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Posted to users@spamassassin.apache.org by Justin Mason <jm...@jmason.org> on 2005/08/18 22:29:46 UTC
Re: Too many recipients
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if you can release the message publically (possibly by obfuscating the
addresses and removing the message body), and it still demonstrates the
problem in that form, then I'd suggest uploading it to the SpamAssassin
bugzilla. we can then see if there's a bug there in SpamAssassin.
- --j.
Irina writes:
> Hello all,
>
> We experienced a big problem with messages not being processed and
> being queued on the mail server due to spamassassin being failed on a
> message which had many recipients.
>
> I found the message which caused the problem in the queue and saved
> it aside. When looked at it I saw 765 recipients. This is not the
> first time I noticed it. We had the same problem 2 days ago, I found
> the message (that caused the problem) also had many recipients in the
> list (428 in To: field). We had the same issue on August 11th, in
> that message we had 560 recipients in To: field.
>
> We do not allow more than 50 recipients on the server. But this
> message was to 1 recipient on our server. The problem was with too
> many email addresses in 'To:' field.
>
> I am not sure where to look.
>
> Thank you for your help in advance.
>
> Irina
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> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hello all,</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>We experienced a big problem with messages not
> being processed and being queued on the mail server due to
> spamassassin being failed on a message which had many recipients.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I found the message which caused the
> problem in the queue and saved it aside. When looked at it I saw
> 765 recipients. This is not the first time I noticed it. We had the
> same problem 2 days ago, I found the message (that caused the problem) also
> had many recipients in the list (428 in To: field). We had the same issue
> on August 11th, in that message we had 560 recipients in To: field.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>We do not allow more than 50 recipients on the
> server. But this message was to 1 recipient on our server. The
> problem was with too many email addresses in 'To:' field.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I am not sure where to look.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thank you for your help in advance.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Irina</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=Arial
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Re: Too many recipients
Posted by MC <li...@westiescum.com>.
Irina wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> Below is my old message I've posted. And a suggestion from Justin Mason.
> We have no solution yet. We had another glitch today.
>
>
> I passed a message to spamassassin with -t flag for debugging. It generated
> perl.core. I then shortened the message to only headers and tested again.
> It did the same thing - perl.core. I am attaching the output from
> spamassassin -t -D < 77501718short1.msg
> File spamoutfails.txt.
>
> I am also attaching the actual message which it fails on. File
> failingmessage.txt.
>
> I can NOT attach (if it is any help, I am not sure how to read core
> files) perl.core. It is kind of big 59 MB.
>
>
> Thank you for all your help in advance. Any suggestions would be very
> appreciated.
>
> Irina
> ==================
>
I can successfully run the test against the failingmessage.txt you supplied.
Are you sure it's something with spamassassin and not your perl
installation?
Re: Too many recipients
Posted by jdow <jd...@earthlink.net>.
From: "Fred" <sp...@freddyt.com>
>> I am also attaching the actual message which it fails on. File
>> failingmessage.txt.
>
> Does anyone else think it's kind of bad that Symantec is sending a
> newsletter with it's entire subscribed base in the CC field? I wonder if
> they have heard of BCC or mailing list software?
It's not the first time a company has tried to sell its solution for a
problem by exploiting the problems in other "competing" solutions.
{^_^}
Re: Too many recipients
Posted by MC <li...@westiescum.com>.
Irina wrote:
> Yes, my opinion they should use a maillist that does the job of sending
> messages with 20 recipients.
>
> "MC" asked if I am sure it is SA and not perl. It could be, especially
> since we get perl.core. But I am not sure what to check, don't really know
> how to debug core files :-(((. Our perl version is
> v5.8.7
>
> Thank you guys.
>
> Irina
> ===============
>
That's the hunch I was working off ;) My perl version is 5.8.0 with SA
3.0.4.
You could always try and strace on it and see if you get any more
information on where it's crashing exactly.
> Content analysis details: (4.7 points, 5.0 required)
>
> pts rule name description
> ---- ---------------------- --------------------------------------------------
> 0.0 MISSING_DATE Missing Date: header
> 0.5 BIZ_TLD URI: Contains an URL in the BIZ top-level domain
> 2.5 UNIQUE_WORDS BODY: Message body has many words used only once
> 1.6 MISSING_SUBJECT Missing Subject: header
RE: Too many recipients
Posted by Bret Miller <br...@wcg.org>.
Hmmm. I didn't catch the original message, but what version of SA are
you running? We run on Windows here and used to have SA crash 2 or 3
times per week on a message with too manu recipients. While I can't be
sure that we still get such messages, I haven't had a crash since we
upgraded to perl 5.8.7 and SA 3.1 (Note that SA 3.1 is rc2 status at the
moment, so not officially released. We've been running it for a few
months and haven't seen any issues, just better speed and stability.)
