Windows Licensing

[Dan Huynh <da...@gmail.com>]

Hi everyone,

I'm setting up VCL for our lab environment.
However, we got into the problem where our windows licences are not
enough.( I think)
I mean we have the volume licenses for Windows XP, 2003, 2008, 7....But
each key only have a limited number of activation. (around 500 activation).
If we keep activating and destroying the machines, the number of activation
will soon reach the limit.

(We get the keys from MSDN subscription.)

I remember someone using VCL said that "site licensing is a solution for
this case". However, I talked to a Microsoft sale tech, they dont offer
site licensing for Windows.

*I wonder how NC State or anyone handle this problem? What kind of license
solution that you use for Windows?*

Thanks in advance.

-- 
*Dan Huynh*
*
Cary, NC 27513*

Re: Windows Licensing

[Henry Schaffer <he...@ncsu.edu>]

While I don't know how to install/activate anything - I discussed the
licensing issues with our licensing specialist, and this it what I found
out:

In all of this we expect MS (Microsoft) to give more clarity in the coming
months.

VDA while required for remote access to MS software, is covered in many
licensing arrangements.
Student licensing is included in 365 and in the A1, A3 and A5 models which
give virtual rights for Windows OS and Office

VCL (remote virtualization) can be covered by a campus license
  e.g. Software Assurance covers this remote use - for faculty and staff
but not for students - but some other licenses do.

  There appears to be a move by MS to include students
  Will this include CCs? We don't know at this time

Note: in authorization, there are two methods MAK and KMS.
  KMS is the way to go for the VCL
  MAK has a limit on the number of activations, so each reservation in the
VCL counts against that. That limit can be reset, but the process is very
awkward.

--henry Schaffer

On Tue, Oct 30, 2018 at 4:28 PM Evelio Quiros <ev...@fiu.edu> wrote:

> Hi All,
>
>
>
> After searching through the VCL wiki, I am not finding any information on
> how the KMS windows activation works in VCL.
>
>
>
> I have entered our KMS servers in the management node (our old environment
> is version 2.3.2). However, I am not seeing Windows activations taking
> place. We often come across reservations that ask for Windows activation.
> As a temporary measure, I run “slmgr –skms” and “slmgr –ato” from the
> command line. Then the image is activated. The KMS server is accessible
> from the VCL network, but it seems that the management node does not appear
> to properly activate our Windows instances.
>
>
>
> Can someone please provide more detailed information on how the Windows
> KMS works in “vcld --setup” on the management node ?
>
> Or, perhaps you could point me to some published documentation on KMS
> Windows activation in VCL?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> -- Al Quiros
>
> Enterprise Systems
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From: *Aaron Peeler <aa...@ncsu.edu>
> *Reply-To: *"user@vcl.apache.org" <us...@vcl.apache.org>, "
> aaron_peeler@ncsu.edu" <aa...@ncsu.edu>
> *Date: *Thursday, May 23, 2013 at 3:10 PM
> *To: *"user@vcl.apache.org" <us...@vcl.apache.org>
> *Subject: *Re: Windows Licensing
>
>
>
> I think you will need a kms server to address this, but more knowledgable
> folks on windows license activation will need to confirm.
>
>
>
> We're using a kms server at NCSU.
>
>
>
> Aaron
>
>
>
> On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 2:35 PM, Dan Huynh <da...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hi everyone,
>
>
>
> I'm setting up VCL for our lab environment.
>
> However, we got into the problem where our windows licences are not
> enough.( I think)
>
> I mean we have the volume licenses for Windows XP, 2003, 2008, 7....But
> each key only have a limited number of activation. (around 500 activation).
> If we keep activating and destroying the machines, the number of activation
> will soon reach the limit.
>
>
>
> (We get the keys from MSDN subscription.)
>
>
>
> I remember someone using VCL said that "site licensing is a solution for
> this case". However, I talked to a Microsoft sale tech, they dont offer
> site licensing for Windows.
>
>
>
> *I wonder how NC State or anyone handle this problem? What kind of license
> solution that you use for Windows?*
>
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
>
>
> --
> *Dan Huynh*
>
>
> * Cary, NC 27513*
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Aaron Peeler
> Program Manager
> Virtual Computing Lab
> NC State University
>
> All electronic mail messages in connection with State business which are
> sent to or received by this account are subject to the NC Public Records
> Law and may be disclosed to third parties.
>

