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Posted to dev@subversion.apache.org by "Hyrum K. Wright" <hy...@mail.utexas.edu> on 2010/05/06 13:29:33 UTC

Moving asvn to its own project

Jörg,
I've noticed you've been submitting a number of patches to asvn, which
resides in our contrib/ tree.  Thanks!  As you may know, the code in
contrib/ is considered unsupported; in fact, the most recent updates to asvn
were over two years ago!  We've been trying to help the content in contrib/
find proper homes of their own, but for historical reasons some of that code
is still hosted by us (though it no longer ships with our tarballs).

Would you like to take the lead on finding a proper home for asvn, outside
of the code Subversion source tree?  You could move it to Google code, or
any number of hosting providers, where you could maintain the script on your
own, without having to worry about the core Subversion community.  Does that
interest you?

-Hyrum

Re: Moving asvn to its own project

Posted by Philipp Marek <ph...@marek.priv.at>.
Hello Jörg!

>> do you know about FSVS?
>
> since about one week: yes.
> It seems to be a very interessting project.
> I will take a closer look as soon as I've a little more time.
> However, for the requirements I'm facing in my current project,
> asvn seams to be the better choice. Mainly because its low footprint
> (single bash script).
Well, depending on your distribution there might simply be a package for FSVS ...
That's even cleaner than "installing" a shell script.

> But I'm totally aware, that fsvs is much more
> powerful.
Well, powerful is the one thing ...
But it's mostly the speed - asvn needs to traverse the working copy to set the
properties, then commit goes through all entries, too ...


Well, good luck either way!


Regards,

Phil


-- 
Versioning your /etc, /home or even your whole installation?
             Try fsvs (fsvs.tigris.org)!

Re: Moving asvn to its own project

Posted by Philipp Marek <ph...@marek.priv.at>.
Hello Jörg!

>> do you know about FSVS?
>
> since about one week: yes.
> It seems to be a very interessting project.
> I will take a closer look as soon as I've a little more time.
> However, for the requirements I'm facing in my current project,
> asvn seams to be the better choice. Mainly because its low footprint
> (single bash script).
Well, depending on your distribution there might simply be a package for FSVS ...
That's even cleaner than "installing" a shell script.

> But I'm totally aware, that fsvs is much more
> powerful.
Well, powerful is the one thing ...
But it's mostly the speed - asvn needs to traverse the working copy to set the
properties, then commit goes through all entries, too ...


Well, good luck either way!


Regards,

Phil


-- 
Versioning your /etc, /home or even your whole installation?
             Try fsvs (fsvs.tigris.org)!


Re: Moving asvn to its own project

Posted by Jörg Steffens <jo...@dass-it.de>.
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Hello Phil,

Am 10.05.2010 15:32, schrieb Philipp Marek:
>> well, the reason I picked up asvn has been that I've been looking for a
>> solution to store file permissions inside a Subversion repository.
> ...
>> I found asvn via google by looking for "subversion store file
>> permissions" in some old mailing. During the past years some people had
>> similar requirements.
> do you know about FSVS?

since about one week: yes.
It seems to be a very interessting project.
I will take a closer look as soon as I've a little more time.
However, for the requirements I'm facing in my current project,
asvn seams to be the better choice. Mainly because its low footprint
(single bash script). But I'm totally aware, that fsvs is much more
powerful.

regards,
Jörg


- -- 
  Jörg Steffens            joerg.steffens@dass-it.de
  dass IT GmbH             Phone: +49.221.3565666-91
  http://www.dass-IT.de      Fax: +49.221.3565666-10

 Sitz der Gesellschaft: Köln | Amtsgericht Köln: HRB52500
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Re: Moving asvn to its own project

Posted by Jörg Steffens <jo...@dass-it.de>.
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Hello Phil,

Am 10.05.2010 15:32, schrieb Philipp Marek:
>> well, the reason I picked up asvn has been that I've been looking for a
>> solution to store file permissions inside a Subversion repository.
> ...
>> I found asvn via google by looking for "subversion store file
>> permissions" in some old mailing. During the past years some people had
>> similar requirements.
> do you know about FSVS?

since about one week: yes.
It seems to be a very interessting project.
I will take a closer look as soon as I've a little more time.
However, for the requirements I'm facing in my current project,
asvn seams to be the better choice. Mainly because its low footprint
(single bash script). But I'm totally aware, that fsvs is much more
powerful.

regards,
Jörg


- -- 
  Jörg Steffens            joerg.steffens@dass-it.de
  dass IT GmbH             Phone: +49.221.3565666-91
  http://www.dass-IT.de      Fax: +49.221.3565666-10

 Sitz der Gesellschaft: Köln | Amtsgericht Köln: HRB52500
 Geschäftsführer: S. Dühr, M. Außendorf, Jörg Steffens, P. Storz
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Re: Moving asvn to its own project

Posted by Philipp Marek <ph...@marek.priv.at>.
Hello Jörg,

> well, the reason I picked up asvn has been that I've been looking for a
> solution to store file permissions inside a Subversion repository.
...
> I found asvn via google by looking for "subversion store file
> permissions" in some old mailing. During the past years some people had
> similar requirements.
do you know about FSVS?

    http://fsvs.tigris.org/


Regards,

Phil

-- 
Versioning your /etc, /home or even your whole installation?
             Try fsvs (fsvs.tigris.org)!

