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Posted to dev@openoffice.apache.org by Kayo Hamid <kh...@gmail.com> on 2012/05/18 22:52:04 UTC
[DISCUSS] Remove old bugs.
>From ooo-qa. We can see a lot old bugs on issues.apache.org. Can we begin
removing? It's a key thing for project? I volunteer to this.
Eg, https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=4549 (10 years old)
--
Kayo Hamid
Re: [DISCUSS] Remove old bugs.
Posted by "Marcus (OOo)" <ma...@wtnet.de>.
Am 05/19/2012 12:36 AM, schrieb Raphael Bircher:
> Am 19.05.12 00:19, schrieb Marcus (OOo):
>> Am 05/18/2012 11:55 PM, schrieb Raphael Bircher:
>>> Am 18.05.12 22:52, schrieb Kayo Hamid:
>>>> From ooo-qa. We can see a lot old bugs on issues.apache.org. Can we
>>>> begin
>>>> removing? It's a key thing for project? I volunteer to this.
>>>>
>>>> Eg, https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=4549 (10 years old)
>>>>
>>> The age of the bug does not automaticly mean that they are solved. If
>>> they are CONFIRMED you can recheck them. Sametimes the are realy solved,
>>> but the moast are still valid issues. Same issues we can cloase, for
>>> exemple if they are Win98 only or so.
>>>
>>> Unconfirmed issues who are older then 2 years we can realy close I
>>> think.
>>>
>>> Greetings Raphael
>>>
>>> PS: Welcome to the black hole Bugzilla ;-)
>>
>> In general closing bugs because they are simply too old is a clear -1
>> for me.
>>
>> Of course, only a closed bug is a good bug. But you need a good reason
>> for closing them. The reasons are given as resolved status in BZ. I
>> don't see "Closed, Too Old" there. ;-)
> I said UNCONFIRMED, not every bug. They stey moastly unconfirmed because
> no one was able to reproduce it. And so it was maybe a crapt system or
> so. I normaly short read the bug, and than deside to close ore not.
> Sametimes there are also comments like "please add more informations",
> or samething like that. If there is no answare I close the bug often
> with a comment like "We missing the addidional informations, so I wil
> close the bug now. feel free to reopen it or create a new one."
>
> Confirmed bugs you should handle much more carefull, because they are
> moastly valid issues.
Of course your are right. I think I've taken the wrong posting for my
reply. Sorry.
>> So, please try to check first if the issue:
>> - is already solved
>> - is no longer relevant due to license and therefore code change
>> - is not reproducible with its problem description
>> - is invalid as it's no real bug report, etc.
> +1
>
> Greetings Raphael
Marcus
Re: [DISCUSS] Remove old bugs.
Posted by Raphael Bircher <rb...@apache.org>.
Am 19.05.12 00:19, schrieb Marcus (OOo):
> Am 05/18/2012 11:55 PM, schrieb Raphael Bircher:
>> Am 18.05.12 22:52, schrieb Kayo Hamid:
>>> From ooo-qa. We can see a lot old bugs on issues.apache.org. Can we
>>> begin
>>> removing? It's a key thing for project? I volunteer to this.
>>>
>>> Eg, https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=4549 (10 years old)
>>>
>> The age of the bug does not automaticly mean that they are solved. If
>> they are CONFIRMED you can recheck them. Sametimes the are realy solved,
>> but the moast are still valid issues. Same issues we can cloase, for
>> exemple if they are Win98 only or so.
>>
>> Unconfirmed issues who are older then 2 years we can realy close I
>> think.
>>
>> Greetings Raphael
>>
>> PS: Welcome to the black hole Bugzilla ;-)
>
> In general closing bugs because they are simply too old is a clear -1
> for me.
