DRaaS based on ACS

[Adrian Lewis <ad...@alsiconsulting.co.uk>]

Hi All,



We’re currently looking into the possibility of creating a DR as a service
offering for our customers based on ACS. I’m assuming that trying to create
a fully open source solution is not feasible and am looking to evaluate
Vision Solutions’ Double-Take Cloud Protection and Recovery product. I’m
wondering if anyone knows of any other solutions that would work nicely
with ACS (i.e. client self-service, handling the import of a VM into ACS,
WAN ‘optimised’ communications etc).



>From what I can tell, the main problem with most commercial solutions is
that they assume that they have direct control of the hypervisors,
bypassing ACS completely, and as such would result in creating a VM that
ACS would then not be able to see or therefore manage. They also seem to
assume that there’s a private network between the source and target systems
which can be an issue with multi-tenancy and overlapping IPs between
tenants. I’m initially looking for Xenserver support as well which seems to
be the ugly duckling when it comes to backup and replication – most of the
commercial solutions concentrate on VMware and then Hyper-V.



Does anyone have any experience with either the Double-Take or any other
solutions that they’d care to share? Anyone know of any yet-to-be-released
solutions that might fit the bill?



Many thanks,



Adrian

Re: DRaaS based on ACS

[te...@frontier.in]

Hi Adrin,

   Vision solutions Double-take solution can works on agent base also 
where you don't need VRA. so you can create VM in ACS and install agent in 
it. then you can start replication but still there can be complications if 
you are using advanced networking and IP NAT. 

   We have also done some research in the same area and we have found that 
currently not any replication tool support cloudstack or any open source 
orchestration. Veeam has a solution for integration for service provider 
with VMware. the same veeam model is been devloped by Avnet BaaS 
offerings.

   Let us know if you can find any solution for cloudstack.

Thanks and regards,
Tejas Sheth
+919844244247




From:   Adrian Lewis <ad...@alsiconsulting.co.uk>
To:     users@cloudstack.apache.org
Date:   09/10/2014 04:29 PM
Subject:        DRaaS based on ACS



Hi All,



We’re currently looking into the possibility of creating a DR as a service
offering for our customers based on ACS. I’m assuming that trying to 
create
a fully open source solution is not feasible and am looking to evaluate
Vision Solutions’ Double-Take Cloud Protection and Recovery product. I’m
wondering if anyone knows of any other solutions that would work nicely
with ACS (i.e. client self-service, handling the import of a VM into ACS,
WAN ‘optimised’ communications etc).



From what I can tell, the main problem with most commercial solutions is
that they assume that they have direct control of the hypervisors,
bypassing ACS completely, and as such would result in creating a VM that
ACS would then not be able to see or therefore manage. They also seem to
assume that there’s a private network between the source and target 
systems
which can be an issue with multi-tenancy and overlapping IPs between
tenants. I’m initially looking for Xenserver support as well which seems 
to
be the ugly duckling when it comes to backup and replication – most of the
commercial solutions concentrate on VMware and then Hyper-V.



Does anyone have any experience with either the Double-Take or any other
solutions that they’d care to share? Anyone know of any yet-to-be-released
solutions that might fit the bill?



Many thanks,



Adrian

RE: DRaaS based on ACS

[Adrian Lewis <ad...@alsiconsulting.co.uk>]

Hi Ilya,

No - I'm referring to DRaaS - nothing to do with DR for ACS itself. The
Double-Take CP&R is software we can install within the Cloudstack
environment to offer DR and replication services to clients that are not
running ACS. Just wondering if anyone else had other options that they've
tried/installed.

Thanks for the reply anyway.

Adrian

-----Original Message-----
From: ilya musayev [mailto:ilya.mailing.lists@gmail.com]
Sent: 10 September 2014 14:56
To: users@cloudstack.apache.org
Subject: Re: DRaaS based on ACS

Adrian,

If i understand the task correctly, you are trying to have replica sets
across datacenters with ACS functional.

I can think of a solution that does not require heavy investment.

1) you replicate the VM disk content across to datacenter X
2) you replicate db content from cloudstack, you can just fetch the content
from ACS via APIs and re-load the content into secondary ACS.

Alena from Citrix explained how she did it @ CCNA14 in Denver.

3) needless to say, you IP between datacenters will change, so VMs should
know how to handle that change

regards
ilya

On 9/10/14, 7:10 AM, Adrian Lewis wrote:
> Hi All,
>
>
>
> We’re currently looking into the possibility of creating a DR as a
> service offering for our customers based on ACS. I’m assuming that
> trying to create a fully open source solution is not feasible and am
> looking to evaluate Vision Solutions’ Double-Take Cloud Protection and
> Recovery product. I’m wondering if anyone knows of any other solutions
> that would work nicely with ACS (i.e. client self-service, handling
> the import of a VM into ACS, WAN ‘optimised’ communications etc).
>
>
>
>  From what I can tell, the main problem with most commercial solutions
> is that they assume that they have direct control of the hypervisors,
> bypassing ACS completely, and as such would result in creating a VM
> that ACS would then not be able to see or therefore manage. They also
> seem to assume that there’s a private network between the source and
> target systems which can be an issue with multi-tenancy and
> overlapping IPs between tenants. I’m initially looking for Xenserver
> support as well which seems to be the ugly duckling when it comes to
> backup and replication – most of the commercial solutions concentrate on
> VMware and then Hyper-V.
>
>
>
> Does anyone have any experience with either the Double-Take or any
> other solutions that they’d care to share? Anyone know of any
> yet-to-be-released solutions that might fit the bill?
>
>
>
> Many thanks,
>
>
>
> Adrian
>

Re: DRaaS based on ACS

[ilya musayev <il...@gmail.com>]

Adrian,

If i understand the task correctly, you are trying to have replica sets 
across datacenters with ACS functional.

I can think of a solution that does not require heavy investment.

1) you replicate the VM disk content across to datacenter X
2) you replicate db content from cloudstack, you can just fetch the 
content from ACS via APIs and re-load the content into secondary ACS.

Alena from Citrix explained how she did it @ CCNA14 in Denver.

3) needless to say, you IP between datacenters will change, so VMs 
should know how to handle that change

regards
ilya

On 9/10/14, 7:10 AM, Adrian Lewis wrote:
> Hi All,
>
>
>
> We’re currently looking into the possibility of creating a DR as a service
> offering for our customers based on ACS. I’m assuming that trying to create
> a fully open source solution is not feasible and am looking to evaluate
> Vision Solutions’ Double-Take Cloud Protection and Recovery product. I’m
> wondering if anyone knows of any other solutions that would work nicely
> with ACS (i.e. client self-service, handling the import of a VM into ACS,
> WAN ‘optimised’ communications etc).
>
>
>
>  From what I can tell, the main problem with most commercial solutions is
> that they assume that they have direct control of the hypervisors,
> bypassing ACS completely, and as such would result in creating a VM that
> ACS would then not be able to see or therefore manage. They also seem to
> assume that there’s a private network between the source and target systems
> which can be an issue with multi-tenancy and overlapping IPs between
> tenants. I’m initially looking for Xenserver support as well which seems to
> be the ugly duckling when it comes to backup and replication – most of the
> commercial solutions concentrate on VMware and then Hyper-V.
>
>
>
> Does anyone have any experience with either the Double-Take or any other
> solutions that they’d care to share? Anyone know of any yet-to-be-released
> solutions that might fit the bill?
>
>
>
> Many thanks,
>
>
>
> Adrian
>