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Posted to dev@tomee.apache.org by Karan Malhi <ka...@gmail.com> on 2012/04/17 22:54:30 UTC

irc tomee or openejb

Hi,
Currently on irc if somebody wants to join #tomee, they get redirected to
#openejb. Personally, I'd prefer the reverse i.e. #tomee being the primary
IRC channel. So if somebody joins #openejb they get redirected to #tomee.
It also gives us the opportunity to have a nice welcome message for folks
like "Welcome to TomEE - A pure Tomcat based Java EE 6 web profile
certified server". Just another little thing to help spread the word.
What does everybody else think?
-- 

Karan Singh Malhi
twitter.com/KaranSinghMalhi

Re: irc tomee or openejb

Posted by Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>.
+1

maybe we can add it to the main page too?

"join us on #openejb" ?

- Romain


2012/4/18 Mohammad Nour El-Din <no...@gmail.com>

> Hi...
>
> On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 12:11 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau
> <rm...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > you look openejb build -> you are notified when you break tomee.
> >
>
> Sorry to work like a police here :D, but I think we are getting of the
> topic now and drifter over to code re-org which I think it would be better
> to move to another thread and discuss it there thoroughly.
>
> So back to the IRC channels, I think people always look this information up
> from the web and hence we already have this information on out web-site
> with which we can direct users to that our IRC channel is #openejb for both
> openejb abd TomEE and also we can add that to the channel header/welcome
> message so it is also obvious to users when they join the channel
>
>
> >
> > - Romain
> >
> >
> > 2012/4/18 Jean-Louis MONTEIRO <je...@gmail.com>
> >
> > > AFAIR, most of builds are in Jenckins, so we are free to fire a build
> > each
> > > time openjpa, openwebbeans, .... is built. Right ?
> > >
> > > Regarding that issue, what does the current situation brings?
> > >
> > > Jean-Louis
> > >
> > >
> > > Le 18 avril 2012 12:00, Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com> a
> > > écrit :
> > >
> > > > No, buildbot does it too.
> > > >
> > > > The issue is not techinical but human. Does openwebbeans users look
> > tomee
> > > > snapshot? mainly no beacuse that's not their build. That's the issue.
> > > >
> > > > Well i'm not opposed to separate both since i follow both, just i
> > wanted
> > > > you to note braking a consistent project in several subproject can
> lead
> > > to
> > > > some weird builds.
> > > >
> > > > Note: we could do subproject for arquillian, maven and utilities too.
> > > >
> > > > - Romain
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 2012/4/18 Jean-Louis MONTEIRO <je...@gmail.com>
> > > >
> > > > > Romain,
> > > > >
> > > > > I guess we now have a jenckins project for OpenEJB.
> > > > >
> > > > > Isn't it a good way to manage dependencies between builds?
> > > > > That could solve the issue you mentioned?
> > > > >
> > > > > JLouis
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Le 18 avril 2012 11:42, Mohammad Nour El-Din <
> > nour.mohammad@gmail.com>
> > > a
> > > > > écrit :
> > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 11:33 AM, Romain Manni-Bucau
> > > > > > <rm...@gmail.com>wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > it is not a technical issue,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > if there are 2 trunks there are 2 CI builds and we always have
> to
> > > > watch
> > > > > > > both. That's the issue IMO. Typically an openejb dev who don't
> > care
> > > > > about
> > > > > > > tomee can break tomee easily if we separate both. Today
> buildbot
> > > will
> > > > > > shoot
> > > > > > > after him.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Build bot can still shoot after him/her when TomEE is built with
> > the
> > > > > latest
> > > > > > OpenEJB code, but as you said this is not the main issue here
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So we should make up our minds :), do we need a [VOTE] ?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > - Romain
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 2012/4/18 Mohammad Nour El-Din <no...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 10:53 AM, Romain Manni-Bucau
> > > > > > > > <rm...@gmail.com>wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > no but there are integration issues (lib conflicts, how is
> it
> > > > > > > integrated
> > > > > > > > > etc) which are different.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > One drawback of keeping tomee in openejb is the size of the
> > > > build.
> > > > > > One
> > > > > > > > pro
> > > > > > > > > is the buil dis consistent.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Oh, now I get it, but in that regard we can do like what
> > > Jackrabbit
> > > > > > did,
> > > > > > > so
> > > > > > > > mainly you have a repo like this:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > <REPO_ROOT>
> > > > > > > >  /trunk
> > > > > > > >  /tags
> > > > > > > >  /branches
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > what they did for Oak, which is a new approach for Jackrabbit
> > and
> > > > > > hence a
> > > > > > > > new project, they created a sub repos, like this
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > <REPO_ROOT>
> > > > > > > >  /trunk
> > > > > > > >  /tags
> > > > > > > >  /branches
> > > > > > > >  /oak
> > > > > > > >  ../trunk
> > > > > > > >  ../tags
> > > > > > > >  ../branches
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > In that regard we can manage each of OpenEJB and TomEE
> > > separately,
> > > > > > > thoughts
> > > > > > > > ?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > - Romain
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 2012/4/18 Mohammad Nour El-Din <no...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 10:43 AM, Jean-Louis MONTEIRO <
> > > > > > > > > jeanouii@gmail.com
> > > > > > > > > > >wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I guess in a ideal world, that'd be better to have
> Apache
> > > > TomEE
> > > > > > > has a
> > > > > > > > > Top
> > > > > > > > > > > Project in Apache.
> > > > > > > > > > > But it also has side effects and negative points
> > > > (dependencies
> > > > > > when
> > > > > > > > > > > releasing ...).
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Is there a lot of differences between OpenEJB
> > > > > (Embdeded/Standalone)
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > TomEE ?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > JLouis
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Le 18 avril 2012 10:14, Romain Manni-Bucau <
> > > > > > rmannibucau@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > > > écrit :
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > same idea:
> > > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENEJBwhy
> > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > tomee
> > > > > > > > > > > > everywhere (name of the page, title...)?
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > - Romain
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > 2012/4/18 Jean-Louis MONTEIRO <je...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > +1 with Mohammad and Romain.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > JLouis
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Le 18 avril 2012 01:25, Mohammad Nour El-Din <
> > > > > > > > > > nour.mohammad@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > écrit :
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 1:05 AM, David Blevins <
> > > > > > > > > > > > david.blevins@gmail.com
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Was just in reference to which IRC channel to
> > use,
> > > > > #tomee
> > > > > > > or
> > > > > > > > > > > #openejb
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I know :), the question was more for building a
> > case
> > > > of a
> > > > > > > > > statement
> > > > > > > > > > > :).
> > > > > > > > > > > > > For
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > me I am in favor of OpenEJB cause thats the
> origin
> > > and
> > > > > who
> > > > > > > > knows
> > > > > > > > > > > about
> > > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > future, more specifically with the cloud addition
> > to
> > > > JEE
> > > > > 7
> > > > > > we
> > > > > > > > may
> > > > > > > > > > > come
> > > > > > > > > > > > up
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > with another packaging and give it another name
> but
> > > > still
> > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > will
> > > > > > > > > > be
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > OpenEJB.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Apr 17, 2012, at 3:51 PM, Mohammad Nour
> El-Din
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Are we talking about project names or users
> > > > > interests.
> > > > > > > > Cause
> > > > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > first
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > place they go to openejb.apache.org
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I believe OpenEJB should be the main name,
> > TomEE
> > > is
> > > > > > just
> > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > name
> > > > > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > one
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > OpenEJB packaging which implements the
> > > WebProfile,
> > > > so
> > > > > > it
> > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > > still
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > OpenEJB.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thats my 2 cents.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 11:25 PM, Romain
> > > > Manni-Bucau
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <rm...@gmail.com>wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Tomee and openejb redirecting to
> > tomee-openejb?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> I know eveybody likes tomee but openejb
> > shouldnt
> > > > be
> > > > > > > > > forgotten
> > > > > > > > > > > IMO.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> - Romain
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Le 17 avr. 2012 22:54, "Karan Malhi" <
> > > > > > > > karan.malhi@gmail.com
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > > > > > écrit
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > :
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Hi,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Currently on irc if somebody wants to join
> > > > #tomee,
> > > > > > they
> > > > > > > > get
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > redirected
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> #openejb. Personally, I'd prefer the
> reverse
> > > i.e.
> > > > > > > #tomee
> > > > > > > > > > being
> > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> primary
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> IRC channel. So if somebody joins #openejb
> > they
> > > > get
> > > > > > > > > > redirected
> > > > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > #tomee.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> It also gives us the opportunity to have a
> > nice
> > > > > > welcome
> > > > > > > > > > message
> > > > > > > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > folks
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> like "Welcome to TomEE - A pure Tomcat
> based
> > > Java
> > > > > EE
> > > > > > 6
> > > > > > > > web
> > > > > > > > > > > > profile
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> certified server". Just another little
> thing
> > to
> > > > > help
> > > > > > > > spread
> > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > word.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> What does everybody else think?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> --
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Karan Singh Malhi
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> twitter.com/KaranSinghMalhi
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Mohammad Nour
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your
> > > > balance
> > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > must
> > > > > > > > > > > keep
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > moving"
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Albert Einstein
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Mohammad Nour
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your
> > balance
> > > > you
> > > > > > must
> > > > > > > > > keep
> > > > > > > > > > > > > moving"
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Albert Einstein
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > > > > - Mohammad Nour
> > > > > > > > > > ----
> > > > > > > > > > "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you
> > must
> > > > > keep
> > > > > > > > > moving"
> > > > > > > > > > - Albert Einstein
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > > - Mohammad Nour
> > > > > > > > ----
> > > > > > > > "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must
> > > keep
> > > > > > > moving"
> > > > > > > > - Albert Einstein
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > - Mohammad Nour
> > > > > > ----
> > > > > > "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must
> keep
> > > > > moving"
> > > > > > - Albert Einstein
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Thanks
> - Mohammad Nour
> ----
> "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving"
> - Albert Einstein
>

Re: irc tomee or openejb

Posted by Mohammad Nour El-Din <no...@gmail.com>.
Hi...

On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 12:11 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau
<rm...@gmail.com>wrote:

> you look openejb build -> you are notified when you break tomee.
>

Sorry to work like a police here :D, but I think we are getting of the
topic now and drifter over to code re-org which I think it would be better
to move to another thread and discuss it there thoroughly.

