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[GitHub] [netbeans-website] matthiasblaesing opened a new pull request #473: Move dev uc to 12.0
matthiasblaesing opened a new pull request #473:
URL: https://github.com/apache/netbeans-website/pull/473
I noticed, that the backends for updatecenter redirects for dev still point to 11.3. Given, that 12.0 is about to be released and from my perspective netbeans dev should pair with the newest plugins, I suggest to switch the update center urls over.
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[GitHub] [netbeans-website] neilcsmith-net commented on pull request #473: Move dev uc to 12.0
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neilcsmith-net commented on pull request #473:
URL: https://github.com/apache/netbeans-website/pull/473#issuecomment-636335352
My question is also why this wasn't picked up more with 12.0 betas? Should perhaps be something specifically in NetCAT?
But yes, there's a problem that DEV redirects have ended up being behind the release branch. That's not necessarily a new problem, but one I agree we should ensure doesn't occur in future.
I moved the discussion bit onto mailing list anyway. I would still prefer this redirected to `https://plugins.netbeans.apache.org/data/dev/` at some point soon (pending that existing obviously?!)
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[GitHub] [netbeans-website] matthiasblaesing commented on pull request #473: Move dev uc to 12.0
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matthiasblaesing commented on pull request #473:
URL: https://github.com/apache/netbeans-website/pull/473#issuecomment-636333987
Ok - with the updated PR this only deals with the plugin center for external plugins (aka plugin portal). The plugin portal is linked to via the urls:
https://plugins.netbeans.apache.org/data/VERSION/catalog.xml
These are just redirects to the implementation on the netbeans-vm. The mapping before this PR:
| Version | Pluginportal |
| -------- | ------------- |
| 11.1 | PP2 (http://plugins.netbeans.org/) |
| 11.2 | PP2 (http://plugins.netbeans.org/) |
| 11.3 | PP2 (http://plugins.netbeans.org/) |
| 12.0 | PP3 (https://plugins.netbeans.apache.org/) |
| DEV | PP2 (http://plugins.netbeans.org/) |
My surprise/concern is only DEV. My thinking was, that DEV should spearhead all changes and in this case 12.0 was switched to PP3 _before_ DEV. Now that we are preparing the release of 12.0 we see, that PP3 did not get enough testing as plugins currently can't be installed from portal. This PR just moves the matrix above to:
| Version | Pluginportal |
| -------- | ------------- |
| 11.1 | PP2 (http://plugins.netbeans.org/) |
| 11.2 | PP2 (http://plugins.netbeans.org/) |
| 11.3 | PP2 (http://plugins.netbeans.org/) |
| 12.0 | PP3 (https://plugins.netbeans.apache.org/) |
| DEV | PP3 (https://plugins.netbeans.apache.org/) |
For the fixes of PP3 this is not really needed, in fact we should wait with merging of this PR until the fixes from https://github.com/apache/netbeans-tools/pull/31 are put into production.
I hope that clears this a bit.
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[GitHub] [netbeans-website] matthiasblaesing merged pull request #473: Move dev uc to 12.0
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matthiasblaesing merged pull request #473:
URL: https://github.com/apache/netbeans-website/pull/473
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[GitHub] [netbeans-website] neilcsmith-net commented on a change in pull request #473: Move dev uc to 12.0
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neilcsmith-net commented on a change in pull request #473:
URL: https://github.com/apache/netbeans-website/pull/473#discussion_r429872976
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File path: netbeans.apache.org/src/content/.htaccess
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@@ -13,8 +13,8 @@ Redirect 302 /nb/updates/11.3/ https://netbeans-vm.apache.org/uc/11.3/
Redirect 302 /nb/plugins/11.3/ https://netbeans-vm.apache.org/pluginportal2/updates/11.0/
Redirect 302 /nb/updates/12.0/ https://netbeans-vm.apache.org/uc/12.0/
Redirect 302 /nb/plugins/12.0/ https://plugins.netbeans.apache.org/data/12.0/
-Redirect 302 /nb/updates/dev/ https://netbeans-vm.apache.org/uc/11.3/
-Redirect 302 /nb/plugins/dev/ https://netbeans-vm.apache.org/pluginportal2/updates/11.0/
+Redirect 302 /nb/updates/dev/ https://netbeans-vm.apache.org/uc/12.0/
Review comment:
Updating the plugin centre for dev makes sense. Up until I think 11.3 the update centre didn't exist until release, so was always the previous release - now it points to latest Jenkins build for release branch.
So, we might want to set this up to actually be a redirect to `https://netbeans-vm.apache.org/uc/dev/` and then set that up to wherever makes most sense - ideally in the longer term a UC based on master head, which was how it used to work pre-Apache?
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[GitHub] [netbeans-website] vieiro commented on a change in pull request #473: Move dev uc to 12.0
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vieiro commented on a change in pull request #473:
URL: https://github.com/apache/netbeans-website/pull/473#discussion_r430013474
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File path: netbeans.apache.org/src/content/.htaccess
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@@ -13,8 +13,8 @@ Redirect 302 /nb/updates/11.3/ https://netbeans-vm.apache.org/uc/11.3/
Redirect 302 /nb/plugins/11.3/ https://netbeans-vm.apache.org/pluginportal2/updates/11.0/
Redirect 302 /nb/updates/12.0/ https://netbeans-vm.apache.org/uc/12.0/
Redirect 302 /nb/plugins/12.0/ https://plugins.netbeans.apache.org/data/12.0/
-Redirect 302 /nb/updates/dev/ https://netbeans-vm.apache.org/uc/11.3/
-Redirect 302 /nb/plugins/dev/ https://netbeans-vm.apache.org/pluginportal2/updates/11.0/
+Redirect 302 /nb/updates/dev/ https://netbeans-vm.apache.org/uc/12.0/
Review comment:
Mmm.... infra will complain if we use jenkins builds as an update center. Also note this is extremely slow...