>
> Of course, only a closed bug is a good bug. But you need a good reason
> for closing them. The reasons are given as resolved status in BZ. I
> don't see "Closed, Too Old" there. ;-)
I said UNCONFIRMED, not every bug. They stey moastly unconfirmed because
no one was able to reproduce it. And so it was maybe a crapt system or
so. I normaly short read the bug, and than deside to close ore not.
Sametimes there are also comments like "please add more informations",
or samething like that. If there is no answare I close the bug often
with a comment like "We missing the addidional informations, so I wil
close the bug now. feel free to reopen it or create a new one."
Confirmed bugs you should handle much more carefull, because they are
moastly valid issues.
>
> So, please try to check first if the issue:
> - is already solved
> - is no longer relevant due to license and therefore code change
> - is not reproducible with its problem description
> - is invalid as it's no real bug report, etc.
+1
Greetings Raphael
Re: [DISCUSS] Remove old bugs.
Posted by "Marcus (OOo)" <ma...@wtnet.de>.
Am 05/18/2012 11:55 PM, schrieb Raphael Bircher:
> Am 18.05.12 22:52, schrieb Kayo Hamid:
>> From ooo-qa. We can see a lot old bugs on issues.apache.org. Can we begin
>> removing? It's a key thing for project? I volunteer to this.
>>
>> Eg, https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=4549 (10 years old)
>>
> The age of the bug does not automaticly mean that they are solved. If
> they are CONFIRMED you can recheck them. Sametimes the are realy solved,
> but the moast are still valid issues. Same issues we can cloase, for
> exemple if they are Win98 only or so.
>
> Unconfirmed issues who are older then 2 years we can realy close I think.
>
> Greetings Raphael
>
> PS: Welcome to the black hole Bugzilla ;-)
In general closing bugs because they are simply too old is a clear -1
for me.
Of course, only a closed bug is a good bug. But you need a good reason
for closing them. The reasons are given as resolved status in BZ. I
don't see "Closed, Too Old" there. ;-)
So, please try to check first if the issue:
- is already solved
- is no longer relevant due to license and therefore code change
- is not reproducible with its problem description
- is invalid as it's no real bug report, etc.
My 2 ct.
Marcus
Re: [DISCUSS] Remove old bugs.
Posted by Raphael Bircher <rb...@apache.org>.
Am 19.05.12 00:25, schrieb Kayo Hamid:
> The age of the bug does not automaticly mean that they are solved. If
>
>> they are CONFIRMED you can recheck them. Sametimes the are realy solved,
>> but the moast are still valid issues. Same issues we can cloase, for
>> exemple if they are Win98 only or so.
>>
>> Unconfirmed issues who are older then 2 years we can realy close I think.
>>
>> Greetings Raphael
>>
>> PS: Welcome to the black hole Bugzilla ;-)
>>
> Sure. Is not my intent to close anything only because they are old. My goal
> is to recheck these old cases and see what we can close. The 4549 is
> something that I believe we can close.
>
> And of course I do not will do it alone, I will get response from many
> users i can.
I beleve ML is realy not the right place to discouss OOo Bugs. There are
simply too much of it. Generaly you can do it alone, but sametimes you
feel more comfortable to have a feedback from same other people. For
this IRC is realy a good tool. you can discouss there without problem,
and without spaming the list.
Greetings Raphael
Re: [DISCUSS] Remove old bugs.
Posted by Albino Biasutti Neto <bi...@gmail.com>.
Hi Kayo. :)
2012/5/18 Kayo Hamid <kh...@gmail.com>
>
> When you really start this - alone or together with others - I think you
>> will have the deepest respect from all of us as this is really hard work.
>>
>> Marcus
>>
>
> Ok, thanks for all comments, I will take it with me to improve my skills
> on this task ;-)
>
>
Good idea and also strategic.
You'll get more people willing to help.
Albino
Re: [DISCUSS] Remove old bugs.
Posted by Kayo Hamid <kh...@gmail.com>.
> When you really start this - alone or together with others - I think
> you will have the deepest respect from all of us as this is really
> hard work.