So back to the IRC channels, I think people always look this information up
from the web and hence we already have this information on out web-site
with which we can direct users to that our IRC channel is #openejb for both
openejb abd TomEE and also we can add that to the channel header/welcome
message so it is also obvious to users when they join the channel


>
> - Romain
>
>
> 2012/4/18 Jean-Louis MONTEIRO <je...@gmail.com>
>
> > AFAIR, most of builds are in Jenckins, so we are free to fire a build
> each
> > time openjpa, openwebbeans, .... is built. Right ?
> >
> > Regarding that issue, what does the current situation brings?
> >
> > Jean-Louis
> >
> >
> > Le 18 avril 2012 12:00, Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com> a
> > écrit :
> >
> > > No, buildbot does it too.
> > >
> > > The issue is not techinical but human. Does openwebbeans users look
> tomee
> > > snapshot? mainly no beacuse that's not their build. That's the issue.
> > >
> > > Well i'm not opposed to separate both since i follow both, just i
> wanted
> > > you to note braking a consistent project in several subproject can lead
> > to
> > > some weird builds.
> > >
> > > Note: we could do subproject for arquillian, maven and utilities too.
> > >
> > > - Romain
> > >
> > >
> > > 2012/4/18 Jean-Louis MONTEIRO <je...@gmail.com>
> > >
> > > > Romain,
> > > >
> > > > I guess we now have a jenckins project for OpenEJB.
> > > >
> > > > Isn't it a good way to manage dependencies between builds?
> > > > That could solve the issue you mentioned?
> > > >
> > > > JLouis
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Le 18 avril 2012 11:42, Mohammad Nour El-Din <
> nour.mohammad@gmail.com>
> > a
> > > > écrit :
> > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 11:33 AM, Romain Manni-Bucau
> > > > > <rm...@gmail.com>wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > it is not a technical issue,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > if there are 2 trunks there are 2 CI builds and we always have to
> > > watch
> > > > > > both. That's the issue IMO. Typically an openejb dev who don't
> care
> > > > about
> > > > > > tomee can break tomee easily if we separate both. Today buildbot
> > will
> > > > > shoot
> > > > > > after him.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Build bot can still shoot after him/her when TomEE is built with
> the
> > > > latest
> > > > > OpenEJB code, but as you said this is not the main issue here
> > > > >
> > > > > So we should make up our minds :), do we need a [VOTE] ?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > - Romain
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 2012/4/18 Mohammad Nour El-Din <no...@gmail.com>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 10:53 AM, Romain Manni-Bucau
> > > > > > > <rm...@gmail.com>wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > no but there are integration issues (lib conflicts, how is it
> > > > > > integrated
> > > > > > > > etc) which are different.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > One drawback of keeping tomee in openejb is the size of the
> > > build.
> > > > > One
> > > > > > > pro
> > > > > > > > is the buil dis consistent.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Oh, now I get it, but in that regard we can do like what
> > Jackrabbit
> > > > > did,
> > > > > > so
> > > > > > > mainly you have a repo like this:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > <REPO_ROOT>
> > > > > > >  /trunk
> > > > > > >  /tags
> > > > > > >  /branches
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > what they did for Oak, which is a new approach for Jackrabbit
> and
> > > > > hence a
> > > > > > > new project, they created a sub repos, like this
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > <REPO_ROOT>
> > > > > > >  /trunk
> > > > > > >  /tags
> > > > > > >  /branches
> > > > > > >  /oak
> > > > > > >  ../trunk
> > > > > > >  ../tags
> > > > > > >  ../branches
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > In that regard we can manage each of OpenEJB and TomEE
> > separately,
> > > > > > thoughts
> > > > > > > ?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > - Romain
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 2012/4/18 Mohammad Nour El-Din <no...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 10:43 AM, Jean-Louis MONTEIRO <
> > > > > > > > jeanouii@gmail.com
> > > > > > > > > >wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I guess in a ideal world, that'd be better to have Apache
> > > TomEE
> > > > > > has a
> > > > > > > > Top
> > > > > > > > > > Project in Apache.
> > > > > > > > > > But it also has side effects and negative points
> > > (dependencies
> > > > > when
> > > > > > > > > > releasing ...).
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Is there a lot of differences between OpenEJB
> > > > (Embdeded/Standalone)
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > TomEE ?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > JLouis
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Le 18 avril 2012 10:14, Romain Manni-Bucau <
> > > > > rmannibucau@gmail.com>
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > > écrit :
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > same idea:
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENEJBwhy
> > > > > is
> > > > > > > > tomee
> > > > > > > > > > > everywhere (name of the page, title...)?
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > - Romain
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > 2012/4/18 Jean-Louis MONTEIRO <je...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > +1 with Mohammad and Romain.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > JLouis
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Le 18 avril 2012 01:25, Mohammad Nour El-Din <
> > > > > > > > > nour.mohammad@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > > > > écrit :
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 1:05 AM, David Blevins <
> > > > > > > > > > > david.blevins@gmail.com
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Was just in reference to which IRC channel to
> use,
> > > > #tomee
> > > > > > or
> > > > > > > > > > #openejb
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I know :), the question was more for building a
> case
> > > of a
> > > > > > > > statement
> > > > > > > > > > :).
> > > > > > > > > > > > For
> > > > > > > > > > > > > me I am in favor of OpenEJB cause thats the origin
> > and
> > > > who
> > > > > > > knows
> > > > > > > > > > about
> > > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > future, more specifically with the cloud addition
> to
> > > JEE
> > > > 7
> > > > > we
> > > > > > > may
> > > > > > > > > > come
> > > > > > > > > > > up
> > > > > > > > > > > > > with another packaging and give it another name but
> > > still
> > > > > it
> > > > > > > will
> > > > > > > > > be
> > > > > > > > > > > > > OpenEJB.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Apr 17, 2012, at 3:51 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Are we talking about project names or users
> > > > interests.
> > > > > > > Cause
> > > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > first
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > place they go to openejb.apache.org
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I believe OpenEJB should be the main name,
> TomEE
> > is
> > > > > just
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > name
> > > > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > > > > one
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > OpenEJB packaging which implements the
> > WebProfile,
> > > so
> > > > > it
> > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > still
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > OpenEJB.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thats my 2 cents.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 11:25 PM, Romain
> > > Manni-Bucau
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <rm...@gmail.com>wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Tomee and openejb redirecting to
> tomee-openejb?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> I know eveybody likes tomee but openejb
> shouldnt
> > > be
> > > > > > > > forgotten
> > > > > > > > > > IMO.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> - Romain
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Le 17 avr. 2012 22:54, "Karan Malhi" <
> > > > > > > karan.malhi@gmail.com
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > > > > écrit
> > > > > > > > > > > > > :
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Hi,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Currently on irc if somebody wants to join
> > > #tomee,
> > > > > they
> > > > > > > get
> > > > > > > > > > > > > redirected
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> #openejb. Personally, I'd prefer the reverse
> > i.e.
> > > > > > #tomee
> > > > > > > > > being
> > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> primary
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> IRC channel. So if somebody joins #openejb
> they
> > > get
> > > > > > > > > redirected
> > > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > #tomee.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> It also gives us the opportunity to have a
> nice
> > > > > welcome
> > > > > > > > > message
> > > > > > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > folks
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> like "Welcome to TomEE - A pure Tomcat based
> > Java
> > > > EE
> > > > > 6
> > > > > > > web
> > > > > > > > > > > profile
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> certified server". Just another little thing
> to
> > > > help
> > > > > > > spread
> > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > word.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> What does everybody else think?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> --
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Karan Singh Malhi
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> twitter.com/KaranSinghMalhi
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Mohammad Nour
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your
> > > balance
> > > > > you
> > > > > > > must
> > > > > > > > > > keep
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > moving"
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Albert Einstein
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > > > > > > > - Mohammad Nour
> > > > > > > > > > > > > ----
> > > > > > > > > > > > > "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your
> balance
> > > you
> > > > > must
> > > > > > > > keep
> > > > > > > > > > > > moving"
> > > > > > > > > > > > > - Albert Einstein
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > > > - Mohammad Nour
> > > > > > > > > ----
> > > > > > > > > "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you
> must
> > > > keep
> > > > > > > > moving"
> > > > > > > > > - Albert Einstein
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > - Mohammad Nour
> > > > > > > ----
> > > > > > > "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must
> > keep
> > > > > > moving"
> > > > > > > - Albert Einstein
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > > - Mohammad Nour
> > > > > ----
> > > > > "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep
> > > > moving"
> > > > > - Albert Einstein
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>



-- 
Thanks
- Mohammad Nour
----
"Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving"
- Albert Einstein

Re: irc tomee or openejb

Posted by Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>.
you look openejb build -> you are notified when you break tomee.

