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[HELP] Explicit text alignment in wikis?

Can anyone explain what does "Explicit text alignment" mean, exactly?
Does it mean that all text paragraphs have the same alignment in Wiki
articles?
Thanks, Tal.

Full string: "Explicit text alignment should not be used in Wiki articles.
Nevertheless, text alignment is supported for left, centered, and right
alignment of text." (ref.
https://translate.apache.org/he/aoo40/translate/swext/mediawiki/help.po#unit=14877896
)

Re: [HELP] Explicit text alignment in wikis?

Posted by Tal Daniel <ta...@gmail.com>.
In that case, Nikolai may be right, after all :)
Thanks Rob, Nikolai.


On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 2:52 PM, Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org> wrote:

> On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 6:27 AM, Tal Daniel <ta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Thanks Nikolai, you mean justified alignment.
> > Any other opinions by other members, what "Explicit text alignment"
> means?
> >
>
> That would be an odd way to express this in English.
>
> When I think of "explicit text alignment" I think of alignment that
> happens because you explicitly set left/right/center alignment using
> the toolbar.  You set alignment explicitly for a text selection.
>
> The opposite (implicit alignment) would be to define alignment as part
> of a style definition.
>
> Note:  I don't know if this is what this string means in the product,
> but that would be the typical meaning.  But as we know the English
> strings in AOO are sometimes written by non-native English speakers.
>
> Regards,
>
> -Rob
>
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 3:33 PM, Николай Нинков <ni...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> I think here they have given meaning "full text alignment", alignment on
> >> both sides - left and right.
> >>
> >>
> >> 2014-03-17 14:27 GMT+02:00 Tal Daniel <ta...@gmail.com>:
> >>
> >> > Can anyone explain what does "Explicit text alignment" mean, exactly?
> >> > Does it mean that all text paragraphs have the same alignment in Wiki
> >> > articles?
> >> > Thanks, Tal.
> >> >
> >> > Full string: "Explicit text alignment should not be used in Wiki
> >> articles.
> >> > Nevertheless, text alignment is supported for left, centered, and
> right
> >> > alignment of text." (ref.
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> https://translate.apache.org/he/aoo40/translate/swext/mediawiki/help.po#unit=14877896
> >> > )
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > טל
>
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Re: [HELP] Explicit text alignment in wikis?

Posted by Tal Daniel <ta...@gmail.com>.
Thank you Andrea, Rob, Nikolai. I'll randomly pick an explanation :)


On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 9:20 PM, Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org>wrote:

> Rob Weir wrote:
>
>> When I think of "explicit text alignment" I think of alignment that
>> happens because you explicitly set left/right/center alignment using
>> the toolbar.  You set alignment explicitly for a text selection.
>>
>
> I interpret it the same way: the sentence means that it is bad practice to
> set a paragraph's alignment (left, center, or right; but also justified for
> that matter) by specifying the corresponding HTML or Wiki markup code. This
> is best let to the Wiki engine, so it's better not to specify it in the
> page.
>
> That said, I'm not sure of the status of the Mediawiki extension; I never
> used it, but I'm not even sure that we still bundle it, or maybe we bundle
> it as an optional component, didn't check.
>
> Regards,
>   Andrea.
>
>
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Re: [HELP] Explicit text alignment in wikis?

Posted by Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org>.
Rob Weir wrote:
> When I think of "explicit text alignment" I think of alignment that
> happens because you explicitly set left/right/center alignment using
> the toolbar.  You set alignment explicitly for a text selection.

I interpret it the same way: the sentence means that it is bad practice 
to set a paragraph's alignment (left, center, or right; but also 
justified for that matter) by specifying the corresponding HTML or Wiki 
markup code. This is best let to the Wiki engine, so it's better not to 
specify it in the page.

That said, I'm not sure of the status of the Mediawiki extension; I 
never used it, but I'm not even sure that we still bundle it, or maybe 
we bundle it as an optional component, didn't check.

Regards,
   Andrea.

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Re: [HELP] Explicit text alignment in wikis?

Posted by Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org>.
On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 6:27 AM, Tal Daniel <ta...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks Nikolai, you mean justified alignment.
> Any other opinions by other members, what "Explicit text alignment" means?
>

That would be an odd way to express this in English.

When I think of "explicit text alignment" I think of alignment that
happens because you explicitly set left/right/center alignment using
the toolbar.  You set alignment explicitly for a text selection.

The opposite (implicit alignment) would be to define alignment as part
of a style definition.

Note:  I don't know if this is what this string means in the product,
but that would be the typical meaning.  But as we know the English
strings in AOO are sometimes written by non-native English speakers.

Regards,

-Rob

>
> On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 3:33 PM, Николай Нинков <ni...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I think here they have given meaning "full text alignment", alignment on
>> both sides - left and right.
>>
>>
>> 2014-03-17 14:27 GMT+02:00 Tal Daniel <ta...@gmail.com>:
>>
>> > Can anyone explain what does "Explicit text alignment" mean, exactly?
>> > Does it mean that all text paragraphs have the same alignment in Wiki
>> > articles?
>> > Thanks, Tal.
>> >
>> > Full string: "Explicit text alignment should not be used in Wiki
>> articles.
>> > Nevertheless, text alignment is supported for left, centered, and right
>> > alignment of text." (ref.
>> >
>> >
>> https://translate.apache.org/he/aoo40/translate/swext/mediawiki/help.po#unit=14877896
>> > )
>> >
>>
>
>
>
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> טל

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Re: [HELP] Explicit text alignment in wikis?

Posted by Tal Daniel <ta...@gmail.com>.
Thanks Nikolai, you mean justified alignment.
Any other opinions by other members, what "Explicit text alignment" means?


On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 3:33 PM, Николай Нинков <ni...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I think here they have given meaning "full text alignment", alignment on
> both sides - left and right.
>
>
> 2014-03-17 14:27 GMT+02:00 Tal Daniel <ta...@gmail.com>:
>
> > Can anyone explain what does "Explicit text alignment" mean, exactly?
> > Does it mean that all text paragraphs have the same alignment in Wiki
> > articles?
> > Thanks, Tal.
> >
> > Full string: "Explicit text alignment should not be used in Wiki
> articles.
> > Nevertheless, text alignment is supported for left, centered, and right
> > alignment of text." (ref.
> >
> >
> https://translate.apache.org/he/aoo40/translate/swext/mediawiki/help.po#unit=14877896
> > )
> >
>



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Re: [HELP] Explicit text alignment in wikis?

Posted by Николай Нинков <ni...@gmail.com>.
I think here they have given meaning "full text alignment", alignment on
both sides - left and right.


2014-03-17 14:27 GMT+02:00 Tal Daniel <ta...@gmail.com>:

> Can anyone explain what does "Explicit text alignment" mean, exactly?
> Does it mean that all text paragraphs have the same alignment in Wiki
> articles?
> Thanks, Tal.
>
> Full string: "Explicit text alignment should not be used in Wiki articles.
> Nevertheless, text alignment is supported for left, centered, and right
> alignment of text." (ref.
>
> https://translate.apache.org/he/aoo40/translate/swext/mediawiki/help.po#unit=14877896
> )
>