Bret
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Irina [mailto:irina@nas.net]
> Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 9:58 AM
> To: users@spamassassin.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Too many recipients
>
> Yes, my opinion they should use a maillist that does the job
> of sending
> messages with 20 recipients.
>
> "MC" asked if I am sure it is SA and not perl. It could be,
> especially
> since we get perl.core. But I am not sure what to check,
> don't really know
> how to debug core files :-(((. Our perl version is
> v5.8.7
>
> Thank you guys.
>
> Irina
> ===============
Re: Too many recipients
Posted by Irina <ir...@nas.net>.
Yes, my opinion they should use a maillist that does the job of sending
messages with 20 recipients.
"MC" asked if I am sure it is SA and not perl. It could be, especially
since we get perl.core. But I am not sure what to check, don't really know
how to debug core files :-(((. Our perl version is
v5.8.7
Thank you guys.
Irina
===============
----- Original Message -----
From: "Fred" <sp...@freddyt.com>
To: "Irina" <ir...@nas.net>; <us...@spamassassin.apache.org>
Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 12:28 PM
Subject: Re: Too many recipients
> > I am also attaching the actual message which it fails on. File
> > failingmessage.txt.
>
> Does anyone else think it's kind of bad that Symantec is sending a
> newsletter with it's entire subscribed base in the CC field? I wonder if
> they have heard of BCC or mailing list software?
>
>
>
Re: Too many recipients
Posted by Fred <sp...@freddyt.com>.
> I am also attaching the actual message which it fails on. File
> failingmessage.txt.
Does anyone else think it's kind of bad that Symantec is sending a
newsletter with it's entire subscribed base in the CC field? I wonder if
they have heard of BCC or mailing list software?
Re: Too many recipients
Posted by Irina <ir...@nas.net>.
Hello All,
Below is my old message I've posted. And a suggestion from Justin Mason.
We have no solution yet. We had another glitch today.
I passed a message to spamassassin with -t flag for debugging. It generated
perl.core. I then shortened the message to only headers and tested again.
It did the same thing - perl.core. I am attaching the output from
spamassassin -t -D < 77501718short1.msg
File spamoutfails.txt.
I am also attaching the actual message which it fails on. File
failingmessage.txt.
I can NOT attach (if it is any help, I am not sure how to read core
files) perl.core. It is kind of big 59 MB.
Thank you for all your help in advance. Any suggestions would be very
appreciated.
Irina
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From: "Justin Mason" <jm...@jmason.org>
To: "Irina" <ir...@nas.net>
Cc: <us...@spamassassin.apache.org>
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2005 4:29 PM
Subject: Re: Too many recipients
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>
> if you can release the message publically (possibly by obfuscating the
> addresses and removing the message body), and it still demonstrates the
> problem in that form, then I'd suggest uploading it to the SpamAssassin
> bugzilla. we can then see if there's a bug there in SpamAssassin.
>
> - --j.
>
> Irina writes:
> > Hello all,
> >
> > We experienced a big problem with messages not being processed and
> > being queued on the mail server due to spamassassin being failed on a
> > message which had many recipients.
> >
> > I found the message which caused the problem in the queue and saved
> > it aside. When looked at it I saw 765 recipients. This is not the
> > first time I noticed it. We had the same problem 2 days ago, I found
> > the message (that caused the problem) also had many recipients in the
> > list (428 in To: field). We had the same issue on August 11th, in
> > that message we had 560 recipients in To: field.
> >
> > We do not allow more than 50 recipients on the server. But this
> > message was to 1 recipient on our server. The problem was with too
> > many email addresses in 'To:' field.
> >
> > I am not sure where to look.
> >
> > Thank you for your help in advance.
> >
> > Irina
> > ===================------=_NextPart_000_0660_01C5A410.29096240
> > Content-Type: text/html;
> > charset="iso-8859-1"
> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> >
> > <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN">
> > <HTML><HEAD>
> > <META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1">
> > <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=GENERATOR>
> > <STYLE></STYLE>
> > </HEAD>
> > <BODY bgColor=#ffffff>
> > <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hello all,</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>We experienced a big problem with messages
not
> > being processed and being queued on the mail server due to
> > spamassassin being failed on a message which had many
recipients.</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
> > <DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I found the message which caused the
> > problem in the queue and saved it aside. When looked at
it I saw
> > 765 recipients. This is not the first time I noticed it. We
had the
> > same problem 2 days ago, I found the message (that caused the
problem) also
> > had many recipients in the list (428 in To: field). We had the
same issue
> > on August 11th, in that message we had 560 recipients in To:
field.</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>We do not allow more than 50 recipients on
the
> > server. But this message was to 1 recipient on our server.
The
> > problem was with too many email addresses in 'To:' field.</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I am not sure where to look.</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thank you for your help in
advance.</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Irina</FONT></DIV>
> > <DIV><FONT face=Arial
> > size=2>====================</FONT></DIV></DIV></BODY></HTML>
> >
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