- Romain


2012/4/18 Jean-Louis MONTEIRO <je...@gmail.com>

> AFAIR, most of builds are in Jenckins, so we are free to fire a build each
> time openjpa, openwebbeans, .... is built. Right ?
>
> Regarding that issue, what does the current situation brings?
>
> Jean-Louis
>
>
> Le 18 avril 2012 12:00, Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com> a
> écrit :
>
> > No, buildbot does it too.
> >
> > The issue is not techinical but human. Does openwebbeans users look tomee
> > snapshot? mainly no beacuse that's not their build. That's the issue.
> >
> > Well i'm not opposed to separate both since i follow both, just i wanted
> > you to note braking a consistent project in several subproject can lead
> to
> > some weird builds.
> >
> > Note: we could do subproject for arquillian, maven and utilities too.
> >
> > - Romain
> >
> >
> > 2012/4/18 Jean-Louis MONTEIRO <je...@gmail.com>
> >
> > > Romain,
> > >
> > > I guess we now have a jenckins project for OpenEJB.
> > >
> > > Isn't it a good way to manage dependencies between builds?
> > > That could solve the issue you mentioned?
> > >
> > > JLouis
> > >
> > >
> > > Le 18 avril 2012 11:42, Mohammad Nour El-Din <no...@gmail.com>
> a
> > > écrit :
> > >
> > > > On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 11:33 AM, Romain Manni-Bucau
> > > > <rm...@gmail.com>wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > it is not a technical issue,
> > > > >
> > > > > if there are 2 trunks there are 2 CI builds and we always have to
> > watch
> > > > > both. That's the issue IMO. Typically an openejb dev who don't care
> > > about
> > > > > tomee can break tomee easily if we separate both. Today buildbot
> will
> > > > shoot
> > > > > after him.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Build bot can still shoot after him/her when TomEE is built with the
> > > latest
> > > > OpenEJB code, but as you said this is not the main issue here
> > > >
> > > > So we should make up our minds :), do we need a [VOTE] ?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > - Romain
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > 2012/4/18 Mohammad Nour El-Din <no...@gmail.com>
> > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 10:53 AM, Romain Manni-Bucau
> > > > > > <rm...@gmail.com>wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > no but there are integration issues (lib conflicts, how is it
> > > > > integrated
> > > > > > > etc) which are different.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > One drawback of keeping tomee in openejb is the size of the
> > build.
> > > > One
> > > > > > pro
> > > > > > > is the buil dis consistent.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Oh, now I get it, but in that regard we can do like what
> Jackrabbit
> > > > did,
> > > > > so
> > > > > > mainly you have a repo like this:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > <REPO_ROOT>
> > > > > >  /trunk
> > > > > >  /tags
> > > > > >  /branches
> > > > > >
> > > > > > what they did for Oak, which is a new approach for Jackrabbit and
> > > > hence a
> > > > > > new project, they created a sub repos, like this
> > > > > >
> > > > > > <REPO_ROOT>
> > > > > >  /trunk
> > > > > >  /tags
> > > > > >  /branches
> > > > > >  /oak
> > > > > >  ../trunk
> > > > > >  ../tags
> > > > > >  ../branches
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In that regard we can manage each of OpenEJB and TomEE
> separately,
> > > > > thoughts
> > > > > > ?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > - Romain
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 2012/4/18 Mohammad Nour El-Din <no...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 10:43 AM, Jean-Louis MONTEIRO <
> > > > > > > jeanouii@gmail.com
> > > > > > > > >wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I guess in a ideal world, that'd be better to have Apache
> > TomEE
> > > > > has a
> > > > > > > Top
> > > > > > > > > Project in Apache.
> > > > > > > > > But it also has side effects and negative points
> > (dependencies
> > > > when
> > > > > > > > > releasing ...).
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Is there a lot of differences between OpenEJB
> > > (Embdeded/Standalone)
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > > TomEE ?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > JLouis
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Le 18 avril 2012 10:14, Romain Manni-Bucau <
> > > > rmannibucau@gmail.com>
> > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > écrit :
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > same idea:
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENEJBwhy
> > > > is
> > > > > > > tomee
> > > > > > > > > > everywhere (name of the page, title...)?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > - Romain
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > 2012/4/18 Jean-Louis MONTEIRO <je...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > +1 with Mohammad and Romain.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > JLouis
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Le 18 avril 2012 01:25, Mohammad Nour El-Din <
> > > > > > > > nour.mohammad@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > > > écrit :
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 1:05 AM, David Blevins <
> > > > > > > > > > david.blevins@gmail.com
> > > > > > > > > > > > >wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Was just in reference to which IRC channel to use,
> > > #tomee
> > > > > or
> > > > > > > > > #openejb
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > I know :), the question was more for building a case
> > of a
> > > > > > > statement
> > > > > > > > > :).
> > > > > > > > > > > For
> > > > > > > > > > > > me I am in favor of OpenEJB cause thats the origin
> and
> > > who
> > > > > > knows
> > > > > > > > > about
> > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > future, more specifically with the cloud addition to
> > JEE
> > > 7
> > > > we
> > > > > > may
> > > > > > > > > come
> > > > > > > > > > up
> > > > > > > > > > > > with another packaging and give it another name but
> > still
> > > > it
> > > > > > will
> > > > > > > > be
> > > > > > > > > > > > OpenEJB.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Apr 17, 2012, at 3:51 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Are we talking about project names or users
> > > interests.
> > > > > > Cause
> > > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > first
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > place they go to openejb.apache.org
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I believe OpenEJB should be the main name, TomEE
> is
> > > > just
> > > > > a
> > > > > > > name
> > > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > > > one
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > OpenEJB packaging which implements the
> WebProfile,
> > so
> > > > it
> > > > > is
> > > > > > > > still
> > > > > > > > > > > > > OpenEJB.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thats my 2 cents.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 11:25 PM, Romain
> > Manni-Bucau
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > <rm...@gmail.com>wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Tomee and openejb redirecting to tomee-openejb?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> I know eveybody likes tomee but openejb shouldnt
> > be
> > > > > > > forgotten
> > > > > > > > > IMO.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> - Romain
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Le 17 avr. 2012 22:54, "Karan Malhi" <
> > > > > > karan.malhi@gmail.com
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > > > écrit
> > > > > > > > > > > > :
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Hi,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Currently on irc if somebody wants to join
> > #tomee,
> > > > they
> > > > > > get
> > > > > > > > > > > > redirected
> > > > > > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> #openejb. Personally, I'd prefer the reverse
> i.e.
> > > > > #tomee
> > > > > > > > being
> > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> primary
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> IRC channel. So if somebody joins #openejb they
> > get
> > > > > > > > redirected
> > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > #tomee.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> It also gives us the opportunity to have a nice
> > > > welcome
> > > > > > > > message
> > > > > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > > > > > folks
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> like "Welcome to TomEE - A pure Tomcat based
> Java
> > > EE
> > > > 6
> > > > > > web
> > > > > > > > > > profile
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> certified server". Just another little thing to
> > > help
> > > > > > spread
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > word.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> What does everybody else think?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> --
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Karan Singh Malhi
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> twitter.com/KaranSinghMalhi
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Mohammad Nour
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your
> > balance
> > > > you
> > > > > > must
> > > > > > > > > keep
> > > > > > > > > > > > > moving"
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Albert Einstein
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > > > > > > - Mohammad Nour
> > > > > > > > > > > > ----
> > > > > > > > > > > > "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance
> > you
> > > > must
> > > > > > > keep
> > > > > > > > > > > moving"
> > > > > > > > > > > > - Albert Einstein
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > > - Mohammad Nour
> > > > > > > > ----
> > > > > > > > "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must
> > > keep
> > > > > > > moving"
> > > > > > > > - Albert Einstein
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > - Mohammad Nour
> > > > > > ----
> > > > > > "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must
> keep
> > > > > moving"
> > > > > > - Albert Einstein
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Thanks
> > > > - Mohammad Nour
> > > > ----
> > > > "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep
> > > moving"
> > > > - Albert Einstein
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Re: irc tomee or openejb

Posted by Jean-Louis MONTEIRO <je...@gmail.com>.
AFAIR, most of builds are in Jenckins, so we are free to fire a build each
time openjpa, openwebbeans, .... is built. Right ?

Regarding that issue, what does the current situation brings?

Jean-Louis


Le 18 avril 2012 12:00, Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com> a écrit :

> No, buildbot does it too.
>
> The issue is not techinical but human. Does openwebbeans users look tomee
> snapshot? mainly no beacuse that's not their build. That's the issue.
>
> Well i'm not opposed to separate both since i follow both, just i wanted
> you to note braking a consistent project in several subproject can lead to
> some weird builds.
>
> Note: we could do subproject for arquillian, maven and utilities too.
>
> - Romain
>
>
> 2012/4/18 Jean-Louis MONTEIRO <je...@gmail.com>
>
> > Romain,
> >
> > I guess we now have a jenckins project for OpenEJB.
> >
> > Isn't it a good way to manage dependencies between builds?
> > That could solve the issue you mentioned?
> >
> > JLouis
> >
> >
> > Le 18 avril 2012 11:42, Mohammad Nour El-Din <no...@gmail.com> a
> > écrit :
> >
> > > On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 11:33 AM, Romain Manni-Bucau
> > > <rm...@gmail.com>wrote:
> > >
> > > > it is not a technical issue,
> > > >
> > > > if there are 2 trunks there are 2 CI builds and we always have to
> watch
> > > > both. That's the issue IMO. Typically an openejb dev who don't care
> > about
> > > > tomee can break tomee easily if we separate both. Today buildbot will
> > > shoot
> > > > after him.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Build bot can still shoot after him/her when TomEE is built with the
> > latest
> > > OpenEJB code, but as you said this is not the main issue here
> > >
> > > So we should make up our minds :), do we need a [VOTE] ?
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > - Romain
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 2012/4/18 Mohammad Nour El-Din <no...@gmail.com>
> > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 10:53 AM, Romain Manni-Bucau
> > > > > <rm...@gmail.com>wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > no but there are integration issues (lib conflicts, how is it
> > > > integrated
> > > > > > etc) which are different.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > One drawback of keeping tomee in openejb is the size of the
> build.
> > > One
> > > > > pro
> > > > > > is the buil dis consistent.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Oh, now I get it, but in that regard we can do like what Jackrabbit
> > > did,
> > > > so
> > > > > mainly you have a repo like this:
> > > > >
> > > > > <REPO_ROOT>
> > > > >  /trunk
> > > > >  /tags
> > > > >  /branches
> > > > >
> > > > > what they did for Oak, which is a new approach for Jackrabbit and
> > > hence a
> > > > > new project, they created a sub repos, like this
> > > > >
> > > > > <REPO_ROOT>
> > > > >  /trunk
> > > > >  /tags
> > > > >  /branches
> > > > >  /oak
> > > > >  ../trunk
> > > > >  ../tags
> > > > >  ../branches
> > > > >
> > > > > In that regard we can manage each of OpenEJB and TomEE separately,
> > > > thoughts
> > > > > ?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > - Romain
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 2012/4/18 Mohammad Nour El-Din <no...@gmail.com>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 10:43 AM, Jean-Louis MONTEIRO <
> > > > > > jeanouii@gmail.com
> > > > > > > >wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I guess in a ideal world, that'd be better to have Apache
> TomEE
> > > > has a
> > > > > > Top
> > > > > > > > Project in Apache.
> > > > > > > > But it also has side effects and negative points
> (dependencies
> > > when
> > > > > > > > releasing ...).
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Is there a lot of differences between OpenEJB
> > (Embdeded/Standalone)
> > > > and
> > > > > > > TomEE ?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > JLouis
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Le 18 avril 2012 10:14, Romain Manni-Bucau <
> > > rmannibucau@gmail.com>
> > > > a
> > > > > > > > écrit :
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > same idea: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENEJBwhy
> > > is
> > > > > > tomee
> > > > > > > > > everywhere (name of the page, title...)?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > - Romain
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 2012/4/18 Jean-Louis MONTEIRO <je...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > +1 with Mohammad and Romain.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > JLouis
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Le 18 avril 2012 01:25, Mohammad Nour El-Din <
> > > > > > > nour.mohammad@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > > écrit :
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 1:05 AM, David Blevins <
> > > > > > > > > david.blevins@gmail.com
> > > > > > > > > > > >wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Was just in reference to which IRC channel to use,
> > #tomee
> > > > or
> > > > > > > > #openejb
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I know :), the question was more for building a case
> of a
> > > > > > statement
> > > > > > > > :).
> > > > > > > > > > For
> > > > > > > > > > > me I am in favor of OpenEJB cause thats the origin and
> > who
> > > > > knows
> > > > > > > > about
> > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > future, more specifically with the cloud addition to
> JEE
> > 7
> > > we
> > > > > may
> > > > > > > > come
> > > > > > > > > up
> > > > > > > > > > > with another packaging and give it another name but
> still
> > > it
> > > > > will
> > > > > > > be
> > > > > > > > > > > OpenEJB.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Apr 17, 2012, at 3:51 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din
> > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Are we talking about project names or users
> > interests.
> > > > > Cause
> > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > first
> > > > > > > > > > > > > place they go to openejb.apache.org
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I believe OpenEJB should be the main name, TomEE is
> > > just
> > > > a
> > > > > > name
> > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > > one
> > > > > > > > > > > > > OpenEJB packaging which implements the WebProfile,
> so
> > > it
> > > > is
> > > > > > > still
> > > > > > > > > > > > OpenEJB.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Thats my 2 cents.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 11:25 PM, Romain
> Manni-Bucau
> > > > > > > > > > > > > <rm...@gmail.com>wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> Tomee and openejb redirecting to tomee-openejb?
> > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> I know eveybody likes tomee but openejb shouldnt
> be
> > > > > > forgotten
> > > > > > > > IMO.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> - Romain
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> Le 17 avr. 2012 22:54, "Karan Malhi" <
> > > > > karan.malhi@gmail.com
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > > écrit
> > > > > > > > > > > :
> > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Hi,
> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Currently on irc if somebody wants to join
> #tomee,
> > > they
> > > > > get
> > > > > > > > > > > redirected
> > > > > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> #openejb. Personally, I'd prefer the reverse i.e.
> > > > #tomee
> > > > > > > being
> > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> primary
> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> IRC channel. So if somebody joins #openejb they
> get
> > > > > > > redirected
> > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > > #tomee.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> It also gives us the opportunity to have a nice
> > > welcome
> > > > > > > message
> > > > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > > > > folks
> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> like "Welcome to TomEE - A pure Tomcat based Java
> > EE
> > > 6
> > > > > web
> > > > > > > > > profile
> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> certified server". Just another little thing to
> > help
> > > > > spread
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > word.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> What does everybody else think?
> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> --
> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Karan Singh Malhi
> > > > > > > > > > > > >>> twitter.com/KaranSinghMalhi
> > > > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > > > > > > > - Mohammad Nour
> > > > > > > > > > > > > ----
> > > > > > > > > > > > > "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your
> balance
> > > you
> > > > > must
> > > > > > > > keep
> > > > > > > > > > > > moving"
> > > > > > > > > > > > > - Albert Einstein
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > > > > > - Mohammad Nour
> > > > > > > > > > > ----
> > > > > > > > > > > "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance
> you
> > > must
> > > > > > keep
> > > > > > > > > > moving"
> > > > > > > > > > > - Albert Einstein
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > - Mohammad Nour
> > > > > > > ----
> > > > > > > "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must
> > keep
> > > > > > moving"
> > > > > > > - Albert Einstein
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > > - Mohammad Nour
> > > > > ----
> > > > > "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep
> > > > moving"
> > > > > - Albert Einstein
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Thanks
> > > - Mohammad Nour
> > > ----
> > > "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep
> > moving"
> > > - Albert Einstein
> > >
> >
>

Re: irc tomee or openejb

Posted by Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>.
No, buildbot does it too.

