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Posted to dev@beam.apache.org by Davor Bonaci <da...@google.com.INVALID> on 2016/12/02 19:40:29 UTC
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduation to a top-level project
A quick update on the progress: the PPMC is nearly complete drafting the
proposed resolution, and I've just kicked off the discussion within the
Incubator community [1].
I'd encourage everyone to participate in the discussion and carry your
enthusiasm there. Thanks!
Davor
[1]
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/b9c1071b35558846836814575ada3cdca61c72dc1e672ab994a9c936@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E
On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 1:52 AM, Maximilian Michels <mx...@apache.org> wrote:
> +1
>
> I see a healthy project which deserves to graduate.
>
> On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 6:03 PM, Davor Bonaci <da...@apache.org> wrote:
> > Thanks everyone for the enthusiastic support!
> >
> > Please keep the thread going, as we kick off the process on private@.
> > Please don’t forget to bring up any data points that might help
> strengthen
> > our case.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 8:45 AM, Scott Wegner <swegner@google.com.invalid
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> >> +1 (beaming)
> >>
> >> On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 8:25 AM Robert Bradshaw
> >> <ro...@google.com.invalid>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> +1
> >>
> >> On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 7:36 AM, Lukasz Cwik <lc...@google.com.invalid>
> >> wrote:
> >> > +1
> >> >
> >> > On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 9:48 AM, Stephan Ewen <se...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> +1
> >> >> The community if doing very well and behaving very Apache
> >> >>
> >> >> On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 9:54 AM, Etienne Chauchot <
> echauchot@gmail.com>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > A big +1 of course, very excited to go forward
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Etienne
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Le 22/11/2016 à 19:19, Davor Bonaci a écrit :
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> Hi everyone,
> >> >> >> With all the progress we’ve had recently in Apache Beam, I think
> it
> >> is
> >> >> >> time
> >> >> >> we start the discussion about graduation as a new top-level
> project
> >> at
> >> >> the
> >> >> >> Apache Software Foundation.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Graduation means we are a self-sustaining and self-governing
> >> community,
> >> >> >> and
> >> >> >> ready to be a full participant in the Apache Software Foundation.
> It
> >> >> does
> >> >> >> not imply that our community growth is complete or that a
> particular
> >> >> level
> >> >> >> of technical maturity has been reached, rather that we are on a
> solid
> >> >> >> trajectory in those areas. After graduation, we will still
> >> periodically
> >> >> >> report to, and be overseen by, the ASF Board to ensure continued
> >> growth
> >> >> of
> >> >> >> a healthy community.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Graduation is an important milestone for the project. It is also
> key
> >> to
> >> >> >> further grow the user community: many users (incorrectly) see
> >> incubation
> >> >> >> as
> >> >> >> a sign of instability and are much less likely to consider us for
> a
> >> >> >> production use.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> A way to think about graduation readiness is through the Apache
> >> Maturity
> >> >> >> Model [1]. I think we clearly satisfy all the requirements [2].
> It is
> >> >> >> probably worth emphasizing the recent community growth: over each
> of
> >> the
> >> >> >> past three months, no single organization contributing to Beam has
> >> had
> >> >> >> more
> >> >> >> than ~50% of the unique contributors per month [2, see
> assumptions].
> >> >> >> That’s
> >> >> >> a great statistic that shows how much we’ve grown our diversity!
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Process-wise, graduation consists of drafting a board resolution,
> >> which
> >> >> >> needs to identify the full Project Management Committee, and
> getting
> >> it
> >> >> >> approved by the community, the Incubator, and the Board. Within
> the
> >> Beam
> >> >> >> community, most of these discussions and votes have to be on the
> >> >> private@
> >> >> >> mailing list, but, as usual, we’ll try to keep dev@ updated as
> much
> >> as
> >> >> >> possible.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> With that in mind, let’s use this discussion on dev@ for two
> things:
> >> >> >> * Collect additional data points on our progress that we may want
> to
> >> >> >> present to the Incubator as a part of the proposal to accept our
> >> >> >> graduation.
> >> >> >> * Determine whether the community supports graduation. Please
> reply
> >> >> +1/-1
> >> >> >> with any additional comments, as appropriate. I’d encourage
> everyone
> >> to
> >> >> >> participate -- regardless whether you are an occasional visitor or
> >> have
> >> >> a
> >> >> >> specific role in the project -- we’d love to hear your
> perspective.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Data points so far:
> >> >> >> * Project’s maturity self-assessment [2].
> >> >> >> * 1500 pull requests in incubation, which makes us one of the most
> >> >> active
> >> >> >> project across all of ASF on this metric.
> >> >> >> * 3 releases, each driven by a different release manager.
> >> >> >> * 120+ individual contributors.
> >> >> >> * 3 new committers added, 2 of which aren’t from the largest
> >> >> organization.
> >> >> >> * 1027 issues created, 515 resolved.
> >> >> >> * 442 dev@ emails in October alone, sent by 51 individuals.
> >> >> >> * 50 user@ emails in the last 30 days, sent by 22 individuals.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Thanks!
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Davor
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> [1] http://community.apache.org/apache-way/apache-project-
> >> >> >> maturity-model.html
> >> >> >> [2] http://beam.incubator.apache.org/contribute/maturity-model/
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >>
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduation to a top-level project
Posted by Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>.
The process started: Apache git repo has been renamed from
incubator-beam to beam.
Github integration uses a redirection now.
It impacts Travis/Jenkins: just got a build fail after updating RedisIO PR.
Regards
JB
On 12/28/2016 07:22 AM, Davor Bonaci wrote:
> As part of the process, Apache Infra should be reconfiguring our DNS
> records, repository URLs, mailing list addresses, etc. shortly. Please
> expect some instability over the next several days while this is sorted
> out. This work is tracked in INFRA-13177 [1] -- please report any issues
> there.
>
> The announcement is still planned for the second week in January.
>
> Davor
>
> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-13177
>
> On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 1:22 PM, Davor Bonaci <da...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> A quick update: a meeting of the ASF Board of Directors is scheduled for
>> later this week, at which the Board may consider taking action on our
>> graduation proposal!
>>
>> That said, even if the Board does enact it, any public announcement is
>> expected to be delayed to the first half of January due to the holidays.
>>
>> In the meanwhile, we are still an Incubator podling and should continue to
>> operate as such until the ASF announces otherwise... so, please hold your
>> speculation and enthusiasm for another few weeks ;-)
>>
>> Davor
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 11:09 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofr� <jb...@nanthrax.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Congrats all !
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> JB
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/09/2016 12:42 AM, Davor Bonaci wrote:
>>>
>>>> A quick update: the Apache Incubator has adopted the proposed graduation
>>>> resolution [1], and it is now presented to the ASF Board of Directors for
>>>> their consideration.
>>>>
>>>> Davor
>>>>
>>>> [1]
>>>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/71a1c63837a7d1506a10af9
>>>> c70af1c24db988451ac5b53fa2467b9b8@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 10:35 AM, Neelesh Salian <ns...@cloudera.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Quite an interesting discussion. Looking forward to the graduation. :)
>>>>> Thanks for putting this together.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 10:30 AM, Davor Bonaci <da...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> A quick update: the vote within the Incubator has been started [1].
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Davor
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [1]
>>>>>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/a8e9cecfe93f0e464cc7c1774d2761
>>>>>> ca14326df1101b7670ca8b1dc3@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 11:40 AM, Davor Bonaci <da...@google.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A quick update on the progress: the PPMC is nearly complete drafting
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> the
>>>>>
>>>>>> proposed resolution, and I've just kicked off the discussion within the
>>>>>>> Incubator community [1].
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'd encourage everyone to participate in the discussion and carry your
>>>>>>> enthusiasm there. Thanks!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Davor
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/b9c1071b355588468368145
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> 75ada3c
>>>>>
>>>>>> dca61c72dc1e672ab994a9c936@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 1:52 AM, Maximilian Michels <mx...@apache.org>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> +1
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I see a healthy project which deserves to graduate.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 6:03 PM, Davor Bonaci <da...@apache.org>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks everyone for the enthusiastic support!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Please keep the thread going, as we kick off the process on private@
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>
>>>>>> Please don\u2019t forget to bring up any data points that might help
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> strengthen
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> our case.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 8:45 AM, Scott Wegner
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <sw...@google.com.invalid>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> +1 (beaming)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 8:25 AM Robert Bradshaw
>>>>>>>>>> <ro...@google.com.invalid>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> +1
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 7:36 AM, Lukasz Cwik
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> <lcwik@google.com.invalid
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> +1
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 9:48 AM, Stephan Ewen <se...@apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> +1
>>>>>>>>>>>> The community if doing very well and behaving very Apache
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 9:54 AM, Etienne Chauchot <
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> echauchot@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> A big +1 of course, very excited to go forward
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Etienne
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Le 22/11/2016 � 19:19, Davor Bonaci a �crit :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> With all the progress we\u2019ve had recently in Apache Beam, I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> think
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> time
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we start the discussion about graduation as a new top-level
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> project
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache Software Foundation.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Graduation means we are a self-sustaining and self-governing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> community,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ready to be a full participant in the Apache Software
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Foundation. It
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> does
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> not imply that our community growth is complete or that a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> particular
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> level
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of technical maturity has been reached, rather that we are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> on a
>>>>>
>>>>>> solid
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> trajectory in those areas. After graduation, we will still
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> periodically
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> report to, and be overseen by, the ASF Board to ensure
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> continued
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> growth
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a healthy community.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Graduation is an important milestone for the project. It is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> also
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> key
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> further grow the user community: many users (incorrectly) see
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> incubation
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a sign of instability and are much less likely to consider us
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> for a
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> production use.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A way to think about graduation readiness is through the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache
>>>>>
>>>>>> Maturity
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Model [1]. I think we clearly satisfy all the requirements
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [2].
