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cvs commit: jakarta-velocity-tools/lib struts.jar

nbubna      2003/07/21 22:01:24

  Modified:    lib      struts.jar
  Log:
  upgrade to Struts 1.1
  
  Revision  Changes    Path
  1.2       +1868 -1248jakarta-velocity-tools/lib/struts.jar
  
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Re: cvs commit: jakarta-velocity-tools/lib struts.jar

Posted by "Geir Magnusson Jr." <ge...@adeptra.com>.
On Friday, August 22, 2003, at 07:35 PM, Daniel Rall wrote:

> "Henning P. Schmiedehausen" <hp...@intermeta.de> writes:
>
>> "Nathan Bubna" <na...@esha.com> writes:
>>
>>> Henning P. Schmiedehausen said:
>>>>
>>>> Would you accept patches for converting velocity to maven?
>>>>
>>
>>> hmm.  you know, i thought about suggesting that in my last email.  i 
>>> think i
>>> would probably accept such a patch, but i do have a few concerns 
>>> (perhaps just
>>> due to my inexperience with maven):
>>
>>> - i don't know maven (yet)--is this gonna be a patch-and-run or 
>>> would you mind
>>> keeping an eye on this until i get the hang of it? :)
>>
>> Yes, sure.
>>
>>> - would people still be able to build with Ant?  i'd like to keep 
>>> the bar for
>>> entry low here.  everyone around here can run an Ant build, but 
>>> Maven is still
>>> new and unfamiliar to most people.  if there's any way to transition 
>>> gently or
>>> have both options available, that would be preferred.  (this is my 
>>> primary
>>> concern)
>>
>> Yes. The maven build system (project.xml, maven.xml) is completely 
>> disjunct
>> from the ant build system.
>
> I would like to see a stable, released version of Maven which is not
> under constant "refactoring" before any convertion is attempted.
> Magic a 1.0 label is not, but it does say something about backward
> compatibility.

I really want to ensure that you can build with ant.  Maven is nice, 
but we should be sure that both coexist, and as Daniel says, keep the 
bar low and ensure that ant works.

geir

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Re: cvs commit: jakarta-velocity-tools/lib struts.jar

Posted by Daniel Rall <dl...@finemaltcoding.com>.
"Henning P. Schmiedehausen" <hp...@intermeta.de> writes:

> "Nathan Bubna" <na...@esha.com> writes:
> 
> >Henning P. Schmiedehausen said:
> >>
> >> Would you accept patches for converting velocity to maven?
> >>
> 
> >hmm.  you know, i thought about suggesting that in my last email.  i think i
> >would probably accept such a patch, but i do have a few concerns (perhaps just
> >due to my inexperience with maven):
> 
> >- i don't know maven (yet)--is this gonna be a patch-and-run or would you mind
> >keeping an eye on this until i get the hang of it? :)
> 
> Yes, sure.
> 
> >- would people still be able to build with Ant?  i'd like to keep the bar for
> >entry low here.  everyone around here can run an Ant build, but Maven is still
> >new and unfamiliar to most people.  if there's any way to transition gently or
> >have both options available, that would be preferred.  (this is my primary
> >concern)
> 
> Yes. The maven build system (project.xml, maven.xml) is completely disjunct
> from the ant build system.

I would like to see a stable, released version of Maven which is not
under constant "refactoring" before any convertion is attempted.
Magic a 1.0 label is not, but it does say something about backward
compatibility.
-- 

Daniel Rall

Re: cvs commit: jakarta-velocity-tools/lib struts.jar

Posted by "Henning P. Schmiedehausen" <hp...@intermeta.de>.
"Nathan Bubna" <na...@esha.com> writes:

>Henning P. Schmiedehausen said:
>>
>> Would you accept patches for converting velocity to maven?
>>

>hmm.  you know, i thought about suggesting that in my last email.  i think i
>would probably accept such a patch, but i do have a few concerns (perhaps just
>due to my inexperience with maven):

>- i don't know maven (yet)--is this gonna be a patch-and-run or would you mind
>keeping an eye on this until i get the hang of it? :)

Yes, sure.

