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Posted to dev@harmony.apache.org by usman bashir <gr...@gmail.com> on 2005/08/10 13:18:09 UTC
Re: Proposal of Harmony paper in OSS Conference
Hi every one!
i have made a document for harmony which has been submitted for the
presentation of Open Source Conference in Lahore Pakistan.
I would like to invite every one to review this document and suggest me
some changes if required.
i also want to ask from gier how can i post this document to others, so
they can view it.
at the end i also thanks for every one, as i got my all baseline from you
people.
On 7/8/05, usman bashir <gr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> thnx leo!
> yeah i am not going to represent there as an official, just a community
> worker and sure as soon as i complete my proposal and presentation i will
> put over archive to review for all of you. so that it may help not only me
> to rectify mistakes but also can be base for some other presentation for any
> one.
>
> On 7/8/05, Leo Simons <ma...@leosimons.com> wrote:
> >
> > usman bashir wrote:
> > > hi!
> >
> > Hi!
> >
> > > i just want to get a permission from the community to put up a paper
> > about
> > > the harmony creation, development and its goals for future in a
> > conference
> > > about "OSS and their future" held in Pakistan.so i just want to ask
> > that if
> > > i could put up it from harmony, if yes i will post the document to you
> >
> > > people and you can also review it as well.
> > > Acutally this conference is being held to review and push the people
> > here
> > > to look for OSS and i want to add up some thing from harmony.so i am
> > just
> > > asking a permission of you people.
> >
> > Great! You should feel more than free to talk about harmony at a
> > conference (and the same holds for anyone :-)), and I do suggest you get
> > some community review since lots of people no doubt have some
> > suggestions.
> >
> > Unfortunately, you cannot state you're "representing" "Apache Harmony"
> > or "Apache", since well, you're not. The situation would be different if
> > you would be part of some "official" part of Apache, like if you were an
> >
> > officer or a PMC member. You really wouldn't want to state something
> > like that, evil companies might sue you instead of the ASF :-)
> >
> > But I just wouldn't worry about that too much. As you're probably going
> > to spend some time explaining it all, you can explain you're a part of
> > the apache harmony community and that you're going to (my assumption
> > here) help drive the project forward as a developer.
> >
> > hope that clarifies it a bit,
> >
> > cheers,
> >
> > Leo
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Usman Bashir
> Certified IBM XML Solution Developer
> Certified UML Developer
> Brainbench Certified Internet Perfessional[advance](BCIP)
> Brainbench Certified Java Perfessional (BCJP)
> Brainbench Certified .NET Perfessional
> Brainbench Ceritified C++ Perfessional (BCCP)
> Software engineer IT24
> Faculty Member Operation Badar Lahore
--
Usman Bashir
Certified IBM XML Solution Developer
Certified UML Developer
Brainbench Certified Internet Perfessional[advance](BCIP)
Brainbench Certified Java Perfessional (BCJP)
Brainbench Certified .NET Perfessional
Brainbench Ceritified C++ Perfessional (BCCP)
Software engineer IT24
Faculty Member Operation Badar Lahore
Re: Proposal of Harmony paper in OSS Conference
Posted by usman bashir <gr...@gmail.com>.
Hi Gier!
thanks! i m sorry for not mentioning the conference link the conference
link (though now conducted but info is still there)
http://www.fossfp.org/tpfosst05
the organization of foss (the management of conference is)
http://www.fossfp.org
while as for as the paper is concern i m updating it over the blog. as i
think it could be nice intro histroy for the novice in harmony (though not
complete or a starting point though)
http://spaces.msn.com/members/gripusa
and the title of the paper was
"Introduction to Harmony"
regards,
On 8/24/05, Geir Magnusson Jr. <ge...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Congrats!
>
> Can you send us the conference, the name of the talk, etc? We should
> start recording the history...
>
> On Aug 23, 2005, at 6:03 AM, usman bashir wrote:
>
> > Hi every one!
> > i am realy pleased to thank all of you, as i had a really good
> > time on the
> > presentation and the attendies showed a great interest in the
> > project. i
> > hope it wil bring more people towards harmony either as active or
> > silent.
> > thanks to jeff for proof reading that document.
> > i would like to say that this document also let me to research
> > more about
> > JVMs and our related meterails and soon u will see my suggestions
> > about our
> > project.
> > thanks again
> > --
> > Usman Bashir
> >
>
> --
> Geir Magnusson Jr +1-203-665-6437
> geirm@apache.org
>
>
>
--
Usman Bashir
Certified IBM XML Solution Developer
Certified UML Developer
Brainbench Certified Internet Perfessional[advance](BCIP)
Brainbench Certified Java Perfessional (BCJP)
Brainbench Certified .NET Perfessional
Brainbench Ceritified C++ Perfessional (BCCP)
Software engineer IT24
Faculty Member Operation Badar Lahore
Re: Proposal of Harmony paper in OSS Conference
Posted by "Geir Magnusson Jr." <ge...@apache.org>.
Congrats!
Can you send us the conference, the name of the talk, etc? We should
start recording the history...
On Aug 23, 2005, at 6:03 AM, usman bashir wrote:
> Hi every one!
> i am realy pleased to thank all of you, as i had a really good
> time on the
> presentation and the attendies showed a great interest in the
> project. i
> hope it wil bring more people towards harmony either as active or
> silent.
> thanks to jeff for proof reading that document.
> i would like to say that this document also let me to research
> more about
> JVMs and our related meterails and soon u will see my suggestions
> about our
> project.
> thanks again
> --
> Usman Bashir
>
--
Geir Magnusson Jr +1-203-665-6437
geirm@apache.org
Re: Proposal of Harmony paper in OSS Conference
Posted by usman bashir <gr...@gmail.com>.
Hi every one!
i am realy pleased to thank all of you, as i had a really good time on the
presentation and the attendies showed a great interest in the project. i
hope it wil bring more people towards harmony either as active or silent.
thanks to jeff for proof reading that document.
i would like to say that this document also let me to research more about
JVMs and our related meterails and soon u will see my suggestions about our
project.
thanks again
--
Usman Bashir
Re: Proposal of Harmony paper in OSS Conference
Posted by Jeffrey McManigal <je...@hotmail.com>.
I've emailed you my suggestions, hope it helps.
Jeffrey_McManigal@hotmail.com<ma...@hotmail.com>
----- Original Message -----
From: usman bashir<ma...@gmail.com>
To: harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org<ma...@incubator.apache.org>
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 00:29
Subject: Re: Proposal of Harmony paper in OSS Conference
Hi !
i also posted this document on
http://usmanbashir.blogspot.com/<http://usmanbashir.blogspot.com/>
regards,
usman
On 8/11/05, usman bashir <gr...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> Hi jeff!
> though it is not particularly related with harmony project activities,
> actually it was a document about the introduction of harmony here in
> pakistan. I posted it over the mailing list so that every one can review it
> and correct me if i had missed some thing or had gone in wrong direction.
> i would appriciate the help of every one. certainly i am hoping to get
> good support for harmony after the presentation inshallah.
> i am again posting the link where i have posted for you people to review.
> http://spaces.msn.com/members/gripusa/<http://spaces.msn.com/members/gripusa/>
> urgent response is highly appriciated as i have one more day now to
> finalize it.
> regards,
> usman
> On 8/11/05, Jeffrey McManigal <je...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I've been following the Harmony project for some time now. Basically
> > I've been looking for some way to contribute. Do I under the request below
> > that you want someone to proof read this document? If so, where do you want
> > the review posted? Thanks
> >
> > Jeff McManigal
> > I/S Engineer
> >
> > Jeffrey_McManigal@hotmail.com<ma...@hotmail.com>>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: usman bashir<ma...@gmail.com>>
> > To: harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org<mailto<mailto:harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org<mailto>:
> > harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org<ma...@incubator.apache.org>>
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 08:09
> > Subject: Re: Proposal of Harmony paper in OSS Conference
> >
> >
> > Hi!