The issue is not techinical but human. Does openwebbeans users look tomee
snapshot? mainly no beacuse that's not their build. That's the issue.

Well i'm not opposed to separate both since i follow both, just i wanted
you to note braking a consistent project in several subproject can lead to
some weird builds.

Note: we could do subproject for arquillian, maven and utilities too.

- Romain


2012/4/18 Jean-Louis MONTEIRO <je...@gmail.com>

> Romain,
>
> I guess we now have a jenckins project for OpenEJB.
>
> Isn't it a good way to manage dependencies between builds?
> That could solve the issue you mentioned?
>
> JLouis
>
>
> Le 18 avril 2012 11:42, Mohammad Nour El-Din <no...@gmail.com> a
> écrit :
>
> > On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 11:33 AM, Romain Manni-Bucau
> > <rm...@gmail.com>wrote:
> >
> > > it is not a technical issue,
> > >
> > > if there are 2 trunks there are 2 CI builds and we always have to watch
> > > both. That's the issue IMO. Typically an openejb dev who don't care
> about
> > > tomee can break tomee easily if we separate both. Today buildbot will
> > shoot
> > > after him.
> > >
> >
> > Build bot can still shoot after him/her when TomEE is built with the
> latest
> > OpenEJB code, but as you said this is not the main issue here
> >
> > So we should make up our minds :), do we need a [VOTE] ?
> >
> >
> > >
> > > - Romain
> > >
> > >
> > > 2012/4/18 Mohammad Nour El-Din <no...@gmail.com>
> > >
> > > > On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 10:53 AM, Romain Manni-Bucau
> > > > <rm...@gmail.com>wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > no but there are integration issues (lib conflicts, how is it
> > > integrated
> > > > > etc) which are different.
> > > > >
> > > > > One drawback of keeping tomee in openejb is the size of the build.
> > One
> > > > pro
> > > > > is the buil dis consistent.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Oh, now I get it, but in that regard we can do like what Jackrabbit
> > did,
> > > so
> > > > mainly you have a repo like this:
> > > >
> > > > <REPO_ROOT>
> > > >  /trunk
> > > >  /tags
> > > >  /branches
> > > >
> > > > what they did for Oak, which is a new approach for Jackrabbit and
> > hence a
> > > > new project, they created a sub repos, like this
> > > >
> > > > <REPO_ROOT>
> > > >  /trunk
> > > >  /tags
> > > >  /branches
> > > >  /oak
> > > >  ../trunk
> > > >  ../tags
> > > >  ../branches
> > > >
> > > > In that regard we can manage each of OpenEJB and TomEE separately,
> > > thoughts
> > > > ?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > - Romain
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > 2012/4/18 Mohammad Nour El-Din <no...@gmail.com>
> > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 10:43 AM, Jean-Louis MONTEIRO <
> > > > > jeanouii@gmail.com
> > > > > > >wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I guess in a ideal world, that'd be better to have Apache TomEE
> > > has a
> > > > > Top
> > > > > > > Project in Apache.
> > > > > > > But it also has side effects and negative points (dependencies
> > when
> > > > > > > releasing ...).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Is there a lot of differences between OpenEJB
> (Embdeded/Standalone)
> > > and
> > > > > > TomEE ?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > JLouis
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Le 18 avril 2012 10:14, Romain Manni-Bucau <
> > rmannibucau@gmail.com>
> > > a
> > > > > > > écrit :
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > same idea: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENEJB why
> > is
> > > > > tomee
> > > > > > > > everywhere (name of the page, title...)?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > - Romain
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 2012/4/18 Jean-Louis MONTEIRO <je...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > +1 with Mohammad and Romain.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > JLouis
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Le 18 avril 2012 01:25, Mohammad Nour El-Din <
> > > > > > nour.mohammad@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > écrit :
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 1:05 AM, David Blevins <
> > > > > > > > david.blevins@gmail.com
> > > > > > > > > > >wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Was just in reference to which IRC channel to use,
> #tomee
> > > or
> > > > > > > #openejb
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I know :), the question was more for building a case of a
> > > > > statement
> > > > > > > :).
> > > > > > > > > For
> > > > > > > > > > me I am in favor of OpenEJB cause thats the origin and
> who
> > > > knows
> > > > > > > about
> > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > future, more specifically with the cloud addition to JEE
> 7
> > we
> > > > may
> > > > > > > come
> > > > > > > > up
> > > > > > > > > > with another packaging and give it another name but still
> > it
> > > > will
> > > > > > be
> > > > > > > > > > OpenEJB.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > On Apr 17, 2012, at 3:51 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din
> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Are we talking about project names or users
> interests.
> > > > Cause
> > > > > in
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > first
> > > > > > > > > > > > place they go to openejb.apache.org
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > I believe OpenEJB should be the main name, TomEE is
> > just
> > > a
> > > > > name
> > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > one
> > > > > > > > > > > > OpenEJB packaging which implements the WebProfile, so
> > it
> > > is
> > > > > > still
> > > > > > > > > > > OpenEJB.
> > > > > > > > > > > > Thats my 2 cents.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 11:25 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau
> > > > > > > > > > > > <rm...@gmail.com>wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >> Tomee and openejb redirecting to tomee-openejb?
> > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > >> I know eveybody likes tomee but openejb shouldnt be
> > > > > forgotten
> > > > > > > IMO.
> > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > >> - Romain
> > > > > > > > > > > >> Le 17 avr. 2012 22:54, "Karan Malhi" <
> > > > karan.malhi@gmail.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > écrit
> > > > > > > > > > :
> > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>> Hi,
> > > > > > > > > > > >>> Currently on irc if somebody wants to join #tomee,
> > they
> > > > get
> > > > > > > > > > redirected
> > > > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > >>> #openejb. Personally, I'd prefer the reverse i.e.
> > > #tomee
> > > > > > being
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > >> primary
> > > > > > > > > > > >>> IRC channel. So if somebody joins #openejb they get
> > > > > > redirected
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > #tomee.
> > > > > > > > > > > >>> It also gives us the opportunity to have a nice
> > welcome
> > > > > > message
> > > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > > > folks
> > > > > > > > > > > >>> like "Welcome to TomEE - A pure Tomcat based Java
> EE
> > 6
> > > > web
> > > > > > > > profile
> > > > > > > > > > > >>> certified server". Just another little thing to
> help
> > > > spread
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > word.
> > > > > > > > > > > >>> What does everybody else think?
> > > > > > > > > > > >>> --
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>> Karan Singh Malhi
> > > > > > > > > > > >>> twitter.com/KaranSinghMalhi
> > > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > > > > > > - Mohammad Nour
> > > > > > > > > > > > ----
> > > > > > > > > > > > "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance
> > you
> > > > must
> > > > > > > keep
> > > > > > > > > > > moving"
> > > > > > > > > > > > - Albert Einstein
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > > > > - Mohammad Nour
> > > > > > > > > > ----
> > > > > > > > > > "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you
> > must
> > > > > keep
> > > > > > > > > moving"
> > > > > > > > > > - Albert Einstein
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > - Mohammad Nour
> > > > > > ----
> > > > > > "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must
> keep
> > > > > moving"
> > > > > > - Albert Einstein
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Thanks
> > > > - Mohammad Nour
> > > > ----
> > > > "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep
> > > moving"
> > > > - Albert Einstein
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Thanks
> > - Mohammad Nour
> > ----
> > "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep
> moving"
> > - Albert Einstein
> >
>

Re: irc tomee or openejb

Posted by Jean-Louis MONTEIRO <je...@gmail.com>.
Romain,

I guess we now have a jenckins project for OpenEJB.

Isn't it a good way to manage dependencies between builds?
That could solve the issue you mentioned?

JLouis


Le 18 avril 2012 11:42, Mohammad Nour El-Din <no...@gmail.com> a
écrit :

