Reducing 'unsubscribe me' traffic?

[Carl Woolf <cw...@macromedia.com>]

Hi Glen!

<die-hard-empathy-for-fellow-technophobes SOAP-ENV:mustUnderstand="0">

I think a lot of folks get subscribed in a way that Pragmatic Programmer
would describe as 'by accident', in the sense that they are not quite sure
of the procedure / process / architecture / methodology, someone wrote
something on a slip of paper, they went to 10 different pages trying to
find the command, eventually did something that worked but don't remember
what in all the confusion. Certainly don't remember the one bit about how
to unsubscribe. 'RTFM' can easily get out-weighed by information-overload
and confusion.

</die-hard-empathy-for-fellow-technophobes>

These messages certainly are annoying, though!!

<main-point>

I notice that all messages to soap-user seem to have tacked to their ends
an automatic reminder of how to unsubscribe. I'll bet that such a tack-on
would diminish (not eliminate, let's be real) the 'unsubscribe me' traffic.

</main-point>

Does anyone know how to configure the various soap/axis lists so that these
automatic reminders appear on all our favorite lists? (Uh oh, I don't
remember whether the FM already told me how to handle this :>)

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Glen Daniels [mailto:gdaniels@macromedia.com]
> Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2001 9:22 AM
> To: Verma, Sandip; soap-dev@xml.apache.org
> Subject: Re: unsubscribe me, now !
> 
> 
> 
> <nice-guy SOAP-ENV:mustUnderstand="1">
> Hi, Sandip!  When you originally subscribed to the list, you received
> instructions as to how you can unsubscribe.  These 
> instructions are also
> readily available (there's even a click-to-unsubscribe link) at
> http://xml.apache.org/soap/mail.html.  Since list 
> administration is meant to
> be 99% automated, we ask that you please take care of this yourself.
> </nice-guy>
> 
> <honest-indignation>
> For crying out loud, how do you people manage to survive on 
> the net?  How
> did you get on this list in the first place?  If you have the 
> smarts to sign
> up for a technical mailing list (or did you think this was a 
> list about
> cleaning products? :)), you should realize that a) sending 
> unsubscribe-me
> messages to a large mailing list full of people is NOT very 
> productive, and
> only serves to tick people off, and b) you ALREADY got all 
> the information
> you needed when you signed on!  Did you just ignore it?
> 
> <fyi>This portion of the message was solely triggered by the 
> "now!" portion
> of your message, which in this context implies a truly 
> staggering disregard
> for netiquette.  Please go read one of the many guides to being a good
> internet citizen for more information on this.</fyi>
> 
> </honest-indignation>
> 
> Good luck,
> --Glen
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Verma, Sandip" <sa...@csfb.com>
> To: <so...@xml.apache.org>
> Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2001 5:03 AM
> Subject: unsubscribe me, now !
>