> > i tried to attach it , but it was undelivered so please look at the
> > following address
> > http://spaces.msn.com/members/gripusa<http://spaces.msn.com/members/gripusa><
> > http://spaces.msn.com/members/gripusa<http://spaces.msn.com/members/gripusa>>
> > regards,
> > usman
> >
> > On 8/10/05, Geir Magnusson Jr. <ge...@apache.org>>>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Wherever you want, so we can get to it and look at it.
> > >
> > > geir
> > >
> > > On Aug 10, 2005, at 8:01 AM, usman bashir wrote:
> > >
> > > > :)
> > > > well it is not hosted on any site yet, so how can i post the link,
> > > > though i
> > > > have few commercial sites in my under, but surelly i do not like to
> > > > post
> > > > them there.
> > > > can i post it to my blog then ??
> > > >
> > > > On 8/10/05, Geir Magnusson Jr. <ge...@apache.org>>>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >> Well, how about posting a link to the document here?
> > > >>
> > > >> On Aug 10, 2005, at 7:18 AM, usman bashir wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>> Hi every one!
> > > >>> i have made a document for harmony which has been submitted for
> > the
> > > >>> presentation of Open Source Conference in Lahore Pakistan.
> > > >>> I would like to invite every one to review this document and
> > > >>> suggest me
> > > >>> some changes if required.
> > > >>> i also want to ask from gier how can i post this document to
> > > >>> others, so
> > > >>> they can view it.
> > > >>> at the end i also thanks for every one, as i got my all baseline
> > > >>> from you
> > > >>> people.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On 7/8/05, usman bashir <gripusa@gmail.com<mailto<mailto:gripusa@gmail.com<mailto>:
> > gripusa@gmail.com<ma...@gmail.com>>> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> thnx leo!
> > > >>>> yeah i am not going to represent there as an official, just a
> > > >>>> community
> > > >>>> worker and sure as soon as i complete my proposal and
> > presentation
> > > >>>> i will
> > > >>>> put over archive to review for all of you. so that it may help
> > not
> > > >>>> only me
> > > >>>> to rectify mistakes but also can be base for some other
> > > >>>> presentation for any
> > > >>>> one.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> On 7/8/05, Leo Simons <mail@leosimons.com<mailto<mailto:mail@leosimons.com<mailto>:
> > mail@leosimons.com<ma...@leosimons.com>>> wrote:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> usman bashir wrote:
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>> hi!
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Hi!
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>> i just want to get a permission from the community to put up a
> > > >>>>>> paper
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>> about
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>> the harmony creation, development and its goals for future in a
> >
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>> conference
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>> about "OSS and their future" held in Pakistan.so i just want
> > > >>>>>> to ask
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>> that if
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>> i could put up it from harmony, if yes i will post the document
> > > >>>>>> to you
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>> people and you can also review it as well.
> > > >>>>>> Acutally this conference is being held to review and push the
> > > >>>>>> people
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>> here
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>> to look for OSS and i want to add up some thing from harmony.so
> > > >>>>>> i am
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>> just
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>> asking a permission of you people.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Great! You should feel more than free to talk about harmony at a
> > > >>>>> conference (and the same holds for anyone :-)), and I do suggest
> >
> > > >>>>> you get
> > > >>>>> some community review since lots of people no doubt have some
> > > >>>>> suggestions.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Unfortunately, you cannot state you're "representing" "Apache
> > > >>>>> Harmony"
> > > >>>>> or "Apache", since well, you're not. The situation would be
> > > >>>>> different if
> > > >>>>> you would be part of some "official" part of Apache, like if you
> >
> > > >>>>> were an
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> officer or a PMC member. You really wouldn't want to state
> > > >>>>> something
> > > >>>>> like that, evil companies might sue you instead of the ASF :-)
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> But I just wouldn't worry about that too much. As you're
> > probably
> > > >>>>> going
> > > >>>>> to spend some time explaining it all, you can explain you're a
> > > >>>>> part of
> > > >>>>> the apache harmony community and that you're going to (my
> > > >>>>> assumption
> > > >>>>> here) help drive the project forward as a developer.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> hope that clarifies it a bit,
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> cheers,
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Leo
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> --
> > > >>>> Usman Bashir
> > > >>>> Certified IBM XML Solution Developer
> > > >>>> Certified UML Developer
> > > >>>> Brainbench Certified Internet Perfessional[advance](BCIP)
> > > >>>> Brainbench Certified Java Perfessional (BCJP)
> > > >>>> Brainbench Certified .NET Perfessional
> > > >>>> Brainbench Ceritified C++ Perfessional (BCCP)
> > > >>>> Software engineer IT24
> > > >>>> Faculty Member Operation Badar Lahore
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> --
> > > >>> Usman Bashir
> > > >>> Certified IBM XML Solution Developer
> > > >>> Certified UML Developer
> > > >>> Brainbench Certified Internet Perfessional[advance](BCIP)
> > > >>> Brainbench Certified Java Perfessional (BCJP)
> > > >>> Brainbench Certified .NET Perfessional
> > > >>> Brainbench Ceritified C++ Perfessional (BCCP)
> > > >>> Software engineer IT24
> > > >>> Faculty Member Operation Badar Lahore
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > > >> --
> > > >> Geir Magnusson Jr +1-203-665-6437
> > > >> geirm@apache.org<ma...@apache.org>>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Usman Bashir
> > > > Certified IBM XML Solution Developer
> > > > Certified UML Developer
> > > > Brainbench Certified Internet Perfessional[advance](BCIP)
> > > > Brainbench Certified Java Perfessional (BCJP)
> > > > Brainbench Certified .NET Perfessional
> > > > Brainbench Ceritified C++ Perfessional (BCCP)
> > > > Software engineer IT24
> > > > Faculty Member Operation Badar Lahore
> > > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Geir Magnusson Jr +1-203-665-6437
> > > geirm@apache.org<ma...@apache.org>>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Usman Bashir
> > Certified IBM XML Solution Developer
> > Certified UML Developer
> > Brainbench Certified Internet Perfessional[advance](BCIP)
> > Brainbench Certified Java Perfessional (BCJP)
> > Brainbench Certified .NET Perfessional
> > Brainbench Ceritified C++ Perfessional (BCCP)
> > Software engineer IT24
> > Faculty Member Operation Badar Lahore
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Usman Bashir
> Certified IBM XML Solution Developer
> Certified UML Developer
> Brainbench Certified Internet Perfessional[advance](BCIP)
> Brainbench Certified Java Perfessional (BCJP)
> Brainbench Certified .NET Perfessional
> Brainbench Ceritified C++ Perfessional (BCCP)
> Software engineer IT24
> Faculty Member Operation Badar Lahore
>
--
Usman Bashir
Certified IBM XML Solution Developer
Certified UML Developer
Brainbench Certified Internet Perfessional[advance](BCIP)
Brainbench Certified Java Perfessional (BCJP)
Brainbench Certified .NET Perfessional
Brainbench Ceritified C++ Perfessional (BCCP)
Software engineer IT24
Faculty Member Operation Badar Lahore
Re: Proposal of Harmony paper in OSS Conference
Posted by usman bashir <gr...@gmail.com>.
Hi !
i also posted this document on
http://usmanbashir.blogspot.com/
regards,
usman
On 8/11/05, usman bashir <gr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi jeff!
> though it is not particularly related with harmony project activities,
> actually it was a document about the introduction of harmony here in
> pakistan. I posted it over the mailing list so that every one can review it
> and correct me if i had missed some thing or had gone in wrong direction.
> i would appriciate the help of every one. certainly i am hoping to get
> good support for harmony after the presentation inshallah.
> i am again posting the link where i have posted for you people to review.
> http://spaces.msn.com/members/gripusa/
> urgent response is highly appriciated as i have one more day now to
> finalize it.
