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[jira] [Updated] (LEGAL-519) ASF Apache 2 with a SaaS restriction

     [ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-519?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ]

Jean-Baptiste Briaud updated LEGAL-519:
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    Description: 
Hi,

I'm seeking for a open source license and target to use Apache 2.

I'm wondering about a SaaS clause:
 * an ASF license,
 * all Apache 2 permissions and restrictions,
 * without permission for SaaS only use

To clarify the later, I'm thinking about an ASF version of this one : 

[https://www.confluent.io/confluent-community-license]

Other pointers:

[https://hub.packtpub.com/confluent-an-apache-kafka-service-provider-adopts-a-new-license-to-fight-against-cloud-service-providers/]

[https://www.confluent.io/confluent-community-license-faq/]

 

AGPL doesn't fit he need:
 * too restrictive, forbid network use, not just put in "SaaS without added value"
 (I know "added value" is impossible to define, but I also know SaaS restriction is a need)
 * plus all GPL things, too far from permissive spirit.

 

I'd like to protect from a simple, direct licensed software to be put, alone, as SaaS offer. I'd like to keep for myself only this possibility.

 

What do you think?

  was:
Hi,

I'm seeking for a open source license and target to use Apache 2.

I'm fine the licensed software being a component, part of a cloud SaaS offer from anyone.

However, I'd like to protect from a simple, direct licensed software to be put, alone, as SaaS offer. I'd like to keep for myself only this possibility.

As a summary:
 * an ASF license,
 * all Apache 2 permissions and restrictions,
 * without permission for SaaS only use

To clarify the later, I'm thinking about an ASF version of this one : 

[https://www.confluent.io/confluent-community-license]

Other pointers:

[https://hub.packtpub.com/confluent-an-apache-kafka-service-provider-adopts-a-new-license-to-fight-against-cloud-service-providers/]

[https://www.confluent.io/confluent-community-license-faq/]

 

AGPL doesn't fit he need:
 * too restrictive, forbid network use, not just put in "SaaS without added value"
(I know "added value" is impossible to define, but I also know SaaS restriction is a need)
 * plus all GPL things, too far from permissive spirit.

 

What do you think?


> ASF Apache 2 with a SaaS restriction
> ------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: LEGAL-519
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-519
>             Project: Legal Discuss
>          Issue Type: Question
>            Reporter: Jean-Baptiste Briaud
>            Priority: Major
>
> Hi,
> I'm seeking for a open source license and target to use Apache 2.
> I'm wondering about a SaaS clause:
>  * an ASF license,
>  * all Apache 2 permissions and restrictions,
>  * without permission for SaaS only use
> To clarify the later, I'm thinking about an ASF version of this one : 
> [https://www.confluent.io/confluent-community-license]
> Other pointers:
> [https://hub.packtpub.com/confluent-an-apache-kafka-service-provider-adopts-a-new-license-to-fight-against-cloud-service-providers/]
> [https://www.confluent.io/confluent-community-license-faq/]
>  
> AGPL doesn't fit he need:
>  * too restrictive, forbid network use, not just put in "SaaS without added value"
>  (I know "added value" is impossible to define, but I also know SaaS restriction is a need)
>  * plus all GPL things, too far from permissive spirit.
>  
> I'd like to protect from a simple, direct licensed software to be put, alone, as SaaS offer. I'd like to keep for myself only this possibility.
>  
> What do you think?



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