Re: Best practices for getting non-tech folks to use subversion?

[Mark Galbreath <Ga...@gao.gov>]

Haven't used any remote interface for svn except SmartSVN and liked it so much I bought a license!
 
mark

>>> Phillip Susi <ps...@cfl.rr.com> 22-Feb-06 15:34:29 PM >>>

Philip Hallstrom wrote:
<snip>
> 
> Find or write a CLI-GUI that wraps up the CLI tools into something 
> that's a little easier for someone used to a visual tool to use.  I've 
> looked and haven't found a tool like this (searching for "text gui" 
> doesn't help :-). Does anyone know of one that exists?  This is nice for 
> me because again I don't need to do anything special, and almost nice 
> for them as at least it would be simplified a bit.
> 

Sounds like you are looking for TortoiseSVN.

> Option 3 -
> 
> Setup a VPN b/n the server and the designer and let them mount their 
> working-copy/virtual-server via Samba.  They could then use TortiouseSVN 
> to manage commits.  This is a lot more work for me and while initially 
> appealing for them, I wonder about how slow it would be for 
> updates/commits as it would be going round trip twice so to speak.
> 

This is what I'd do.  There also isn't a need for any kind of VPN mumbo 
jumbo either.  Have the server auto checkout /released and /trunk from 
the repository, and serve those working copies as two different vhosts. 
  That way the developers can commit changes to /trunk, and pull up the 
test vhost in their web browser to test, and then merge into released to 
  push it live.

Give them TortoiseSVN and show them how to use it, and they can access 
the server via https.

I'm no sure what you mean by round trip twice.  Small updates and 
commits should be plenty quick.



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Re: Best practices for getting non-tech folks to use subversion?

[Phillip Susi <ps...@cfl.rr.com>]

I'm not sure what this Novell GroupWise Internet Agent 6.5.4 thing is 
that your message reports you are using to send email, but either it is 
really messed up or you did not reply correctly.  Your message fails to 
quote the message you are replying to ( it did not prefix each line with 
a '>'), and it is missing the In-reply-to: header, so it looks like it 
is not part of the same thread.  Did you just start a new message and 
manually copy/paste my message rather than choose to reply to it?  If 
you chose to reply then your mail system is broken, if you did not, then 
please do that in the future.


Mark Galbreath wrote:
> Haven't used any remote interface for svn except SmartSVN and liked it so much I bought a license!
>  
> mark
> 
>>>> Phillip Susi <ps...@cfl.rr.com> 22-Feb-06 15:34:29 PM >>>
> 
> Philip Hallstrom wrote:
> <snip>
>> Find or write a CLI-GUI that wraps up the CLI tools into something 
>> that's a little easier for someone used to a visual tool to use.  I've 
>> looked and haven't found a tool like this (searching for "text gui" 
>> doesn't help :-). Does anyone know of one that exists?  This is nice for 
>> me because again I don't need to do anything special, and almost nice 
>> for them as at least it would be simplified a bit.
>>
> 
> Sounds like you are looking for TortoiseSVN.
> 
>> Option 3 -
>>
>> Setup a VPN b/n the server and the designer and let them mount their 
>> working-copy/virtual-server via Samba.  They could then use TortiouseSVN 
>> to manage commits.  This is a lot more work for me and while initially 
>> appealing for them, I wonder about how slow it would be for 
>> updates/commits as it would be going round trip twice so to speak.
>>
> 
> This is what I'd do.  There also isn't a need for any kind of VPN mumbo 
> jumbo either.  Have the server auto checkout /released and /trunk from 
> the repository, and serve those working copies as two different vhosts. 
>   That way the developers can commit changes to /trunk, and pull up the 
> test vhost in their web browser to test, and then merge into released to 
>   push it live.
> 
> Give them TortoiseSVN and show them how to use it, and they can access 
> the server via https.
> 
> I'm no sure what you mean by round trip twice.  Small updates and 
> commits should be plenty quick.
> 
> 


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