>>>>>
>>>>>> It is
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> probably worth emphasizing the recent community growth: over
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> each of
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> past three months, no single organization contributing to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Beam
>>>>>
>>>>>> has
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> had
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than ~50% of the unique contributors per month [2, see
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> assumptions].
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That\u2019s
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a great statistic that shows how much we\u2019ve grown our
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> diversity!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Process-wise, graduation consists of drafting a board
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> resolution,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> needs to identify the full Project Management Committee, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> getting
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> approved by the community, the Incubator, and the Board.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Within
>>>>>
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Beam
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> community, most of these discussions and votes have to be on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> private@
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> mailing list, but, as usual, we\u2019ll try to keep dev@ updated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>
>>>>>> much
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> possible.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> With that in mind, let\u2019s use this discussion on dev@ for two
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> things:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> * Collect additional data points on our progress that we may
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> want to
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> present to the Incubator as a part of the proposal to accept
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> our
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> graduation.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * Determine whether the community supports graduation. Please
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> reply
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> +1/-1
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> with any additional comments, as appropriate. I\u2019d encourage
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> everyone
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> participate -- regardless whether you are an occasional
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> visitor
>>>>>
>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> specific role in the project -- we\u2019d love to hear your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> perspective.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Data points so far:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * Project\u2019s maturity self-assessment [2].
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * 1500 pull requests in incubation, which makes us one of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> most
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> active
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> project across all of ASF on this metric.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * 3 releases, each driven by a different release manager.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * 120+ individual contributors.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * 3 new committers added, 2 of which aren\u2019t from the largest
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> organization.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> * 1027 issues created, 515 resolved.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * 442 dev@ emails in October alone, sent by 51 individuals.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * 50 user@ emails in the last 30 days, sent by 22
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> individuals.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Davor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] http://community.apache.org/apache-way/apache-project-
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> maturity-model.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [2] http://beam.incubator.apache.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> org/contribute/maturity-model/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Neelesh Srinivas Salian
>>>>> Customer Operations Engineer
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>> --
>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofr�
>>> jbonofre@apache.org
>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>>>
>>
>>
>
--
Jean-Baptiste Onofr�
jbonofre@apache.org
http://blog.nanthrax.net
Talend - http://www.talend.com
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduation to a top-level project
Posted by Davor Bonaci <da...@apache.org>.
A quick update: the Apache Infra process, tracked in INFRA-13177 [1],
should now be complete. As far as I see, everything should be operational
-- please reply back if you encounter something unexpected.
The announcement is still planned for the second week in January.
Davor
[1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-13177
On Tue, Dec 27, 2016 at 11:32 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>
wrote:
> FYI, updating remotes on my git local and changing the parent pom version
> to 0.5.0-SNAPSHOT work smoothly. For the test, I also prune my local Maven
> repo.
>
> Regards
> JB
>
> On 12/28/2016 07:22 AM, Davor Bonaci wrote:
>
>> As part of the process, Apache Infra should be reconfiguring our DNS
>> records, repository URLs, mailing list addresses, etc. shortly. Please
>> expect some instability over the next several days while this is sorted
>> out. This work is tracked in INFRA-13177 [1] -- please report any issues
>> there.
>>
>> The announcement is still planned for the second week in January.
>>
>> Davor
>>
>> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-13177
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 1:22 PM, Davor Bonaci <da...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>> A quick update: a meeting of the ASF Board of Directors is scheduled for
>>> later this week, at which the Board may consider taking action on our
>>> graduation proposal!
>>>
>>> That said, even if the Board does enact it, any public announcement is
>>> expected to be delayed to the first half of January due to the holidays.
>>>
>>> In the meanwhile, we are still an Incubator podling and should continue
>>> to
>>> operate as such until the ASF announces otherwise... so, please hold your
>>> speculation and enthusiasm for another few weeks ;-)
>>>
>>> Davor
>>>
>>> On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 11:09 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Congrats all !
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> JB
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 12/09/2016 12:42 AM, Davor Bonaci wrote:
>>>>
>>>> A quick update: the Apache Incubator has adopted the proposed graduation
>>>>> resolution [1], and it is now presented to the ASF Board of Directors
>>>>> for
>>>>> their consideration.
>>>>>
>>>>> Davor
>>>>>
>>>>> [1]
>>>>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/71a1c63837a7d1506a10af9
>>>>> c70af1c24db988451ac5b53fa2467b9b8@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 10:35 AM, Neelesh Salian <ns...@cloudera.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Quite an interesting discussion. Looking forward to the graduation. :)
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks for putting this together.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 10:30 AM, Davor Bonaci <da...@apache.org>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A quick update: the vote within the Incubator has been started [1].
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Davor
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [1]
>>>>>>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/a8e9cecfe93f0e464cc7c1774d2761
>>>>>>> ca14326df1101b7670ca8b1dc3@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 11:40 AM, Davor Bonaci <da...@google.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A quick update on the progress: the PPMC is nearly complete drafting
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> proposed resolution, and I've just kicked off the discussion within
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Incubator community [1].
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'd encourage everyone to participate in the discussion and carry
>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>> enthusiasm there. Thanks!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Davor
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/b9c1071b355588468368145
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 75ada3c
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> dca61c72dc1e672ab994a9c936@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 1:52 AM, Maximilian Michels <mxm@apache.org
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> +1
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I see a healthy project which deserves to graduate.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 6:03 PM, Davor Bonaci <da...@apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks everyone for the enthusiastic support!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Please keep the thread going, as we kick off the process on
>>>>>>>>>> private@
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please don’t forget to bring up any data points that might help
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> strengthen
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> our case.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 8:45 AM, Scott Wegner
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> <sw...@google.com.invalid>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> +1 (beaming)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 8:25 AM Robert Bradshaw
>>>>>>>>>>> <ro...@google.com.invalid>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> +1
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 7:36 AM, Lukasz Cwik
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> <lcwik@google.com.invalid
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> +1
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 9:48 AM, Stephan Ewen <sewen@apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> +1
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The community if doing very well and behaving very Apache
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 9:54 AM, Etienne Chauchot <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> echauchot@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> A big +1 of course, very excited to go forward
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Etienne
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Le 22/11/2016 à 19:19, Davor Bonaci a écrit :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> With all the progress we’ve had recently in Apache Beam, I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> time
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> we start the discussion about graduation as a new top-level
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> project
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache Software Foundation.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Graduation means we are a self-sustaining and self-governing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> community,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ready to be a full participant in the Apache Software
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Foundation. It
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> does
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> not imply that our community growth is complete or that a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> particular
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> level
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of technical maturity has been reached, rather that we are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> solid
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> trajectory in those areas. After graduation, we will still
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> periodically
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> report to, and be overseen by, the ASF Board to ensure
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> continued
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> growth
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a healthy community.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Graduation is an important milestone for the project. It is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> also
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> key
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> further grow the user community: many users (incorrectly) see
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> incubation
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a sign of instability and are much less likely to consider us
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> production use.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A way to think about graduation readiness is through the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Maturity
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Model [1]. I think we clearly satisfy all the requirements
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [2].
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> probably worth emphasizing the recent community growth: over
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> each of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> past three months, no single organization contributing to
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Beam
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> has
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> had
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> than ~50% of the unique contributors per month [2, see
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> assumptions].
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That’s
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> a great statistic that shows how much we’ve grown our
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> diversity!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Process-wise, graduation consists of drafting a board
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resolution,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> needs to identify the full Project Management Committee, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> getting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> approved by the community, the Incubator, and the Board.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Within
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Beam
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> community, most of these discussions and votes have to be on
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> private@
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> mailing list, but, as usual, we’ll try to keep dev@ updated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> much
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> possible.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> With that in mind, let’s use this discussion on dev@ for two
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> things:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> * Collect additional data points on our progress that we may
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> want to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> present to the Incubator as a part of the proposal to accept
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> our
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> graduation.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> * Determine whether the community supports graduation. Please
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reply
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> +1/-1
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> with any additional comments, as appropriate. I’d encourage
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everyone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> participate -- regardless whether you are an occasional
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> visitor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> specific role in the project -- we’d love to hear your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> perspective.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Data points so far:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * Project’s maturity self-assessment [2].
