[VMWARE] Can 1 VSphere cluster - be managed by 2 CS hosts

["Musayev, Ilya" <im...@webmd.net>]

Would you know if I can have 1 VSphere cluster - be managed by 2 CS hosts - this is strictly for QA tests - not prod.

Thank you
-ilya

Re: [VMWARE] Can 1 VSphere cluster - be managed by 2 CS hosts

[Ahmad Emneina <ae...@gmail.com>]

i doubt this would work. each cloudstack injects the system template with
its keys. the keys are there for the management server to program said
system vm.... are you following me?


On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 2:26 PM, Musayev, Ilya <im...@webmd.net> wrote:

> Correct, there is no deep integration like agent, however it creates
> system VMs and storage pool and I'm not certain if it find them as
> conflicting..
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Kelcey Damage (BT) [mailto:kelcey@backbonetechnology.com]
> > Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 5:17 PM
> > To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
> > Subject: RE: [VMWARE] Can 1 VSphere cluster - be managed by 2 CS hosts
> >
> > I guess it's a trick question, because there is no agent for vmware. I
> would
> > say you can connect the vcenter to both management servers, it all
> depends
> > if any data is stored in the vcenter database. I thought CloudStack sits
> atop
> > vmware rather than any kind of deep integration.
> >
> >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: Musayev, Ilya [mailto:imusayev@webmd.net]
> > >Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 2:15 PM
> > >To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
> > >Subject: RE: [VMWARE] Can 1 VSphere cluster - be managed by 2 CS hosts
> > >
> > >Yes I have 1 vcenter with 3 vsphere servers dedicated for cloudstack.
> > >
> > >I want to use 2 CloudStack management servers (4.0 and 4.1) on the same
> > >cluster.
> > >
> > >
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: Kelcey Damage (BT) [mailto:kelcey@backbonetechnology.com]
> > >> Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 4:42 PM
> > >> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
> > >> Subject: RE: [VMWARE] Can 1 VSphere cluster - be managed by 2 CS
> > >> hosts
> > >>
> > >> I thought with CS we still needed vcenter, which would make the
> > >> answer a no.
> > >>
> > >> But by CS hosts do you mean management servers?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> >-----Original Message-----
> > >> >From: Musayev, Ilya [mailto:imusayev@webmd.net]
> > >> >Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 1:36 PM
> > >> >To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
> > >> >Subject: [VMWARE] Can 1 VSphere cluster - be managed by 2 CS hosts
> > >> >
> > >> >Would you know if I can have 1 VSphere cluster - be managed by 2 CS
> > >> >hosts - this is strictly for QA tests - not prod.
> > >> >
> > >> >Thank you
> > >> >-ilya
> > >>
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
>

Re: [VMWARE] Can 1 VSphere cluster - be managed by 2 CS hosts

["Musayev, Ilya" <im...@webmd.net>]

Kelven,

Thanks for your response.. definitely will give it a shot on monday.

Much appreciated

Regards
Ilya



-------- Original message --------
From: Kelven Yang <ke...@citrix.com>
Date:
To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: [VMWARE] Can 1 VSphere cluster - be managed by 2 CS hosts


You may be able to do it by utilizing CloudStack management server
"instance" concept. However, do it at your own risk though. You may try
following

1) Planning your IP address allocation, make sure two set of IP addresses
spaces are separated
2) For each CloudStack installation, for example, 4.0 and 4.1, configure
global configuration variable "instance.name", give them distinct names
3) Separate your storages, for example, each MS installation has its own
secondary storage

Kelven


On 3/15/13 2:31 PM, "Kelcey Damage (BT)" <ke...@backbonetechnology.com>
wrote:

