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Posted to dev@openoffice.apache.org by Carl Marcum <cm...@apache.org> on 2012/07/22 20:34:58 UTC

[DEVTOOLS] how to handle old bugs in old versions of netbeans integration plugin

Hi all,

I started looking up bugs for the Netbeans integration plugin.

I started with:
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=78242

It's from 2007 and the plugin version is very old.

The file referenced in the workaround does not even exist now.

Can we close bugs like this?

If so, what would be the proper status and resolution?

Thanks,
Carl

Re: [DEVTOOLS] how to handle old bugs in old versions of netbeans integration plugin

Posted by Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com>.
On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 11:34 PM, Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org>wrote:

> Kay Schenk wrote:
>
>> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/**show_bug.cgi?id=78242<https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=78242>
>>>>
>>> FWIW -- I did basically "close" this with "resolved" and
>> "unreproducible".
>> Oh boy...getting mixed between Jira and BZ. BZ has no CLOSE, only
>> RESOLVED,
>> which is somewhat misleading.
>>
>
> You can set issues to CLOSED in BugZilla, but, at least in some cases, you
> need to set them to RESOLVED first (the optimal lifecycle would be:
> RESOLVED FIXED meaning that source code is fixed -> VERIFIED FIXED meaning
> that a development build shows the right behavior -> CLOSED FIXED meaning
> that a stable version incorporates the fix; but we tend to use the fields a
> bit more liberally).
>

oh good lord! Who knew! I'll try to remember this.


>
> I closed the above issue. I set resolution to WONTFIX since it's slightly
> more meaningful (i.e., we didn't try to reproduce it; it is just outdated
> and not pertinet to the current version), but this is not a big difference.
>
> Regards,
>   Andrea.
>

OK, thanks for this correction. Maybe we need a WEWONTFIX :)


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MzK

"I'm just a normal jerk who happens to make music.
 As long as my brain and fingers work, I'm cool."
                              -- Eddie Van Halen

Re: [DEVTOOLS] how to handle old bugs in old versions of netbeans integration plugin

Posted by Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org>.
Kay Schenk wrote:
>>> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=78242
> FWIW -- I did basically "close" this with "resolved" and "unreproducible".
> Oh boy...getting mixed between Jira and BZ. BZ has no CLOSE, only RESOLVED,
> which is somewhat misleading.

You can set issues to CLOSED in BugZilla, but, at least in some cases, 
you need to set them to RESOLVED first (the optimal lifecycle would be: 
RESOLVED FIXED meaning that source code is fixed -> VERIFIED FIXED 
meaning that a development build shows the right behavior -> CLOSED 
FIXED meaning that a stable version incorporates the fix; but we tend to 
use the fields a bit more liberally).

I closed the above issue. I set resolution to WONTFIX since it's 
slightly more meaningful (i.e., we didn't try to reproduce it; it is 
just outdated and not pertinet to the current version), but this is not 
a big difference.

Regards,
   Andrea.

Re: [DEVTOOLS] how to handle old bugs in old versions of netbeans integration plugin

Posted by Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com>.
On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 2:34 PM, Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 1:37 AM, Jürgen Schmidt <
> jogischmidt@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 7/22/12 11:50 PM, Kay Schenk wrote:
>> > On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 11:34 AM, Carl Marcum <cm...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi all,
>> >>
>> >> I started looking up bugs for the Netbeans integration plugin.
>> >>
>> >> I started with:
>> >> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/**show_bug.cgi?id=78242<
>> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=78242>
>> >>
>> >> It's from 2007 and the plugin version is very old.
>> >>
>> >> The file referenced in the workaround does not even exist now.
>> >>
>> >> Can we close bugs like this?
>> >>
>> >> If so, what would be the proper status and resolution?
>> >>
>> >> Thanks,
>> >> Carl
>> >>
>>
>
FWIW -- I did basically "close" this with "resolved" and "unreproducible".
Oh boy...getting mixed between Jira and BZ. BZ has no CLOSE, only RESOLVED,
which is somewhat misleading.

When you search you search on "closed" issues but this produces "resolved"
issues.