> regards,
> usman
> On 8/11/05, Jeffrey McManigal <je...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I've been following the Harmony project for some time now. Basically
> > I've been looking for some way to contribute. Do I under the request below
> > that you want someone to proof read this document? If so, where do you want
> > the review posted? Thanks
> >
> > Jeff McManigal
> > I/S Engineer
> >
> > Jeffrey_McManigal@hotmail.com<ma...@hotmail.com>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: usman bashir<ma...@gmail.com>
> > To: harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org<mailto:
> > harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 08:09
> > Subject: Re: Proposal of Harmony paper in OSS Conference
> >
> >
> > Hi!
> > i tried to attach it , but it was undelivered so please look at the
> > following address
> > http://spaces.msn.com/members/gripusa<
> > http://spaces.msn.com/members/gripusa>
> > regards,
> > usman
> >
> > On 8/10/05, Geir Magnusson Jr. <ge...@apache.org>>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Wherever you want, so we can get to it and look at it.
> > >
> > > geir
> > >
> > > On Aug 10, 2005, at 8:01 AM, usman bashir wrote:
> > >
> > > > :)
> > > > well it is not hosted on any site yet, so how can i post the link,
> > > > though i
> > > > have few commercial sites in my under, but surelly i do not like to
> > > > post
> > > > them there.
> > > > can i post it to my blog then ??
> > > >
> > > > On 8/10/05, Geir Magnusson Jr. <ge...@apache.org>>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >> Well, how about posting a link to the document here?
> > > >>
> > > >> On Aug 10, 2005, at 7:18 AM, usman bashir wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>> Hi every one!
> > > >>> i have made a document for harmony which has been submitted for
> > the
> > > >>> presentation of Open Source Conference in Lahore Pakistan.
> > > >>> I would like to invite every one to review this document and
> > > >>> suggest me
> > > >>> some changes if required.
> > > >>> i also want to ask from gier how can i post this document to
> > > >>> others, so
> > > >>> they can view it.
> > > >>> at the end i also thanks for every one, as i got my all baseline
> > > >>> from you
> > > >>> people.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> On 7/8/05, usman bashir <gripusa@gmail.com<mailto:
> > gripusa@gmail.com>> wrote:
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> thnx leo!
> > > >>>> yeah i am not going to represent there as an official, just a
> > > >>>> community
> > > >>>> worker and sure as soon as i complete my proposal and
> > presentation
> > > >>>> i will
> > > >>>> put over archive to review for all of you. so that it may help
> > not
> > > >>>> only me
> > > >>>> to rectify mistakes but also can be base for some other
> > > >>>> presentation for any
> > > >>>> one.
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> On 7/8/05, Leo Simons <mail@leosimons.com<mailto:
> > mail@leosimons.com>> wrote:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> usman bashir wrote:
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>> hi!
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Hi!
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>> i just want to get a permission from the community to put up a
> > > >>>>>> paper
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>> about
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>> the harmony creation, development and its goals for future in a
> >
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>> conference
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>> about "OSS and their future" held in Pakistan.so i just want
> > > >>>>>> to ask
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>> that if
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>> i could put up it from harmony, if yes i will post the document
> > > >>>>>> to you
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>> people and you can also review it as well.
> > > >>>>>> Acutally this conference is being held to review and push the
> > > >>>>>> people
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>> here
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>> to look for OSS and i want to add up some thing from harmony.so
> > > >>>>>> i am
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>> just
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>> asking a permission of you people.
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Great! You should feel more than free to talk about harmony at a
> > > >>>>> conference (and the same holds for anyone :-)), and I do suggest
> >
> > > >>>>> you get
> > > >>>>> some community review since lots of people no doubt have some
> > > >>>>> suggestions.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Unfortunately, you cannot state you're "representing" "Apache
> > > >>>>> Harmony"
> > > >>>>> or "Apache", since well, you're not. The situation would be
> > > >>>>> different if
> > > >>>>> you would be part of some "official" part of Apache, like if you
> >
> > > >>>>> were an
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> officer or a PMC member. You really wouldn't want to state
> > > >>>>> something
> > > >>>>> like that, evil companies might sue you instead of the ASF :-)
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> But I just wouldn't worry about that too much. As you're
> > probably
> > > >>>>> going
> > > >>>>> to spend some time explaining it all, you can explain you're a
> > > >>>>> part of
> > > >>>>> the apache harmony community and that you're going to (my
> > > >>>>> assumption
> > > >>>>> here) help drive the project forward as a developer.
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> hope that clarifies it a bit,
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> cheers,
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>> Leo
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> --
> > > >>>> Usman Bashir
> > > >>>> Certified IBM XML Solution Developer
> > > >>>> Certified UML Developer
> > > >>>> Brainbench Certified Internet Perfessional[advance](BCIP)
> > > >>>> Brainbench Certified Java Perfessional (BCJP)
> > > >>>> Brainbench Certified .NET Perfessional
> > > >>>> Brainbench Ceritified C++ Perfessional (BCCP)
> > > >>>> Software engineer IT24
> > > >>>> Faculty Member Operation Badar Lahore
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>> --
> > > >>> Usman Bashir
> > > >>> Certified IBM XML Solution Developer
> > > >>> Certified UML Developer
> > > >>> Brainbench Certified Internet Perfessional[advance](BCIP)
> > > >>> Brainbench Certified Java Perfessional (BCJP)
> > > >>> Brainbench Certified .NET Perfessional
> > > >>> Brainbench Ceritified C++ Perfessional (BCCP)
> > > >>> Software engineer IT24
> > > >>> Faculty Member Operation Badar Lahore
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > > >> --
> > > >> Geir Magnusson Jr +1-203-665-6437
> > > >> geirm@apache.org<ma...@apache.org>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Usman Bashir
> > > > Certified IBM XML Solution Developer
> > > > Certified UML Developer
> > > > Brainbench Certified Internet Perfessional[advance](BCIP)
> > > > Brainbench Certified Java Perfessional (BCJP)
> > > > Brainbench Certified .NET Perfessional
> > > > Brainbench Ceritified C++ Perfessional (BCCP)
> > > > Software engineer IT24
> > > > Faculty Member Operation Badar Lahore
> > > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Geir Magnusson Jr +1-203-665-6437
> > > geirm@apache.org<ma...@apache.org>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Usman Bashir
> > Certified IBM XML Solution Developer
> > Certified UML Developer
> > Brainbench Certified Internet Perfessional[advance](BCIP)
> > Brainbench Certified Java Perfessional (BCJP)
> > Brainbench Certified .NET Perfessional
> > Brainbench Ceritified C++ Perfessional (BCCP)
> > Software engineer IT24
> > Faculty Member Operation Badar Lahore
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Usman Bashir
> Certified IBM XML Solution Developer
> Certified UML Developer
> Brainbench Certified Internet Perfessional[advance](BCIP)
> Brainbench Certified Java Perfessional (BCJP)
> Brainbench Certified .NET Perfessional
> Brainbench Ceritified C++ Perfessional (BCCP)
> Software engineer IT24
> Faculty Member Operation Badar Lahore
>
--
Usman Bashir
Certified IBM XML Solution Developer
Certified UML Developer
Brainbench Certified Internet Perfessional[advance](BCIP)
Brainbench Certified Java Perfessional (BCJP)
Brainbench Certified .NET Perfessional
Brainbench Ceritified C++ Perfessional (BCCP)
Software engineer IT24
Faculty Member Operation Badar Lahore
Re: Proposal of Harmony paper in OSS Conference
Posted by usman bashir <gr...@gmail.com>.
Hi jeff!
though it is not particularly related with harmony project activities,
actually it was a document about the introduction of harmony here in
pakistan. I posted it over the mailing list so that every one can review it
and correct me if i had missed some thing or had gone in wrong direction.
i would appriciate the help of every one. certainly i am hoping to get good
support for harmony after the presentation inshallah.
i am again posting the link where i have posted for you people to review.
http://spaces.msn.com/members/gripusa/
urgent response is highly appriciated as i have one more day now to
finalize it.
regards,
usman
On 8/11/05, Jeffrey McManigal <je...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I've been following the Harmony project for some time now. Basically I've
> been looking for some way to contribute. Do I under the request below that
> you want someone to proof read this document? If so, where do you want the
> review posted? Thanks
>
> Jeff McManigal
> I/S Engineer
>
> Jeffrey_McManigal@hotmail.com<ma...@hotmail.com>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: usman bashir<ma...@gmail.com>
> To: harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org<mailto:
> harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 08:09
> Subject: Re: Proposal of Harmony paper in OSS Conference
>
>
> Hi!