>I honestly think it could work, but your resource reporting in CS might be
>off
>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Musayev, Ilya [mailto:imusayev@webmd.net]
>>Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 2:27 PM
>>To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
>>Subject: RE: [VMWARE] Can 1 VSphere cluster - be managed by 2 CS hosts
>>
>>Correct, there is no deep integration like agent, however it creates
>>system
>VMs
>>and storage pool and I'm not certain if it find them as conflicting..
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Kelcey Damage (BT) [mailto:kelcey@backbonetechnology.com]
>>> Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 5:17 PM
>>> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
>>> Subject: RE: [VMWARE] Can 1 VSphere cluster - be managed by 2 CS hosts
>>>
>>> I guess it's a trick question, because there is no agent for vmware. I
>>> would say you can connect the vcenter to both management servers, it
>>> all depends if any data is stored in the vcenter database. I thought
>>> CloudStack sits atop vmware rather than any kind of deep integration.
>>>
>>>
>>> >-----Original Message-----
>>> >From: Musayev, Ilya [mailto:imusayev@webmd.net]
>>> >Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 2:15 PM
>>> >To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
>>> >Subject: RE: [VMWARE] Can 1 VSphere cluster - be managed by 2 CS
>>> >hosts
>>> >
>>> >Yes I have 1 vcenter with 3 vsphere servers dedicated for cloudstack.
>>> >
>>> >I want to use 2 CloudStack management servers (4.0 and 4.1) on the
>>> >same cluster.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >> -----Original Message-----
>>> >> From: Kelcey Damage (BT) [mailto:kelcey@backbonetechnology.com]
>>> >> Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 4:42 PM
>>> >> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
>>> >> Subject: RE: [VMWARE] Can 1 VSphere cluster - be managed by 2 CS
>>> >> hosts
>>> >>
>>> >> I thought with CS we still needed vcenter, which would make the
>>> >> answer a no.
>>> >>
>>> >> But by CS hosts do you mean management servers?
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> >-----Original Message-----
>>> >> >From: Musayev, Ilya [mailto:imusayev@webmd.net]
>>> >> >Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 1:36 PM
>>> >> >To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
>>> >> >Subject: [VMWARE] Can 1 VSphere cluster - be managed by 2 CS hosts
>>> >> >
>>> >> >Would you know if I can have 1 VSphere cluster - be managed by 2
>>> >> >CS hosts - this is strictly for QA tests - not prod.
>>> >> >
>>> >> >Thank you
>>> >> >-ilya
>>> >>
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

Re: [VMWARE] Can 1 VSphere cluster - be managed by 2 CS hosts

[Kelven Yang <ke...@citrix.com>]

You may be able to do it by utilizing CloudStack management server
"instance" concept. However, do it at your own risk though. You may try
following

1) Planning your IP address allocation, make sure two set of IP addresses
spaces are separated
2) For each CloudStack installation, for example, 4.0 and 4.1, configure
global configuration variable "instance.name", give them distinct names
3) Separate your storages, for example, each MS installation has its own
secondary storage

Kelven


On 3/15/13 2:31 PM, "Kelcey Damage (BT)" <ke...@backbonetechnology.com>
wrote:

>I honestly think it could work, but your resource reporting in CS might be
>off
>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Musayev, Ilya [mailto:imusayev@webmd.net]
>>Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 2:27 PM
>>To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
>>Subject: RE: [VMWARE] Can 1 VSphere cluster - be managed by 2 CS hosts
>>
>>Correct, there is no deep integration like agent, however it creates
>>system
>VMs
>>and storage pool and I'm not certain if it find them as conflicting..
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Kelcey Damage (BT) [mailto:kelcey@backbonetechnology.com]
>>> Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 5:17 PM
>>> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
>>> Subject: RE: [VMWARE] Can 1 VSphere cluster - be managed by 2 CS hosts
>>>
>>> I guess it's a trick question, because there is no agent for vmware. I
>>> would say you can connect the vcenter to both management servers, it
>>> all depends if any data is stored in the vcenter database. I thought
>>> CloudStack sits atop vmware rather than any kind of deep integration.
>>>
>>>
>>> >-----Original Message-----
>>> >From: Musayev, Ilya [mailto:imusayev@webmd.net]
>>> >Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 2:15 PM
>>> >To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
>>> >Subject: RE: [VMWARE] Can 1 VSphere cluster - be managed by 2 CS
>>> >hosts
>>> >
>>> >Yes I have 1 vcenter with 3 vsphere servers dedicated for cloudstack.
>>> >
>>> >I want to use 2 CloudStack management servers (4.0 and 4.1) on the
>>> >same cluster.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >> -----Original Message-----
>>> >> From: Kelcey Damage (BT) [mailto:kelcey@backbonetechnology.com]
>>> >> Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 4:42 PM
>>> >> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
>>> >> Subject: RE: [VMWARE] Can 1 VSphere cluster - be managed by 2 CS
>>> >> hosts
>>> >>
>>> >> I thought with CS we still needed vcenter, which would make the
>>> >> answer a no.
>>> >>
>>> >> But by CS hosts do you mean management servers?
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> >-----Original Message-----
>>> >> >From: Musayev, Ilya [mailto:imusayev@webmd.net]
>>> >> >Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 1:36 PM
>>> >> >To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
>>> >> >Subject: [VMWARE] Can 1 VSphere cluster - be managed by 2 CS hosts
>>> >> >
>>> >> >Would you know if I can have 1 VSphere cluster - be managed by 2
>>> >> >CS hosts - this is strictly for QA tests - not prod.
>>> >> >
>>> >> >Thank you
>>> >> >-ilya
>>> >>
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