> On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 11:33 AM, Romain Manni-Bucau
> <rm...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > it is not a technical issue,
> >
> > if there are 2 trunks there are 2 CI builds and we always have to watch
> > both. That's the issue IMO. Typically an openejb dev who don't care about
> > tomee can break tomee easily if we separate both. Today buildbot will
> shoot
> > after him.
> >
>
> Build bot can still shoot after him/her when TomEE is built with the latest
> OpenEJB code, but as you said this is not the main issue here
>
> So we should make up our minds :), do we need a [VOTE] ?
>
>
> >
> > - Romain
> >
> >
> > 2012/4/18 Mohammad Nour El-Din <no...@gmail.com>
> >
> > > On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 10:53 AM, Romain Manni-Bucau
> > > <rm...@gmail.com>wrote:
> > >
> > > > no but there are integration issues (lib conflicts, how is it
> > integrated
> > > > etc) which are different.
> > > >
> > > > One drawback of keeping tomee in openejb is the size of the build.
> One
> > > pro
> > > > is the buil dis consistent.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Oh, now I get it, but in that regard we can do like what Jackrabbit
> did,
> > so
> > > mainly you have a repo like this:
> > >
> > > <REPO_ROOT>
> > >  /trunk
> > >  /tags
> > >  /branches
> > >
> > > what they did for Oak, which is a new approach for Jackrabbit and
> hence a
> > > new project, they created a sub repos, like this
> > >
> > > <REPO_ROOT>
> > >  /trunk
> > >  /tags
> > >  /branches
> > >  /oak
> > >  ../trunk
> > >  ../tags
> > >  ../branches
> > >
> > > In that regard we can manage each of OpenEJB and TomEE separately,
> > thoughts
> > > ?
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > - Romain
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 2012/4/18 Mohammad Nour El-Din <no...@gmail.com>
> > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 10:43 AM, Jean-Louis MONTEIRO <
> > > > jeanouii@gmail.com
> > > > > >wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I guess in a ideal world, that'd be better to have Apache TomEE
> > has a
> > > > Top
> > > > > > Project in Apache.
> > > > > > But it also has side effects and negative points (dependencies
> when
> > > > > > releasing ...).
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Is there a lot of differences between OpenEJB (Embdeded/Standalone)
> > and
> > > > > TomEE ?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > JLouis
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Le 18 avril 2012 10:14, Romain Manni-Bucau <
> rmannibucau@gmail.com>
> > a
> > > > > > écrit :
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > same idea: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENEJB why
> is
> > > > tomee
> > > > > > > everywhere (name of the page, title...)?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > - Romain
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 2012/4/18 Jean-Louis MONTEIRO <je...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > +1 with Mohammad and Romain.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > JLouis
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Le 18 avril 2012 01:25, Mohammad Nour El-Din <
> > > > > nour.mohammad@gmail.com>
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > écrit :
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 1:05 AM, David Blevins <
> > > > > > > david.blevins@gmail.com
> > > > > > > > > >wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Was just in reference to which IRC channel to use, #tomee
> > or
> > > > > > #openejb
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I know :), the question was more for building a case of a
> > > > statement
> > > > > > :).
> > > > > > > > For
> > > > > > > > > me I am in favor of OpenEJB cause thats the origin and who
> > > knows
> > > > > > about
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > future, more specifically with the cloud addition to JEE 7
> we
> > > may
> > > > > > come
> > > > > > > up
> > > > > > > > > with another packaging and give it another name but still
> it
> > > will
> > > > > be
> > > > > > > > > OpenEJB.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On Apr 17, 2012, at 3:51 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Are we talking about project names or users interests.
> > > Cause
> > > > in
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > first
> > > > > > > > > > > place they go to openejb.apache.org
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I believe OpenEJB should be the main name, TomEE is
> just
> > a
> > > > name
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > one
> > > > > > > > > > > OpenEJB packaging which implements the WebProfile, so
> it
> > is
> > > > > still
> > > > > > > > > > OpenEJB.
> > > > > > > > > > > Thats my 2 cents.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 11:25 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau
> > > > > > > > > > > <rm...@gmail.com>wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >> Tomee and openejb redirecting to tomee-openejb?
> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >> I know eveybody likes tomee but openejb shouldnt be
> > > > forgotten
> > > > > > IMO.
> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >> - Romain
> > > > > > > > > > >> Le 17 avr. 2012 22:54, "Karan Malhi" <
> > > karan.malhi@gmail.com
> > > > >
> > > > > a
> > > > > > > > écrit
> > > > > > > > > :
> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >>> Hi,
> > > > > > > > > > >>> Currently on irc if somebody wants to join #tomee,
> they
> > > get
> > > > > > > > > redirected
> > > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > >>> #openejb. Personally, I'd prefer the reverse i.e.
> > #tomee
> > > > > being
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > >> primary
> > > > > > > > > > >>> IRC channel. So if somebody joins #openejb they get
> > > > > redirected
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > #tomee.
> > > > > > > > > > >>> It also gives us the opportunity to have a nice
> welcome
> > > > > message
> > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > > folks
> > > > > > > > > > >>> like "Welcome to TomEE - A pure Tomcat based Java EE
> 6
> > > web
> > > > > > > profile
> > > > > > > > > > >>> certified server". Just another little thing to help
> > > spread
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > > word.
> > > > > > > > > > >>> What does everybody else think?
> > > > > > > > > > >>> --
> > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>> Karan Singh Malhi
> > > > > > > > > > >>> twitter.com/KaranSinghMalhi
> > > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > > > > > - Mohammad Nour
> > > > > > > > > > > ----
> > > > > > > > > > > "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance
> you
> > > must
> > > > > > keep
> > > > > > > > > > moving"
> > > > > > > > > > > - Albert Einstein
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > > > - Mohammad Nour
> > > > > > > > > ----
> > > > > > > > > "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you
> must
> > > > keep
> > > > > > > > moving"
> > > > > > > > > - Albert Einstein
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > > - Mohammad Nour
> > > > > ----
> > > > > "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep
> > > > moving"
> > > > > - Albert Einstein
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Thanks
> > > - Mohammad Nour
> > > ----
> > > "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep
> > moving"
> > > - Albert Einstein
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Thanks
> - Mohammad Nour
> ----
> "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving"
> - Albert Einstein
>

Re: irc tomee or openejb

Posted by Mohammad Nour El-Din <no...@gmail.com>.
On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 11:33 AM, Romain Manni-Bucau
<rm...@gmail.com>wrote:

> it is not a technical issue,
>
> if there are 2 trunks there are 2 CI builds and we always have to watch
> both. That's the issue IMO. Typically an openejb dev who don't care about
> tomee can break tomee easily if we separate both. Today buildbot will shoot
> after him.
>

Build bot can still shoot after him/her when TomEE is built with the latest
OpenEJB code, but as you said this is not the main issue here

So we should make up our minds :), do we need a [VOTE] ?


>
> - Romain
>
>
> 2012/4/18 Mohammad Nour El-Din <no...@gmail.com>
>
> > On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 10:53 AM, Romain Manni-Bucau
> > <rm...@gmail.com>wrote:
> >
> > > no but there are integration issues (lib conflicts, how is it
> integrated
> > > etc) which are different.
> > >
> > > One drawback of keeping tomee in openejb is the size of the build. One
> > pro
> > > is the buil dis consistent.
> > >
> >
> > Oh, now I get it, but in that regard we can do like what Jackrabbit did,
> so
> > mainly you have a repo like this:
> >
> > <REPO_ROOT>
> >  /trunk
> >  /tags
> >  /branches
> >
> > what they did for Oak, which is a new approach for Jackrabbit and hence a
> > new project, they created a sub repos, like this
> >
> > <REPO_ROOT>
> >  /trunk
> >  /tags
> >  /branches
> >  /oak
> >  ../trunk
> >  ../tags
> >  ../branches
> >
> > In that regard we can manage each of OpenEJB and TomEE separately,
> thoughts
> > ?
> >
> >
> > >
> > > - Romain
> > >
> > >
> > > 2012/4/18 Mohammad Nour El-Din <no...@gmail.com>
> > >
> > > > On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 10:43 AM, Jean-Louis MONTEIRO <
> > > jeanouii@gmail.com
> > > > >wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I guess in a ideal world, that'd be better to have Apache TomEE
> has a
> > > Top
> > > > > Project in Apache.
> > > > > But it also has side effects and negative points (dependencies when
> > > > > releasing ...).
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Is there a lot of differences between OpenEJB (Embdeded/Standalone)
> and
> > > > TomEE ?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > JLouis
> > > > >
> > > > > Le 18 avril 2012 10:14, Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>
> a
> > > > > écrit :
> > > > >
> > > > > > same idea: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENEJB why is
> > > tomee
> > > > > > everywhere (name of the page, title...)?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > - Romain
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 2012/4/18 Jean-Louis MONTEIRO <je...@gmail.com>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > +1 with Mohammad and Romain.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > JLouis
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Le 18 avril 2012 01:25, Mohammad Nour El-Din <
> > > > nour.mohammad@gmail.com>
> > > > > a
> > > > > > > écrit :
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 1:05 AM, David Blevins <
> > > > > > david.blevins@gmail.com
> > > > > > > > >wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Was just in reference to which IRC channel to use, #tomee
> or
> > > > > #openejb
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I know :), the question was more for building a case of a
> > > statement
> > > > > :).
> > > > > > > For
> > > > > > > > me I am in favor of OpenEJB cause thats the origin and who
> > knows
> > > > > about
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > future, more specifically with the cloud addition to JEE 7 we
> > may
> > > > > come
> > > > > > up
> > > > > > > > with another packaging and give it another name but still it
> > will
> > > > be
> > > > > > > > OpenEJB.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Apr 17, 2012, at 3:51 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Are we talking about project names or users interests.
> > Cause
> > > in
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > > first
> > > > > > > > > > place they go to openejb.apache.org
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I believe OpenEJB should be the main name, TomEE is just
> a
> > > name
> > > > > of
> > > > > > > one
> > > > > > > > > > OpenEJB packaging which implements the WebProfile, so it
> is
> > > > still
> > > > > > > > > OpenEJB.
> > > > > > > > > > Thats my 2 cents.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 11:25 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau
> > > > > > > > > > <rm...@gmail.com>wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >> Tomee and openejb redirecting to tomee-openejb?
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >> I know eveybody likes tomee but openejb shouldnt be
> > > forgotten
> > > > > IMO.
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >> - Romain
> > > > > > > > > >> Le 17 avr. 2012 22:54, "Karan Malhi" <
> > karan.malhi@gmail.com
> > > >
> > > > a
> > > > > > > écrit
> > > > > > > > :
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >>> Hi,
> > > > > > > > > >>> Currently on irc if somebody wants to join #tomee, they
> > get
> > > > > > > > redirected
> > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > >>> #openejb. Personally, I'd prefer the reverse i.e.
> #tomee
> > > > being
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > >> primary
> > > > > > > > > >>> IRC channel. So if somebody joins #openejb they get
> > > > redirected
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > #tomee.
> > > > > > > > > >>> It also gives us the opportunity to have a nice welcome
> > > > message
> > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > folks
> > > > > > > > > >>> like "Welcome to TomEE - A pure Tomcat based Java EE 6
> > web
> > > > > > profile
> > > > > > > > > >>> certified server". Just another little thing to help
> > spread
> > > > the
> > > > > > > word.
> > > > > > > > > >>> What does everybody else think?
> > > > > > > > > >>> --
> > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > >>> Karan Singh Malhi
> > > > > > > > > >>> twitter.com/KaranSinghMalhi
> > > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > > > > - Mohammad Nour
> > > > > > > > > > ----
> > > > > > > > > > "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you
> > must
> > > > > keep
> > > > > > > > > moving"
> > > > > > > > > > - Albert Einstein
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > > - Mohammad Nour
> > > > > > > > ----
> > > > > > > > "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must
> > > keep
> > > > > > > moving"
> > > > > > > > - Albert Einstein
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Thanks
> > > > - Mohammad Nour
> > > > ----
> > > > "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep
> > > moving"
> > > > - Albert Einstein
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Thanks
> > - Mohammad Nour
> > ----
> > "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep
> moving"
> > - Albert Einstein
> >
>



-- 
Thanks
- Mohammad Nour
----
"Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving"
- Albert Einstein

Re: irc tomee or openejb

Posted by Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>.
it is not a technical issue,

if there are 2 trunks there are 2 CI builds and we always have to watch
both. That's the issue IMO. Typically an openejb dev who don't care about
tomee can break tomee easily if we separate both. Today buildbot will shoot
after him.