> i tried to attach it , but it was undelivered so please look at the
> following address
> http://spaces.msn.com/members/gripusa<
> http://spaces.msn.com/members/gripusa>
> regards,
> usman
>
> On 8/10/05, Geir Magnusson Jr. <ge...@apache.org>>
> wrote:
> >
> > Wherever you want, so we can get to it and look at it.
> >
> > geir
> >
> > On Aug 10, 2005, at 8:01 AM, usman bashir wrote:
> >
> > > :)
> > > well it is not hosted on any site yet, so how can i post the link,
> > > though i
> > > have few commercial sites in my under, but surelly i do not like to
> > > post
> > > them there.
> > > can i post it to my blog then ??
> > >
> > > On 8/10/05, Geir Magnusson Jr. <geirm@apache.org<mailto:
> geirm@apache.org>> wrote:
> > >
> > >>
> > >> Well, how about posting a link to the document here?
> > >>
> > >> On Aug 10, 2005, at 7:18 AM, usman bashir wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> Hi every one!
> > >>> i have made a document for harmony which has been submitted for the
> > >>> presentation of Open Source Conference in Lahore Pakistan.
> > >>> I would like to invite every one to review this document and
> > >>> suggest me
> > >>> some changes if required.
> > >>> i also want to ask from gier how can i post this document to
> > >>> others, so
> > >>> they can view it.
> > >>> at the end i also thanks for every one, as i got my all baseline
> > >>> from you
> > >>> people.
> > >>>
> > >>> On 7/8/05, usman bashir <gr...@gmail.com>>
> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> thnx leo!
> > >>>> yeah i am not going to represent there as an official, just a
> > >>>> community
> > >>>> worker and sure as soon as i complete my proposal and presentation
> > >>>> i will
> > >>>> put over archive to review for all of you. so that it may help not
> > >>>> only me
> > >>>> to rectify mistakes but also can be base for some other
> > >>>> presentation for any
> > >>>> one.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On 7/8/05, Leo Simons <ma...@leosimons.com>>
> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> usman bashir wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> hi!
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Hi!
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> i just want to get a permission from the community to put up a
> > >>>>>> paper
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>> about
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> the harmony creation, development and its goals for future in a
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>> conference
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> about "OSS and their future" held in Pakistan.so i just want
> > >>>>>> to ask
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>> that if
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> i could put up it from harmony, if yes i will post the document
> > >>>>>> to you
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> people and you can also review it as well.
> > >>>>>> Acutally this conference is being held to review and push the
> > >>>>>> people
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>> here
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> to look for OSS and i want to add up some thing from harmony.so
> > >>>>>> i am
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>> just
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> asking a permission of you people.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Great! You should feel more than free to talk about harmony at a
> > >>>>> conference (and the same holds for anyone :-)), and I do suggest
> > >>>>> you get
> > >>>>> some community review since lots of people no doubt have some
> > >>>>> suggestions.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Unfortunately, you cannot state you're "representing" "Apache
> > >>>>> Harmony"
> > >>>>> or "Apache", since well, you're not. The situation would be
> > >>>>> different if
> > >>>>> you would be part of some "official" part of Apache, like if you
> > >>>>> were an
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> officer or a PMC member. You really wouldn't want to state
> > >>>>> something
> > >>>>> like that, evil companies might sue you instead of the ASF :-)
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> But I just wouldn't worry about that too much. As you're probably
> > >>>>> going
> > >>>>> to spend some time explaining it all, you can explain you're a
> > >>>>> part of
> > >>>>> the apache harmony community and that you're going to (my
> > >>>>> assumption
> > >>>>> here) help drive the project forward as a developer.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> hope that clarifies it a bit,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> cheers,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Leo
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> --
> > >>>> Usman Bashir
> > >>>> Certified IBM XML Solution Developer
> > >>>> Certified UML Developer
> > >>>> Brainbench Certified Internet Perfessional[advance](BCIP)
> > >>>> Brainbench Certified Java Perfessional (BCJP)
> > >>>> Brainbench Certified .NET Perfessional
> > >>>> Brainbench Ceritified C++ Perfessional (BCCP)
> > >>>> Software engineer IT24
> > >>>> Faculty Member Operation Badar Lahore
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> --
> > >>> Usman Bashir
> > >>> Certified IBM XML Solution Developer
> > >>> Certified UML Developer
> > >>> Brainbench Certified Internet Perfessional[advance](BCIP)
> > >>> Brainbench Certified Java Perfessional (BCJP)
> > >>> Brainbench Certified .NET Perfessional
> > >>> Brainbench Ceritified C++ Perfessional (BCCP)
> > >>> Software engineer IT24
> > >>> Faculty Member Operation Badar Lahore
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Geir Magnusson Jr +1-203-665-6437
> > >> geirm@apache.org<ma...@apache.org>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Usman Bashir
> > > Certified IBM XML Solution Developer
> > > Certified UML Developer
> > > Brainbench Certified Internet Perfessional[advance](BCIP)
> > > Brainbench Certified Java Perfessional (BCJP)
> > > Brainbench Certified .NET Perfessional
> > > Brainbench Ceritified C++ Perfessional (BCCP)
> > > Software engineer IT24
> > > Faculty Member Operation Badar Lahore
> > >
> >
> > --
> > Geir Magnusson Jr +1-203-665-6437
> > geirm@apache.org<ma...@apache.org>
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Usman Bashir
> Certified IBM XML Solution Developer
> Certified UML Developer
> Brainbench Certified Internet Perfessional[advance](BCIP)
> Brainbench Certified Java Perfessional (BCJP)
> Brainbench Certified .NET Perfessional
> Brainbench Ceritified C++ Perfessional (BCCP)
> Software engineer IT24
> Faculty Member Operation Badar Lahore
>
>
--
Usman Bashir
Certified IBM XML Solution Developer
Certified UML Developer
Brainbench Certified Internet Perfessional[advance](BCIP)
Brainbench Certified Java Perfessional (BCJP)
Brainbench Certified .NET Perfessional
Brainbench Ceritified C++ Perfessional (BCCP)
Software engineer IT24
Faculty Member Operation Badar Lahore
Re: Proposal of Harmony paper in OSS Conference
Posted by Jeffrey McManigal <je...@hotmail.com>.
Hi,
I've been following the Harmony project for some time now. Basically I've been looking for some way to contribute. Do I under the request below that you want someone to proof read this document? If so, where do you want the review posted? Thanks
Jeff McManigal
I/S Engineer
Jeffrey_McManigal@hotmail.com<ma...@hotmail.com>
----- Original Message -----
From: usman bashir<ma...@gmail.com>
To: harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org<ma...@incubator.apache.org>
Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 08:09
Subject: Re: Proposal of Harmony paper in OSS Conference
Hi!
i tried to attach it , but it was undelivered so please look at the
following address
http://spaces.msn.com/members/gripusa<http://spaces.msn.com/members/gripusa>
regards,
usman
On 8/10/05, Geir Magnusson Jr. <ge...@apache.org>> wrote:
>
> Wherever you want, so we can get to it and look at it.
>
> geir
>
> On Aug 10, 2005, at 8:01 AM, usman bashir wrote:
>
> > :)
> > well it is not hosted on any site yet, so how can i post the link,
> > though i
> > have few commercial sites in my under, but surelly i do not like to
> > post
> > them there.
> > can i post it to my blog then ??
> >
> > On 8/10/05, Geir Magnusson Jr. <ge...@apache.org>> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Well, how about posting a link to the document here?
> >>
> >> On Aug 10, 2005, at 7:18 AM, usman bashir wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> Hi every one!
> >>> i have made a document for harmony which has been submitted for the
> >>> presentation of Open Source Conference in Lahore Pakistan.
