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55 million downloads
A quick update. As of last night we're now at 55,155,204 downloads of AOO 3.4.
To put it in perspective Instagram reports that they have 100 million
users, and Facebook thought they were worth $1 billion (US).
Of course, we are free and always will be. As Warren Buffet said,
"Cost is what you pay; value is what you receive". We're providing a
lot of value.
I don't think it is worth the time to do a blog post, etc. It is not
news any more. But maybe at 10 million download intervals, or 75
million or something like that, we announce more broadly?
Regards,
-Rob
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Re: 55 million downloads
Posted by "Marcus (OOo)" <ma...@wtnet.de>.
Am 06/24/2013 03:19 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:
> A quick update. As of last night we're now at 55,155,204 downloads of AOO 3.4.
Great to see that it's growing and growing.
> To put it in perspective Instagram reports that they have 100 million
> users, and Facebook thought they were worth $1 billion (US).
>
> Of course, we are free and always will be. As Warren Buffet said,
> "Cost is what you pay; value is what you receive". We're providing a
> lot of value.
>
> I don't think it is worth the time to do a blog post, etc. It is not
> news any more. But maybe at 10 million download intervals, or 75
> million or something like that, we announce more broadly?
Suggestion, maybe obvious, but however:
At 60 Mio we could,
at 75 Mio we should,
at 100 Mio we must publish this as news/blog post/...
Marcus
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Re: 55 million downloads
Posted by "Marcus (OOo)" <ma...@wtnet.de>.
Am 06/24/2013 03:19 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:
> A quick update. As of last night we're now at 55,155,204 downloads of AOO 3.4.
Great to see that it's growing and growing.
> To put it in perspective Instagram reports that they have 100 million
> users, and Facebook thought they were worth $1 billion (US).
>
> Of course, we are free and always will be. As Warren Buffet said,
> "Cost is what you pay; value is what you receive". We're providing a
> lot of value.
>
> I don't think it is worth the time to do a blog post, etc. It is not
> news any more. But maybe at 10 million download intervals, or 75
> million or something like that, we announce more broadly?
Suggestion, maybe obvious, but however:
At 60 Mio we could,
at 75 Mio we should,
at 100 Mio we must publish this as news/blog post/...
Marcus
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Re: 55 million downloads
Posted by Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org>.
On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 12:05 PM, janI <ja...@apache.org> wrote:
> On 24 June 2013 17:50, Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 11:35 AM, janI <ja...@apache.org> wrote:
>> > On 24 June 2013 16:16, Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 9:26 AM, RGB ES <rg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > 2013/6/24 Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org>
>> >> >
>> >> >> A quick update. As of last night we're now at 55,155,204 downloads
>> of
>> >> AOO
>> >> >> 3.4.
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > Good!
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >> To put it in perspective Instagram reports that they have 100 million
>> >> >> users, and Facebook thought they were worth $1 billion (US).
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Of course, we are free and always will be. As Warren Buffet said,
>> >> >> "Cost is what you pay; value is what you receive". We're providing a
>> >> >> lot of value.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I don't think it is worth the time to do a blog post, etc. It is not
>> >> >> news any more. But maybe at 10 million download intervals, or 75
>> >> >> million or something like that, we announce more broadly?
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > Related though: How 4.0 downloads will be counted? Starting from zero?
>> >> > Adding them to the 3.4 numbers? Maybe both? Something like "X million
>> >> > downloads of which Y millions from our latest mayor release alone"
>> would
>> >> be
>> >> > interesting.
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> The data is tracked at the most fine grained level, at the level of
>> >> individual files. For example, I can tell exactly how many times the
>> >> Swedish Linux 64-bit RPM AOO 3.4.1 was downloaded. For the chart,
>> >> however, I combine all 3.4.x downloads together, for full downloads
>> >> (not including language packs):
>> >>
>> >> http://www.openoffice.org/stats/downloads.html
>> >>
>> >> So when 4.0 is released we have the ability, at the data level, to
>> >> distinguish 4.0 downloads from 3.4.x downloads.
>> >>
>> >> The widget I use in the chart is the Timeplot widget from the SMILE
>> >> project. It has the ability to show multiple data series on the same
>> >> plot, e.g.,:
>> >>
>> >> http://www.simile-widgets.org/timeplot/examples/housing/index.html
>> >>
>> >> So one idea might be to show the 3.4 data and the 4.0 data as
>> >> individual lines on one plot, and then show the cumulative downloads
>> >> (of all versions) on the other plot. Or some variation on that.