>- would people still be able to build with Ant?  i'd like to keep the bar for
>entry low here.  everyone around here can run an Ant build, but Maven is still
>new and unfamiliar to most people.  if there's any way to transition gently or
>have both options available, that would be preferred.  (this is my primary
>concern)

Yes. The maven build system (project.xml, maven.xml) is completely disjunct
from the ant build system.

	Regards
		Henning

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RE: cvs commit: jakarta-velocity-tools/lib struts.jar

Posted by Tim Colson <tc...@cisco.com>.
> - would people still be able to build with Ant?
Yes, at least until Maven doesn't seem so complicated. I had to mess
with maven a few weeks ago when building xdoclet and it caused my head
to hurt. ;-)

Cheers,
Timo



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Re: cvs commit: jakarta-velocity-tools/lib struts.jar

Posted by Nathan Bubna <na...@esha.com>.
Henning P. Schmiedehausen said:
>
> Would you accept patches for converting velocity to maven?
>

hmm.  you know, i thought about suggesting that in my last email.  i think i
would probably accept such a patch, but i do have a few concerns (perhaps just
due to my inexperience with maven):

- i don't know maven (yet)--is this gonna be a patch-and-run or would you mind
keeping an eye on this until i get the hang of it? :)

- would people still be able to build with Ant?  i'd like to keep the bar for
entry low here.  everyone around here can run an Ant build, but Maven is still
new and unfamiliar to most people.  if there's any way to transition gently or
have both options available, that would be preferred.  (this is my primary
concern)

Nathan Bubna
nathan@esha.com


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Re: cvs commit: jakarta-velocity-tools/lib struts.jar

Posted by "Henning P. Schmiedehausen" <hp...@intermeta.de>.
"Nathan Bubna" <na...@esha.com> writes:

Would you accept patches for converting velocity to maven?

	Regards
		Henning

>Henning P. Schmiedehausen said:
>...
>> Is there _any_ reason not to pull these from ibiblio but put them into
>> CVS? The archive of velocity is growing and growing and this sucks.

>no real reason.  it just hasn't been done.  a mere matter of inertia,
>convenience, and priorities.  i've even mentioned several times on the list
>lately that i intend to at least switch to a build system where the jars are
>not kept in CVS and developers must specify their location in their own
>build.properties (similar to how struts is setup now).

>> Even if you won't use maven, you can simply use the <get> tag of ant
>> to pull this jar from http://www.ibiblio.org/maven/struts/jars/.

>i have some interest in converting the project to maven, but i haven't used it
>before and haven't really got the time to figure it out yet.

>Nathan Bubna
>nathan@esha.com


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Re: cvs commit: jakarta-velocity-tools/lib struts.jar

Posted by Nathan Bubna <na...@esha.com>.
Henning P. Schmiedehausen said:
...
> Is there _any_ reason not to pull these from ibiblio but put them into
> CVS? The archive of velocity is growing and growing and this sucks.

no real reason.  it just hasn't been done.  a mere matter of inertia,
convenience, and priorities.  i've even mentioned several times on the list
lately that i intend to at least switch to a build system where the jars are
not kept in CVS and developers must specify their location in their own
build.properties (similar to how struts is setup now).

> Even if you won't use maven, you can simply use the <get> tag of ant
> to pull this jar from http://www.ibiblio.org/maven/struts/jars/.

i have some interest in converting the project to maven, but i haven't used it
before and haven't really got the time to figure it out yet.

Nathan Bubna
nathan@esha.com


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Re: cvs commit: jakarta-velocity-tools/lib struts.jar

Posted by "Henning P. Schmiedehausen" <hp...@intermeta.de>.
nbubna@apache.org writes:

Is there _any_ reason not to pull these from ibiblio but put them into
CVS? The archive of velocity is growing and growing and this sucks.

Even if you won't use maven, you can simply use the <get> tag of ant
to pull this jar from http://www.ibiblio.org/maven/struts/jars/.

	Regards
		Henning


>nbubna      2003/07/21 22:01:24

>  Modified:    lib      struts.jar
>  Log:
>  upgrade to Struts 1.1
>  
>  Revision  Changes    Path
>  1.2       +1868 -1248jakarta-velocity-tools/lib/struts.jar
>  
>  	<<Binary file>>
>  
>  

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freelance consultant -- Jakarta Turbine Development  -- hero for hire

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