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * 1500 pull requests in incubation, which makes us one of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> most
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> active
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> project across all of ASF on this metric.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * 3 releases, each driven by a different release manager.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * 120+ individual contributors.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * 3 new committers added, 2 of which aren’t from the largest
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> organization.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> * 1027 issues created, 515 resolved.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * 442 dev@ emails in October alone, sent by 51 individuals.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * 50 user@ emails in the last 30 days, sent by 22
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> individuals.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Davor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] http://community.apache.org/apache-way/apache-project-
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> maturity-model.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [2] http://beam.incubator.apache.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> org/contribute/maturity-model/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Neelesh Srinivas Salian
>>>>>> Customer Operations Engineer
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>>>> jbonofre@apache.org
>>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>>>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
> --
> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
> jbonofre@apache.org
> http://blog.nanthrax.net
> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduation to a top-level project
Posted by Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>.
FYI, updating remotes on my git local and changing the parent pom
version to 0.5.0-SNAPSHOT work smoothly. For the test, I also prune my
local Maven repo.
Regards
JB
On 12/28/2016 07:22 AM, Davor Bonaci wrote:
> As part of the process, Apache Infra should be reconfiguring our DNS
> records, repository URLs, mailing list addresses, etc. shortly. Please
> expect some instability over the next several days while this is sorted
> out. This work is tracked in INFRA-13177 [1] -- please report any issues
> there.
>
> The announcement is still planned for the second week in January.
>
> Davor
>
> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-13177
>
> On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 1:22 PM, Davor Bonaci <da...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> A quick update: a meeting of the ASF Board of Directors is scheduled for
>> later this week, at which the Board may consider taking action on our
>> graduation proposal!
>>
>> That said, even if the Board does enact it, any public announcement is
>> expected to be delayed to the first half of January due to the holidays.
>>
>> In the meanwhile, we are still an Incubator podling and should continue to
>> operate as such until the ASF announces otherwise... so, please hold your
>> speculation and enthusiasm for another few weeks ;-)
>>
>> Davor
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 11:09 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofr� <jb...@nanthrax.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Congrats all !
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> JB
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/09/2016 12:42 AM, Davor Bonaci wrote:
>>>
>>>> A quick update: the Apache Incubator has adopted the proposed graduation
>>>> resolution [1], and it is now presented to the ASF Board of Directors for
>>>> their consideration.
>>>>
>>>> Davor
>>>>
>>>> [1]
>>>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/71a1c63837a7d1506a10af9
>>>> c70af1c24db988451ac5b53fa2467b9b8@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 10:35 AM, Neelesh Salian <ns...@cloudera.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Quite an interesting discussion. Looking forward to the graduation. :)
>>>>> Thanks for putting this together.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 10:30 AM, Davor Bonaci <da...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> A quick update: the vote within the Incubator has been started [1].
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Davor
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [1]
>>>>>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/a8e9cecfe93f0e464cc7c1774d2761
>>>>>> ca14326df1101b7670ca8b1dc3@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 11:40 AM, Davor Bonaci <da...@google.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A quick update on the progress: the PPMC is nearly complete drafting
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> the
>>>>>
>>>>>> proposed resolution, and I've just kicked off the discussion within the
>>>>>>> Incubator community [1].
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'd encourage everyone to participate in the discussion and carry your
>>>>>>> enthusiasm there. Thanks!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Davor
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/b9c1071b355588468368145
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> 75ada3c
>>>>>
>>>>>> dca61c72dc1e672ab994a9c936@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 1:52 AM, Maximilian Michels <mx...@apache.org>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> +1
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I see a healthy project which deserves to graduate.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 6:03 PM, Davor Bonaci <da...@apache.org>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks everyone for the enthusiastic support!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Please keep the thread going, as we kick off the process on private@
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>
>>>>>> Please don\u2019t forget to bring up any data points that might help
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> strengthen
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> our case.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 8:45 AM, Scott Wegner
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <sw...@google.com.invalid>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> +1 (beaming)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 8:25 AM Robert Bradshaw
>>>>>>>>>> <ro...@google.com.invalid>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> +1
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 7:36 AM, Lukasz Cwik
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> <lcwik@google.com.invalid
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> +1
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 9:48 AM, Stephan Ewen <se...@apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> +1
>>>>>>>>>>>> The community if doing very well and behaving very Apache
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 9:54 AM, Etienne Chauchot <
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> echauchot@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> A big +1 of course, very excited to go forward
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Etienne
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Le 22/11/2016 � 19:19, Davor Bonaci a �crit :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> With all the progress we\u2019ve had recently in Apache Beam, I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> think
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> time
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we start the discussion about graduation as a new top-level
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> project
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache Software Foundation.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Graduation means we are a self-sustaining and self-governing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> community,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ready to be a full participant in the Apache Software
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Foundation. It
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> does
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> not imply that our community growth is complete or that a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> particular
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> level
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> of technical maturity has been reached, rather that we are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> on a
>>>>>
>>>>>> solid
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> trajectory in those areas. After graduation, we will still
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> periodically
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> report to, and be overseen by, the ASF Board to ensure
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> continued
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> growth
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a healthy community.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Graduation is an important milestone for the project. It is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> also
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> key
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> further grow the user community: many users (incorrectly) see
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> incubation
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a sign of instability and are much less likely to consider us
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> for a
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> production use.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A way to think about graduation readiness is through the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache
>>>>>
>>>>>> Maturity
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Model [1]. I think we clearly satisfy all the requirements
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [2].
>>>>>
>>>>>> It is
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> probably worth emphasizing the recent community growth: over
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> each of
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> past three months, no single organization contributing to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Beam
>>>>>
>>>>>> has
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> had
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than ~50% of the unique contributors per month [2, see
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> assumptions].
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That\u2019s
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a great statistic that shows how much we\u2019ve grown our
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> diversity!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Process-wise, graduation consists of drafting a board
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> resolution,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> needs to identify the full Project Management Committee, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> getting
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> approved by the community, the Incubator, and the Board.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Within
>>>>>
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Beam
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> community, most of these discussions and votes have to be on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> private@
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> mailing list, but, as usual, we\u2019ll try to keep dev@ updated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>
>>>>>> much
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> possible.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> With that in mind, let\u2019s use this discussion on dev@ for two
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> things:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> * Collect additional data points on our progress that we may
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> want to
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> present to the Incubator as a part of the proposal to accept
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> our
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> graduation.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * Determine whether the community supports graduation. Please
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> reply
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> +1/-1
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> with any additional comments, as appropriate. I\u2019d encourage
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> everyone
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> participate -- regardless whether you are an occasional
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> visitor
>>>>>
>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> specific role in the project -- we\u2019d love to hear your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> perspective.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Data points so far:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * Project\u2019s maturity self-assessment [2].
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * 1500 pull requests in incubation, which makes us one of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> most
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> active
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> project across all of ASF on this metric.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * 3 releases, each driven by a different release manager.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * 120+ individual contributors.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * 3 new committers added, 2 of which aren\u2019t from the largest
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> organization.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> * 1027 issues created, 515 resolved.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * 442 dev@ emails in October alone, sent by 51 individuals.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * 50 user@ emails in the last 30 days, sent by 22
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> individuals.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Davor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] http://community.apache.org/apache-way/apache-project-
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> maturity-model.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [2] http://beam.incubator.apache.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> org/contribute/maturity-model/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Neelesh Srinivas Salian
>>>>> Customer Operations Engineer
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>> --
>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofr�
>>> jbonofre@apache.org
>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>>>
>>
>>
>
--
Jean-Baptiste Onofr�
jbonofre@apache.org
http://blog.nanthrax.net
Talend - http://www.talend.com
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduation to a top-level project
Posted by Davor Bonaci <da...@apache.org>.
As part of the process, Apache Infra should be reconfiguring our DNS
records, repository URLs, mailing list addresses, etc. shortly. Please
expect some instability over the next several days while this is sorted
out. This work is tracked in INFRA-13177 [1] -- please report any issues
there.
The announcement is still planned for the second week in January.
Davor
[1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-13177
On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 1:22 PM, Davor Bonaci <da...@apache.org> wrote:
> A quick update: a meeting of the ASF Board of Directors is scheduled for
> later this week, at which the Board may consider taking action on our
> graduation proposal!
>
> That said, even if the Board does enact it, any public announcement is
> expected to be delayed to the first half of January due to the holidays.
>
> In the meanwhile, we are still an Incubator podling and should continue to
> operate as such until the ASF announces otherwise... so, please hold your
> speculation and enthusiasm for another few weeks ;-)
>
> Davor
>
> On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 11:09 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Congrats all !
>>
>> Regards
>> JB
>>
>>
>> On 12/09/2016 12:42 AM, Davor Bonaci wrote:
>>
>>> A quick update: the Apache Incubator has adopted the proposed graduation
>>> resolution [1], and it is now presented to the ASF Board of Directors for
>>> their consideration.
>>>
>>> Davor
>>>
>>> [1]
>>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/71a1c63837a7d1506a10af9
>>> c70af1c24db988451ac5b53fa2467b9b8@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E
>>>
>>> On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 10:35 AM, Neelesh Salian <ns...@cloudera.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Quite an interesting discussion. Looking forward to the graduation. :)
>>>> Thanks for putting this together.
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 10:30 AM, Davor Bonaci <da...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> A quick update: the vote within the Incubator has been started [1].
