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Posted to dev@directory.apache.org by Chris Custine <cc...@apache.org> on 2008/01/07 00:44:53 UTC
Installers Update
I have spoken with a few people about checking out OpenInstaller in the past
few weeks and I wanted to give a quick little bit of information. I think
the OpenInstaller project would be very cool for building up some consistent
cross-platform installers using a single toolkit. However, while I was
reviewing the licensing of the dependencies this weekend, I realized that
the packager embeds at least one LGPL product inside the installer package
(primarily CHARVA which looks like the tool used to create text based
installers). This means that to ship installers based on this toolkit, we
would be shipping LGPL libs embedded in the installer toolkit. So at this
point I am not sure if there is any point in continuing down that path, but
if anyone has any opinions otherwise let me know.
The alternative for now is to continue to expand the current installers to
additional specific platform packaging (Debian and Sun Pkg manager are
frequently requested), which is something I was trying to help us avoid
since maintenance and consistency of the packages requires a fair bit of
time and interest, neither of which are in abundance.
I have started reviewing the current installers and should have some of the
current issues cleaned up by next weekend, but I can't guarantee that I have
the bandwidth to learn how to create the deb and Sun pkg installers any time
soon so if anyone else wants to lend a hand with that it would be
appreciated.
Thanks,
Chris
Re: Installers Update
Posted by Alex Karasulu <ak...@apache.org>.
Thanks Chris. I hope these installers can be used somehow.
Alex
On Jan 7, 2008 10:18 AM, Chris Custine <cc...@apache.org> wrote:
> Great idea Alex. I am travelling today, but I will send something to them
> tonight when I get to my hotel.
>
> Thanks,
> Chris
>
>
> On Jan 7, 2008 12:37 AM, Emmanuel Lecharny < elecharny@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Thanks Chris !
> >
> > yeah, I think Alex is right, we should ask legal@a.o to see if this is a
> > potential problem or not.
> >
> > Blind guess is that if we have to include a LGPL lib to the distribution
> > package, we are FU.
> >
> > Alex Karasulu wrote:
> > > Could you run this by legal@ to see what the final verdict is?
> > >
> > > Alex
> > >
> > > On Jan 6, 2008 6:44 PM, Chris Custine <ccustine@apache.org
> > > <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
> > >
> > > I have spoken with a few people about checking out OpenInstaller
> > > in the past few weeks and I wanted to give a quick little bit of
> > > information. I think the OpenInstaller project would be very cool
> > > for building up some consistent cross-platform installers using a
> > > single toolkit. However, while I was reviewing the licensing of
> > > the dependencies this weekend, I realized that the packager embeds
> > > at least one LGPL product inside the installer package (primarily
> > > CHARVA which looks like the tool used to create text based
> > > installers). This means that to ship installers based on this
> > > toolkit, we would be shipping LGPL libs embedded in the installer
> > > toolkit. So at this point I am not sure if there is any point in
> > > continuing down that path, but if anyone has any opinions
> > > otherwise let me know.
> > >
> > > The alternative for now is to continue to expand the current
> > > installers to additional specific platform packaging (Debian and
> > > Sun Pkg manager are frequently requested), which is something I
> > > was trying to help us avoid since maintenance and consistency of
> > > the packages requires a fair bit of time and interest, neither of
> > > which are in abundance.
> > >
> > > I have started reviewing the current installers and should have
> > > some of the current issues cleaned up by next weekend, but I can't
> > > guarantee that I have the bandwidth to learn how to create the deb
> >
> > > and Sun pkg installers any time soon so if anyone else wants to
> > > lend a hand with that it would be appreciated.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Chris
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > --
> > cordialement, regards,
> > Emmanuel Lécharny
> > www.iktek.com
> > directory.apache.org
> >
> >
> >
>
Re: Installers Update
Posted by Chris Custine <cc...@apache.org>.
Great idea Alex. I am travelling today, but I will send something to them
tonight when I get to my hotel.
Thanks,
Chris
On Jan 7, 2008 12:37 AM, Emmanuel Lecharny <el...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks Chris !
>
> yeah, I think Alex is right, we should ask legal@a.o to see if this is a
> potential problem or not.
>
> Blind guess is that if we have to include a LGPL lib to the distribution
> package, we are FU.
>
> Alex Karasulu wrote:
> > Could you run this by legal@ to see what the final verdict is?