> >>> I would like to invite every one to review this document and
> >>> suggest me
> >>> some changes if required.
> >>> i also want to ask from gier how can i post this document to
> >>> others, so
> >>> they can view it.
> >>> at the end i also thanks for every one, as i got my all baseline
> >>> from you
> >>> people.
> >>>
> >>> On 7/8/05, usman bashir <gr...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> thnx leo!
> >>>> yeah i am not going to represent there as an official, just a
> >>>> community
> >>>> worker and sure as soon as i complete my proposal and presentation
> >>>> i will
> >>>> put over archive to review for all of you. so that it may help not
> >>>> only me
> >>>> to rectify mistakes but also can be base for some other
> >>>> presentation for any
> >>>> one.
> >>>>
> >>>> On 7/8/05, Leo Simons <ma...@leosimons.com>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> usman bashir wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> hi!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hi!
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> i just want to get a permission from the community to put up a
> >>>>>> paper
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> about
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> the harmony creation, development and its goals for future in a
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> conference
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> about "OSS and their future" held in Pakistan.so i just want
> >>>>>> to ask
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> that if
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> i could put up it from harmony, if yes i will post the document
> >>>>>> to you
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> people and you can also review it as well.
> >>>>>> Acutally this conference is being held to review and push the
> >>>>>> people
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> here
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> to look for OSS and i want to add up some thing from harmony.so
> >>>>>> i am
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> just
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> asking a permission of you people.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Great! You should feel more than free to talk about harmony at a
> >>>>> conference (and the same holds for anyone :-)), and I do suggest
> >>>>> you get
> >>>>> some community review since lots of people no doubt have some
> >>>>> suggestions.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Unfortunately, you cannot state you're "representing" "Apache
> >>>>> Harmony"
> >>>>> or "Apache", since well, you're not. The situation would be
> >>>>> different if
> >>>>> you would be part of some "official" part of Apache, like if you
> >>>>> were an
> >>>>>
> >>>>> officer or a PMC member. You really wouldn't want to state
> >>>>> something
> >>>>> like that, evil companies might sue you instead of the ASF :-)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> But I just wouldn't worry about that too much. As you're probably
> >>>>> going
> >>>>> to spend some time explaining it all, you can explain you're a
> >>>>> part of
> >>>>> the apache harmony community and that you're going to (my
> >>>>> assumption
> >>>>> here) help drive the project forward as a developer.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> hope that clarifies it a bit,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> cheers,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Leo
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Usman Bashir
> >>>> Certified IBM XML Solution Developer
> >>>> Certified UML Developer
> >>>> Brainbench Certified Internet Perfessional[advance](BCIP)
> >>>> Brainbench Certified Java Perfessional (BCJP)
> >>>> Brainbench Certified .NET Perfessional
> >>>> Brainbench Ceritified C++ Perfessional (BCCP)
> >>>> Software engineer IT24
> >>>> Faculty Member Operation Badar Lahore
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Usman Bashir
> >>> Certified IBM XML Solution Developer
> >>> Certified UML Developer
> >>> Brainbench Certified Internet Perfessional[advance](BCIP)
> >>> Brainbench Certified Java Perfessional (BCJP)
> >>> Brainbench Certified .NET Perfessional
> >>> Brainbench Ceritified C++ Perfessional (BCCP)
> >>> Software engineer IT24
> >>> Faculty Member Operation Badar Lahore
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Geir Magnusson Jr +1-203-665-6437
> >> geirm@apache.org<ma...@apache.org>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> > Usman Bashir
> > Certified IBM XML Solution Developer
> > Certified UML Developer
> > Brainbench Certified Internet Perfessional[advance](BCIP)
> > Brainbench Certified Java Perfessional (BCJP)
> > Brainbench Certified .NET Perfessional
> > Brainbench Ceritified C++ Perfessional (BCCP)
> > Software engineer IT24
> > Faculty Member Operation Badar Lahore
> >
>
> --
> Geir Magnusson Jr +1-203-665-6437
> geirm@apache.org<ma...@apache.org>
>
>
>
--
Usman Bashir
Certified IBM XML Solution Developer
Certified UML Developer
Brainbench Certified Internet Perfessional[advance](BCIP)
Brainbench Certified Java Perfessional (BCJP)
Brainbench Certified .NET Perfessional
Brainbench Ceritified C++ Perfessional (BCCP)
Software engineer IT24
Faculty Member Operation Badar Lahore
Re: Proposal of Harmony paper in OSS Conference
Posted by usman bashir <gr...@gmail.com>.
Hi!
i tried to attach it , but it was undelivered so please look at the
following address
http://spaces.msn.com/members/gripusa
regards,
usman
On 8/10/05, Geir Magnusson Jr. <ge...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Wherever you want, so we can get to it and look at it.
>
> geir
>
> On Aug 10, 2005, at 8:01 AM, usman bashir wrote:
>
> > :)
> > well it is not hosted on any site yet, so how can i post the link,
> > though i
> > have few commercial sites in my under, but surelly i do not like to
> > post
> > them there.
> > can i post it to my blog then ??
> >
> > On 8/10/05, Geir Magnusson Jr. <ge...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Well, how about posting a link to the document here?
> >>
> >> On Aug 10, 2005, at 7:18 AM, usman bashir wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> Hi every one!
> >>> i have made a document for harmony which has been submitted for the
> >>> presentation of Open Source Conference in Lahore Pakistan.
> >>> I would like to invite every one to review this document and
> >>> suggest me
> >>> some changes if required.
> >>> i also want to ask from gier how can i post this document to
> >>> others, so
> >>> they can view it.
> >>> at the end i also thanks for every one, as i got my all baseline
> >>> from you
> >>> people.
> >>>
> >>> On 7/8/05, usman bashir <gr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> thnx leo!
> >>>> yeah i am not going to represent there as an official, just a
> >>>> community
> >>>> worker and sure as soon as i complete my proposal and presentation
> >>>> i will
> >>>> put over archive to review for all of you. so that it may help not
> >>>> only me
> >>>> to rectify mistakes but also can be base for some other
> >>>> presentation for any
> >>>> one.
> >>>>
> >>>> On 7/8/05, Leo Simons <ma...@leosimons.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> usman bashir wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> hi!
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hi!
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> i just want to get a permission from the community to put up a
> >>>>>> paper
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> about
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> the harmony creation, development and its goals for future in a
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> conference
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> about "OSS and their future" held in Pakistan.so i just want
> >>>>>> to ask
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> that if
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> i could put up it from harmony, if yes i will post the document
> >>>>>> to you
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> people and you can also review it as well.