>>>>>
>>>>> Davor
>>>>>
>>>>> [1]
>>>>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/a8e9cecfe93f0e464cc7c1774d2761
>>>>> ca14326df1101b7670ca8b1dc3@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 11:40 AM, Davor Bonaci <da...@google.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> A quick update on the progress: the PPMC is nearly complete drafting
>>>>>>
>>>>> the
>>>>
>>>>> proposed resolution, and I've just kicked off the discussion within the
>>>>>> Incubator community [1].
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'd encourage everyone to participate in the discussion and carry your
>>>>>> enthusiasm there. Thanks!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Davor
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/b9c1071b355588468368145
>>>>>>
>>>>> 75ada3c
>>>>
>>>>> dca61c72dc1e672ab994a9c936@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 1:52 AM, Maximilian Michels <mx...@apache.org>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> +1
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I see a healthy project which deserves to graduate.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 6:03 PM, Davor Bonaci <da...@apache.org>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks everyone for the enthusiastic support!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Please keep the thread going, as we kick off the process on private@
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> .
>>>>
>>>>> Please don’t forget to bring up any data points that might help
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> strengthen
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> our case.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 8:45 AM, Scott Wegner
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <sw...@google.com.invalid>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> +1 (beaming)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 8:25 AM Robert Bradshaw
>>>>>>>>> <ro...@google.com.invalid>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> +1
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 7:36 AM, Lukasz Cwik
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <lcwik@google.com.invalid
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> +1
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 9:48 AM, Stephan Ewen <se...@apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> +1
>>>>>>>>>>> The community if doing very well and behaving very Apache
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 9:54 AM, Etienne Chauchot <
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> echauchot@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> A big +1 of course, very excited to go forward
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Etienne
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Le 22/11/2016 à 19:19, Davor Bonaci a écrit :
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> With all the progress we’ve had recently in Apache Beam, I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> think
>>>>>
>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> time
>>>>>>>>>>>>> we start the discussion about graduation as a new top-level
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> project
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache Software Foundation.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Graduation means we are a self-sustaining and self-governing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> community,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ready to be a full participant in the Apache Software
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Foundation. It
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> does
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> not imply that our community growth is complete or that a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> particular
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> level
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> of technical maturity has been reached, rather that we are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> on a
>>>>
>>>>> solid
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> trajectory in those areas. After graduation, we will still
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> periodically
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> report to, and be overseen by, the ASF Board to ensure
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> continued
>>>>>
>>>>>> growth
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> a healthy community.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Graduation is an important milestone for the project. It is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> also
>>>>>
>>>>>> key
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> further grow the user community: many users (incorrectly) see
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> incubation
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a sign of instability and are much less likely to consider us
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> for a
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> production use.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> A way to think about graduation readiness is through the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Apache
>>>>
>>>>> Maturity
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Model [1]. I think we clearly satisfy all the requirements
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> [2].
>>>>
>>>>> It is
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> probably worth emphasizing the recent community growth: over
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> each of
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> past three months, no single organization contributing to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Beam
>>>>
>>>>> has
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> had
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>>>>>>>> than ~50% of the unique contributors per month [2, see
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> assumptions].
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That’s
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a great statistic that shows how much we’ve grown our
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> diversity!
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Process-wise, graduation consists of drafting a board
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> resolution,
>>>>>
>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> needs to identify the full Project Management Committee, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> getting
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> approved by the community, the Incubator, and the Board.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Within
>>>>
>>>>> the
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Beam
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> community, most of these discussions and votes have to be on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>
>>>>>> private@
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> mailing list, but, as usual, we’ll try to keep dev@ updated
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>
>>>>> much
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> possible.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> With that in mind, let’s use this discussion on dev@ for two
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> things:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> * Collect additional data points on our progress that we may
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> want to
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> present to the Incubator as a part of the proposal to accept
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> our
>>>>>
>>>>>> graduation.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> * Determine whether the community supports graduation. Please
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> reply
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> +1/-1
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> with any additional comments, as appropriate. I’d encourage
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> everyone
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> participate -- regardless whether you are an occasional
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> visitor
>>>>
>>>>> or
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> specific role in the project -- we’d love to hear your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> perspective.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Data points so far:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> * Project’s maturity self-assessment [2].
>>>>>>>>>>>>> * 1500 pull requests in incubation, which makes us one of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> most
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> active
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> project across all of ASF on this metric.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> * 3 releases, each driven by a different release manager.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> * 120+ individual contributors.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> * 3 new committers added, 2 of which aren’t from the largest
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> organization.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> * 1027 issues created, 515 resolved.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> * 442 dev@ emails in October alone, sent by 51 individuals.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> * 50 user@ emails in the last 30 days, sent by 22
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> individuals.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Davor
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] http://community.apache.org/apache-way/apache-project-
>>>>>>>>>>>>> maturity-model.html
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [2] http://beam.incubator.apache.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> org/contribute/maturity-model/
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Neelesh Srinivas Salian
>>>> Customer Operations Engineer
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>> --
>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>> jbonofre@apache.org
>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>>
>
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduation to a top-level project
Posted by Davor Bonaci <da...@apache.org>.
A quick update: a meeting of the ASF Board of Directors is scheduled for
later this week, at which the Board may consider taking action on our
graduation proposal!
That said, even if the Board does enact it, any public announcement is
expected to be delayed to the first half of January due to the holidays.
In the meanwhile, we are still an Incubator podling and should continue to
operate as such until the ASF announces otherwise... so, please hold your
speculation and enthusiasm for another few weeks ;-)
Davor
On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 11:09 PM, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>
wrote:
> Congrats all !
>
> Regards
> JB
>
>
> On 12/09/2016 12:42 AM, Davor Bonaci wrote:
>
>> A quick update: the Apache Incubator has adopted the proposed graduation
>> resolution [1], and it is now presented to the ASF Board of Directors for
>> their consideration.
>>
>> Davor
>>
>> [1]
>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/71a1c63837a7d1506a10af9
>> c70af1c24db988451ac5b53fa2467b9b8@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 10:35 AM, Neelesh Salian <ns...@cloudera.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Quite an interesting discussion. Looking forward to the graduation. :)
>>> Thanks for putting this together.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 10:30 AM, Davor Bonaci <da...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> A quick update: the vote within the Incubator has been started [1].
>>>>
>>>> Davor
>>>>
>>>> [1]
>>>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/a8e9cecfe93f0e464cc7c1774d2761
>>>> ca14326df1101b7670ca8b1dc3@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 11:40 AM, Davor Bonaci <da...@google.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> A quick update on the progress: the PPMC is nearly complete drafting
>>>>>
>>>> the
>>>
>>>> proposed resolution, and I've just kicked off the discussion within the
>>>>> Incubator community [1].
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd encourage everyone to participate in the discussion and carry your
>>>>> enthusiasm there. Thanks!
>>>>>
>>>>> Davor
>>>>>
>>>>> [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/b9c1071b355588468368145
>>>>>
>>>> 75ada3c
>>>
>>>> dca61c72dc1e672ab994a9c936@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 1:52 AM, Maximilian Michels <mx...@apache.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> +1
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I see a healthy project which deserves to graduate.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 6:03 PM, Davor Bonaci <da...@apache.org>
>>>>>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks everyone for the enthusiastic support!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Please keep the thread going, as we kick off the process on private@
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> .
>>>
>>>> Please don’t forget to bring up any data points that might help
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> strengthen
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> our case.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 8:45 AM, Scott Wegner
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> <sw...@google.com.invalid>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> +1 (beaming)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 8:25 AM Robert Bradshaw
>>>>>>>> <ro...@google.com.invalid>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> +1
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 7:36 AM, Lukasz Cwik
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <lcwik@google.com.invalid
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> +1
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 9:48 AM, Stephan Ewen <se...@apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> +1
>>>>>>>>>> The community if doing very well and behaving very Apache
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 9:54 AM, Etienne Chauchot <
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> echauchot@gmail.com>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> A big +1 of course, very excited to go forward
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Etienne
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Le 22/11/2016 à 19:19, Davor Bonaci a écrit :
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>>>>>>>> With all the progress we’ve had recently in Apache Beam, I
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> think
>>>>
>>>>> it
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> time
>>>>>>>>>>>> we start the discussion about graduation as a new top-level
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> project
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Apache Software Foundation.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Graduation means we are a self-sustaining and self-governing
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> community,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>> ready to be a full participant in the Apache Software
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Foundation. It
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> does
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> not imply that our community growth is complete or that a
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> particular
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> level
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> of technical maturity has been reached, rather that we are
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> on a
>>>
>>>> solid
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> trajectory in those areas. After graduation, we will still
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> periodically
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> report to, and be overseen by, the ASF Board to ensure
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> continued
>>>>
>>>>> growth
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> a healthy community.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Graduation is an important milestone for the project. It is
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> also
>>>>
>>>>> key
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> further grow the user community: many users (incorrectly) see
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> incubation
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>> a sign of instability and are much less likely to consider us
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> for a
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> production use.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> A way to think about graduation readiness is through the
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Apache
>>>
>>>> Maturity
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Model [1]. I think we clearly satisfy all the requirements
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> [2].