RE: [VMWARE] Can 1 VSphere cluster - be managed by 2 CS hosts

["Kelcey Damage (BT)" <ke...@backbonetechnology.com>]

I honestly think it could work, but your resource reporting in CS might be
off


>-----Original Message-----
>From: Musayev, Ilya [mailto:imusayev@webmd.net]
>Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 2:27 PM
>To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
>Subject: RE: [VMWARE] Can 1 VSphere cluster - be managed by 2 CS hosts
>
>Correct, there is no deep integration like agent, however it creates system
VMs
>and storage pool and I'm not certain if it find them as conflicting..
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Kelcey Damage (BT) [mailto:kelcey@backbonetechnology.com]
>> Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 5:17 PM
>> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
>> Subject: RE: [VMWARE] Can 1 VSphere cluster - be managed by 2 CS hosts
>>
>> I guess it's a trick question, because there is no agent for vmware. I
>> would say you can connect the vcenter to both management servers, it
>> all depends if any data is stored in the vcenter database. I thought
>> CloudStack sits atop vmware rather than any kind of deep integration.
>>
>>
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >From: Musayev, Ilya [mailto:imusayev@webmd.net]
>> >Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 2:15 PM
>> >To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
>> >Subject: RE: [VMWARE] Can 1 VSphere cluster - be managed by 2 CS
>> >hosts
>> >
>> >Yes I have 1 vcenter with 3 vsphere servers dedicated for cloudstack.
>> >
>> >I want to use 2 CloudStack management servers (4.0 and 4.1) on the
>> >same cluster.
>> >
>> >
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: Kelcey Damage (BT) [mailto:kelcey@backbonetechnology.com]
>> >> Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 4:42 PM
>> >> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
>> >> Subject: RE: [VMWARE] Can 1 VSphere cluster - be managed by 2 CS
>> >> hosts
>> >>
>> >> I thought with CS we still needed vcenter, which would make the
>> >> answer a no.
>> >>
>> >> But by CS hosts do you mean management servers?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> >-----Original Message-----
>> >> >From: Musayev, Ilya [mailto:imusayev@webmd.net]
>> >> >Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 1:36 PM
>> >> >To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
>> >> >Subject: [VMWARE] Can 1 VSphere cluster - be managed by 2 CS hosts
>> >> >
>> >> >Would you know if I can have 1 VSphere cluster - be managed by 2
>> >> >CS hosts - this is strictly for QA tests - not prod.
>> >> >
>> >> >Thank you
>> >> >-ilya
>> >>
>> >
>>
>>
>

RE: [VMWARE] Can 1 VSphere cluster - be managed by 2 CS hosts

["Musayev, Ilya" <im...@webmd.net>]

Correct, there is no deep integration like agent, however it creates system VMs and storage pool and I'm not certain if it find them as conflicting..