> >>>>>> Acutally this conference is being held to review and push the
> >>>>>> people
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> here
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> to look for OSS and i want to add up some thing from harmony.so
> >>>>>> i am
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> just
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> asking a permission of you people.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Great! You should feel more than free to talk about harmony at a
> >>>>> conference (and the same holds for anyone :-)), and I do suggest
> >>>>> you get
> >>>>> some community review since lots of people no doubt have some
> >>>>> suggestions.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Unfortunately, you cannot state you're "representing" "Apache
> >>>>> Harmony"
> >>>>> or "Apache", since well, you're not. The situation would be
> >>>>> different if
> >>>>> you would be part of some "official" part of Apache, like if you
> >>>>> were an
> >>>>>
> >>>>> officer or a PMC member. You really wouldn't want to state
> >>>>> something
> >>>>> like that, evil companies might sue you instead of the ASF :-)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> But I just wouldn't worry about that too much. As you're probably
> >>>>> going
> >>>>> to spend some time explaining it all, you can explain you're a
> >>>>> part of
> >>>>> the apache harmony community and that you're going to (my
> >>>>> assumption
> >>>>> here) help drive the project forward as a developer.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> hope that clarifies it a bit,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> cheers,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Leo
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Usman Bashir
> >>>> Certified IBM XML Solution Developer
> >>>> Certified UML Developer
> >>>> Brainbench Certified Internet Perfessional[advance](BCIP)
> >>>> Brainbench Certified Java Perfessional (BCJP)
> >>>> Brainbench Certified .NET Perfessional
> >>>> Brainbench Ceritified C++ Perfessional (BCCP)
> >>>> Software engineer IT24
> >>>> Faculty Member Operation Badar Lahore
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Usman Bashir
> >>> Certified IBM XML Solution Developer
> >>> Certified UML Developer
> >>> Brainbench Certified Internet Perfessional[advance](BCIP)
> >>> Brainbench Certified Java Perfessional (BCJP)
> >>> Brainbench Certified .NET Perfessional
> >>> Brainbench Ceritified C++ Perfessional (BCCP)
> >>> Software engineer IT24
> >>> Faculty Member Operation Badar Lahore
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Geir Magnusson Jr +1-203-665-6437
> >> geirm@apache.org
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> > Usman Bashir
> > Certified IBM XML Solution Developer
> > Certified UML Developer
> > Brainbench Certified Internet Perfessional[advance](BCIP)
> > Brainbench Certified Java Perfessional (BCJP)
> > Brainbench Certified .NET Perfessional
> > Brainbench Ceritified C++ Perfessional (BCCP)
> > Software engineer IT24
> > Faculty Member Operation Badar Lahore
> >
>
> --
> Geir Magnusson Jr +1-203-665-6437
> geirm@apache.org
>
>
>
--
Usman Bashir
Certified IBM XML Solution Developer
Certified UML Developer
Brainbench Certified Internet Perfessional[advance](BCIP)
Brainbench Certified Java Perfessional (BCJP)
Brainbench Certified .NET Perfessional
Brainbench Ceritified C++ Perfessional (BCCP)
Software engineer IT24
Faculty Member Operation Badar Lahore
Re: Two suggestions
Posted by David Tanzer <st...@guglhupf.net>.
Sure, it's not so much work to post a copy to this list too ;-)
Regards, David.
Nazilin wrote:
> Thanks David,
> It is good. Would you be able to post the same every week in this news
> group also.
>
> Thanks and Regards
> Nazilin
>
>
>
> USTechnology
>
>
> Nazilin Vaheed
>
> Nazilin.Vaheed@ustri.com
>
> 4th Floor Bhavani, Technopark
> Trivandrum - 695 581
> Tel: 91-471-2335-777 extn 2411
> Cell: 91-989-522-2434
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Tanzer [mailto:struppi@guglhupf.net]
> Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 12:07 PM
> To: harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Two suggestions
>
> Hi.
>
> Nazilin wrote:
>
>>[Snip]
>> 2. It would be great some one send weekly newsletter in this forumn
>>summarizing (or listing) the emails exchanged in the week.
>
>
> Last week I have started a series i call "This Week on harmony-dev" on
> my homepage http://deltalabs.at - There I want to post *really short*
> summaries about the discussions here in this list. Maybe you can give
> me some feedback if you think it's useful or if I should do it in a
> different way.
>
> Regards, David.
>
RE: Two suggestions
Posted by Nazilin <na...@ustri.com>.
Thanks David,
It is good. Would you be able to post the same every week in this news
group also.
Thanks and Regards
Nazilin
USTechnology
Nazilin Vaheed
Nazilin.Vaheed@ustri.com
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Trivandrum - 695 581
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-----Original Message-----
From: David Tanzer [mailto:struppi@guglhupf.net]
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 12:07 PM
To: harmony-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Two suggestions
Hi.
Nazilin wrote:
> [Snip]
> 2. It would be great some one send weekly newsletter in this forumn
> summarizing (or listing) the emails exchanged in the week.
Last week I have started a series i call "This Week on harmony-dev" on
my homepage http://deltalabs.at - There I want to post *really short*
summaries about the discussions here in this list. Maybe you can give
me some feedback if you think it's useful or if I should do it in a
different way.
Regards, David.
Re: Two suggestions
Posted by David Tanzer <st...@guglhupf.net>.
Hi.
Nazilin wrote:
> [Snip]
> 2. It would be great some one send weekly newsletter in this forumn
> summarizing (or listing) the emails exchanged in the week.
Last week I have started a series i call "This Week on harmony-dev" on
my homepage http://deltalabs.at - There I want to post *really short*
summaries about the discussions here in this list. Maybe you can give
me some feedback if you think it's useful or if I should do it in a
different way.
Regards, David.
Re: Two suggestions
Posted by Pedro Brigatto <pe...@gmail.com>.
Thanks for the attention, Ghosh.
I'm gonna study the documentation to be informed about the project current
situation/status.
Thanks all =)
Re: Two suggestions
Posted by Anindo Ghosh <gh...@gmail.com>.
The project homepage - http://incubator.apache.org/harmony/
along with the Wiki - http://wiki.apache.org/harmony/
should be a good starting point.You can go through the project
proposal, arch,faqs etc.
Also browsing through the mailing list archives will give you a feel
of the story so far.
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-harmony-dev/
Thanks,
Anindo
On 8/11/05, Pedro Brigatto <pe...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hey, hello everybody!
> I'm just new in the project, and would like to know from you all what you
> consider that is the most important steps for me - a beginner here in
> Harmony.
> What to be read, what to be studied, somethings like this.
> I wanna contribute, but I suppose an initial knowledge about the structure
> that's already built is crucial, isn't it?
> =) Thanks for the attention.
> Waiting for a response....
> Pedro Brigatto
> Campinas - Sao Paulo - Brazil
>
>
Re: Two suggestions
Posted by Pedro Brigatto <pe...@gmail.com>.
Hey, hello everybody!
I'm just new in the project, and would like to know from you all what you
consider that is the most important steps for me - a beginner here in
Harmony.
What to be read, what to be studied, somethings like this.
I wanna contribute, but I suppose an initial knowledge about the structure
that's already built is crucial, isn't it?
=) Thanks for the attention.
Waiting for a response....
Pedro Brigatto
Campinas - Sao Paulo - Brazil
Re: Two suggestions
Posted by "Geir Magnusson Jr." <ge...@apache.org>.
On Aug 11, 2005, at 1:26 AM, Nazilin wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I have been reading many emails in this forumn. I am first time
> in an
> open source venture. I would also like to contribute, but don't
> know how. I
> have two suggestions.
>
> 1. There are few people who came forward to contribute towards the
> "harmony". It would be good one of us make a list of them and
> categorize
> them according to their skills and interests. This suggestion may
> be out of
> synch with the "open source philosophy". But if we know our
> strength we can
> plan and accomplish the goal better. The volunteers can do quick
> coding of
> proof of concept model or some other short term tasks.
Great - something for the wiki?
>
> 2. It would be great some one send weekly newsletter in this forumn
> summarizing (or listing) the emails exchanged in the week.
>
>
> Thanks and Regards
> Nazilin
>
>
--
Geir Magnusson Jr +1-203-665-6437
geirm@apache.org
Two suggestions
Posted by Nazilin <na...@ustri.com>.
Hi All,
I have been reading many emails in this forumn. I am first time in an
open source venture. I would also like to contribute, but don't know how. I
have two suggestions.
1. There are few people who came forward to contribute towards the
"harmony". It would be good one of us make a list of them and categorize
them according to their skills and interests. This suggestion may be out of
synch with the "open source philosophy". But if we know our strength we can
plan and accomplish the goal better. The volunteers can do quick coding of
proof of concept model or some other short term tasks.
2. It would be great some one send weekly newsletter in this forumn
summarizing (or listing) the emails exchanged in the week.
Thanks and Regards
Nazilin
Re: Proposal of Harmony paper in OSS Conference
Posted by "Geir Magnusson Jr." <ge...@apache.org>.
Wherever you want, so we can get to it and look at it.
geir
On Aug 10, 2005, at 8:01 AM, usman bashir wrote:
> :)
> well it is not hosted on any site yet, so how can i post the link,
> though i
> have few commercial sites in my under, but surelly i do not like to
> post
> them there.
> can i post it to my blog then ??
>
> On 8/10/05, Geir Magnusson Jr. <ge...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>>
>> Well, how about posting a link to the document here?