- Romain


2012/4/18 Mohammad Nour El-Din <no...@gmail.com>

> On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 10:53 AM, Romain Manni-Bucau
> <rm...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > no but there are integration issues (lib conflicts, how is it integrated
> > etc) which are different.
> >
> > One drawback of keeping tomee in openejb is the size of the build. One
> pro
> > is the buil dis consistent.
> >
>
> Oh, now I get it, but in that regard we can do like what Jackrabbit did, so
> mainly you have a repo like this:
>
> <REPO_ROOT>
>  /trunk
>  /tags
>  /branches
>
> what they did for Oak, which is a new approach for Jackrabbit and hence a
> new project, they created a sub repos, like this
>
> <REPO_ROOT>
>  /trunk
>  /tags
>  /branches
>  /oak
>  ../trunk
>  ../tags
>  ../branches
>
> In that regard we can manage each of OpenEJB and TomEE separately, thoughts
> ?
>
>
> >
> > - Romain
> >
> >
> > 2012/4/18 Mohammad Nour El-Din <no...@gmail.com>
> >
> > > On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 10:43 AM, Jean-Louis MONTEIRO <
> > jeanouii@gmail.com
> > > >wrote:
> > >
> > > > I guess in a ideal world, that'd be better to have Apache TomEE has a
> > Top
> > > > Project in Apache.
> > > > But it also has side effects and negative points (dependencies when
> > > > releasing ...).
> > > >
> > >
> > > Is there a lot of differences between OpenEJB (Embdeded/Standalone) and
> > > TomEE ?
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > JLouis
> > > >
> > > > Le 18 avril 2012 10:14, Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com> a
> > > > écrit :
> > > >
> > > > > same idea: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENEJB why is
> > tomee
> > > > > everywhere (name of the page, title...)?
> > > > >
> > > > > - Romain
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > 2012/4/18 Jean-Louis MONTEIRO <je...@gmail.com>
> > > > >
> > > > > > +1 with Mohammad and Romain.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > JLouis
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Le 18 avril 2012 01:25, Mohammad Nour El-Din <
> > > nour.mohammad@gmail.com>
> > > > a
> > > > > > écrit :
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 1:05 AM, David Blevins <
> > > > > david.blevins@gmail.com
> > > > > > > >wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Was just in reference to which IRC channel to use, #tomee or
> > > > #openejb
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I know :), the question was more for building a case of a
> > statement
> > > > :).
> > > > > > For
> > > > > > > me I am in favor of OpenEJB cause thats the origin and who
> knows
> > > > about
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > future, more specifically with the cloud addition to JEE 7 we
> may
> > > > come
> > > > > up
> > > > > > > with another packaging and give it another name but still it
> will
> > > be
> > > > > > > OpenEJB.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Apr 17, 2012, at 3:51 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Are we talking about project names or users interests.
> Cause
> > in
> > > > the
> > > > > > > first
> > > > > > > > > place they go to openejb.apache.org
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I believe OpenEJB should be the main name, TomEE is just a
> > name
> > > > of
> > > > > > one
> > > > > > > > > OpenEJB packaging which implements the WebProfile, so it is
> > > still
> > > > > > > > OpenEJB.
> > > > > > > > > Thats my 2 cents.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 11:25 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau
> > > > > > > > > <rm...@gmail.com>wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> Tomee and openejb redirecting to tomee-openejb?
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> I know eveybody likes tomee but openejb shouldnt be
> > forgotten
> > > > IMO.
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> - Romain
> > > > > > > > >> Le 17 avr. 2012 22:54, "Karan Malhi" <
> karan.malhi@gmail.com
> > >
> > > a
> > > > > > écrit
> > > > > > > :
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>> Hi,
> > > > > > > > >>> Currently on irc if somebody wants to join #tomee, they
> get
> > > > > > > redirected
> > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > >>> #openejb. Personally, I'd prefer the reverse i.e. #tomee
> > > being
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > > >> primary
> > > > > > > > >>> IRC channel. So if somebody joins #openejb they get
> > > redirected
> > > > to
> > > > > > > > #tomee.
> > > > > > > > >>> It also gives us the opportunity to have a nice welcome
> > > message
> > > > > for
> > > > > > > > folks
> > > > > > > > >>> like "Welcome to TomEE - A pure Tomcat based Java EE 6
> web
> > > > > profile
> > > > > > > > >>> certified server". Just another little thing to help
> spread
> > > the
> > > > > > word.
> > > > > > > > >>> What does everybody else think?
> > > > > > > > >>> --
> > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > >>> Karan Singh Malhi
> > > > > > > > >>> twitter.com/KaranSinghMalhi
> > > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > > > - Mohammad Nour
> > > > > > > > > ----
> > > > > > > > > "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you
> must
> > > > keep
> > > > > > > > moving"
> > > > > > > > > - Albert Einstein
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > - Mohammad Nour
> > > > > > > ----
> > > > > > > "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must
> > keep
> > > > > > moving"
> > > > > > > - Albert Einstein
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Thanks
> > > - Mohammad Nour
> > > ----
> > > "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep
> > moving"
> > > - Albert Einstein
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Thanks
> - Mohammad Nour
> ----
> "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving"
> - Albert Einstein
>

Re: irc tomee or openejb

Posted by Mohammad Nour El-Din <no...@gmail.com>.
On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 10:53 AM, Romain Manni-Bucau
<rm...@gmail.com>wrote:

> no but there are integration issues (lib conflicts, how is it integrated
> etc) which are different.
>
> One drawback of keeping tomee in openejb is the size of the build. One pro
> is the buil dis consistent.
>

Oh, now I get it, but in that regard we can do like what Jackrabbit did, so
mainly you have a repo like this:

<REPO_ROOT>
  /trunk
  /tags
  /branches

what they did for Oak, which is a new approach for Jackrabbit and hence a
new project, they created a sub repos, like this

<REPO_ROOT>
  /trunk
  /tags
  /branches
  /oak
  ../trunk
  ../tags
  ../branches

In that regard we can manage each of OpenEJB and TomEE separately, thoughts
?


>
> - Romain
>
>
> 2012/4/18 Mohammad Nour El-Din <no...@gmail.com>
>
> > On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 10:43 AM, Jean-Louis MONTEIRO <
> jeanouii@gmail.com
> > >wrote:
> >
> > > I guess in a ideal world, that'd be better to have Apache TomEE has a
> Top
> > > Project in Apache.
> > > But it also has side effects and negative points (dependencies when
> > > releasing ...).
> > >
> >
> > Is there a lot of differences between OpenEJB (Embdeded/Standalone) and
> > TomEE ?
> >
> >
> > >
> > > JLouis
> > >
> > > Le 18 avril 2012 10:14, Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com> a
> > > écrit :
> > >
> > > > same idea: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENEJB why is
> tomee
> > > > everywhere (name of the page, title...)?
> > > >
> > > > - Romain
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 2012/4/18 Jean-Louis MONTEIRO <je...@gmail.com>
> > > >
> > > > > +1 with Mohammad and Romain.
> > > > >
> > > > > JLouis
> > > > >
> > > > > Le 18 avril 2012 01:25, Mohammad Nour El-Din <
> > nour.mohammad@gmail.com>
> > > a
> > > > > écrit :
> > > > >
> > > > > > On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 1:05 AM, David Blevins <
> > > > david.blevins@gmail.com
> > > > > > >wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Was just in reference to which IRC channel to use, #tomee or
> > > #openejb
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I know :), the question was more for building a case of a
> statement
> > > :).
> > > > > For
> > > > > > me I am in favor of OpenEJB cause thats the origin and who knows
> > > about
> > > > > the
> > > > > > future, more specifically with the cloud addition to JEE 7 we may
> > > come
> > > > up
> > > > > > with another packaging and give it another name but still it will
> > be
> > > > > > OpenEJB.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Apr 17, 2012, at 3:51 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Are we talking about project names or users interests. Cause
> in
> > > the
> > > > > > first
> > > > > > > > place they go to openejb.apache.org
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I believe OpenEJB should be the main name, TomEE is just a
> name
> > > of
> > > > > one
> > > > > > > > OpenEJB packaging which implements the WebProfile, so it is
> > still
> > > > > > > OpenEJB.
> > > > > > > > Thats my 2 cents.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 11:25 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau
> > > > > > > > <rm...@gmail.com>wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> Tomee and openejb redirecting to tomee-openejb?
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> I know eveybody likes tomee but openejb shouldnt be
> forgotten
> > > IMO.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> - Romain
> > > > > > > >> Le 17 avr. 2012 22:54, "Karan Malhi" <karan.malhi@gmail.com
> >
> > a
> > > > > écrit
> > > > > > :
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>> Hi,
> > > > > > > >>> Currently on irc if somebody wants to join #tomee, they get
> > > > > > redirected
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > >>> #openejb. Personally, I'd prefer the reverse i.e. #tomee
> > being
> > > > the
> > > > > > > >> primary
> > > > > > > >>> IRC channel. So if somebody joins #openejb they get
> > redirected
> > > to
> > > > > > > #tomee.
> > > > > > > >>> It also gives us the opportunity to have a nice welcome
> > message
> > > > for
> > > > > > > folks
> > > > > > > >>> like "Welcome to TomEE - A pure Tomcat based Java EE 6 web
> > > > profile
> > > > > > > >>> certified server". Just another little thing to help spread
> > the
> > > > > word.
> > > > > > > >>> What does everybody else think?
> > > > > > > >>> --
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>> Karan Singh Malhi
> > > > > > > >>> twitter.com/KaranSinghMalhi
> > > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > > - Mohammad Nour
> > > > > > > > ----
> > > > > > > > "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must
> > > keep
> > > > > > > moving"
> > > > > > > > - Albert Einstein
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > - Mohammad Nour
> > > > > > ----
> > > > > > "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must
> keep
> > > > > moving"
> > > > > > - Albert Einstein
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Thanks
> > - Mohammad Nour
> > ----
> > "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep
> moving"
> > - Albert Einstein
> >
>



-- 
Thanks
- Mohammad Nour
----
"Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving"
- Albert Einstein

Re: irc tomee or openejb

Posted by Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>.
no but there are integration issues (lib conflicts, how is it integrated
etc) which are different.

One drawback of keeping tomee in openejb is the size of the build. One pro
is the buil dis consistent.

- Romain


2012/4/18 Mohammad Nour El-Din <no...@gmail.com>

> On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 10:43 AM, Jean-Louis MONTEIRO <jeanouii@gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > I guess in a ideal world, that'd be better to have Apache TomEE has a Top
> > Project in Apache.
> > But it also has side effects and negative points (dependencies when
> > releasing ...).
> >
>
> Is there a lot of differences between OpenEJB (Embdeded/Standalone) and
> TomEE ?
>
>
> >
> > JLouis
> >
> > Le 18 avril 2012 10:14, Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com> a
> > écrit :
> >
> > > same idea: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENEJB why is tomee
> > > everywhere (name of the page, title...)?
> > >
> > > - Romain
> > >
> > >
> > > 2012/4/18 Jean-Louis MONTEIRO <je...@gmail.com>
> > >
> > > > +1 with Mohammad and Romain.
> > > >
> > > > JLouis
> > > >
> > > > Le 18 avril 2012 01:25, Mohammad Nour El-Din <
> nour.mohammad@gmail.com>
> > a
> > > > écrit :
> > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 1:05 AM, David Blevins <
> > > david.blevins@gmail.com
> > > > > >wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Was just in reference to which IRC channel to use, #tomee or
> > #openejb
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I know :), the question was more for building a case of a statement
> > :).
> > > > For
> > > > > me I am in favor of OpenEJB cause thats the origin and who knows
> > about
> > > > the
> > > > > future, more specifically with the cloud addition to JEE 7 we may
> > come
> > > up
> > > > > with another packaging and give it another name but still it will
> be
> > > > > OpenEJB.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Apr 17, 2012, at 3:51 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Are we talking about project names or users interests. Cause in
> > the
> > > > > first
> > > > > > > place they go to openejb.apache.org
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I believe OpenEJB should be the main name, TomEE is just a name
> > of
> > > > one
> > > > > > > OpenEJB packaging which implements the WebProfile, so it is
> still
> > > > > > OpenEJB.
> > > > > > > Thats my 2 cents.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 11:25 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau
> > > > > > > <rm...@gmail.com>wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >> Tomee and openejb redirecting to tomee-openejb?
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> I know eveybody likes tomee but openejb shouldnt be forgotten
> > IMO.
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >> - Romain
> > > > > > >> Le 17 avr. 2012 22:54, "Karan Malhi" <ka...@gmail.com>
> a
> > > > écrit
> > > > > :
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >>> Hi,
> > > > > > >>> Currently on irc if somebody wants to join #tomee, they get
> > > > > redirected
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > >>> #openejb. Personally, I'd prefer the reverse i.e. #tomee
> being
> > > the
> > > > > > >> primary
> > > > > > >>> IRC channel. So if somebody joins #openejb they get
> redirected
> > to
> > > > > > #tomee.
> > > > > > >>> It also gives us the opportunity to have a nice welcome
> message
> > > for
> > > > > > folks
> > > > > > >>> like "Welcome to TomEE - A pure Tomcat based Java EE 6 web
> > > profile
> > > > > > >>> certified server". Just another little thing to help spread
> the
> > > > word.
> > > > > > >>> What does everybody else think?
> > > > > > >>> --
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>> Karan Singh Malhi
> > > > > > >>> twitter.com/KaranSinghMalhi
> > > > > > >>>
> > > > > > >>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > - Mohammad Nour
> > > > > > > ----
> > > > > > > "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must
> > keep
> > > > > > moving"
> > > > > > > - Albert Einstein
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > > - Mohammad Nour
> > > > > ----
> > > > > "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep
> > > > moving"
> > > > > - Albert Einstein
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Thanks
> - Mohammad Nour
> ----
> "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving"
> - Albert Einstein
>