>> >>
>> >> But it is a fair point that the equivalence of downloads and users
>> >> breaks down once you have a major update. The estimate for numbers of
>> >> users then will need to be aligned with the greatest number of
>> >> downloads of any specific version.
>> >>
>> >
>> > Super work rob, without having dived into the details myself I hope you
>> can
>> > answer one question.
>> >
>> > Considering the download structure of 3.4.1, do you see any big backlogs
>> of
>> > 4.0 (point where we could assume users would download, but not supported
>> by
>> > 4.0) ?
>> >
>>
>> I'm not sure I understand the question.
>>
>> It would be easier if you learned danish :-)
>
> Let me try to reformulate:
>
> You know where the bulk of the download was done (language versions,
> language packs, sdk ....), looking at 4.0 would the same bulk be possible
> or do we e.g. miss a part (e.g. if one language was a major download and
> not supported in 4.0, it would limit the downloads).
>
Downloads (for full install) by language is here:
https://blogs.apache.org/OOo/mediaresource/0a472c36-6a5a-43f2-b8b5-3aeb80581ae7
So the top 8 languages account for almost all downloads.
In any case this all comes from our decision to only release full UI
translations. This improves quality and user experience, but at the
same time means that languages that have marginal volunteer support
may appear in one version but not another.
There are other possible ways of handling this. For example,
LibreOffice ships some translations that less complete than the
partial ones that we *do not* release.
Personally I think we should preserve our quality goals and
continually recruit translation volunteers. Hopefully the now stable
Pootle server and the cleaner processing of translation files, due to
your and Juergen's efforts, will make this easier going forward.
And remember with AOO 4.0 we get to add new languages, like Tamil
(native language for 70 million people).
Regards,
-Rob
> sorry for my lack of language skills.
>
> rgds
> jan I.
>
>
>> -Rob
>>
>> > rgds
>> > jan I.
>> >
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Regards,
>> >>
>> >> -Rob
>> >>
>> >> > Regards
>> >> > Ricardo
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Regards,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> -Rob
>> >> >>
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Re: 55 million downloads
Posted by janI <ja...@apache.org>.
On 24 June 2013 17:50, Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org> wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 11:35 AM, janI <ja...@apache.org> wrote:
> > On 24 June 2013 16:16, Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> >> On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 9:26 AM, RGB ES <rg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > 2013/6/24 Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org>
> >> >
> >> >> A quick update. As of last night we're now at 55,155,204 downloads
> of
> >> AOO
> >> >> 3.4.
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > Good!
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> To put it in perspective Instagram reports that they have 100 million
> >> >> users, and Facebook thought they were worth $1 billion (US).
> >> >>
> >> >> Of course, we are free and always will be. As Warren Buffet said,
> >> >> "Cost is what you pay; value is what you receive". We're providing a
> >> >> lot of value.
> >> >>
> >> >> I don't think it is worth the time to do a blog post, etc. It is not
> >> >> news any more. But maybe at 10 million download intervals, or 75
> >> >> million or something like that, we announce more broadly?
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > Related though: How 4.0 downloads will be counted? Starting from zero?
> >> > Adding them to the 3.4 numbers? Maybe both? Something like "X million
> >> > downloads of which Y millions from our latest mayor release alone"
> would
> >> be
> >> > interesting.
> >> >
> >>
> >> The data is tracked at the most fine grained level, at the level of
> >> individual files. For example, I can tell exactly how many times the
> >> Swedish Linux 64-bit RPM AOO 3.4.1 was downloaded. For the chart,
> >> however, I combine all 3.4.x downloads together, for full downloads
> >> (not including language packs):
> >>
> >> http://www.openoffice.org/stats/downloads.html
> >>
> >> So when 4.0 is released we have the ability, at the data level, to
> >> distinguish 4.0 downloads from 3.4.x downloads.
> >>
> >> The widget I use in the chart is the Timeplot widget from the SMILE
> >> project. It has the ability to show multiple data series on the same
> >> plot, e.g.,:
> >>
> >> http://www.simile-widgets.org/timeplot/examples/housing/index.html
> >>
> >> So one idea might be to show the 3.4 data and the 4.0 data as
> >> individual lines on one plot, and then show the cumulative downloads
> >> (of all versions) on the other plot. Or some variation on that.
> >>
> >> But it is a fair point that the equivalence of downloads and users
> >> breaks down once you have a major update. The estimate for numbers of
> >> users then will need to be aligned with the greatest number of
> >> downloads of any specific version.
> >>
> >
> > Super work rob, without having dived into the details myself I hope you
> can
> > answer one question.