Re: Windows Licensing

[Evelio Quiros <ev...@fiu.edu>]

Hi All,

After searching through the VCL wiki, I am not finding any information on how the KMS windows activation works in VCL.

I have entered our KMS servers in the management node (our old environment is version 2.3.2). However, I am not seeing Windows activations taking place. We often come across reservations that ask for Windows activation. As a temporary measure, I run “slmgr –skms” and “slmgr –ato” from the command line. Then the image is activated. The KMS server is accessible from the VCL network, but it seems that the management node does not appear to properly activate our Windows instances.

Can someone please provide more detailed information on how the Windows KMS works in “vcld --setup” on the management node ?
Or, perhaps you could point me to some published documentation on KMS Windows activation in VCL?

Thanks,
-- Al Quiros
Enterprise Systems



From: Aaron Peeler <aa...@ncsu.edu>
Reply-To: "user@vcl.apache.org" <us...@vcl.apache.org>, "aaron_peeler@ncsu.edu" <aa...@ncsu.edu>
Date: Thursday, May 23, 2013 at 3:10 PM
To: "user@vcl.apache.org" <us...@vcl.apache.org>
Subject: Re: Windows Licensing

I think you will need a kms server to address this, but more knowledgable folks on windows license activation will need to confirm.

We're using a kms server at NCSU.

Aaron

On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 2:35 PM, Dan Huynh <da...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi everyone,

I'm setting up VCL for our lab environment.
However, we got into the problem where our windows licences are not enough.( I think)
I mean we have the volume licenses for Windows XP, 2003, 2008, 7....But each key only have a limited number of activation. (around 500 activation). If we keep activating and destroying the machines, the number of activation will soon reach the limit.

(We get the keys from MSDN subscription.)

I remember someone using VCL said that "site licensing is a solution for this case". However, I talked to a Microsoft sale tech, they dont offer site licensing for Windows.

I wonder how NC State or anyone handle this problem? What kind of license solution that you use for Windows?

Thanks in advance.

--
Dan Huynh

Cary, NC 27513



--
Aaron Peeler
Program Manager
Virtual Computing Lab
NC State University

All electronic mail messages in connection with State business which are sent to or received by this account are subject to the NC Public Records Law and may be disclosed to third parties.

Re: Windows Licensing

[Aaron Peeler <aa...@ncsu.edu>]

I think you will need a kms server to address this, but more knowledgable
folks on windows license activation will need to confirm.

We're using a kms server at NCSU.

Aaron


On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 2:35 PM, Dan Huynh <da...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi everyone,
>
> I'm setting up VCL for our lab environment.
> However, we got into the problem where our windows licences are not
> enough.( I think)
> I mean we have the volume licenses for Windows XP, 2003, 2008, 7....But
> each key only have a limited number of activation. (around 500 activation).
> If we keep activating and destroying the machines, the number of activation
> will soon reach the limit.
>
> (We get the keys from MSDN subscription.)
>
> I remember someone using VCL said that "site licensing is a solution for
> this case". However, I talked to a Microsoft sale tech, they dont offer
> site licensing for Windows.
>
> *I wonder how NC State or anyone handle this problem? What kind of
> license solution that you use for Windows?*
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> --
> *Dan Huynh*
> *
> Cary, NC 27513*
>



-- 
Aaron Peeler
Program Manager
Virtual Computing Lab
NC State University

All electronic mail messages in connection with State business which are
sent to or received by this account are subject to the NC Public Records
Law and may be disclosed to third parties.