>>>
>>>> It is
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> probably worth emphasizing the recent community growth: over
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> each of
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> past three months, no single organization contributing to
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Beam
>>>
>>>> has
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> had
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>>>>>>> than ~50% of the unique contributors per month [2, see
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> assumptions].
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That’s
>>>>>>>>>>>> a great statistic that shows how much we’ve grown our
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> diversity!
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Process-wise, graduation consists of drafting a board
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> resolution,
>>>>
>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> needs to identify the full Project Management Committee, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> getting
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> approved by the community, the Incubator, and the Board.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Within
>>>
>>>> the
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Beam
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> community, most of these discussions and votes have to be on
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>
>>>>> private@
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> mailing list, but, as usual, we’ll try to keep dev@ updated
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>
>>>> much
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> possible.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> With that in mind, let’s use this discussion on dev@ for two
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> things:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> * Collect additional data points on our progress that we may
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> want to
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> present to the Incubator as a part of the proposal to accept
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> our
>>>>
>>>>> graduation.
>>>>>>>>>>>> * Determine whether the community supports graduation. Please
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> reply
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> +1/-1
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> with any additional comments, as appropriate. I’d encourage
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> everyone
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> participate -- regardless whether you are an occasional
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> visitor
>>>
>>>> or
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> specific role in the project -- we’d love to hear your
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> perspective.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Data points so far:
>>>>>>>>>>>> * Project’s maturity self-assessment [2].
>>>>>>>>>>>> * 1500 pull requests in incubation, which makes us one of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> most
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> active
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> project across all of ASF on this metric.
>>>>>>>>>>>> * 3 releases, each driven by a different release manager.
>>>>>>>>>>>> * 120+ individual contributors.
>>>>>>>>>>>> * 3 new committers added, 2 of which aren’t from the largest
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> organization.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> * 1027 issues created, 515 resolved.
>>>>>>>>>>>> * 442 dev@ emails in October alone, sent by 51 individuals.
>>>>>>>>>>>> * 50 user@ emails in the last 30 days, sent by 22
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> individuals.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Davor
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] http://community.apache.org/apache-way/apache-project-
>>>>>>>>>>>> maturity-model.html
>>>>>>>>>>>> [2] http://beam.incubator.apache.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> org/contribute/maturity-model/
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Neelesh Srinivas Salian
>>> Customer Operations Engineer
>>>
>>>
>>
> --
> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
> jbonofre@apache.org
> http://blog.nanthrax.net
> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduation to a top-level project
Posted by Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>.
Congrats all !
Regards
JB
On 12/09/2016 12:42 AM, Davor Bonaci wrote:
> A quick update: the Apache Incubator has adopted the proposed graduation
> resolution [1], and it is now presented to the ASF Board of Directors for
> their consideration.
>
> Davor
>
> [1]
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/71a1c63837a7d1506a10af9c70af1c24db988451ac5b53fa2467b9b8@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E
>
> On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 10:35 AM, Neelesh Salian <ns...@cloudera.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Quite an interesting discussion. Looking forward to the graduation. :)
>> Thanks for putting this together.
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 10:30 AM, Davor Bonaci <da...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>> A quick update: the vote within the Incubator has been started [1].
>>>
>>> Davor
>>>
>>> [1]
>>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/a8e9cecfe93f0e464cc7c1774d2761
>>> ca14326df1101b7670ca8b1dc3@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E
>>>
>>> On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 11:40 AM, Davor Bonaci <da...@google.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> A quick update on the progress: the PPMC is nearly complete drafting
>> the
>>>> proposed resolution, and I've just kicked off the discussion within the
>>>> Incubator community [1].
>>>>
>>>> I'd encourage everyone to participate in the discussion and carry your
>>>> enthusiasm there. Thanks!
>>>>
>>>> Davor
>>>>
>>>> [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/b9c1071b355588468368145
>> 75ada3c
>>>> dca61c72dc1e672ab994a9c936@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 1:52 AM, Maximilian Michels <mx...@apache.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> +1
>>>>>
>>>>> I see a healthy project which deserves to graduate.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 6:03 PM, Davor Bonaci <da...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>>>>>> Thanks everyone for the enthusiastic support!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please keep the thread going, as we kick off the process on private@
>> .
>>>>>> Please don\u2019t forget to bring up any data points that might help
>>>>> strengthen
>>>>>> our case.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 8:45 AM, Scott Wegner
>>>>> <sw...@google.com.invalid>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> +1 (beaming)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 8:25 AM Robert Bradshaw
>>>>>>> <ro...@google.com.invalid>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> +1
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 7:36 AM, Lukasz Cwik
>>> <lcwik@google.com.invalid
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> +1
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 9:48 AM, Stephan Ewen <se...@apache.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> +1
>>>>>>>>> The community if doing very well and behaving very Apache
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 9:54 AM, Etienne Chauchot <
>>>>> echauchot@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> A big +1 of course, very excited to go forward
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Etienne
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Le 22/11/2016 � 19:19, Davor Bonaci a �crit :
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>>>>>>> With all the progress we\u2019ve had recently in Apache Beam, I
>>> think
>>>>> it
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>> time
>>>>>>>>>>> we start the discussion about graduation as a new top-level
>>>>> project
>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> Apache Software Foundation.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Graduation means we are a self-sustaining and self-governing
>>>>>>> community,
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> ready to be a full participant in the Apache Software
>>>>> Foundation. It
>>>>>>>>> does
>>>>>>>>>>> not imply that our community growth is complete or that a
>>>>> particular
>>>>>>>>> level
>>>>>>>>>>> of technical maturity has been reached, rather that we are
>> on a
>>>>> solid
>>>>>>>>>>> trajectory in those areas. After graduation, we will still
>>>>>>> periodically
>>>>>>>>>>> report to, and be overseen by, the ASF Board to ensure
>>> continued
>>>>>>> growth
>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>> a healthy community.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Graduation is an important milestone for the project. It is
>>> also
>>>>> key
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> further grow the user community: many users (incorrectly) see
>>>>>>> incubation
>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>> a sign of instability and are much less likely to consider us
>>>>> for a
>>>>>>>>>>> production use.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> A way to think about graduation readiness is through the
>> Apache
>>>>>>> Maturity
>>>>>>>>>>> Model [1]. I think we clearly satisfy all the requirements
>> [2].
>>>>> It is
>>>>>>>>>>> probably worth emphasizing the recent community growth: over
>>>>> each of
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> past three months, no single organization contributing to
>> Beam
>>>>> has
>>>>>>> had
>>>>>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>>>>>> than ~50% of the unique contributors per month [2, see
>>>>> assumptions].
>>>>>>>>>>> That\u2019s
>>>>>>>>>>> a great statistic that shows how much we\u2019ve grown our
>>> diversity!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Process-wise, graduation consists of drafting a board
>>> resolution,
>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>>>> needs to identify the full Project Management Committee, and
>>>>> getting
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>> approved by the community, the Incubator, and the Board.
>> Within
>>>>> the
>>>>>>> Beam
>>>>>>>>>>> community, most of these discussions and votes have to be on
>>> the
>>>>>>>>> private@
>>>>>>>>>>> mailing list, but, as usual, we\u2019ll try to keep dev@ updated
>> as
>>>>> much
>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>> possible.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> With that in mind, let\u2019s use this discussion on dev@ for two
>>>>> things:
>>>>>>>>>>> * Collect additional data points on our progress that we may
>>>>> want to
>>>>>>>>>>> present to the Incubator as a part of the proposal to accept
>>> our
>>>>>>>>>>> graduation.
>>>>>>>>>>> * Determine whether the community supports graduation. Please
>>>>> reply
>>>>>>>>> +1/-1
>>>>>>>>>>> with any additional comments, as appropriate. I\u2019d encourage
>>>>> everyone
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> participate -- regardless whether you are an occasional
>> visitor
>>>>> or
>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>> specific role in the project -- we\u2019d love to hear your
>>>>> perspective.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Data points so far:
>>>>>>>>>>> * Project\u2019s maturity self-assessment [2].
>>>>>>>>>>> * 1500 pull requests in incubation, which makes us one of the
>>>>> most
>>>>>>>>> active
>>>>>>>>>>> project across all of ASF on this metric.
>>>>>>>>>>> * 3 releases, each driven by a different release manager.
>>>>>>>>>>> * 120+ individual contributors.
>>>>>>>>>>> * 3 new committers added, 2 of which aren\u2019t from the largest
>>>>>>>>> organization.
>>>>>>>>>>> * 1027 issues created, 515 resolved.
>>>>>>>>>>> * 442 dev@ emails in October alone, sent by 51 individuals.
>>>>>>>>>>> * 50 user@ emails in the last 30 days, sent by 22
>> individuals.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Davor
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> [1] http://community.apache.org/apache-way/apache-project-
>>>>>>>>>>> maturity-model.html
>>>>>>>>>>> [2] http://beam.incubator.apache.