> >
> > Considering the download structure of 3.4.1, do you see any big backlogs
> of
> > 4.0 (point where we could assume users would download, but not supported
> by
> > 4.0) ?
> >
>
> I'm not sure I understand the question.
>
> It would be easier if you learned danish :-)
Let me try to reformulate:
You know where the bulk of the download was done (language versions,
language packs, sdk ....), looking at 4.0 would the same bulk be possible
or do we e.g. miss a part (e.g. if one language was a major download and
not supported in 4.0, it would limit the downloads).
sorry for my lack of language skills.
rgds
jan I.
> -Rob
>
> > rgds
> > jan I.
> >
> >
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> -Rob
> >>
> >> > Regards
> >> > Ricardo
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> Regards,
> >> >>
> >> >> -Rob
> >> >>
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> >> >>
> >> >>
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Re: 55 million downloads
Posted by Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org>.
On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 11:35 AM, janI <ja...@apache.org> wrote:
> On 24 June 2013 16:16, Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 9:26 AM, RGB ES <rg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > 2013/6/24 Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org>
>> >
>> >> A quick update. As of last night we're now at 55,155,204 downloads of
>> AOO
>> >> 3.4.
>> >>
>> >
>> > Good!
>> >
>> >
>> >>
>> >> To put it in perspective Instagram reports that they have 100 million
>> >> users, and Facebook thought they were worth $1 billion (US).
>> >>
>> >> Of course, we are free and always will be. As Warren Buffet said,
>> >> "Cost is what you pay; value is what you receive". We're providing a
>> >> lot of value.
>> >>
>> >> I don't think it is worth the time to do a blog post, etc. It is not
>> >> news any more. But maybe at 10 million download intervals, or 75
>> >> million or something like that, we announce more broadly?
>> >>
>> >
>> > Related though: How 4.0 downloads will be counted? Starting from zero?
>> > Adding them to the 3.4 numbers? Maybe both? Something like "X million
>> > downloads of which Y millions from our latest mayor release alone" would
>> be
>> > interesting.
>> >
>>
>> The data is tracked at the most fine grained level, at the level of
>> individual files. For example, I can tell exactly how many times the
>> Swedish Linux 64-bit RPM AOO 3.4.1 was downloaded. For the chart,
>> however, I combine all 3.4.x downloads together, for full downloads
>> (not including language packs):
>>
>> http://www.openoffice.org/stats/downloads.html
>>
>> So when 4.0 is released we have the ability, at the data level, to
>> distinguish 4.0 downloads from 3.4.x downloads.
>>
>> The widget I use in the chart is the Timeplot widget from the SMILE
>> project. It has the ability to show multiple data series on the same
>> plot, e.g.,:
>>
>> http://www.simile-widgets.org/timeplot/examples/housing/index.html
>>
>> So one idea might be to show the 3.4 data and the 4.0 data as
>> individual lines on one plot, and then show the cumulative downloads
>> (of all versions) on the other plot. Or some variation on that.
>>
>> But it is a fair point that the equivalence of downloads and users
>> breaks down once you have a major update. The estimate for numbers of
>> users then will need to be aligned with the greatest number of
>> downloads of any specific version.
>>
>
> Super work rob, without having dived into the details myself I hope you can
> answer one question.
>
> Considering the download structure of 3.4.1, do you see any big backlogs of
> 4.0 (point where we could assume users would download, but not supported by
> 4.0) ?
>
I'm not sure I understand the question.
-Rob
> rgds
> jan I.
>
>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> -Rob
>>
>> > Regards
>> > Ricardo
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Regards,
>> >>
>> >> -Rob
>> >>
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>> >>
>> >>
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Re: 55 million downloads
Posted by janI <ja...@apache.org>.
On 24 June 2013 16:16, Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org> wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 9:26 AM, RGB ES <rg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 2013/6/24 Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org>
> >
> >> A quick update. As of last night we're now at 55,155,204 downloads of
> AOO
> >> 3.4.
> >>
> >
> > Good!
> >
> >
> >>
> >> To put it in perspective Instagram reports that they have 100 million
> >> users, and Facebook thought they were worth $1 billion (US).
> >>
> >> Of course, we are free and always will be. As Warren Buffet said,
> >> "Cost is what you pay; value is what you receive". We're providing a
> >> lot of value.
> >>
> >> I don't think it is worth the time to do a blog post, etc. It is not
> >> news any more. But maybe at 10 million download intervals, or 75
> >> million or something like that, we announce more broadly?
> >>
> >
> > Related though: How 4.0 downloads will be counted? Starting from zero?
