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[jira] [Created] (LEGAL-92) Someone attached a pointer to a patch
at github to a JIRA at Codehaus: can I take it?
Someone attached a pointer to a patch at github to a JIRA at Codehaus: can I take it?
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Key: LEGAL-92
URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-92
Project: Legal Discuss
Issue Type: Question
Reporter: Benson Margulies
http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MSHADE-96
Maven's jira is still at codehaus, and this submitted just left a trail of breadcrumbs pointing to a patch at github. Can I take it, or do I need to get the submitter to do something positive to submit it?
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[jira] [Commented] (LEGAL-92) Someone attached a pointer to a patch
at github to a JIRA at Codehaus: can I take it?
Posted by "Sam Ruby (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Sam Ruby commented on LEGAL-92:
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Here's the relevant portion of the Apache License:
"Contribution" shall mean any work of authorship, including the original version of the Work and any modifications or additions to that Work or Derivative Works thereof, that is intentionally submitted to Licensor for inclusion in the Work by the copyright owner or by an individual or Legal Entity authorized to submit on behalf of the copyright owner. For the purposes of this definition, "submitted" means any form of electronic, verbal, or written communication sent to the Licensor or its representatives, including but not limited to communication on electronic mailing lists, source code control systems, and issue tracking systems that are managed by, or on behalf of, the Licensor for the purpose of discussing and improving the Work, but excluding communication that is conspicuously marked or otherwise designated in writing by the copyright owner as "Not a Contribution."
This would make the relevant question to be: is Maven's jira managed by, or on behalf of, the ASF?
> Someone attached a pointer to a patch at github to a JIRA at Codehaus: can I take it?
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> Key: LEGAL-92
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-92
> Project: Legal Discuss
> Issue Type: Question
> Reporter: Benson Margulies
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> http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MSHADE-96
> Maven's jira is still at codehaus, and this submitted just left a trail of breadcrumbs pointing to a patch at github. Can I take it, or do I need to get the submitter to do something positive to submit it?
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[jira] [Commented] (LEGAL-92) Someone attached a pointer to a patch
at github to a JIRA at Codehaus: can I take it?
Posted by "Ross Gardler (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Ross Gardler commented on LEGAL-92:
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Sam,
Can I just check that you spotted the nuance in this issue (coincidentally a similar question has been asked in the JENA podling).
The issue might not be just one of where JIRA is hosted, but also whether the contribution has actually been submitted.
In this case someone has provided a link to some code which they claim to have the right to submit (i.e. they have checked the license grant box). They have not uploaded a patch to JIRA. Does this still count as submission?
(in the case of JENA it is a little simpler as the issue is on ASF JIRA).
Ross
> Someone attached a pointer to a patch at github to a JIRA at Codehaus: can I take it?
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> Key: LEGAL-92
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-92
> Project: Legal Discuss
> Issue Type: Question
> Reporter: Benson Margulies
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> http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MSHADE-96
> Maven's jira is still at codehaus, and this submitted just left a trail of breadcrumbs pointing to a patch at github. Can I take it, or do I need to get the submitter to do something positive to submit it?
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[jira] [Commented] (LEGAL-92) Someone attached a pointer to a patch
at github to a JIRA at Codehaus: can I take it?
Posted by "Benson Margulies (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Benson Margulies commented on LEGAL-92:
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I would argue that the maven jira projects at codehaus are managed by codehaus on behalf of the ASF Maven TLP. Does that seem reasonable?
> Someone attached a pointer to a patch at github to a JIRA at Codehaus: can I take it?
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> Key: LEGAL-92
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-92
> Project: Legal Discuss
> Issue Type: Question
> Reporter: Benson Margulies
>
> http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MSHADE-96
> Maven's jira is still at codehaus, and this submitted just left a trail of breadcrumbs pointing to a patch at github. Can I take it, or do I need to get the submitter to do something positive to submit it?
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[jira] [Commented] (LEGAL-92) Someone attached a pointer to a patch
at github to a JIRA at Codehaus: can I take it?
Posted by "Sam Ruby (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Sam Ruby commented on LEGAL-92:
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The relevant questions are: do you believe that it was authored by this individual and was intentionally submitted?
In this specific case, I see a 5 line patch provided by somebody who authored it themselves and by someone that has been involved with the community for a number of years
https://github.com/ck1125/maven-plugins/commit/0f18d29d3910c8e6c2df108df59d2829c8abe76c
https://github.com/ck1125
https://issues.jfrog.org/jira/browse/RTFACT-250
The only thing that would make me feel more confident is an ICLA on file. Given that we are talking about 5 lines I see no need for such in this instance.
> Someone attached a pointer to a patch at github to a JIRA at Codehaus: can I take it?
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Key: LEGAL-92
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-92
> Project: Legal Discuss
> Issue Type: Question
> Reporter: Benson Margulies
>
> http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MSHADE-96
> Maven's jira is still at codehaus, and this submitted just left a trail of breadcrumbs pointing to a patch at github. Can I take it, or do I need to get the submitter to do something positive to submit it?
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