>
> Marcus
Ok, thanks for all comments, I will take it with me to improve my skills
on this task ;-)
Kayo Hamid.
Re: [DISCUSS] Remove old bugs.
Posted by "Marcus (OOo)" <ma...@wtnet.de>.
Am 05/19/2012 12:25 AM, schrieb Kayo Hamid:
> The age of the bug does not automaticly mean that they are solved. If
>
>> they are CONFIRMED you can recheck them. Sametimes the are realy solved,
>> but the moast are still valid issues. Same issues we can cloase, for
>> exemple if they are Win98 only or so.
>>
>> Unconfirmed issues who are older then 2 years we can realy close I think.
>>
>> Greetings Raphael
>>
>> PS: Welcome to the black hole Bugzilla ;-)
>>
>
> Sure. Is not my intent to close anything only because they are old. My goal
> is to recheck these old cases and see what we can close. The 4549 is
> something that I believe we can close.
Please a look for the latest comment from Regina. Maybe it makes a
difference which locale you are using as for her the bug is still there.
> And of course I do not will do it alone, I will get response from many
> users i can.
>
> Thanks!
When you really start this - alone or together with others - I think you
will have the deepest respect from all of us as this is really hard work.
Marcus
Re: [DISCUSS] Remove old bugs.
Posted by Kayo Hamid <kh...@gmail.com>.
The age of the bug does not automaticly mean that they are solved. If
> they are CONFIRMED you can recheck them. Sametimes the are realy solved,
> but the moast are still valid issues. Same issues we can cloase, for
> exemple if they are Win98 only or so.
>
> Unconfirmed issues who are older then 2 years we can realy close I think.
>
> Greetings Raphael
>
> PS: Welcome to the black hole Bugzilla ;-)
>
Sure. Is not my intent to close anything only because they are old. My goal
is to recheck these old cases and see what we can close. The 4549 is
something that I believe we can close.
And of course I do not will do it alone, I will get response from many
users i can.
Thanks!
--
Kayo Hamid
Re: [DISCUSS] Remove old bugs.
Posted by Raphael Bircher <rb...@apache.org>.
Am 18.05.12 22:52, schrieb Kayo Hamid:
> From ooo-qa. We can see a lot old bugs on issues.apache.org. Can we begin
> removing? It's a key thing for project? I volunteer to this.
>
> Eg, https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=4549 (10 years old)
>
The age of the bug does not automaticly mean that they are solved. If
they are CONFIRMED you can recheck them. Sametimes the are realy solved,
but the moast are still valid issues. Same issues we can cloase, for
exemple if they are Win98 only or so.
Unconfirmed issues who are older then 2 years we can realy close I think.
Greetings Raphael
PS: Welcome to the black hole Bugzilla ;-)
Re: [DISCUSS] Remove old bugs.
Posted by Paulo de Souza Lima <pa...@varekai.org>.
2012/5/18 Pedro Giffuni <pf...@apache.org>
> On 05/18/12 15:52, Kayo Hamid wrote:
>
>> From ooo-qa. We can see a lot old bugs on issues.apache.org. Can we
>> begin
>> removing? It's a key thing for project? I volunteer to this.
>>
>> Eg, https://issues.apache.org/ooo/**show_bug.cgi?id=4549<https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=4549>(10 years old)
>>
>> +1
>
I would say it's strategic.
--
Paulo de Souza Lima
http://almalivre.wordpress.com
Curitiba - PR
Linux User #432358
Ubuntu User #28729
Re: [DISCUSS] Remove old bugs.
Posted by Pedro Giffuni <pf...@apache.org>.
On 05/18/12 15:52, Kayo Hamid wrote:
> From ooo-qa. We can see a lot old bugs on issues.apache.org. Can we begin
> removing? It's a key thing for project? I volunteer to this.
>
> Eg, https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=4549 (10 years old)
>
+1