>>
>> On Aug 10, 2005, at 7:18 AM, usman bashir wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Hi every one!
>>> i have made a document for harmony which has been submitted for the
>>> presentation of Open Source Conference in Lahore Pakistan.
>>> I would like to invite every one to review this document and
>>> suggest me
>>> some changes if required.
>>> i also want to ask from gier how can i post this document to
>>> others, so
>>> they can view it.
>>> at the end i also thanks for every one, as i got my all baseline
>>> from you
>>> people.
>>>
>>> On 7/8/05, usman bashir <gr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> thnx leo!
>>>> yeah i am not going to represent there as an official, just a
>>>> community
>>>> worker and sure as soon as i complete my proposal and presentation
>>>> i will
>>>> put over archive to review for all of you. so that it may help not
>>>> only me
>>>> to rectify mistakes but also can be base for some other
>>>> presentation for any
>>>> one.
>>>>
>>>> On 7/8/05, Leo Simons <ma...@leosimons.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> usman bashir wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> hi!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> i just want to get a permission from the community to put up a
>>>>>> paper
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> about
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> the harmony creation, development and its goals for future in a
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> conference
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> about "OSS and their future" held in Pakistan.so i just want
>>>>>> to ask
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> that if
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> i could put up it from harmony, if yes i will post the document
>>>>>> to you
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> people and you can also review it as well.
>>>>>> Acutally this conference is being held to review and push the
>>>>>> people
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> here
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> to look for OSS and i want to add up some thing from harmony.so
>>>>>> i am
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> just
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> asking a permission of you people.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Great! You should feel more than free to talk about harmony at a
>>>>> conference (and the same holds for anyone :-)), and I do suggest
>>>>> you get
>>>>> some community review since lots of people no doubt have some
>>>>> suggestions.
>>>>>
>>>>> Unfortunately, you cannot state you're "representing" "Apache
>>>>> Harmony"
>>>>> or "Apache", since well, you're not. The situation would be
>>>>> different if
>>>>> you would be part of some "official" part of Apache, like if you
>>>>> were an
>>>>>
>>>>> officer or a PMC member. You really wouldn't want to state
>>>>> something
>>>>> like that, evil companies might sue you instead of the ASF :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> But I just wouldn't worry about that too much. As you're probably
>>>>> going
>>>>> to spend some time explaining it all, you can explain you're a
>>>>> part of
>>>>> the apache harmony community and that you're going to (my
>>>>> assumption
>>>>> here) help drive the project forward as a developer.
>>>>>
>>>>> hope that clarifies it a bit,
>>>>>
>>>>> cheers,
>>>>>
>>>>> Leo
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Usman Bashir
>>>> Certified IBM XML Solution Developer
>>>> Certified UML Developer
>>>> Brainbench Certified Internet Perfessional[advance](BCIP)
>>>> Brainbench Certified Java Perfessional (BCJP)
>>>> Brainbench Certified .NET Perfessional
>>>> Brainbench Ceritified C++ Perfessional (BCCP)
>>>> Software engineer IT24
>>>> Faculty Member Operation Badar Lahore
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Usman Bashir
>>> Certified IBM XML Solution Developer
>>> Certified UML Developer
>>> Brainbench Certified Internet Perfessional[advance](BCIP)
>>> Brainbench Certified Java Perfessional (BCJP)
>>> Brainbench Certified .NET Perfessional
>>> Brainbench Ceritified C++ Perfessional (BCCP)
>>> Software engineer IT24
>>> Faculty Member Operation Badar Lahore
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Geir Magnusson Jr +1-203-665-6437
>> geirm@apache.org
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Usman Bashir
> Certified IBM XML Solution Developer
> Certified UML Developer
> Brainbench Certified Internet Perfessional[advance](BCIP)
> Brainbench Certified Java Perfessional (BCJP)
> Brainbench Certified .NET Perfessional
> Brainbench Ceritified C++ Perfessional (BCCP)
> Software engineer IT24
> Faculty Member Operation Badar Lahore
>
--
Geir Magnusson Jr +1-203-665-6437
geirm@apache.org
Re: Proposal of Harmony paper in OSS Conference
Posted by "Ravi k.Gorrepati" <ra...@cs.unm.edu>.
Cant you send it as a attachment?
-Ravi
usman bashir wrote:
>:)
> well it is not hosted on any site yet, so how can i post the link, though i
>have few commercial sites in my under, but surelly i do not like to post
>them there.
> can i post it to my blog then ??
>
> On 8/10/05, Geir Magnusson Jr. <ge...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>
>>Well, how about posting a link to the document here?
>>
>>On Aug 10, 2005, at 7:18 AM, usman bashir wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Hi every one!
>>>i have made a document for harmony which has been submitted for the
>>>presentation of Open Source Conference in Lahore Pakistan.
>>>I would like to invite every one to review this document and
>>>suggest me
>>>some changes if required.
>>>i also want to ask from gier how can i post this document to
>>>others, so
>>>they can view it.
>>>at the end i also thanks for every one, as i got my all baseline
>>>from you
>>>people.
>>>
>>>On 7/8/05, usman bashir <gr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>thnx leo!
>>>>yeah i am not going to represent there as an official, just a
>>>>community
>>>>worker and sure as soon as i complete my proposal and presentation
>>>>i will
>>>>put over archive to review for all of you. so that it may help not
>>>>only me
>>>>to rectify mistakes but also can be base for some other
>>>>presentation for any
>>>>one.
>>>>
>>>>On 7/8/05, Leo Simons <ma...@leosimons.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>usman bashir wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>hi!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>Hi!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>i just want to get a permission from the community to put up a
>>>>>>paper
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>about
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>the harmony creation, development and its goals for future in a
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>conference
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>about "OSS and their future" held in Pakistan.so i just want to ask
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>that if
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>i could put up it from harmony, if yes i will post the document
>>>>>>to you
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>people and you can also review it as well.
>>>>>>Acutally this conference is being held to review and push the
>>>>>>people
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>here
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>to look for OSS and i want to add up some thing from harmony.so
>>>>>>i am
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>just
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>asking a permission of you people.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>Great! You should feel more than free to talk about harmony at a
>>>>>conference (and the same holds for anyone :-)), and I do suggest
>>>>>you get
>>>>>some community review since lots of people no doubt have some
>>>>>suggestions.
>>>>>
>>>>>Unfortunately, you cannot state you're "representing" "Apache
>>>>>Harmony"
>>>>>or "Apache", since well, you're not. The situation would be
>>>>>different if
>>>>>you would be part of some "official" part of Apache, like if you
>>>>>were an
>>>>>
>>>>>officer or a PMC member. You really wouldn't want to state something
>>>>>like that, evil companies might sue you instead of the ASF :-)
>>>>>
>>>>>But I just wouldn't worry about that too much. As you're probably
>>>>>going
>>>>>to spend some time explaining it all, you can explain you're a
>>>>>part of
>>>>>the apache harmony community and that you're going to (my assumption
>>>>>here) help drive the project forward as a developer.
>>>>>
>>>>>hope that clarifies it a bit,
>>>>>
>>>>>cheers,
>>>>>
>>>>>Leo
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>Usman Bashir
>>>>Certified IBM XML Solution Developer
>>>>Certified UML Developer
>>>>Brainbench Certified Internet Perfessional[advance](BCIP)
>>>>Brainbench Certified Java Perfessional (BCJP)
>>>>Brainbench Certified .NET Perfessional
>>>>Brainbench Ceritified C++ Perfessional (BCCP)
>>>>Software engineer IT24
>>>>Faculty Member Operation Badar Lahore
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>--
>>>Usman Bashir
>>>Certified IBM XML Solution Developer
>>>Certified UML Developer
>>>Brainbench Certified Internet Perfessional[advance](BCIP)
>>>Brainbench Certified Java Perfessional (BCJP)
>>>Brainbench Certified .NET Perfessional
>>>Brainbench Ceritified C++ Perfessional (BCCP)
>>>Software engineer IT24
>>>Faculty Member Operation Badar Lahore
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>--
>>Geir Magnusson Jr +1-203-665-6437
>>geirm@apache.org
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
Re: Proposal of Harmony paper in OSS Conference
Posted by usman bashir <gr...@gmail.com>.
