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Backup Products

Hello All,

We are worried about the lack of backup options we have for Cloudstack. Snapshots are great but this is not true "backup".

Everything works with Xenserver but we can't find anything that is compatible with Cloudstack?

Kind Regards,
Marlon Davids

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Re: Backup Products

Posted by "Kelceydamage@bbits" <ke...@bbits.ca>.
I have found success with using a combo of templates/snapshots and BackupPC on the guests. 

This way in a worse case scenario I can roll out a template or even ISO install and re-image the guest from BackupPC is snapshots fail or the original VM corrupts.

In-fact having at least one backup measure not integrated with CS is beneficial for disaster recovery.

Otherwise snapshots in practice have been quite rugged, and if stored on an appropriate secondary storage device, should not be an issue. I keep 3 snaps incase one corrupts.

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On Jul 20, 2012, at 5:33 AM, Sheng Liang <Sh...@citrix.com> wrote:

> CloudStack snapshots are true backups. Snapshots are automatically copied to secondary storage. After the snapshot is copied out, it is then deleted from primary storage.
> 
> Sheng
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rajesh Battala [mailto:rajesh.battala@citrix.com] 
> Sent: Friday, July 20, 2012 8:06 PM
> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: RE: Backup Products
> 
> We can have a Backup And Recovery Solution for the VM's. That feature will actually use the Snapshot mechanisms to provide the backup and restore. The other option is to take the clone of the entire VM at different stages and preserve it in backup store. But to clone the VM it should be stopped which will disrupt the services provided by the VM for a long time.
> 
> Thanks
> Rajesh Battala
> From: Marlon Davids [mailto:mdavids@umbee.co.uk]
> Sent: Friday, July 20, 2012 3:27 PM
> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Backup Products
> 
> Hello All,
> 
> We are worried about the lack of backup options we have for Cloudstack. Snapshots are great but this is not true "backup".
> 
> Everything works with Xenserver but we can't find anything that is compatible with Cloudstack?
> 
> Kind Regards,
> Marlon Davids
> 
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RE: Backup Products

Posted by Sheng Liang <Sh...@citrix.com>.
CloudStack snapshots are true backups. Snapshots are automatically copied to secondary storage. After the snapshot is copied out, it is then deleted from primary storage.

Sheng

-----Original Message-----
From: Rajesh Battala [mailto:rajesh.battala@citrix.com] 
Sent: Friday, July 20, 2012 8:06 PM
To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: RE: Backup Products

We can have a Backup And Recovery Solution for the VM's. That feature will actually use the Snapshot mechanisms to provide the backup and restore. The other option is to take the clone of the entire VM at different stages and preserve it in backup store. But to clone the VM it should be stopped which will disrupt the services provided by the VM for a long time.

Thanks
Rajesh Battala
From: Marlon Davids [mailto:mdavids@umbee.co.uk]
Sent: Friday, July 20, 2012 3:27 PM
To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Backup Products

Hello All,

We are worried about the lack of backup options we have for Cloudstack. Snapshots are great but this is not true "backup".

Everything works with Xenserver but we can't find anything that is compatible with Cloudstack?

Kind Regards,
Marlon Davids

..............................................................................................
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RE: Backup Products

Posted by Rajesh Battala <ra...@citrix.com>.
We can have a Backup And Recovery Solution for the VM's. That feature will actually use the Snapshot mechanisms to provide the backup and restore. The other option is to take the clone of the entire VM at different stages and preserve it in backup store. But to clone the VM it should be stopped which will disrupt the services provided by the VM for a long time.

Thanks
Rajesh Battala
From: Marlon Davids [mailto:mdavids@umbee.co.uk]
Sent: Friday, July 20, 2012 3:27 PM
To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Backup Products

Hello All,

We are worried about the lack of backup options we have for Cloudstack. Snapshots are great but this is not true "backup".

Everything works with Xenserver but we can't find anything that is compatible with Cloudstack?

Kind Regards,
Marlon Davids

..............................................................................................
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