Re: irc tomee or openejb

Posted by Mohammad Nour El-Din <no...@gmail.com>.
On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 10:43 AM, Jean-Louis MONTEIRO <je...@gmail.com>wrote:

> I guess in a ideal world, that'd be better to have Apache TomEE has a Top
> Project in Apache.
> But it also has side effects and negative points (dependencies when
> releasing ...).
>

Is there a lot of differences between OpenEJB (Embdeded/Standalone) and
TomEE ?


>
> JLouis
>
> Le 18 avril 2012 10:14, Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com> a
> écrit :
>
> > same idea: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENEJB why is tomee
> > everywhere (name of the page, title...)?
> >
> > - Romain
> >
> >
> > 2012/4/18 Jean-Louis MONTEIRO <je...@gmail.com>
> >
> > > +1 with Mohammad and Romain.
> > >
> > > JLouis
> > >
> > > Le 18 avril 2012 01:25, Mohammad Nour El-Din <no...@gmail.com>
> a
> > > écrit :
> > >
> > > > On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 1:05 AM, David Blevins <
> > david.blevins@gmail.com
> > > > >wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Was just in reference to which IRC channel to use, #tomee or
> #openejb
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > I know :), the question was more for building a case of a statement
> :).
> > > For
> > > > me I am in favor of OpenEJB cause thats the origin and who knows
> about
> > > the
> > > > future, more specifically with the cloud addition to JEE 7 we may
> come
> > up
> > > > with another packaging and give it another name but still it will be
> > > > OpenEJB.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Apr 17, 2012, at 3:51 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Are we talking about project names or users interests. Cause in
> the
> > > > first
> > > > > > place they go to openejb.apache.org
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I believe OpenEJB should be the main name, TomEE is just a name
> of
> > > one
> > > > > > OpenEJB packaging which implements the WebProfile, so it is still
> > > > > OpenEJB.
> > > > > > Thats my 2 cents.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 11:25 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau
> > > > > > <rm...@gmail.com>wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >> Tomee and openejb redirecting to tomee-openejb?
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> I know eveybody likes tomee but openejb shouldnt be forgotten
> IMO.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> - Romain
> > > > > >> Le 17 avr. 2012 22:54, "Karan Malhi" <ka...@gmail.com> a
> > > écrit
> > > > :
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>> Hi,
> > > > > >>> Currently on irc if somebody wants to join #tomee, they get
> > > > redirected
> > > > > to
> > > > > >>> #openejb. Personally, I'd prefer the reverse i.e. #tomee being
> > the
> > > > > >> primary
> > > > > >>> IRC channel. So if somebody joins #openejb they get redirected
> to
> > > > > #tomee.
> > > > > >>> It also gives us the opportunity to have a nice welcome message
> > for
> > > > > folks
> > > > > >>> like "Welcome to TomEE - A pure Tomcat based Java EE 6 web
> > profile
> > > > > >>> certified server". Just another little thing to help spread the
> > > word.
> > > > > >>> What does everybody else think?
> > > > > >>> --
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>> Karan Singh Malhi
> > > > > >>> twitter.com/KaranSinghMalhi
> > > > > >>>
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > - Mohammad Nour
> > > > > > ----
> > > > > > "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must
> keep
> > > > > moving"
> > > > > > - Albert Einstein
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Thanks
> > > > - Mohammad Nour
> > > > ----
> > > > "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep
> > > moving"
> > > > - Albert Einstein
> > > >
> > >
> >
>



-- 
Thanks
- Mohammad Nour
----
"Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving"
- Albert Einstein

Re: irc tomee or openejb

Posted by Jean-Louis MONTEIRO <je...@gmail.com>.
I guess in a ideal world, that'd be better to have Apache TomEE has a Top
Project in Apache.
But it also has side effects and negative points (dependencies when
releasing ...).

JLouis

Le 18 avril 2012 10:14, Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com> a écrit :

> same idea: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENEJB why is tomee
> everywhere (name of the page, title...)?
>
> - Romain
>
>
> 2012/4/18 Jean-Louis MONTEIRO <je...@gmail.com>
>
> > +1 with Mohammad and Romain.
> >
> > JLouis
> >
> > Le 18 avril 2012 01:25, Mohammad Nour El-Din <no...@gmail.com> a
> > écrit :
> >
> > > On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 1:05 AM, David Blevins <
> david.blevins@gmail.com
> > > >wrote:
> > >
> > > > Was just in reference to which IRC channel to use, #tomee or #openejb
> > > >
> > >
> > > I know :), the question was more for building a case of a statement :).
> > For
> > > me I am in favor of OpenEJB cause thats the origin and who knows about
> > the
> > > future, more specifically with the cloud addition to JEE 7 we may come
> up
> > > with another packaging and give it another name but still it will be
> > > OpenEJB.
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Apr 17, 2012, at 3:51 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Are we talking about project names or users interests. Cause in the
> > > first
> > > > > place they go to openejb.apache.org
> > > > >
> > > > > I believe OpenEJB should be the main name, TomEE is just a name of
> > one
> > > > > OpenEJB packaging which implements the WebProfile, so it is still
> > > > OpenEJB.
> > > > > Thats my 2 cents.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 11:25 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau
> > > > > <rm...@gmail.com>wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> Tomee and openejb redirecting to tomee-openejb?
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I know eveybody likes tomee but openejb shouldnt be forgotten IMO.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> - Romain
> > > > >> Le 17 avr. 2012 22:54, "Karan Malhi" <ka...@gmail.com> a
> > écrit
> > > :
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> Hi,
> > > > >>> Currently on irc if somebody wants to join #tomee, they get
> > > redirected
> > > > to
> > > > >>> #openejb. Personally, I'd prefer the reverse i.e. #tomee being
> the
> > > > >> primary
> > > > >>> IRC channel. So if somebody joins #openejb they get redirected to
> > > > #tomee.
> > > > >>> It also gives us the opportunity to have a nice welcome message
> for
> > > > folks
> > > > >>> like "Welcome to TomEE - A pure Tomcat based Java EE 6 web
> profile
> > > > >>> certified server". Just another little thing to help spread the
> > word.
> > > > >>> What does everybody else think?
> > > > >>> --
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Karan Singh Malhi
> > > > >>> twitter.com/KaranSinghMalhi
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > > - Mohammad Nour
> > > > > ----
> > > > > "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep
> > > > moving"
> > > > > - Albert Einstein
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Thanks
> > > - Mohammad Nour
> > > ----
> > > "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep
> > moving"
> > > - Albert Einstein
> > >
> >
>

Re: irc tomee or openejb

Posted by Mohammad Nour El-Din <no...@gmail.com>.
Well, in that context I only look at TomEE more like a product name coming
from the same project/community, sure you can not take that out of the
context of how INFRA manages JIRA projects according to the number of
people available to help

Which in such case TomEE can be defined as a major component under OPENEJB
JIRA project

But I will give another example, for Amazon Web Service (AWS), although
they have lots and lots of services and products, they only have one IRC
channel #aws AFAIR, cause actually people always talk about AWS as the
major point and then relate the product/service name to it, like AWS/S3 AWS
Dynamo, ect...

which may encourage me to suggest, feel free to kick me back :D, to rename
TomEE the same way, or any other main project of OpenEJB to use the same
convention, like OpenEJB TomEE so people always stick their minds to OpenEJB

thats my 2 cents

On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 10:14 AM, Romain Manni-Bucau
<rm...@gmail.com>wrote:

> same idea: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENEJB why is tomee
> everywhere (name of the page, title...)?
>
> - Romain
>
>
> 2012/4/18 Jean-Louis MONTEIRO <je...@gmail.com>
>
> > +1 with Mohammad and Romain.
> >
> > JLouis
> >
> > Le 18 avril 2012 01:25, Mohammad Nour El-Din <no...@gmail.com> a
> > écrit :
> >
> > > On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 1:05 AM, David Blevins <
> david.blevins@gmail.com
> > > >wrote:
> > >
> > > > Was just in reference to which IRC channel to use, #tomee or #openejb
> > > >
> > >
> > > I know :), the question was more for building a case of a statement :).
> > For
> > > me I am in favor of OpenEJB cause thats the origin and who knows about
> > the
> > > future, more specifically with the cloud addition to JEE 7 we may come
> up
> > > with another packaging and give it another name but still it will be
> > > OpenEJB.
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Apr 17, 2012, at 3:51 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Are we talking about project names or users interests. Cause in the
> > > first
> > > > > place they go to openejb.apache.org
> > > > >
> > > > > I believe OpenEJB should be the main name, TomEE is just a name of
> > one
> > > > > OpenEJB packaging which implements the WebProfile, so it is still
> > > > OpenEJB.
> > > > > Thats my 2 cents.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 11:25 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau
> > > > > <rm...@gmail.com>wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> Tomee and openejb redirecting to tomee-openejb?
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I know eveybody likes tomee but openejb shouldnt be forgotten IMO.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> - Romain
> > > > >> Le 17 avr. 2012 22:54, "Karan Malhi" <ka...@gmail.com> a
> > écrit
> > > :
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> Hi,
> > > > >>> Currently on irc if somebody wants to join #tomee, they get
> > > redirected
> > > > to
> > > > >>> #openejb. Personally, I'd prefer the reverse i.e. #tomee being
> the
> > > > >> primary
> > > > >>> IRC channel. So if somebody joins #openejb they get redirected to
> > > > #tomee.
> > > > >>> It also gives us the opportunity to have a nice welcome message
> for
> > > > folks
> > > > >>> like "Welcome to TomEE - A pure Tomcat based Java EE 6 web
> profile
> > > > >>> certified server". Just another little thing to help spread the
> > word.
> > > > >>> What does everybody else think?
> > > > >>> --
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> Karan Singh Malhi
> > > > >>> twitter.com/KaranSinghMalhi
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > > - Mohammad Nour
> > > > > ----
> > > > > "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep
> > > > moving"
> > > > > - Albert Einstein
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Thanks
> > > - Mohammad Nour
> > > ----
> > > "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep
> > moving"
> > > - Albert Einstein
> > >
> >
>



-- 
Thanks
- Mohammad Nour
----
"Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving"
- Albert Einstein

Re: irc tomee or openejb

Posted by Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>.
same idea: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENEJB why is tomee
everywhere (name of the page, title...)?