:)
well it is not hosted on any site yet, so how can i post the link, though i
have few commercial sites in my under, but surelly i do not like to post
them there.
can i post it to my blog then ??
On 8/10/05, Geir Magnusson Jr. <ge...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Well, how about posting a link to the document here?
>
> On Aug 10, 2005, at 7:18 AM, usman bashir wrote:
>
> > Hi every one!
> > i have made a document for harmony which has been submitted for the
> > presentation of Open Source Conference in Lahore Pakistan.
> > I would like to invite every one to review this document and
> > suggest me
> > some changes if required.
> > i also want to ask from gier how can i post this document to
> > others, so
> > they can view it.
> > at the end i also thanks for every one, as i got my all baseline
> > from you
> > people.
> >
> > On 7/8/05, usman bashir <gr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> thnx leo!
> >> yeah i am not going to represent there as an official, just a
> >> community
> >> worker and sure as soon as i complete my proposal and presentation
> >> i will
> >> put over archive to review for all of you. so that it may help not
> >> only me
> >> to rectify mistakes but also can be base for some other
> >> presentation for any
> >> one.
> >>
> >> On 7/8/05, Leo Simons <ma...@leosimons.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> usman bashir wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> hi!
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Hi!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> i just want to get a permission from the community to put up a
> >>>> paper
> >>>>
> >>> about
> >>>
> >>>> the harmony creation, development and its goals for future in a
> >>>>
> >>> conference
> >>>
> >>>> about "OSS and their future" held in Pakistan.so i just want to ask
> >>>>
> >>> that if
> >>>
> >>>> i could put up it from harmony, if yes i will post the document
> >>>> to you
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> people and you can also review it as well.
> >>>> Acutally this conference is being held to review and push the
> >>>> people
> >>>>
> >>> here
> >>>
> >>>> to look for OSS and i want to add up some thing from harmony.so
> >>>> i am
> >>>>
> >>> just
> >>>
> >>>> asking a permission of you people.
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Great! You should feel more than free to talk about harmony at a
> >>> conference (and the same holds for anyone :-)), and I do suggest
> >>> you get
> >>> some community review since lots of people no doubt have some
> >>> suggestions.
> >>>
> >>> Unfortunately, you cannot state you're "representing" "Apache
> >>> Harmony"
> >>> or "Apache", since well, you're not. The situation would be
> >>> different if
> >>> you would be part of some "official" part of Apache, like if you
> >>> were an
> >>>
> >>> officer or a PMC member. You really wouldn't want to state something
> >>> like that, evil companies might sue you instead of the ASF :-)
> >>>
> >>> But I just wouldn't worry about that too much. As you're probably
> >>> going
> >>> to spend some time explaining it all, you can explain you're a
> >>> part of
> >>> the apache harmony community and that you're going to (my assumption
> >>> here) help drive the project forward as a developer.
> >>>
> >>> hope that clarifies it a bit,
> >>>
> >>> cheers,
> >>>
> >>> Leo
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Usman Bashir
> >> Certified IBM XML Solution Developer
> >> Certified UML Developer
> >> Brainbench Certified Internet Perfessional[advance](BCIP)
> >> Brainbench Certified Java Perfessional (BCJP)
> >> Brainbench Certified .NET Perfessional
> >> Brainbench Ceritified C++ Perfessional (BCCP)
> >> Software engineer IT24
> >> Faculty Member Operation Badar Lahore
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Usman Bashir
> > Certified IBM XML Solution Developer
> > Certified UML Developer
> > Brainbench Certified Internet Perfessional[advance](BCIP)
> > Brainbench Certified Java Perfessional (BCJP)
> > Brainbench Certified .NET Perfessional
> > Brainbench Ceritified C++ Perfessional (BCCP)
> > Software engineer IT24
> > Faculty Member Operation Badar Lahore
> >
>
> --
> Geir Magnusson Jr +1-203-665-6437
> geirm@apache.org
>
>
>
--
Usman Bashir
Certified IBM XML Solution Developer
Certified UML Developer
Brainbench Certified Internet Perfessional[advance](BCIP)
Brainbench Certified Java Perfessional (BCJP)
Brainbench Certified .NET Perfessional
Brainbench Ceritified C++ Perfessional (BCCP)
Software engineer IT24
Faculty Member Operation Badar Lahore
Re: Proposal of Harmony paper in OSS Conference
Posted by "Geir Magnusson Jr." <ge...@apache.org>.
Well, how about posting a link to the document here?
On Aug 10, 2005, at 7:18 AM, usman bashir wrote:
> Hi every one!
> i have made a document for harmony which has been submitted for the
> presentation of Open Source Conference in Lahore Pakistan.
> I would like to invite every one to review this document and
> suggest me
> some changes if required.
> i also want to ask from gier how can i post this document to
> others, so
> they can view it.
> at the end i also thanks for every one, as i got my all baseline
> from you
> people.
>
> On 7/8/05, usman bashir <gr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> thnx leo!
>> yeah i am not going to represent there as an official, just a
>> community
>> worker and sure as soon as i complete my proposal and presentation
>> i will
>> put over archive to review for all of you. so that it may help not
>> only me
>> to rectify mistakes but also can be base for some other
>> presentation for any
>> one.
>>
>> On 7/8/05, Leo Simons <ma...@leosimons.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> usman bashir wrote:
>>>
>>>> hi!
>>>>
>>>
>>> Hi!
>>>
>>>
>>>> i just want to get a permission from the community to put up a
>>>> paper
>>>>
>>> about
>>>
>>>> the harmony creation, development and its goals for future in a
>>>>
>>> conference
>>>
>>>> about "OSS and their future" held in Pakistan.so i just want to ask
>>>>
>>> that if
>>>
>>>> i could put up it from harmony, if yes i will post the document
>>>> to you
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> people and you can also review it as well.
>>>> Acutally this conference is being held to review and push the
>>>> people
>>>>
>>> here
>>>
>>>> to look for OSS and i want to add up some thing from harmony.so
>>>> i am
>>>>
>>> just
>>>
>>>> asking a permission of you people.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Great! You should feel more than free to talk about harmony at a
>>> conference (and the same holds for anyone :-)), and I do suggest
>>> you get
>>> some community review since lots of people no doubt have some
>>> suggestions.
>>>
>>> Unfortunately, you cannot state you're "representing" "Apache
>>> Harmony"
>>> or "Apache", since well, you're not. The situation would be
>>> different if
>>> you would be part of some "official" part of Apache, like if you
>>> were an
>>>
>>> officer or a PMC member. You really wouldn't want to state something
>>> like that, evil companies might sue you instead of the ASF :-)
>>>
>>> But I just wouldn't worry about that too much. As you're probably
>>> going
>>> to spend some time explaining it all, you can explain you're a
>>> part of
>>> the apache harmony community and that you're going to (my assumption
>>> here) help drive the project forward as a developer.
>>>
>>> hope that clarifies it a bit,
>>>
>>> cheers,
>>>
>>> Leo
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Usman Bashir
>> Certified IBM XML Solution Developer
>> Certified UML Developer
>> Brainbench Certified Internet Perfessional[advance](BCIP)
>> Brainbench Certified Java Perfessional (BCJP)
>> Brainbench Certified .NET Perfessional
>> Brainbench Ceritified C++ Perfessional (BCCP)
>> Software engineer IT24
>> Faculty Member Operation Badar Lahore
>>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Usman Bashir
> Certified IBM XML Solution Developer
> Certified UML Developer
> Brainbench Certified Internet Perfessional[advance](BCIP)
> Brainbench Certified Java Perfessional (BCJP)
> Brainbench Certified .NET Perfessional
> Brainbench Ceritified C++ Perfessional (BCCP)
> Software engineer IT24
> Faculty Member Operation Badar Lahore
>
--
Geir Magnusson Jr +1-203-665-6437
geirm@apache.org