1:07 PM, "Matt Stephenson" <ma...@mattstep.net> wrote:

> I voted twice, so only 3 +1s.  I emailed from the wrong address initially.
> On May 21, 2013 10:03 AM, "Andrew Bayer" <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Consensus is that I just declared the vote done and with 4 +1s and 6 +0s,
> > MoinMoin it is. =)
> >
> > A.
> >
> > On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 9:47 AM, Matt Stephenson <mattstep@apache.org
> > >wrote:
> >
> > > We voted on MoinMoin with just 3 votes in favor, and several comments
> > > dissenting on it in differing directions, technically we could honor
> that
> > > vote and go with MoinMoin.
> > >
> > > It would be best if anyone has anything they feel very strongly about
> to
> > > let this thread know soon, we need to get something up in the next few
> > > days.
> > >
> > > MoinMoin does have the best look and feel imho.  Ubuntu uses it for
> their
> > > wikis, so that shows it is possible to heavily customize the look and
> > feel.
> > >
> > > What's the consensus?
> > >
> > > Matt
> > >
> >
>

Re: New Wiki

[Matt Stephenson <ma...@mattstep.net>]

I voted twice, so only 3 +1s.  I emailed from the wrong address initially.
On May 21, 2013 10:03 AM, "Andrew Bayer" <an...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Consensus is that I just declared the vote done and with 4 +1s and 6 +0s,
> MoinMoin it is. =)
>
> A.
>
> On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 9:47 AM, Matt Stephenson <mattstep@apache.org
> >wrote:
>
> > We voted on MoinMoin with just 3 votes in favor, and several comments
> > dissenting on it in differing directions, technically we could honor that
> > vote and go with MoinMoin.
> >
> > It would be best if anyone has anything they feel very strongly about to
> > let this thread know soon, we need to get something up in the next few
> > days.
> >
> > MoinMoin does have the best look and feel imho.  Ubuntu uses it for their
> > wikis, so that shows it is possible to heavily customize the look and
> feel.
> >
> > What's the consensus?
> >
> > Matt
> >
>

Re: New Wiki

[Andrew Bayer <an...@gmail.com>]

Consensus is that I just declared the vote done and with 4 +1s and 6 +0s,
MoinMoin it is. =)

A.

On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 9:47 AM, Matt Stephenson <ma...@apache.org>wrote:

> We voted on MoinMoin with just 3 votes in favor, and several comments
> dissenting on it in differing directions, technically we could honor that
> vote and go with MoinMoin.
>
> It would be best if anyone has anything they feel very strongly about to
> let this thread know soon, we need to get something up in the next few
> days.
>
> MoinMoin does have the best look and feel imho.  Ubuntu uses it for their
> wikis, so that shows it is possible to heavily customize the look and feel.
>
> What's the consensus?
>
> Matt
>