> > Adding them to the 3.4 numbers? Maybe both? Something like "X million
> > downloads of which Y millions from our latest mayor release alone" would
> be
> > interesting.
> >
>
> The data is tracked at the most fine grained level, at the level of
> individual files. For example, I can tell exactly how many times the
> Swedish Linux 64-bit RPM AOO 3.4.1 was downloaded. For the chart,
> however, I combine all 3.4.x downloads together, for full downloads
> (not including language packs):
>
> http://www.openoffice.org/stats/downloads.html
>
> So when 4.0 is released we have the ability, at the data level, to
> distinguish 4.0 downloads from 3.4.x downloads.
>
> The widget I use in the chart is the Timeplot widget from the SMILE
> project. It has the ability to show multiple data series on the same
> plot, e.g.,:
>
> http://www.simile-widgets.org/timeplot/examples/housing/index.html
>
> So one idea might be to show the 3.4 data and the 4.0 data as
> individual lines on one plot, and then show the cumulative downloads
> (of all versions) on the other plot. Or some variation on that.
>
> But it is a fair point that the equivalence of downloads and users
> breaks down once you have a major update. The estimate for numbers of
> users then will need to be aligned with the greatest number of
> downloads of any specific version.
>
Super work rob, without having dived into the details myself I hope you can
answer one question.
Considering the download structure of 3.4.1, do you see any big backlogs of
4.0 (point where we could assume users would download, but not supported by
4.0) ?
rgds
jan I.
>
> Regards,
>
> -Rob
>
> > Regards
> > Ricardo
> >
> >
> >
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> -Rob
> >>
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> >>
> >>
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Re: 55 million downloads
Posted by Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org>.
On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 9:26 AM, RGB ES <rg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 2013/6/24 Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org>
>
>> A quick update. As of last night we're now at 55,155,204 downloads of AOO
>> 3.4.
>>
>
> Good!
>
>
>>
>> To put it in perspective Instagram reports that they have 100 million
>> users, and Facebook thought they were worth $1 billion (US).
>>
>> Of course, we are free and always will be. As Warren Buffet said,
>> "Cost is what you pay; value is what you receive". We're providing a
>> lot of value.
>>
>> I don't think it is worth the time to do a blog post, etc. It is not
>> news any more. But maybe at 10 million download intervals, or 75
>> million or something like that, we announce more broadly?
>>
>
> Related though: How 4.0 downloads will be counted? Starting from zero?
> Adding them to the 3.4 numbers? Maybe both? Something like "X million
> downloads of which Y millions from our latest mayor release alone" would be
> interesting.
>
The data is tracked at the most fine grained level, at the level of
individual files. For example, I can tell exactly how many times the
Swedish Linux 64-bit RPM AOO 3.4.1 was downloaded. For the chart,
however, I combine all 3.4.x downloads together, for full downloads
(not including language packs):
http://www.openoffice.org/stats/downloads.html
So when 4.0 is released we have the ability, at the data level, to
distinguish 4.0 downloads from 3.4.x downloads.
The widget I use in the chart is the Timeplot widget from the SMILE
project. It has the ability to show multiple data series on the same
plot, e.g.,:
http://www.simile-widgets.org/timeplot/examples/housing/index.html
So one idea might be to show the 3.4 data and the 4.0 data as
individual lines on one plot, and then show the cumulative downloads
(of all versions) on the other plot. Or some variation on that.
But it is a fair point that the equivalence of downloads and users
breaks down once you have a major update. The estimate for numbers of
users then will need to be aligned with the greatest number of
downloads of any specific version.
Regards,
-Rob
> Regards
> Ricardo
>
>
>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> -Rob
>>
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Re: 55 million downloads
Posted by RGB ES <rg...@gmail.com>.
2013/6/24 Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org>
> A quick update. As of last night we're now at 55,155,204 downloads of AOO
> 3.4.
>
Good!
>
> To put it in perspective Instagram reports that they have 100 million
> users, and Facebook thought they were worth $1 billion (US).
>
> Of course, we are free and always will be. As Warren Buffet said,
> "Cost is what you pay; value is what you receive". We're providing a
> lot of value.
>
> I don't think it is worth the time to do a blog post, etc. It is not
> news any more. But maybe at 10 million download intervals, or 75
> million or something like that, we announce more broadly?
>
Related though: How 4.0 downloads will be counted? Starting from zero?
Adding them to the 3.4 numbers? Maybe both? Something like "X million
downloads of which Y millions from our latest mayor release alone" would be
interesting.
Regards
Ricardo
>
> Regards,
>
> -Rob
>
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