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[GitHub] [netbeans-website] matthiasblaesing commented on pull request #473: Move dev uc to 12.0
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matthiasblaesing commented on pull request #473:
URL: https://github.com/apache/netbeans-website/pull/473#issuecomment-635604781
I did not want to create a big discussion. We currently see the fallout of an untested PP3, which was untested because DEV was not moved, so I reduced this PR to the PP3 switchover. I think we were in agreement, that PP2 will not be suitable for NB12, so we should switch _now_.
Ok?
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[GitHub] [netbeans-website] matthiasblaesing commented on pull request #473: Move dev uc to 12.0
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matthiasblaesing commented on pull request #473:
URL: https://github.com/apache/netbeans-website/pull/473#issuecomment-636234955
@neilcsmith-net all good - I was just mistaken about this being a no-brainer. The points raised here were valid. I'll wait with merging this until the fix for the recent problems is deployed. I see no gain from moving from a not optimal situation to a worse situation.
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[GitHub] [netbeans-website] neilcsmith-net commented on pull request #473: Move dev uc to 12.0
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neilcsmith-net commented on pull request #473:
URL: https://github.com/apache/netbeans-website/pull/473#issuecomment-636303412
@vieiro nothing release specific here, so although review from @ebarboni be good, if @matthiasblaesing needs this for testing anything for PP3 fixes(?) then don't see an issue with merging sooner.
I'll open a thread on dev@ to follow up discussion above.
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[GitHub] [netbeans-website] matthiasblaesing commented on pull request #473: Move dev uc to 12.0
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matthiasblaesing commented on pull request #473:
URL: https://github.com/apache/netbeans-website/pull/473#issuecomment-641525692
12.0 is out, PP3 is tested to be functional.
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[GitHub] [netbeans-website] vieiro commented on pull request #473: Move dev uc to 12.0
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vieiro commented on pull request #473:
URL: https://github.com/apache/netbeans-website/pull/473#issuecomment-636309836
@neilcsmith-net Ah, I thought this to be 12.0 specific.
If @ebarboni review is not required then let's merge this and full speed ahead!
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[GitHub] [netbeans-website] neilcsmith-net commented on pull request #473: Move dev uc to 12.0
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neilcsmith-net commented on pull request #473:
URL: https://github.com/apache/netbeans-website/pull/473#issuecomment-633650948
As commented inline, the bandwidth on Jenkins of doing what I suggested is probably minimal compared to the fact people download the entire beta binaries from there now?! And managing this on the NetBeans VM is the key bit, it doesn't have to redirect there.
Ideally at some point we could end up with -
```
Redirect 302 /nb/updates/ https://netbeans-vm.apache.org/uc/
Redirect 302 /nb/plugins/ https://plugins.netbeans.apache.org/data/
```
That would require having `https://plugins.netbeans.apache.org/data/dev/` - @jkovalsky thoughts on that?
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[GitHub] [netbeans-website] vieiro commented on pull request #473: Move dev uc to 12.0
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vieiro commented on pull request #473:
URL: https://github.com/apache/netbeans-website/pull/473#issuecomment-633646591
I think everything is ok, but using jenkins builds for update centers is going to bring trouble with Infra, as we'll be consuming bandwidth required for builds.
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[GitHub] [netbeans-website] neilcsmith-net commented on pull request #473: Move dev uc to 12.0
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neilcsmith-net commented on pull request #473:
URL: https://github.com/apache/netbeans-website/pull/473#issuecomment-635608849
+1. I'd like to see us have dev specific UC and plugin redirects in future, but agree with importance of this for now.
Sorry for discussion, but there was a plan in place with all this.
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[GitHub] [netbeans-website] matthiasblaesing commented on pull request #473: Move dev uc to 12.0
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matthiasblaesing commented on pull request #473:
URL: https://github.com/apache/netbeans-website/pull/473#issuecomment-636310080
Do not merge this yet. I'll explain later, but it does not affect 12.0.
Am 30. Mai 2020 12:14:22 MESZ schrieb Antonio Vieiro <no...@github.com>:
>@neilcsmith-net Ah, I thought this to be 12.0 specific.
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>If @ebarboni review is not required then let's merge this and full
>speed ahead!
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[GitHub] [netbeans-website] neilcsmith-net commented on a change in pull request #473: Move dev uc to 12.0
Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
neilcsmith-net commented on a change in pull request #473:
URL: https://github.com/apache/netbeans-website/pull/473#discussion_r430014697
##########
File path: netbeans.apache.org/src/content/.htaccess
##########
@@ -13,8 +13,8 @@ Redirect 302 /nb/updates/11.3/ https://netbeans-vm.apache.org/uc/11.3/
Redirect 302 /nb/plugins/11.3/ https://netbeans-vm.apache.org/pluginportal2/updates/11.0/
Redirect 302 /nb/updates/12.0/ https://netbeans-vm.apache.org/uc/12.0/
Redirect 302 /nb/plugins/12.0/ https://plugins.netbeans.apache.org/data/12.0/
-Redirect 302 /nb/updates/dev/ https://netbeans-vm.apache.org/uc/11.3/
-Redirect 302 /nb/plugins/dev/ https://netbeans-vm.apache.org/pluginportal2/updates/11.0/
+Redirect 302 /nb/updates/dev/ https://netbeans-vm.apache.org/uc/12.0/
Review comment:
@vieiro we already are for the betas since 11.3. Before that we used the previous release, which wasn't ideal. Aside from the catalog file, this will actually use minimal bandwidth only when a spec version is increased - almost nothing compared to the fact we get people to download the betas directly from Jenkins now.
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