Re: Moving asvn to its own project

Posted by Philipp Marek <ph...@marek.priv.at>.
Hello Jörg,

> well, the reason I picked up asvn has been that I've been looking for a
> solution to store file permissions inside a Subversion repository.
...
> I found asvn via google by looking for "subversion store file
> permissions" in some old mailing. During the past years some people had
> similar requirements.
do you know about FSVS?

    http://fsvs.tigris.org/


Regards,

Phil

-- 
Versioning your /etc, /home or even your whole installation?
             Try fsvs (fsvs.tigris.org)!


Re: Moving asvn to its own project

Posted by Jörg Steffens <jo...@dass-it.de>.
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Hyrum,
Am 06.05.2010 15:29, schrieb Hyrum K. Wright:
> I've noticed you've been submitting a number of patches to asvn, which
> resides in our contrib/ tree.  Thanks!  As you may know, the code in
> contrib/ is considered unsupported; in fact, the most recent updates to asvn
> were over two years ago!  We've been trying to help the content in contrib/
> find proper homes of their own, but for historical reasons some of that code
> is still hosted by us (though it no longer ships with our tarballs).
> 
> Would you like to take the lead on finding a proper home for asvn, outside
> of the code Subversion source tree?  You could move it to Google code, or
> any number of hosting providers, where you could maintain the script on your
> own, without having to worry about the core Subversion community.  Does that
> interest you?

well, the reason I picked up asvn has been that I've been looking for a
solution to store file permissions inside a Subversion repository.
I've found asvn quiet quickly via google. Because of the fact that it
resides at the subversion project repository (even only in the contrib
path) I was hoping that the svn properties defined here may also be used
at other/future solutions.
I needed this for a specific project. I do not expect to use it a lot in
the future.
However, if you really want to get rid of it, I can put it into our
trac-system at https://trac.dass-it.de/pub/
There resides already a similar project called "dasscm" (wrapper around
svn to version system configuration files).
I found asvn via google by looking for "subversion store file
permissions" in some old mailing. During the past years some people had
similar requirements.
To ensure others persons will still be able to find asvn:
how would you link from the current asvn location to the new one?
Replace the asvn script with a text like "asvn has moved. It now resides
at https://trac.dass-it.de/pub/"?

regards,
Jörg


- -- 
  Jörg Steffens            joerg.steffens@dass-it.de
  dass IT GmbH             Phone: +49.221.3565666-91
  http://www.dass-IT.de      Fax: +49.221.3565666-10

 Sitz der Gesellschaft: Köln | Amtsgericht Köln: HRB52500
 Geschäftsführer: S. Dühr, M. Außendorf, Jörg Steffens, P. Storz
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Re: Moving asvn to its own project

Posted by Jörg Steffens <jo...@dass-it.de>.
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Hyrum,
Am 06.05.2010 15:29, schrieb Hyrum K. Wright:
> I've noticed you've been submitting a number of patches to asvn, which
> resides in our contrib/ tree.  Thanks!  As you may know, the code in
> contrib/ is considered unsupported; in fact, the most recent updates to asvn
> were over two years ago!  We've been trying to help the content in contrib/
> find proper homes of their own, but for historical reasons some of that code
> is still hosted by us (though it no longer ships with our tarballs).
> 
> Would you like to take the lead on finding a proper home for asvn, outside
> of the code Subversion source tree?  You could move it to Google code, or
> any number of hosting providers, where you could maintain the script on your
> own, without having to worry about the core Subversion community.  Does that
> interest you?

well, the reason I picked up asvn has been that I've been looking for a
solution to store file permissions inside a Subversion repository.
I've found asvn quiet quickly via google. Because of the fact that it
resides at the subversion project repository (even only in the contrib
path) I was hoping that the svn properties defined here may also be used
at other/future solutions.
I needed this for a specific project. I do not expect to use it a lot in
the future.
However, if you really want to get rid of it, I can put it into our
trac-system at https://trac.dass-it.de/pub/
There resides already a similar project called "dasscm" (wrapper around
svn to version system configuration files).
I found asvn via google by looking for "subversion store file
permissions" in some old mailing. During the past years some people had
similar requirements.
To ensure others persons will still be able to find asvn:
how would you link from the current asvn location to the new one?
Replace the asvn script with a text like "asvn has moved. It now resides
at https://trac.dass-it.de/pub/"?

regards,
Jörg


- -- 
  Jörg Steffens            joerg.steffens@dass-it.de
  dass IT GmbH             Phone: +49.221.3565666-91
  http://www.dass-IT.de      Fax: +49.221.3565666-10

 Sitz der Gesellschaft: Köln | Amtsgericht Köln: HRB52500
 Geschäftsführer: S. Dühr, M. Außendorf, Jörg Steffens, P. Storz
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