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kelcey Damage (BT) [mailto:kelcey@backbonetechnology.com]
> Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 5:17 PM
> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: RE: [VMWARE] Can 1 VSphere cluster - be managed by 2 CS hosts
> 
> I guess it's a trick question, because there is no agent for vmware. I would
> say you can connect the vcenter to both management servers, it all depends
> if any data is stored in the vcenter database. I thought CloudStack sits atop
> vmware rather than any kind of deep integration.
> 
> 
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Musayev, Ilya [mailto:imusayev@webmd.net]
> >Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 2:15 PM
> >To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
> >Subject: RE: [VMWARE] Can 1 VSphere cluster - be managed by 2 CS hosts
> >
> >Yes I have 1 vcenter with 3 vsphere servers dedicated for cloudstack.
> >
> >I want to use 2 CloudStack management servers (4.0 and 4.1) on the same
> >cluster.
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Kelcey Damage (BT) [mailto:kelcey@backbonetechnology.com]
> >> Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 4:42 PM
> >> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
> >> Subject: RE: [VMWARE] Can 1 VSphere cluster - be managed by 2 CS
> >> hosts
> >>
> >> I thought with CS we still needed vcenter, which would make the
> >> answer a no.
> >>
> >> But by CS hosts do you mean management servers?
> >>
> >>
> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >From: Musayev, Ilya [mailto:imusayev@webmd.net]
> >> >Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 1:36 PM
> >> >To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
> >> >Subject: [VMWARE] Can 1 VSphere cluster - be managed by 2 CS hosts
> >> >
> >> >Would you know if I can have 1 VSphere cluster - be managed by 2 CS
> >> >hosts - this is strictly for QA tests - not prod.
> >> >
> >> >Thank you
> >> >-ilya
> >>
> >
> 
> 

RE: [VMWARE] Can 1 VSphere cluster - be managed by 2 CS hosts

["Kelcey Damage (BT)" <ke...@backbonetechnology.com>]

I guess it's a trick question, because there is no agent for vmware. I would
say you can connect the vcenter to both management servers, it all depends
if any data is stored in the vcenter database. I thought CloudStack sits
atop vmware rather than any kind of deep integration.


>-----Original Message-----
>From: Musayev, Ilya [mailto:imusayev@webmd.net]
>Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 2:15 PM
>To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
>Subject: RE: [VMWARE] Can 1 VSphere cluster - be managed by 2 CS hosts
>
>Yes I have 1 vcenter with 3 vsphere servers dedicated for cloudstack.
>
>I want to use 2 CloudStack management servers (4.0 and 4.1) on the same
>cluster.
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Kelcey Damage (BT) [mailto:kelcey@backbonetechnology.com]
>> Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 4:42 PM
>> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
>> Subject: RE: [VMWARE] Can 1 VSphere cluster - be managed by 2 CS hosts
>>
>> I thought with CS we still needed vcenter, which would make the answer
>> a no.
>>
>> But by CS hosts do you mean management servers?
>>
>>
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >From: Musayev, Ilya [mailto:imusayev@webmd.net]
>> >Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 1:36 PM
>> >To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
>> >Subject: [VMWARE] Can 1 VSphere cluster - be managed by 2 CS hosts
>> >
>> >Would you know if I can have 1 VSphere cluster - be managed by 2 CS
>> >hosts - this is strictly for QA tests - not prod.
>> >
>> >Thank you
>> >-ilya
>>
>

RE: [VMWARE] Can 1 VSphere cluster - be managed by 2 CS hosts

["Musayev, Ilya" <im...@webmd.net>]

Yes I have 1 vcenter with 3 vsphere servers dedicated for cloudstack.

I want to use 2 CloudStack management servers (4.0 and 4.1) on the same cluster.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kelcey Damage (BT) [mailto:kelcey@backbonetechnology.com]
> Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 4:42 PM
> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: RE: [VMWARE] Can 1 VSphere cluster - be managed by 2 CS hosts
> 
> I thought with CS we still needed vcenter, which would make the answer a
> no.
> 
> But by CS hosts do you mean management servers?
> 
> 
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Musayev, Ilya [mailto:imusayev@webmd.net]
> >Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 1:36 PM
> >To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
> >Subject: [VMWARE] Can 1 VSphere cluster - be managed by 2 CS hosts
> >
> >Would you know if I can have 1 VSphere cluster - be managed by 2 CS
> >hosts - this is strictly for QA tests - not prod.
> >
> >Thank you
> >-ilya
> 

RE: [VMWARE] Can 1 VSphere cluster - be managed by 2 CS hosts

["Kelcey Damage (BT)" <ke...@backbonetechnology.com>]

I thought with CS we still needed vcenter, which would make the answer a no.

But by CS hosts do you mean management servers?


>-----Original Message-----
>From: Musayev, Ilya [mailto:imusayev@webmd.net]
>Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 1:36 PM
>To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
>Subject: [VMWARE] Can 1 VSphere cluster - be managed by 2 CS hosts
>
>Would you know if I can have 1 VSphere cluster - be managed by 2 CS hosts -
>this is strictly for QA tests - not prod.
>
>Thank you
>-ilya