>>> org/contribute/maturity-model/
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Neelesh Srinivas Salian
>> Customer Operations Engineer
>>
>
--
Jean-Baptiste Onofr�
jbonofre@apache.org
http://blog.nanthrax.net
Talend - http://www.talend.com
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduation to a top-level project
Posted by Jesse Anderson <je...@smokinghand.com>.
Excellent!
On Thu, Dec 8, 2016 at 3:43 PM Davor Bonaci <da...@apache.org> wrote:
> A quick update: the Apache Incubator has adopted the proposed graduation
> resolution [1], and it is now presented to the ASF Board of Directors for
> their consideration.
>
> Davor
>
> [1]
>
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/71a1c63837a7d1506a10af9c70af1c24db988451ac5b53fa2467b9b8@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E
>
> On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 10:35 AM, Neelesh Salian <ns...@cloudera.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Quite an interesting discussion. Looking forward to the graduation. :)
> > Thanks for putting this together.
> >
> > On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 10:30 AM, Davor Bonaci <da...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > > A quick update: the vote within the Incubator has been started [1].
> > >
> > > Davor
> > >
> > > [1]
> > > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/a8e9cecfe93f0e464cc7c1774d2761
> > > ca14326df1101b7670ca8b1dc3@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E
> > >
> > > On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 11:40 AM, Davor Bonaci <da...@google.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > A quick update on the progress: the PPMC is nearly complete drafting
> > the
> > > > proposed resolution, and I've just kicked off the discussion within
> the
> > > > Incubator community [1].
> > > >
> > > > I'd encourage everyone to participate in the discussion and carry
> your
> > > > enthusiasm there. Thanks!
> > > >
> > > > Davor
> > > >
> > > > [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/b9c1071b355588468368145
> > 75ada3c
> > > > dca61c72dc1e672ab994a9c936@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 1:52 AM, Maximilian Michels <mx...@apache.org>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> +1
> > > >>
> > > >> I see a healthy project which deserves to graduate.
> > > >>
> > > >> On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 6:03 PM, Davor Bonaci <da...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> > > >> > Thanks everyone for the enthusiastic support!
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Please keep the thread going, as we kick off the process on
> private@
> > .
> > > >> > Please don’t forget to bring up any data points that might help
> > > >> strengthen
> > > >> > our case.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Thanks!
> > > >> >
> > > >> > On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 8:45 AM, Scott Wegner
> > > >> <sw...@google.com.invalid>
> > > >> > wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> >> +1 (beaming)
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 8:25 AM Robert Bradshaw
> > > >> >> <ro...@google.com.invalid>
> > > >> >> wrote:
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> +1
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 7:36 AM, Lukasz Cwik
> > > <lcwik@google.com.invalid
> > > >> >
> > > >> >> wrote:
> > > >> >> > +1
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 9:48 AM, Stephan Ewen <
> sewen@apache.org>
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> +1
> > > >> >> >> The community if doing very well and behaving very Apache
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 9:54 AM, Etienne Chauchot <
> > > >> echauchot@gmail.com>
> > > >> >> >> wrote:
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> > A big +1 of course, very excited to go forward
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> > Etienne
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> > Le 22/11/2016 à 19:19, Davor Bonaci a écrit :
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >> >> Hi everyone,
> > > >> >> >> >> With all the progress we’ve had recently in Apache Beam, I
> > > think
> > > >> it
> > > >> >> is
> > > >> >> >> >> time
> > > >> >> >> >> we start the discussion about graduation as a new top-level
> > > >> project
> > > >> >> at
> > > >> >> >> the
> > > >> >> >> >> Apache Software Foundation.
> > > >> >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> >> Graduation means we are a self-sustaining and
> self-governing
> > > >> >> community,
> > > >> >> >> >> and
> > > >> >> >> >> ready to be a full participant in the Apache Software
> > > >> Foundation. It
> > > >> >> >> does
> > > >> >> >> >> not imply that our community growth is complete or that a
> > > >> particular
> > > >> >> >> level
> > > >> >> >> >> of technical maturity has been reached, rather that we are
> > on a
> > > >> solid
> > > >> >> >> >> trajectory in those areas. After graduation, we will still
> > > >> >> periodically
> > > >> >> >> >> report to, and be overseen by, the ASF Board to ensure
> > > continued
> > > >> >> growth
> > > >> >> >> of
> > > >> >> >> >> a healthy community.
> > > >> >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> >> Graduation is an important milestone for the project. It is
> > > also
> > > >> key
> > > >> >> to
> > > >> >> >> >> further grow the user community: many users (incorrectly)
> see
> > > >> >> incubation
> > > >> >> >> >> as
> > > >> >> >> >> a sign of instability and are much less likely to consider
> us
> > > >> for a
> > > >> >> >> >> production use.
> > > >> >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> >> A way to think about graduation readiness is through the
> > Apache
> > > >> >> Maturity
> > > >> >> >> >> Model [1]. I think we clearly satisfy all the requirements
> > [2].
> > > >> It is
> > > >> >> >> >> probably worth emphasizing the recent community growth:
> over
> > > >> each of
> > > >> >> the
> > > >> >> >> >> past three months, no single organization contributing to
> > Beam
> > > >> has
> > > >> >> had
> > > >> >> >> >> more
> > > >> >> >> >> than ~50% of the unique contributors per month [2, see
> > > >> assumptions].
> > > >> >> >> >> That’s
> > > >> >> >> >> a great statistic that shows how much we’ve grown our
> > > diversity!
> > > >> >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> >> Process-wise, graduation consists of drafting a board
> > > resolution,
> > > >> >> which
> > > >> >> >> >> needs to identify the full Project Management Committee,
> and
> > > >> getting
> > > >> >> it
> > > >> >> >> >> approved by the community, the Incubator, and the Board.
> > Within
> > > >> the
> > > >> >> Beam
> > > >> >> >> >> community, most of these discussions and votes have to be
> on
> > > the
> > > >> >> >> private@
> > > >> >> >> >> mailing list, but, as usual, we’ll try to keep dev@
> updated
> > as
> > > >> much
> > > >> >> as
> > > >> >> >> >> possible.
> > > >> >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> >> With that in mind, let’s use this discussion on dev@ for
> two
> > > >> things:
> > > >> >> >> >> * Collect additional data points on our progress that we
> may
> > > >> want to
> > > >> >> >> >> present to the Incubator as a part of the proposal to
> accept
> > > our
> > > >> >> >> >> graduation.
> > > >> >> >> >> * Determine whether the community supports graduation.
> Please
> > > >> reply
> > > >> >> >> +1/-1
> > > >> >> >> >> with any additional comments, as appropriate. I’d encourage
> > > >> everyone
> > > >> >> to
> > > >> >> >> >> participate -- regardless whether you are an occasional
> > visitor
> > > >> or
> > > >> >> have
> > > >> >> >> a
> > > >> >> >> >> specific role in the project -- we’d love to hear your
> > > >> perspective.
> > > >> >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> >> Data points so far:
> > > >> >> >> >> * Project’s maturity self-assessment [2].
> > > >> >> >> >> * 1500 pull requests in incubation, which makes us one of
> the
> > > >> most
> > > >> >> >> active
> > > >> >> >> >> project across all of ASF on this metric.
> > > >> >> >> >> * 3 releases, each driven by a different release manager.
> > > >> >> >> >> * 120+ individual contributors.
> > > >> >> >> >> * 3 new committers added, 2 of which aren’t from the
> largest
> > > >> >> >> organization.
> > > >> >> >> >> * 1027 issues created, 515 resolved.
> > > >> >> >> >> * 442 dev@ emails in October alone, sent by 51
> individuals.
> > > >> >> >> >> * 50 user@ emails in the last 30 days, sent by 22
> > individuals.
> > > >> >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> >> Thanks!
> > > >> >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> >> Davor
> > > >> >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> >> [1] http://community.apache.org/apache-way/apache-project-
> > > >> >> >> >> maturity-model.html
> > > >> >> >> >> [2] http://beam.incubator.apache.
> > > org/contribute/maturity-model/
> > > >> >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> >>
> > > >> >> >> >
> > > >> >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Neelesh Srinivas Salian
> > Customer Operations Engineer
> >
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduation to a top-level project
Posted by Davor Bonaci <da...@apache.org>.
A quick update: the Apache Incubator has adopted the proposed graduation
resolution [1], and it is now presented to the ASF Board of Directors for
their consideration.
Davor
[1]
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/71a1c63837a7d1506a10af9c70af1c24db988451ac5b53fa2467b9b8@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E
On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 10:35 AM, Neelesh Salian <ns...@cloudera.com>
wrote:
> Quite an interesting discussion. Looking forward to the graduation. :)
> Thanks for putting this together.
>
> On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 10:30 AM, Davor Bonaci <da...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > A quick update: the vote within the Incubator has been started [1].
> >
> > Davor
> >
> > [1]
> > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/a8e9cecfe93f0e464cc7c1774d2761
> > ca14326df1101b7670ca8b1dc3@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 11:40 AM, Davor Bonaci <da...@google.com> wrote:
> >
> > > A quick update on the progress: the PPMC is nearly complete drafting
> the
> > > proposed resolution, and I've just kicked off the discussion within the
> > > Incubator community [1].