>
>> > I don't know but I've wondered about things like this myself. I would
>> like
>> > to change the status of such issues to CLOSED, with some appropriate
>> > resolution code like WON'T FIX but that option doesn't seem to be
>> available.
>> >
>> > Given my recent forays into BZ, maybe it's time to RTFM, and see what
>> can
>> > be done to solve some of these annoyances we're having.
>> >
>> >
>>
>> I agree that we can close such issues. When we don't know what the issue
>> means or we have no idea how to reproduce it and issue is so old, we can
>> mark it as won't fix and can close it.
>>
>> Juergen
>>
>
> Yes, but I, for example, do not have just the CLOSE option available to my
> login.
>
> I will look into some of these BZ settings in just a bit. We don't seem to
> have all options available to some of us.
>
>
> --
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> MzK
>
> "I'm just a normal jerk who happens to make music.
>  As long as my brain and fingers work, I'm cool."
>                               -- Eddie Van Halen
>
>


-- 
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
MzK

"I'm just a normal jerk who happens to make music.
 As long as my brain and fingers work, I'm cool."
                              -- Eddie Van Halen

Re: [DEVTOOLS] how to handle old bugs in old versions of netbeans integration plugin

Posted by Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com>.
On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 1:37 AM, Jürgen Schmidt
<jo...@googlemail.com>wrote:

> On 7/22/12 11:50 PM, Kay Schenk wrote:
> > On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 11:34 AM, Carl Marcum <cm...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> I started looking up bugs for the Netbeans integration plugin.
> >>
> >> I started with:
> >> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/**show_bug.cgi?id=78242<
> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=78242>
> >>
> >> It's from 2007 and the plugin version is very old.
> >>
> >> The file referenced in the workaround does not even exist now.
> >>
> >> Can we close bugs like this?
> >>
> >> If so, what would be the proper status and resolution?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Carl
> >>
> >
> > I don't know but I've wondered about things like this myself. I would
> like
> > to change the status of such issues to CLOSED, with some appropriate
> > resolution code like WON'T FIX but that option doesn't seem to be
> available.
> >
> > Given my recent forays into BZ, maybe it's time to RTFM, and see what can
> > be done to solve some of these annoyances we're having.
> >
> >
>
> I agree that we can close such issues. When we don't know what the issue
> means or we have no idea how to reproduce it and issue is so old, we can
> mark it as won't fix and can close it.
>
> Juergen
>

Yes, but I, for example, do not have just the CLOSE option available to my
login.

I will look into some of these BZ settings in just a bit. We don't seem to
have all options available to some of us.

-- 
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
MzK

"I'm just a normal jerk who happens to make music.
 As long as my brain and fingers work, I'm cool."
                              -- Eddie Van Halen

Re: [DEVTOOLS] how to handle old bugs in old versions of netbeans integration plugin

Posted by Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@googlemail.com>.
On 7/22/12 11:50 PM, Kay Schenk wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 11:34 AM, Carl Marcum <cm...@apache.org> wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I started looking up bugs for the Netbeans integration plugin.
>>
>> I started with:
>> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/**show_bug.cgi?id=78242<https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=78242>
>>
>> It's from 2007 and the plugin version is very old.
>>
>> The file referenced in the workaround does not even exist now.
>>
>> Can we close bugs like this?
>>
>> If so, what would be the proper status and resolution?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Carl
>>
> 
> I don't know but I've wondered about things like this myself. I would like
> to change the status of such issues to CLOSED, with some appropriate
> resolution code like WON'T FIX but that option doesn't seem to be available.
> 
> Given my recent forays into BZ, maybe it's time to RTFM, and see what can
> be done to solve some of these annoyances we're having.
> 
> 

I agree that we can close such issues. When we don't know what the issue
means or we have no idea how to reproduce it and issue is so old, we can
mark it as won't fix and can close it.

Juergen

Re: [DEVTOOLS] how to handle old bugs in old versions of netbeans integration plugin

Posted by Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com>.
On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 11:34 AM, Carl Marcum <cm...@apache.org> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I started looking up bugs for the Netbeans integration plugin.
>
> I started with:
> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/**show_bug.cgi?id=78242<https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=78242>
>
> It's from 2007 and the plugin version is very old.
>
> The file referenced in the workaround does not even exist now.
>
> Can we close bugs like this?
>
> If so, what would be the proper status and resolution?
>
> Thanks,
> Carl
>

I don't know but I've wondered about things like this myself. I would like
to change the status of such issues to CLOSED, with some appropriate
resolution code like WON'T FIX but that option doesn't seem to be available.

Given my recent forays into BZ, maybe it's time to RTFM, and see what can
be done to solve some of these annoyances we're having.


-- 
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
MzK

"I'm just a normal jerk who happens to make music.
 As long as my brain and fingers work, I'm cool."
                              -- Eddie Van Halen