> >
> > Alex
> >
> > On Jan 6, 2008 6:44 PM, Chris Custine <ccustine@apache.org
> > <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
> >
> > I have spoken with a few people about checking out OpenInstaller
> > in the past few weeks and I wanted to give a quick little bit of
> > information. I think the OpenInstaller project would be very cool
> > for building up some consistent cross-platform installers using a
> > single toolkit. However, while I was reviewing the licensing of
> > the dependencies this weekend, I realized that the packager embeds
> > at least one LGPL product inside the installer package (primarily
> > CHARVA which looks like the tool used to create text based
> > installers). This means that to ship installers based on this
> > toolkit, we would be shipping LGPL libs embedded in the installer
> > toolkit. So at this point I am not sure if there is any point in
> > continuing down that path, but if anyone has any opinions
> > otherwise let me know.
> >
> > The alternative for now is to continue to expand the current
> > installers to additional specific platform packaging (Debian and
> > Sun Pkg manager are frequently requested), which is something I
> > was trying to help us avoid since maintenance and consistency of
> > the packages requires a fair bit of time and interest, neither of
> > which are in abundance.
> >
> > I have started reviewing the current installers and should have
> > some of the current issues cleaned up by next weekend, but I can't
> > guarantee that I have the bandwidth to learn how to create the deb
> > and Sun pkg installers any time soon so if anyone else wants to
> > lend a hand with that it would be appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Chris
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> --
> cordialement, regards,
> Emmanuel Lécharny
> www.iktek.com
> directory.apache.org
>
>
>
Re: Installers Update
Posted by Emmanuel Lecharny <el...@gmail.com>.
Thanks Chris !
yeah, I think Alex is right, we should ask legal@a.o to see if this is a
potential problem or not.
Blind guess is that if we have to include a LGPL lib to the distribution
package, we are FU.
Alex Karasulu wrote:
> Could you run this by legal@ to see what the final verdict is?
>
> Alex
>
> On Jan 6, 2008 6:44 PM, Chris Custine <ccustine@apache.org
> <ma...@apache.org>> wrote:
>
> I have spoken with a few people about checking out OpenInstaller
> in the past few weeks and I wanted to give a quick little bit of
> information. I think the OpenInstaller project would be very cool
> for building up some consistent cross-platform installers using a
> single toolkit. However, while I was reviewing the licensing of
> the dependencies this weekend, I realized that the packager embeds
> at least one LGPL product inside the installer package (primarily
> CHARVA which looks like the tool used to create text based
> installers). This means that to ship installers based on this
> toolkit, we would be shipping LGPL libs embedded in the installer
> toolkit. So at this point I am not sure if there is any point in
> continuing down that path, but if anyone has any opinions
> otherwise let me know.
>
> The alternative for now is to continue to expand the current
> installers to additional specific platform packaging (Debian and
> Sun Pkg manager are frequently requested), which is something I
> was trying to help us avoid since maintenance and consistency of
> the packages requires a fair bit of time and interest, neither of
> which are in abundance.
>
> I have started reviewing the current installers and should have
> some of the current issues cleaned up by next weekend, but I can't
> guarantee that I have the bandwidth to learn how to create the deb
> and Sun pkg installers any time soon so if anyone else wants to
> lend a hand with that it would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Chris
>
>
--
--
cordialement, regards,
Emmanuel Lécharny
www.iktek.com
directory.apache.org
Re: Installers Update
Posted by Alex Karasulu <ak...@apache.org>.
Could you run this by legal@ to see what the final verdict is?
Alex
On Jan 6, 2008 6:44 PM, Chris Custine <cc...@apache.org> wrote:
> I have spoken with a few people about checking out OpenInstaller in the
> past few weeks and I wanted to give a quick little bit of information. I
> think the OpenInstaller project would be very cool for building up some
> consistent cross-platform installers using a single toolkit. However, while
> I was reviewing the licensing of the dependencies this weekend, I realized
> that the packager embeds at least one LGPL product inside the installer
> package (primarily CHARVA which looks like the tool used to create text
> based installers). This means that to ship installers based on this
> toolkit, we would be shipping LGPL libs embedded in the installer toolkit.
> So at this point I am not sure if there is any point in continuing down that
> path, but if anyone has any opinions otherwise let me know.
>
> The alternative for now is to continue to expand the current installers to
> additional specific platform packaging (Debian and Sun Pkg manager are
> frequently requested), which is something I was trying to help us avoid
> since maintenance and consistency of the packages requires a fair bit of
> time and interest, neither of which are in abundance.
>
> I have started reviewing the current installers and should have some of
> the current issues cleaned up by next weekend, but I can't guarantee that I
> have the bandwidth to learn how to create the deb and Sun pkg installers any
> time soon so if anyone else wants to lend a hand with that it would be
> appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Chris
>