> > >
> > > I'd encourage everyone to participate in the discussion and carry your
> > > enthusiasm there. Thanks!
> > >
> > > Davor
> > >
> > > [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/b9c1071b355588468368145
> 75ada3c
> > > dca61c72dc1e672ab994a9c936@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E
> > >
> > > On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 1:52 AM, Maximilian Michels <mx...@apache.org>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> +1
> > >>
> > >> I see a healthy project which deserves to graduate.
> > >>
> > >> On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 6:03 PM, Davor Bonaci <da...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > >> > Thanks everyone for the enthusiastic support!
> > >> >
> > >> > Please keep the thread going, as we kick off the process on private@
> .
> > >> > Please don’t forget to bring up any data points that might help
> > >> strengthen
> > >> > our case.
> > >> >
> > >> > Thanks!
> > >> >
> > >> > On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 8:45 AM, Scott Wegner
> > >> <sw...@google.com.invalid>
> > >> > wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >> +1 (beaming)
> > >> >>
> > >> >> On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 8:25 AM Robert Bradshaw
> > >> >> <ro...@google.com.invalid>
> > >> >> wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> +1
> > >> >>
> > >> >> On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 7:36 AM, Lukasz Cwik
> > <lcwik@google.com.invalid
> > >> >
> > >> >> wrote:
> > >> >> > +1
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 9:48 AM, Stephan Ewen <se...@apache.org>
> > >> wrote:
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >> +1
> > >> >> >> The community if doing very well and behaving very Apache
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 9:54 AM, Etienne Chauchot <
> > >> echauchot@gmail.com>
> > >> >> >> wrote:
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> > A big +1 of course, very excited to go forward
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> > Etienne
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> > Le 22/11/2016 à 19:19, Davor Bonaci a écrit :
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> >> Hi everyone,
> > >> >> >> >> With all the progress we’ve had recently in Apache Beam, I
> > think
> > >> it
> > >> >> is
> > >> >> >> >> time
> > >> >> >> >> we start the discussion about graduation as a new top-level
> > >> project
> > >> >> at
> > >> >> >> the
> > >> >> >> >> Apache Software Foundation.
> > >> >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> >> Graduation means we are a self-sustaining and self-governing
> > >> >> community,
> > >> >> >> >> and
> > >> >> >> >> ready to be a full participant in the Apache Software
> > >> Foundation. It
> > >> >> >> does
> > >> >> >> >> not imply that our community growth is complete or that a
> > >> particular
> > >> >> >> level
> > >> >> >> >> of technical maturity has been reached, rather that we are
> on a
> > >> solid
> > >> >> >> >> trajectory in those areas. After graduation, we will still
> > >> >> periodically
> > >> >> >> >> report to, and be overseen by, the ASF Board to ensure
> > continued
> > >> >> growth
> > >> >> >> of
> > >> >> >> >> a healthy community.
> > >> >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> >> Graduation is an important milestone for the project. It is
> > also
> > >> key
> > >> >> to
> > >> >> >> >> further grow the user community: many users (incorrectly) see
> > >> >> incubation
> > >> >> >> >> as
> > >> >> >> >> a sign of instability and are much less likely to consider us
> > >> for a
> > >> >> >> >> production use.
> > >> >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> >> A way to think about graduation readiness is through the
> Apache
> > >> >> Maturity
> > >> >> >> >> Model [1]. I think we clearly satisfy all the requirements
> [2].
> > >> It is
> > >> >> >> >> probably worth emphasizing the recent community growth: over
> > >> each of
> > >> >> the
> > >> >> >> >> past three months, no single organization contributing to
> Beam
> > >> has
> > >> >> had
> > >> >> >> >> more
> > >> >> >> >> than ~50% of the unique contributors per month [2, see
> > >> assumptions].
> > >> >> >> >> That’s
> > >> >> >> >> a great statistic that shows how much we’ve grown our
> > diversity!
> > >> >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> >> Process-wise, graduation consists of drafting a board
> > resolution,
> > >> >> which
> > >> >> >> >> needs to identify the full Project Management Committee, and
> > >> getting
> > >> >> it
> > >> >> >> >> approved by the community, the Incubator, and the Board.
> Within
> > >> the
> > >> >> Beam
> > >> >> >> >> community, most of these discussions and votes have to be on
> > the
> > >> >> >> private@
> > >> >> >> >> mailing list, but, as usual, we’ll try to keep dev@ updated
> as
> > >> much
> > >> >> as
> > >> >> >> >> possible.
> > >> >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> >> With that in mind, let’s use this discussion on dev@ for two
> > >> things:
> > >> >> >> >> * Collect additional data points on our progress that we may
> > >> want to
> > >> >> >> >> present to the Incubator as a part of the proposal to accept
> > our
> > >> >> >> >> graduation.
> > >> >> >> >> * Determine whether the community supports graduation. Please
> > >> reply
> > >> >> >> +1/-1
> > >> >> >> >> with any additional comments, as appropriate. I’d encourage
> > >> everyone
> > >> >> to
> > >> >> >> >> participate -- regardless whether you are an occasional
> visitor
> > >> or
> > >> >> have
> > >> >> >> a
> > >> >> >> >> specific role in the project -- we’d love to hear your
> > >> perspective.
> > >> >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> >> Data points so far:
> > >> >> >> >> * Project’s maturity self-assessment [2].
> > >> >> >> >> * 1500 pull requests in incubation, which makes us one of the
> > >> most
> > >> >> >> active
> > >> >> >> >> project across all of ASF on this metric.
> > >> >> >> >> * 3 releases, each driven by a different release manager.
> > >> >> >> >> * 120+ individual contributors.
> > >> >> >> >> * 3 new committers added, 2 of which aren’t from the largest
> > >> >> >> organization.
> > >> >> >> >> * 1027 issues created, 515 resolved.
> > >> >> >> >> * 442 dev@ emails in October alone, sent by 51 individuals.
> > >> >> >> >> * 50 user@ emails in the last 30 days, sent by 22
> individuals.
> > >> >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> >> Thanks!
> > >> >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> >> Davor
> > >> >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> >> [1] http://community.apache.org/apache-way/apache-project-
> > >> >> >> >> maturity-model.html
> > >> >> >> >> [2] http://beam.incubator.apache.
> > org/contribute/maturity-model/
> > >> >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Neelesh Srinivas Salian
> Customer Operations Engineer
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduation to a top-level project
Posted by Neelesh Salian <ns...@cloudera.com>.
Quite an interesting discussion. Looking forward to the graduation. :)
Thanks for putting this together.
On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 10:30 AM, Davor Bonaci <da...@apache.org> wrote:
> A quick update: the vote within the Incubator has been started [1].
>
> Davor
>
> [1]
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/a8e9cecfe93f0e464cc7c1774d2761
> ca14326df1101b7670ca8b1dc3@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E
>
> On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 11:40 AM, Davor Bonaci <da...@google.com> wrote:
>
> > A quick update on the progress: the PPMC is nearly complete drafting the
> > proposed resolution, and I've just kicked off the discussion within the
> > Incubator community [1].
> >
> > I'd encourage everyone to participate in the discussion and carry your
> > enthusiasm there. Thanks!
> >
> > Davor
> >
> > [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/b9c1071b35558846836814575ada3c
> > dca61c72dc1e672ab994a9c936@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 1:52 AM, Maximilian Michels <mx...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> +1
> >>
> >> I see a healthy project which deserves to graduate.
> >>
> >> On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 6:03 PM, Davor Bonaci <da...@apache.org> wrote:
> >> > Thanks everyone for the enthusiastic support!
> >> >
> >> > Please keep the thread going, as we kick off the process on private@.
> >> > Please don’t forget to bring up any data points that might help
> >> strengthen
> >> > our case.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks!
> >> >
> >> > On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 8:45 AM, Scott Wegner
> >> <sw...@google.com.invalid>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> +1 (beaming)
> >> >>
> >> >> On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 8:25 AM Robert Bradshaw
> >> >> <ro...@google.com.invalid>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> +1
> >> >>
> >> >> On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 7:36 AM, Lukasz Cwik
> <lcwik@google.com.invalid
> >> >
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> > +1
> >> >> >
> >> >> > On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 9:48 AM, Stephan Ewen <se...@apache.org>
> >> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> +1
> >> >> >> The community if doing very well and behaving very Apache
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 9:54 AM, Etienne Chauchot <
> >> echauchot@gmail.com>
> >> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > A big +1 of course, very excited to go forward
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Etienne
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Le 22/11/2016 à 19:19, Davor Bonaci a écrit :
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> Hi everyone,
> >> >> >> >> With all the progress we’ve had recently in Apache Beam, I
> think
> >> it
> >> >> is
> >> >> >> >> time
> >> >> >> >> we start the discussion about graduation as a new top-level
> >> project
> >> >> at
> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> >> Apache Software Foundation.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Graduation means we are a self-sustaining and self-governing
> >> >> community,
> >> >> >> >> and
> >> >> >> >> ready to be a full participant in the Apache Software
> >> Foundation. It
> >> >> >> does
> >> >> >> >> not imply that our community growth is complete or that a
> >> particular
> >> >> >> level
> >> >> >> >> of technical maturity has been reached, rather that we are on a
> >> solid
> >> >> >> >> trajectory in those areas. After graduation, we will still
> >> >> periodically
> >> >> >> >> report to, and be overseen by, the ASF Board to ensure
> continued
> >> >> growth
> >> >> >> of
> >> >> >> >> a healthy community.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Graduation is an important milestone for the project. It is
> also
> >> key
> >> >> to
> >> >> >> >> further grow the user community: many users (incorrectly) see
> >> >> incubation
> >> >> >> >> as
> >> >> >> >> a sign of instability and are much less likely to consider us
> >> for a
> >> >> >> >> production use.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> A way to think about graduation readiness is through the Apache
> >> >> Maturity
> >> >> >> >> Model [1]. I think we clearly satisfy all the requirements [2].
