Subsonic Opinion

["Nguyen, Tom" <To...@rels.info>]

Hi everyone,

 

  I just saw several webcasts of a new framework called Subsonic and
want to bring it to attention to the community to get everyone opinions.
http://www.subsonicproject.com <http://www.subsonicproject.com/>   Have
you used it?  What do you think?  Is there anything else similar or
better?

 

Personally, from what I've seen, I think it looks pretty cool.  I've
been using Ibatis.Net for a while and I love it.  But even with the help
of codesmith, I find myself doing a lot of manual generating and coding
to do prototyping works.  I find that after prototyping, I am usually
rushed to finish the project or it gets hand off to another developer.
I might as well start it correctly because if I prototype it badly, not
only does it look bad for me, but it also cause delay in releasing to
the client.  In my current job, the clients always get what they want.
This is why Subsonic peek my interests.

 

Thanks,


Tom Nguyen, MCSD.NET
Build and Configuration Engineer
tom.nguyen@rels.info <ma...@rels.info> 

 


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RE: Subsonic Opinion

["Clough, Samuel (USPC.PRG.Atlanta)" <Sa...@princetonrg.com>]

A pretty decent developer that contracted here used it and really liked
it.  In case you're not aware, it's an attempt to bring a Railsish
active record type implementation (I say Railsish because Rail's active
record really depends on a lot of Ruby language features) to a .NET
environment.  I really like the looks of it.  A blog was recently
complaining about it creating very inefficient SQL, but I couldn't tell
if the SQL Subsonic was generating was the problem or if the developer's
app and data model were.

 

I definitely think the project is worth watching for straightforward
CRUD type apps, although I haven't personally used it.  Something like
this is sorely needed in .NET (Yes, I love the ruby/rails kool-aid)  I
see iBatis as valuable for more "enterpisey" apps where things are being
done beyond fairly straightforward data model manipulation, but have
used it because I find all of MS's approaches (including LINQ) pretty
lacking.  In .NET, data manipulation and domain models seem to be either
very manual, or very drag and drop (which is offensive to my desire for
sound design.)  Things like Subsonic seem to be a more sane approach in
that it is rapid development but not spaghetti code, with tools like
iBatis also serving a vital role where the app is more complex and the
SQL is very important.

 

Just my .02.

 

From: Nguyen, Tom [mailto:Tom.Nguyen@rels.info] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 2:25 PM
To: user-cs@ibatis.apache.org
Subject: Subsonic Opinion

 

Hi everyone,

 

  I just saw several webcasts of a new framework called Subsonic and
want to bring it to attention to the community to get everyone opinions.
http://www.subsonicproject.com <http://www.subsonicproject.com/>   Have
you used it?  What do you think?  Is there anything else similar or
better?

 

Personally, from what I've seen, I think it looks pretty cool.  I've
been using Ibatis.Net for a while and I love it.  But even with the help
of codesmith, I find myself doing a lot of manual generating and coding
to do prototyping works.  I find that after prototyping, I am usually
rushed to finish the project or it gets hand off to another developer.
I might as well start it correctly because if I prototype it badly, not
only does it look bad for me, but it also cause delay in releasing to
the client.  In my current job, the clients always get what they want.
This is why Subsonic peek my interests.

 

Thanks,


Tom Nguyen, MCSD.NET
Build and Configuration Engineer
tom.nguyen@rels.info <ma...@rels.info> 

 

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Re: Subsonic Opinion

[Mohammed Mudassir Azeemi <mm...@gmail.com>]

Try projectjammer.net


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On Dec 11, 2007, at 11:25 AM, "Nguyen, Tom" <To...@rels.info>  
wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
>
>
>   I just saw several webcasts of a new framework called Subsonic and  
> want to bring it to attention to the community to get everyone  
> opinions.  http://www.subsonicproject.com  Have you used it?  What  
> do you think?  Is there anything else similar or better?
>
>
>
> Personally, from what I’ve seen, I think it looks pretty cool.   
> I’ve been using Ibatis.Net for a while and I love it.  But even with 
>  the help of codesmith, I find myself doing a lot of manual generati 
> ng and coding to do prototyping works.  I find that after prototypin 
> g, I am usually rushed to finish the project or it gets hand off to  
> another developer.  I might as well start it correctly because if I  
> prototype it badly, not only does it look bad for me, but it also ca 
> use delay in releasing to the client.  In my current job, the client 
> s always get what they want.  This is why Subsonic peek my interests.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> Tom Nguyen, MCSD.NET
> Build and Configuration Engineer
> tom.nguyen@rels.info
>
>
>
>
> This e-mail message and any files transmitted herewith, are intended  
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>