- Romain


2012/4/18 Jean-Louis MONTEIRO <je...@gmail.com>

> +1 with Mohammad and Romain.
>
> JLouis
>
> Le 18 avril 2012 01:25, Mohammad Nour El-Din <no...@gmail.com> a
> écrit :
>
> > On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 1:05 AM, David Blevins <david.blevins@gmail.com
> > >wrote:
> >
> > > Was just in reference to which IRC channel to use, #tomee or #openejb
> > >
> >
> > I know :), the question was more for building a case of a statement :).
> For
> > me I am in favor of OpenEJB cause thats the origin and who knows about
> the
> > future, more specifically with the cloud addition to JEE 7 we may come up
> > with another packaging and give it another name but still it will be
> > OpenEJB.
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Apr 17, 2012, at 3:51 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din wrote:
> > >
> > > > Are we talking about project names or users interests. Cause in the
> > first
> > > > place they go to openejb.apache.org
> > > >
> > > > I believe OpenEJB should be the main name, TomEE is just a name of
> one
> > > > OpenEJB packaging which implements the WebProfile, so it is still
> > > OpenEJB.
> > > > Thats my 2 cents.
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 11:25 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau
> > > > <rm...@gmail.com>wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Tomee and openejb redirecting to tomee-openejb?
> > > >>
> > > >> I know eveybody likes tomee but openejb shouldnt be forgotten IMO.
> > > >>
> > > >> - Romain
> > > >> Le 17 avr. 2012 22:54, "Karan Malhi" <ka...@gmail.com> a
> écrit
> > :
> > > >>
> > > >>> Hi,
> > > >>> Currently on irc if somebody wants to join #tomee, they get
> > redirected
> > > to
> > > >>> #openejb. Personally, I'd prefer the reverse i.e. #tomee being the
> > > >> primary
> > > >>> IRC channel. So if somebody joins #openejb they get redirected to
> > > #tomee.
> > > >>> It also gives us the opportunity to have a nice welcome message for
> > > folks
> > > >>> like "Welcome to TomEE - A pure Tomcat based Java EE 6 web profile
> > > >>> certified server". Just another little thing to help spread the
> word.
> > > >>> What does everybody else think?
> > > >>> --
> > > >>>
> > > >>> Karan Singh Malhi
> > > >>> twitter.com/KaranSinghMalhi
> > > >>>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Thanks
> > > > - Mohammad Nour
> > > > ----
> > > > "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep
> > > moving"
> > > > - Albert Einstein
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Thanks
> > - Mohammad Nour
> > ----
> > "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep
> moving"
> > - Albert Einstein
> >
>

Re: irc tomee or openejb

Posted by Jean-Louis MONTEIRO <je...@gmail.com>.
+1 with Mohammad and Romain.

JLouis

Le 18 avril 2012 01:25, Mohammad Nour El-Din <no...@gmail.com> a
écrit :

> On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 1:05 AM, David Blevins <david.blevins@gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > Was just in reference to which IRC channel to use, #tomee or #openejb
> >
>
> I know :), the question was more for building a case of a statement :). For
> me I am in favor of OpenEJB cause thats the origin and who knows about the
> future, more specifically with the cloud addition to JEE 7 we may come up
> with another packaging and give it another name but still it will be
> OpenEJB.
>
>
> >
> >
> > On Apr 17, 2012, at 3:51 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din wrote:
> >
> > > Are we talking about project names or users interests. Cause in the
> first
> > > place they go to openejb.apache.org
> > >
> > > I believe OpenEJB should be the main name, TomEE is just a name of one
> > > OpenEJB packaging which implements the WebProfile, so it is still
> > OpenEJB.
> > > Thats my 2 cents.
> > >
> > > On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 11:25 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau
> > > <rm...@gmail.com>wrote:
> > >
> > >> Tomee and openejb redirecting to tomee-openejb?
> > >>
> > >> I know eveybody likes tomee but openejb shouldnt be forgotten IMO.
> > >>
> > >> - Romain
> > >> Le 17 avr. 2012 22:54, "Karan Malhi" <ka...@gmail.com> a écrit
> :
> > >>
> > >>> Hi,
> > >>> Currently on irc if somebody wants to join #tomee, they get
> redirected
> > to
> > >>> #openejb. Personally, I'd prefer the reverse i.e. #tomee being the
> > >> primary
> > >>> IRC channel. So if somebody joins #openejb they get redirected to
> > #tomee.
> > >>> It also gives us the opportunity to have a nice welcome message for
> > folks
> > >>> like "Welcome to TomEE - A pure Tomcat based Java EE 6 web profile
> > >>> certified server". Just another little thing to help spread the word.
> > >>> What does everybody else think?
> > >>> --
> > >>>
> > >>> Karan Singh Malhi
> > >>> twitter.com/KaranSinghMalhi
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Thanks
> > > - Mohammad Nour
> > > ----
> > > "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep
> > moving"
> > > - Albert Einstein
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Thanks
> - Mohammad Nour
> ----
> "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving"
> - Albert Einstein
>

Re: irc tomee or openejb

Posted by Mohammad Nour El-Din <no...@gmail.com>.
On Wed, Apr 18, 2012 at 1:05 AM, David Blevins <da...@gmail.com>wrote:

> Was just in reference to which IRC channel to use, #tomee or #openejb
>

I know :), the question was more for building a case of a statement :). For
me I am in favor of OpenEJB cause thats the origin and who knows about the
future, more specifically with the cloud addition to JEE 7 we may come up
with another packaging and give it another name but still it will be
OpenEJB.


>
>
> On Apr 17, 2012, at 3:51 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din wrote:
>
> > Are we talking about project names or users interests. Cause in the first
> > place they go to openejb.apache.org
> >
> > I believe OpenEJB should be the main name, TomEE is just a name of one
> > OpenEJB packaging which implements the WebProfile, so it is still
> OpenEJB.
> > Thats my 2 cents.
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 11:25 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau
> > <rm...@gmail.com>wrote:
> >
> >> Tomee and openejb redirecting to tomee-openejb?
> >>
> >> I know eveybody likes tomee but openejb shouldnt be forgotten IMO.
> >>
> >> - Romain
> >> Le 17 avr. 2012 22:54, "Karan Malhi" <ka...@gmail.com> a écrit :
> >>
> >>> Hi,
> >>> Currently on irc if somebody wants to join #tomee, they get redirected
> to
> >>> #openejb. Personally, I'd prefer the reverse i.e. #tomee being the
> >> primary
> >>> IRC channel. So if somebody joins #openejb they get redirected to
> #tomee.
> >>> It also gives us the opportunity to have a nice welcome message for
> folks
> >>> like "Welcome to TomEE - A pure Tomcat based Java EE 6 web profile
> >>> certified server". Just another little thing to help spread the word.
> >>> What does everybody else think?
> >>> --
> >>>
> >>> Karan Singh Malhi
> >>> twitter.com/KaranSinghMalhi
> >>>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Thanks
> > - Mohammad Nour
> > ----
> > "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep
> moving"
> > - Albert Einstein
>
>


-- 
Thanks
- Mohammad Nour
----
"Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving"
- Albert Einstein

Re: irc tomee or openejb

Posted by David Blevins <da...@gmail.com>.
Was just in reference to which IRC channel to use, #tomee or #openejb


On Apr 17, 2012, at 3:51 PM, Mohammad Nour El-Din wrote:

> Are we talking about project names or users interests. Cause in the first
> place they go to openejb.apache.org
> 
> I believe OpenEJB should be the main name, TomEE is just a name of one
> OpenEJB packaging which implements the WebProfile, so it is still OpenEJB.
> Thats my 2 cents.
> 
> On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 11:25 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau
> <rm...@gmail.com>wrote:
> 
>> Tomee and openejb redirecting to tomee-openejb?
>> 
>> I know eveybody likes tomee but openejb shouldnt be forgotten IMO.
>> 
>> - Romain
>> Le 17 avr. 2012 22:54, "Karan Malhi" <ka...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> Currently on irc if somebody wants to join #tomee, they get redirected to
>>> #openejb. Personally, I'd prefer the reverse i.e. #tomee being the
>> primary
>>> IRC channel. So if somebody joins #openejb they get redirected to #tomee.
>>> It also gives us the opportunity to have a nice welcome message for folks
>>> like "Welcome to TomEE - A pure Tomcat based Java EE 6 web profile
>>> certified server". Just another little thing to help spread the word.
>>> What does everybody else think?
>>> --
>>> 
>>> Karan Singh Malhi
>>> twitter.com/KaranSinghMalhi
>>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Thanks
> - Mohammad Nour
> ----
> "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving"
> - Albert Einstein

Re: irc tomee or openejb

Posted by Mohammad Nour El-Din <no...@gmail.com>.
Are we talking about project names or users interests. Cause in the first
place they go to openejb.apache.org

I believe OpenEJB should be the main name, TomEE is just a name of one
OpenEJB packaging which implements the WebProfile, so it is still OpenEJB.
Thats my 2 cents.

On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 11:25 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau
<rm...@gmail.com>wrote:

> Tomee and openejb redirecting to tomee-openejb?
>
> I know eveybody likes tomee but openejb shouldnt be forgotten IMO.
>
> - Romain
> Le 17 avr. 2012 22:54, "Karan Malhi" <ka...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>
> > Hi,
> > Currently on irc if somebody wants to join #tomee, they get redirected to
> > #openejb. Personally, I'd prefer the reverse i.e. #tomee being the
> primary
> > IRC channel. So if somebody joins #openejb they get redirected to #tomee.
> > It also gives us the opportunity to have a nice welcome message for folks
> > like "Welcome to TomEE - A pure Tomcat based Java EE 6 web profile
> > certified server". Just another little thing to help spread the word.
> > What does everybody else think?
> > --
> >
> > Karan Singh Malhi
> > twitter.com/KaranSinghMalhi
> >
>



-- 
Thanks
- Mohammad Nour
----
"Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving"
- Albert Einstein

Re: irc tomee or openejb

Posted by Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>.
Tomee and openejb redirecting to tomee-openejb?

I know eveybody likes tomee but openejb shouldnt be forgotten IMO.

- Romain
Le 17 avr. 2012 22:54, "Karan Malhi" <ka...@gmail.com> a écrit :

> Hi,
> Currently on irc if somebody wants to join #tomee, they get redirected to
> #openejb. Personally, I'd prefer the reverse i.e. #tomee being the primary
> IRC channel. So if somebody joins #openejb they get redirected to #tomee.
> It also gives us the opportunity to have a nice welcome message for folks
> like "Welcome to TomEE - A pure Tomcat based Java EE 6 web profile
> certified server". Just another little thing to help spread the word.
> What does everybody else think?
> --
>
> Karan Singh Malhi
> twitter.com/KaranSinghMalhi
>