> >> It is
> >> >> >> >> probably worth emphasizing the recent community growth: over
> >> each of
> >> >> the
> >> >> >> >> past three months, no single organization contributing to Beam
> >> has
> >> >> had
> >> >> >> >> more
> >> >> >> >> than ~50% of the unique contributors per month [2, see
> >> assumptions].
> >> >> >> >> That’s
> >> >> >> >> a great statistic that shows how much we’ve grown our
> diversity!
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Process-wise, graduation consists of drafting a board
> resolution,
> >> >> which
> >> >> >> >> needs to identify the full Project Management Committee, and
> >> getting
> >> >> it
> >> >> >> >> approved by the community, the Incubator, and the Board. Within
> >> the
> >> >> Beam
> >> >> >> >> community, most of these discussions and votes have to be on
> the
> >> >> >> private@
> >> >> >> >> mailing list, but, as usual, we’ll try to keep dev@ updated as
> >> much
> >> >> as
> >> >> >> >> possible.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> With that in mind, let’s use this discussion on dev@ for two
> >> things:
> >> >> >> >> * Collect additional data points on our progress that we may
> >> want to
> >> >> >> >> present to the Incubator as a part of the proposal to accept
> our
> >> >> >> >> graduation.
> >> >> >> >> * Determine whether the community supports graduation. Please
> >> reply
> >> >> >> +1/-1
> >> >> >> >> with any additional comments, as appropriate. I’d encourage
> >> everyone
> >> >> to
> >> >> >> >> participate -- regardless whether you are an occasional visitor
> >> or
> >> >> have
> >> >> >> a
> >> >> >> >> specific role in the project -- we’d love to hear your
> >> perspective.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Data points so far:
> >> >> >> >> * Project’s maturity self-assessment [2].
> >> >> >> >> * 1500 pull requests in incubation, which makes us one of the
> >> most
> >> >> >> active
> >> >> >> >> project across all of ASF on this metric.
> >> >> >> >> * 3 releases, each driven by a different release manager.
> >> >> >> >> * 120+ individual contributors.
> >> >> >> >> * 3 new committers added, 2 of which aren’t from the largest
> >> >> >> organization.
> >> >> >> >> * 1027 issues created, 515 resolved.
> >> >> >> >> * 442 dev@ emails in October alone, sent by 51 individuals.
> >> >> >> >> * 50 user@ emails in the last 30 days, sent by 22 individuals.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Thanks!
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> Davor
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> [1] http://community.apache.org/apache-way/apache-project-
> >> >> >> >> maturity-model.html
> >> >> >> >> [2] http://beam.incubator.apache.
> org/contribute/maturity-model/
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
--
Neelesh Srinivas Salian
Customer Operations Engineer
Re: [DISCUSS] Graduation to a top-level project
Posted by Davor Bonaci <da...@apache.org>.
A quick update: the vote within the Incubator has been started [1].
Davor
[1]
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/a8e9cecfe93f0e464cc7c1774d2761ca14326df1101b7670ca8b1dc3@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E
On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 11:40 AM, Davor Bonaci <da...@google.com> wrote:
> A quick update on the progress: the PPMC is nearly complete drafting the
> proposed resolution, and I've just kicked off the discussion within the
> Incubator community [1].
>
> I'd encourage everyone to participate in the discussion and carry your
> enthusiasm there. Thanks!
>
> Davor
>
> [1] https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/b9c1071b35558846836814575ada3c
> dca61c72dc1e672ab994a9c936@%3Cgeneral.incubator.apache.org%3E
>
> On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 1:52 AM, Maximilian Michels <mx...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
>> +1
>>
>> I see a healthy project which deserves to graduate.
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 6:03 PM, Davor Bonaci <da...@apache.org> wrote:
>> > Thanks everyone for the enthusiastic support!
>> >
>> > Please keep the thread going, as we kick off the process on private@.
>> > Please don’t forget to bring up any data points that might help
>> strengthen
>> > our case.
>> >
>> > Thanks!
>> >
>> > On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 8:45 AM, Scott Wegner
>> <sw...@google.com.invalid>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> +1 (beaming)
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 8:25 AM Robert Bradshaw
>> >> <ro...@google.com.invalid>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> +1
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 7:36 AM, Lukasz Cwik <lcwik@google.com.invalid
>> >
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > +1
>> >> >
>> >> > On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 9:48 AM, Stephan Ewen <se...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> +1
>> >> >> The community if doing very well and behaving very Apache
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 9:54 AM, Etienne Chauchot <
>> echauchot@gmail.com>
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > A big +1 of course, very excited to go forward
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Etienne
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Le 22/11/2016 à 19:19, Davor Bonaci a écrit :
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> Hi everyone,
>> >> >> >> With all the progress we’ve had recently in Apache Beam, I think
>> it
>> >> is
>> >> >> >> time
>> >> >> >> we start the discussion about graduation as a new top-level
>> project
>> >> at
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> >> Apache Software Foundation.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Graduation means we are a self-sustaining and self-governing
>> >> community,
>> >> >> >> and
>> >> >> >> ready to be a full participant in the Apache Software
>> Foundation. It
>> >> >> does
>> >> >> >> not imply that our community growth is complete or that a
>> particular
>> >> >> level
>> >> >> >> of technical maturity has been reached, rather that we are on a
>> solid
>> >> >> >> trajectory in those areas. After graduation, we will still
>> >> periodically
>> >> >> >> report to, and be overseen by, the ASF Board to ensure continued
>> >> growth
>> >> >> of
>> >> >> >> a healthy community.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Graduation is an important milestone for the project. It is also
>> key
>> >> to
>> >> >> >> further grow the user community: many users (incorrectly) see
>> >> incubation
>> >> >> >> as
>> >> >> >> a sign of instability and are much less likely to consider us
>> for a
>> >> >> >> production use.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> A way to think about graduation readiness is through the Apache
>> >> Maturity
>> >> >> >> Model [1]. I think we clearly satisfy all the requirements [2].
>> It is
>> >> >> >> probably worth emphasizing the recent community growth: over
>> each of
>> >> the
>> >> >> >> past three months, no single organization contributing to Beam
>> has
>> >> had
>> >> >> >> more
>> >> >> >> than ~50% of the unique contributors per month [2, see
>> assumptions].
>> >> >> >> That’s
>> >> >> >> a great statistic that shows how much we’ve grown our diversity!
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Process-wise, graduation consists of drafting a board resolution,
>> >> which
>> >> >> >> needs to identify the full Project Management Committee, and
>> getting
>> >> it
>> >> >> >> approved by the community, the Incubator, and the Board. Within
>> the
>> >> Beam
>> >> >> >> community, most of these discussions and votes have to be on the
>> >> >> private@
>> >> >> >> mailing list, but, as usual, we’ll try to keep dev@ updated as
>> much
>> >> as
>> >> >> >> possible.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> With that in mind, let’s use this discussion on dev@ for two
>> things:
>> >> >> >> * Collect additional data points on our progress that we may
>> want to
>> >> >> >> present to the Incubator as a part of the proposal to accept our
>> >> >> >> graduation.
>> >> >> >> * Determine whether the community supports graduation. Please
>> reply
>> >> >> +1/-1
>> >> >> >> with any additional comments, as appropriate. I’d encourage
>> everyone
>> >> to
>> >> >> >> participate -- regardless whether you are an occasional visitor
>> or
>> >> have
>> >> >> a
>> >> >> >> specific role in the project -- we’d love to hear your
>> perspective.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Data points so far:
>> >> >> >> * Project’s maturity self-assessment [2].
>> >> >> >> * 1500 pull requests in incubation, which makes us one of the
>> most
>> >> >> active
>> >> >> >> project across all of ASF on this metric.
>> >> >> >> * 3 releases, each driven by a different release manager.
>> >> >> >> * 120+ individual contributors.
>> >> >> >> * 3 new committers added, 2 of which aren’t from the largest
>> >> >> organization.
>> >> >> >> * 1027 issues created, 515 resolved.
>> >> >> >> * 442 dev@ emails in October alone, sent by 51 individuals.
>> >> >> >> * 50 user@ emails in the last 30 days, sent by 22 individuals.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Thanks!
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Davor
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> [1] http://community.apache.org/apache-way/apache-project-
>> >> >> >> maturity-model.html
>> >> >> >> [2] http://beam.incubator.apache.org/contribute/maturity-model/
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >>
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